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happiholic★ 5th May 2009 11:33 PM

I love both artists! They are both different, not only from each other, but from other singers in their music industries. But, I like Ayu better because Gaga's personality kinda rubs me the wrong way.

amorphose 6th May 2009 12:05 AM

Definitely Ayu.

I pretty much detest Lady GaGa. I think her voice is average at her looks aren't even though. Plus, all her songs are awfully repetitive and she uses the "sex sells" tactic 10x more than Koda Kumi. XD

chestergringo 6th May 2009 12:18 AM

Of Course that Ayumi

Lady_Eowyn 6th May 2009 12:22 AM

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I don't get what the big deal with Lady GaGa
It's all been done before, even her whole 'weird' image that she likes

I mean, just look at Björk for crying out loud
Lady GaGa is not unique, or original, or special.... and after watching her interview on Jonathan Ross..... well she came across as a right arrogant cow to be honest. One of the shortest interviews I've ever seen.
AMEN :yes


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No, they can't. There's a LOT more to composing then thinking of a tune. You have to have a really good understanding of music to be able to successfully compose. What you consider "good tunes" is not a measure of talent. It's a personal opinion. If she wasn't talented, then NO ONE would like her and she wouldn't have put out an album
Wel... honestly, in one point i agree with u. Talent is based on her lyrics, and music compositions... And i don't know if she is a talented person. But from what i have heard about her, i state she is not good at what she does. Her music wasn't composed to be something harmonious, or beautiful... it was made to appeal to the masses or, in other words, to do something easy listening so it can make it to the charts. The pop music structures are really simple and don't search to do something with quality, i mean, this adjective it's not the main target or point in pop music these days. There is nothing unique or special about Gaga's music, but this very conceited girl wants us to believe the opposite. That, to my eyes, makes her a bad musician. This, is an opinion only, of course.

BUt about the other thing... that's relative because these days any fool can sing. I don't want to offend anyone, but look at Britney Spears... she is going on tour and she doesn't even sing in her concerts ¿how can she be considered a singer if she doesn't sing live? :rolleyes So much people doesn't care about talent. Good looks appeal more, apparently. And about Gaga, you can't deny she loves to get attention (actually a lot of people call her attention *****) with the subjects in her lyrics and her outrageous clothes. so honestly, with those points, i think it's hard to take her seriously as a musician... May be if she changes her image and the way she creates music, i'll change my mind about her :yes

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I don't see how people could possibly say Ayumi is more talented... her voice is nothing compared to Lady Gaga's, and Gaga also writes much better music, and is kewter, and her clothes are better

:roflmao...

You wish

Keiichi_JPU 6th May 2009 12:32 AM

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I don't see how people could possibly say Ayumi is more talented... her voice is nothing compared to Lady Gaga's, and Gaga also writes much better music, and is kewter, and her clothes are better
Just Dance or Poker Face might be catchy for now, but a song like "M" is just a true masterpiece in my opinion. it's timeless as well.

don't get me wrong though, I like Lady Gaga! I bought her album and I love it!
I just think Ayumi is a much better and more talented artist.
and about the clothes thing.. it might be your taste, but Ayumi looks way better to me.
Ayu has class, and to me, that's a very important quality for a female artist.
I'm not saying Lady gaga lacks class.. but I haven't seen a lot of it.

http://media.entertainment.sky.com/i...-Gaga-0808.jpg..http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/b/3/0/2/8d.jpg

Hachimitsu 6th May 2009 10:20 AM

You´re asking this question on an Ayu forum, remember? So ofcourse I'll choose Ayu. I don't even like Lady Gaga that much.

panda♥ 6th May 2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 1930161)
Just Dance or Poker Face might be catchy for now, but a song like "M" is just a true masterpiece in my opinion. it's timeless as well.

don't get me wrong though, I like Lady Gaga! I bought her album and I love it!
I just think Ayumi is a much better and more talented artist.
and about the clothes thing.. it might be your taste, but Ayumi looks way better to me.
Ayu has class, and to me, that's a very important quality for a female artist.
I'm not saying Lady gaga lacks class.. but I haven't seen a lot of it.

http://media.entertainment.sky.com/i...-Gaga-0808.jpg..http://cdn.picapp.com/ftp/Images/b/3/0/2/8d.jpg


I agree. I doubt any of Gaga's songs will be exciting for more than 2 years down the line. Ayu has ALOT of songs that are masterpieces and will be amazing and loved forever, I doubt that will ever happen with Gaga.

... and Gaga's panty hose in that picture make it look like she has bad cellulite. :tired

panda87 6th May 2009 05:44 PM

Ayu.

Lady GaGa's got catchy music, but that's it to her. nothing else appreciative. she doesn't have much to offer musically BUT that. she can't sing as well as Ayu either, and if you can't sing as well as Ayu, you can't sing at all b/c Ayu can't do much with her own voice either.

and i must mention... Lady GaGa is "hard to look at" in all aspects, in and out (and if you know Japanese, you'd know JUST what i mean). i also don't respect her overall like i respect Ayu.

v3lun420 6th May 2009 09:03 PM

Ugh... this is hard... I like them both. They are both talented, same class, different league. But i'll vote for AYu simply because she exists longer than GaGa (true? I dunno much about GaGa, so sorry if I am wrong). And I believe, a true artist isn't seasonal (like making 1 big hit whether it is a song, a single or an album and that's all coz the rest are all craps).

AyuRox 25th May 2009 04:19 AM

Ayu. Definitely. I like Just dance (sorta... De-Grees cover is way better than the original) and I'm indifferent to Poker Face. Seeing how I've never heard any of her other songs, I can't weigh in on them. The major turn off for me is that Just Dance and Pokerface are so rediculously slow!

Don't get me wrong, I love electronic, but Ayu is soo much better! Plus NEXT LEVEL is mostly electronic, so Ayu beats out Lady GaGa all the way.

bulmasman 25th May 2009 04:46 AM

Lady Gaga makes me wanna jab various sharp objects into my eye's and ears, so even ignoring how unbelievably awesome Ayumi is, it's always gonna be Ayu > a screaming cat > silence > nothingness > Gaga

Ayumi27 25th May 2009 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bulmasman (Post 1955447)
Lady Gaga makes me wanna jab various sharp objects into my eye's and ears, so even ignoring how unbelievably awesome Ayumi is, it's always gonna be Ayu > a screaming cat > silence > nothingness > Gaga

This
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I don't get what the big deal with Lady GaGa
It's all been done before, even her whole 'weird' image that she likes

I mean, just look at Björk for crying out loud
Lady GaGa is not unique, or original, or special.... and after watching her interview on Jonathan Ross..... well she came across as a right arrogant cow to be honest. One of the shortest interviews I've ever seen.
and that
:yes

rookies 25th May 2009 03:20 PM

I prefer Ayumi. :)

njanjayrp 25th May 2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 1930161)
Just Dance or Poker Face might be catchy for now, but a song like "M" is just a true masterpiece in my opinion. it's timeless as well.

don't get me wrong though, I like Lady Gaga! I bought her album and I love it!
I just think Ayumi is a much better and more talented artist.
and about the clothes thing.. it might be your taste, but Ayumi looks way better to me.
Ayu has class, and to me, that's a very important quality for a female artist.
I'm not saying Lady gaga lacks class.. but I haven't seen a lot of it.

http://media.entertainment.sky.com/i...-Gaga-0808.jpg

She looks like a female ver. of Hard Gay just even more tasteless xD

rookies 25th May 2009 04:52 PM

^ Lol. She kinda scares me. o_O

What is she wearing, and I dunno about her make-up and stuff, it still is scary to me. -__-

ayumixfan 26th May 2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady_Eowyn (Post 1930152)
AMEN :yes




Wel... honestly, in one point i agree with u. Talent is based on her lyrics, and music compositions... And i don't know if she is a talented person. But from what i have heard about her, i state she is not good at what she does. Her music wasn't composed to be something harmonious, or beautiful... it was made to appeal to the masses or, in other words, to do something easy listening so it can make it to the charts. The pop music structures are really simple and don't search to do something with quality, i mean, this adjective it's not the main target or point in pop music these days. There is nothing unique or special about Gaga's music, but this very conceited girl wants us to believe the opposite. That, to my eyes, makes her a bad musician. This, is an opinion only, of course.

BUt about the other thing... that's relative because these days any fool can sing. I don't want to offend anyone, but look at Britney Spears... she is going on tour and she doesn't even sing in her concerts ¿how can she be considered a singer if she doesn't sing live? :rolleyes So much people doesn't care about talent. Good looks appeal more, apparently. And about Gaga, you can't deny she loves to get attention (actually a lot of people call her attention *****) with the subjects in her lyrics and her outrageous clothes. so honestly, with those points, i think it's hard to take her seriously as a musician... May be if she changes her image and the way she creates music, i'll change my mind about her :yes




:roflmao...

You wish

At some points I agree, but other times I think quite differently. Sure lady gaga's two main hits Pokerface and JustDance were made to appeal to masses, but other songs on her album are really nice. Brown Eyes is an example. I think its a really emotional piece. I also think paparazzi is very beautiful and harmonious and I really like the lyrics to it. I think lady gaga's music isn't generic. Not like the way you guys make it out to seem anyways. Sure there's a lot of dance/electropop music in the US, but she really stands out to me compared to other singers. But how we take in her music is just an opinion.

I think to judge someone as a musician because of the way they act is silly personally. I feel people need to stop judging people's talents because of the image they have. Although a lot of signers use the sex appeal to sell, it doesn't mean that their music should now be labelled as trashy and worthless.

And I don't blame her for being an attention *****. Honestly I think she's really smart for doing this, because if you don't focus on making yourself known, no1 will know you. Sure there are other ways to do it, but you got to use what you got to use right? I mean it goes for kuu too. If kuu didn't use ero-kakkoi or w.e. its called, she would've been a dead artist and no1 would pay attention to her. Now that she was able to catch people's attention, they can finally give her music a try and find out hey, she is a good artist. It's just lady gaga takes her sex appeal VERY far, but in the US industry, I feel its needed because a lot of singers are using the sex appeal, but as you can see, by going so far she's getting really famous. So its working. As most people said here, they think she's not very pretty, so if she was to go around and act like a diva no1 will care about her. Altho I think she knows she has the sex appeal, because if I'm not mistakened she worked for playboy before so she has to use what she can to grab attention. Even ayu attention *****d herself to get famous. Everyone is an attention ***** if they want to get famous.

Polyrhythm 26th May 2009 08:44 AM

This thread is so unfair and basically a deathtrap for lady gaga. Personally, I prefer Ayumi just because her music is more appealing to me, but Lady Gaga is a damn hard worker too so i dont understand how people can say she's untalented.

mcluva420 26th May 2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumixfan (Post 1956877)
Even ayu attention *****d herself to get famous. Everyone is an attention ***** if they want to get famous.

right on!~ :yes

ayumixfan 26th May 2009 09:20 AM

^ lol Its just the truth though haha. I mean EVERYONE is a attention ***** if they're famous or else they'll die out. No1s going to look for u, you have to make urself noticable or get to them :P

Haha I agree xHeartStation, I believe i made this thread, but i didn't expect such dislike for lady gaga. She is a really hard worker and people do put her down too much. I mean a lot of people here like alan and respect her and look so highly upon her, and yet all she does is sing. While lady gaga who writes her music, lyrics, makes her own outfits, performs in clubs and the underground, and does A TONNE for her career is looked down upon like this. I mean at least give her some respect.

emi♡ 26th May 2009 10:41 AM

^really? you didn't expect the dislike?

even with all the kuu haters? lol

the forum hates on anyone that threatens ayu, or tries to rain on her parade of dominance of every aspect of the music industry lol


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