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chu-lips 26th June 2011 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2706517)
I find that really sad. Especially considering a lot of Korean groups are complete carbon copies of each other :(

Quote of the day..
:)

brener 26th June 2011 10:53 AM

ive never thought about the fact that Love songs didnt had a promo tour, considering that the current tour isnt promoting the album... So we guys must celebrate cuz without much promotion (only mags and some a few tv perf.) the album sold almost 300k!!

sanzo2011 26th June 2011 12:57 PM

Actually, i think tour doesn't have any strong effect on album sales! TV promotions and magazine covers( maybe)'re things that really affect!

ayumisrael 26th June 2011 02:54 PM

Yep, Rock'n'Roll Circus album stopped charting just before its tour started and the album never came back to chart.

brener 27th June 2011 05:38 AM

Update;

Now its official, Kana's new album debut week sales will outsell Love songs' (or will not, cuz Love songs estimated debut week sales were 167,387 and debut week total sales were 180,048, maybe Thank you, Love wont get that...)

Thank you, Love x Love songs

1st Day
Position: #1
Sales: 49,607 x 70,609

2nd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 39,415 x 36,911

3rd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 20,661 x 21,854

4th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 19,032 x 14,303

5th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 21,627 x 12,729
Estimated sales: 150,342 x 156,406

Nackar_91 27th June 2011 10:56 AM

It's interesting to see how little touring does for Japanese album sales... in the West even one performance is often enough to bring an album back to the top 100, or even top 30 if it's a big show. Such a shame.

Anyway, I agree that this K-Pop domination is starting to be a bit "eh", but I don't agree with the sentiment that "look at what music has become". If you listen to these statements, you'd think music can ONLY move in a downwards spiral, since fans of the 50s hate everything afterwards, but also fans of the 70s, yet there's STILL good music around. Try and look past the Idol domination and you'll find plenty of great music ; )

njanjayrp 27th June 2011 03:31 PM

^ I agree. There is still good music to be found, but the current situation we have now isn't called "idol domination" without a reason :) And there is a lot of truth to what some people have said about the music those idol bands sell.

Nackar_91 27th June 2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2708408)
^ I agree. There is still good music to be found, but the current situation we have now isn't called "idol domination" without a reason :) And there is a lot of truth to what some people have said about the music those idol bands sell.

Oh definitely, I thoroughly agree, and it can annoy me to no end sometimes! Still, I try and ignore it and look past it, since it'll most likely just be another phase in music that passes, like all others.

brener 28th June 2011 08:41 AM

Thank you, Love x Love songs

1st Day
Position: #1
Sales: 49,607 x 70,609

2nd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 39,415 x 36,911

3rd Day
Position: #1
Sales: 20,661 x 21,854

4th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 19,032 x 14,303

5th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 21,627 x 12,729

6th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 19,992 x 10,981
Total: 170,334 x 167,387

1st Week
Position: #1
Estimated Total Sales: 170,334 x 167,387
Official Total Sales: TBA x 180,048


in a few hours we'll know if kana's new album hit Love songs' first week sales (=

njanjayrp 28th June 2011 10:33 AM

^ it has already been announced last night -> Kana finished her first week at #1 with 178k :)

@Nackar - I think so too, even though the idol groups, especially the male ones have always been trendy, the girl groups which seem to be all the rage atm have all had generally shorter life spans.

chu-lips 28th June 2011 11:47 AM

ayu still doin good
try to remember she's been in music industry for more than 13 years n 15 years in total..
N shes still able to compete with off spring artists..
:)

brener 28th June 2011 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2708772)
^ it has already been announced last night -> Kana finished her first week at #1 with 178k :)

@Nackar - I think so too, even though the idol groups, especially the male ones have always been trendy, the girl groups which seem to be all the rage atm have all had generally shorter life spans.

so that means kana didnt hit ayu by 2k!! amazing haha

Yumsushi 29th June 2011 02:11 AM

That is amazing! Especially since that means Kana's physical sales peak has already passed and her career span is only like half of Ayu's. But Im sure she's selling extremely well digitally so we'll take what we can get~

brener 29th June 2011 05:36 AM

^yep.

but i think her album will sell more than love songs till the end of this year.. looks like her sales will stand steadier

sanzo2011 29th June 2011 06:13 AM

Of course! Kana 'll sell more than Ayu!I even never have a doubt on that!

Bigtop 29th June 2011 06:15 AM

Yeah, she's 22...I think she has the potential to do well - one of the "modern girls" today.

njanjayrp 29th June 2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2709218)
Yeah, she's 22...I think she has the potential to do well - one of the "modern girls" today.

That's what I thought too. And Sankyu, Love will surely outsell Love songs in the long run. Still considering that Kana's prime didn't even last more than 2 years, I wouldn't expect her to reach Kumi's level of fame, let alone Ayu's.

Nackar_91 29th June 2011 10:28 AM

Haha, no offense, but it seems people already know for sure her career will keep on dropping. Everyone has a completely different career path, of course. Ayu debuted big and kept going up, then slowly and surely going downward, although always selling good. Namie debuted HUGELY, slowly went down, and came back hard. Koda was a nobody the first few years, became ENORMOUS, then also slowly started going down.

We can't tell what Kana's career will look like. She might only go down from now on and become a no one, she might come back hard with her next album and break an album. Only in about 5 years can we give some sort of indication on whether or not she'll be this era's "Ayu" or "Amuro" or "Kuu".

njanjayrp 29th June 2011 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2709273)
Haha, no offense, but it seems people already know for sure her career will keep on dropping. Everyone has a completely different career path, of course. Ayu debuted big and kept going up, then slowly and surely going downward, although always selling good. Namie debuted HUGELY, slowly went down, and came back hard. Koda was a nobody the first few years, became ENORMOUS, then also slowly started going down.

We can't tell what Kana's career will look like. She might only go down from now on and become a no one, she might come back hard with her next album and break an album. Only in about 5 years can we give some sort of indication on whether or not she'll be this era's "Ayu" or "Amuro" or "Kuu".

If it were any other music market in question I would agree, but knowing that you are into Oricon Charts even more than I am, I'm sure that you know that the sales rarely pick up again once they start going down :( Namie Amuro is actually the only one I can think of who had the luck to have two peaks. Sure there is still hope for Kana as after all her album still has consistency on charts, but considering that even her digital sales went down compared to her toLove singles I say that might be a good indicator of her peak being near it's end.

roanmy 29th June 2011 01:01 PM

Thank you, Love sold 178006 copies in its first week.


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