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AyumiAi 20th January 2011 07:56 PM

^ agreed unless she does some major promotion with her face plastered all over the place
and every song having a super strong tie in (which is all very unlikely)
then yes it probably is but oh well ;p good job ayu! :D

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th January 2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2615472)
so maybe 260-280k total? I'm very happy! I didn't think it'd pass 250k originally. this is probably her last album that ever will so enjoy it guys~

well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

brener 20th January 2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2615531)
well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

i think that 260k at least is possible... but not 280k...

and well, she won't promote more this album cuz avex and ayu are ok with the sales.. if they weren't, of course they would promote it more

love in music 20th January 2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2615531)
well hello pessimism.

I don't think that at all.

not really, just being realistic. you can go on expecting her to outsell this album with her next or having a less than 50k drop, but you'll just end up disappointed because there is a very slim chance of that happening.

lividlillies 21st January 2011 03:36 AM

Ayu's been having a lot of publicity at the beginning of this year, what with her engagement and marriage, and I think it's helped put her back in the mainstream public eye. Rather than a huge drop, I think her next album will have similar sales.

freedreamer 21st January 2011 04:35 AM

I bet Love songs gained more exposure overseas esp with her marriage news all over. Seems like being in the news really changes a lot of factors. And Love songs is an album that grows on the listener so that might help for the longevity too

brener 21st January 2011 04:39 AM

now what i rly want is a long and steady chart life...

AyumiAi 21st January 2011 05:28 AM

Hmmm who knows hopefully you guys are rig but time after time we think well maybe this time sales will be higher or not so much lower because of ____ and it always seem to drop or Wtv hopefully though love songs has a long chart life :)

brener 21st January 2011 05:36 AM

we could also hope for the other artists to sell less than ayu this year hehe just kidding

Polyrhythm 21st January 2011 07:25 AM

Not happening. AKB48 is releasing an album. Namie is releasing an album. Kumi is releasing an album.

brener 21st January 2011 07:48 AM

kumi has a lot of chances to sell less than ayu.. i mean, her last album+best album sold only a few thousands more than RNRC and it was a studio album + a best album, of course fans expected more and RNRC was only a studio album... if UNIVERSE wasnt released with the BEST it would surely sold less copies...

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 08:03 AM

By a few you mean over 50 thousands right?

brener 21st January 2011 08:10 AM

^

do u RLY think that 50k when talking about an album is a big number?

and there's the fact that ayu released A STUDIO ALBUM and koda A STUDIO + BEST ALBUM together... koda should has sold like 500k copies at least, her album + best album sold like a normal studio album....

Polyrhythm 21st January 2011 08:30 AM

Um what year do you think we're in? 2008?

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 08:36 AM

Umm BEST ALBUM isn't really a big seller as it used to be lol unless you're really popular or you're the current 'it'.

and yes 50k is a huge number if it isn't then, it wouldn't be a problem for Ayu to sell additional 50k right?

brener 21st January 2011 08:40 AM

well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new album, but not something like +100k copies...

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 2615895)
well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new albuml, but not something like +100k copies...

Agreed. If Dejavu sells more than Love songs it's not gonna be by far. 20-30k tops.

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Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2615891)
and yes 50k is a huge number if it isn't then, it wouldn't be a problem for Ayu to sell additional 50k right?

How does that even make sense?

Cherry Dynamite 21st January 2011 09:03 AM

The logic is pretty simple if 50k isn't a bit deal then shouldn't it be easy to sell additional 50k? I'm not insulting anyone but saying 50k isn't huge in today's sales is pretty flawed.

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Originally Posted by brener (Post 2615895)
well, let's see then, i doubt she will sell loads like u're meaning ^^ she can sell more than ayu with this new album, but not something like +100k copies...

I didn't say that it'll sell tons nor did I say it'll outsell Love songs, all I said was 50k is a lot.

brener 21st January 2011 09:07 AM

i don't think that if an album outsold other by 50k even nowadays (in japan) we can tell that it outsold the other by a huge number of copies... 50k matters, of course, but isn't THAT HUGE.

njanjayrp 21st January 2011 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry Dynamite (Post 2615901)
The logic is pretty simple if 50k isn't a bit deal then shouldn't it be easy to sell additional 50k? I'm not insulting anyone but saying 50k isn't huge in today's sales is pretty flawed.

You're not insulting anyone, but I think you are wrong. You can only say it shouldn't be hard for someone to sell 50k, not additional 50k as that way it simply doesn't make that much sense, as you can't keep selling additional 50k all the time (depending on how long has the album been on the charts). You could as well say that 1000 copies is a big deal when an album is in it's 15th week and barely selling 50 copies a day. 50k isn't that big deal for the majority of popular artists, for people who barely sell it is. For Ayu who's singles sell around 50k in 2-3 days tops, it still isn't.


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