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COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ information thread [II]
So it's that time of year again! I'm keeping a look out for any new photos that fans have taken and will be looking for a setlist as well. I sort of expect people to tweet the setlist too especially since we have a few users attending the show today. If you have any news, reviews, or photos to add to this thread, please feel free to post them here and I will update the first post with the information!
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Notable links COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ information thread SunshineSlayer's review of 12/30 show Rody!'s thread about experience at 12/30 show MissElin_'s short review of 12/31 show + 2nd part COUNTDOWN LIVE 2010-2011 A ~do it again~ information thread [II] Sources: Ameblo, Twitpic, Photozou, Twitter, AHS, 2ch, Ayu's JBBS Livedoor Thread |
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bringing up the last discussed topic on previous thread...
about her vocal... yeah...it's true that her vocal is perfect when you watched it live... i attended her AT08, and it's perfect... |
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Can't believe a HQ rip hasn't surfaced yet.. this might be the longest we've had to wait for it!
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^ Yes, I agree with you. No offense to anyone, but I do think people who go to the concerts often tend to over estimate her vocals. The last several times I've seen her, I thought her vocals had improved over the past couple of years, but I never thought they were at an amazing level or anything.
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i heard ayu's vocals for CDL1011, i thought they were amazing except the first 3 songs.. :( other than that i hv nothing to complain about. :)
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When I attended the 7days special concert, 5 out of 7, I could see the same concert many times in less than 10 days.
Of course the first day, being my first Ayu concert, I wouldn't be able to give a good opinion. But the other 4 days I was able to pay more attention to her vocals and everything. I comented here back then how her vocals weren't as good on the last days (specialy the 9th Oct.). I mean, I could notice when she sang well or bad. But I agree, and I don't understand why, people who attend the concerts say vocals were great, and then in the recording it turns like they were bad... it's really strange... It was really strange for CDL 09-10! People who attended saying vocals were great and then with the rip everyone else thought different XD I wonder why it happens... For me, I can't wait to watch the RnRC DVD and compare, because what I remember is good vocals, not perfect but in some songs great! |
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Yeah, when I was watching this year's CDL, I noticed the balance seemed off in some of the songs - like, the music was overpowering her vocals at times; that happened, much worse, for "I am..." in the TV version last year too as I recall. It's interesting that there seems to be a difference between perceptions of her vocals live versus a recording of the same live; I wonder why that is, too... I still can't get over how much I loved this year's main setlist though! (still haven't watched the encore yet) |
I seem to be in the minority thinking her vocals have actually been quite good. You gotta consider which songs she has been singing, generally quite hard songs. Same goes for CDL0910, where she sang a handful very hard songs as well and considering that, IMO did a great job. I see a definite improvement ever since CDL0708, sure, this concert had off notes and stuff, every concert of her has, but this also had her belting the hell out of Duty, singing a beautiful Virgin Road, giving us a Free & Easy that might beat every performance except for ST02 of it vocally, a live Marionette, which I would have never expected to ever happen with that choreo and theatricals, finding the neccessary strenght for Bold & Delicious, which has been lacking in CDL0708, singing some of her highest and lowest songs, holding notes for a longer time than usual, running around basically all the time in the non-ballads...and it seems like there might have been no playback(unlike almost everything AT09 and before...)
I was more than satisfied with her vocals except for short parts of CAROLS and Last Angel, usually the parts where she went to high strong notes without a buildup, it's incredibly hard to hit stuff like that. Songs that begin with more or less high and strong notes = horror. |
i'm generally liking this CDL (the setlist,the stage,the clown) EXCEPT the wig!i can't really accept the wig.lol.it look like the hairstylist(or whoever in charge of the wig) is having a great rest during her/his work :irked.
the vocals,i still can accept this time. |
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Strange thing is, I was there personally for the concert, and she sounded not perfect, but great. So... |
^Agreed. I went to that concert too and thought she did well... O.o So I got really confuced cuz when I saw the TV-version I was like "man this sounds bad... now, why's that?"
And I have seen Ayu live 10 times now so it's not like I'm still in the first-time-I-see-her-live-exctatic-so-I-dun-really-care-to-remeber-how-her-voice-sounds-like-mood. It always sounds much worse in the tv-version then in live itself imo... |
I dont want to ruin myself dvd, so I just played Last angel for a few seconds and omg. I dont know whats worse, her wig or her singing. It sounded so bad, and I always try not to be negative. I didnt want to comment wig from pics thinking it might look better in the video, but no, it doesnt, it looks even worse. I dont know what to think about it >_<''
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The last few years, her vocals have always sounded bad on the live broadcast but fantastic on the DVD.
I don't know what to believe anymore! |
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I've only seen the YT posted performances so far and I honestly don't think I wanna see more. Seriously, her voice has been so good lately that's simply inexcusable how bad her vocals sounded on some of those songs. I didn't even recognize LA, Trauma and Audience when she started singing them, she was literally screaming. She did really good on the verses with Duty but was unnecessarily forcing out the chorus from her gut for some inane reason and it killed the flow. The ballad sections of her concerts tend to be the best though since she usually let's her dancers do all the movement and just concentrates on her vocals so I can't properly judge her overall vocal performance for this CDL until I see that but *sigh*... oh, and the hair and costumes are absolutely terrible tbbh. |
Well, I pretty much agree that her vocals aren't that good overall in this CDL, she's screaming much. But that's nothing new, especially with her hype concert songs (and she did have them all in this CDL, lol). The worst was flower garden for me from those, barely recognizable. Endless sorrow was the worst from the rest for me.
The hair is a mess as well But I did enjoy this CDL really much nevertheless! Love that stage and how they used it and all the lights! Besides they really put attention to the single performances, Ayu had some choreography as well in some songs and her power is great. And overall her vocals were better than in the last one, so I'm pleased. My favourite performances are Duty and Free & Easy. |
And there's HD version of CDL on Jpoppv.com. Unafortunely, I can't download it.
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i think i'm a member at there.let me go check.but,its sooo big!
argh.i don't have enough point to 'purchase' the link T_T |
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sorry to disappoint you guys.i don't have enough credit to purchase the link :(
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It seems to be on KMC too, but...
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^I don't even know if that's true because Misa-chan has mentioned before that she was at a CDL before and Ayu sounded really good but when she saw the T.V. version Ayu didn't sound that great.
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I need that .ts version in my life.. seriously!
I'm so tired of waiting. also I don't get how ayu can sound good in the actual concert and in the TV version of it she sounds bad. I can always hear how awful some artists sound in concert while I'm there, it's not like I can ignore it since it's so loud and I can hear them clearly. |
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Do people want to hear the flaws? I much prefer the DVD versions where the vocals sound excellent and the camera angles are much more flattering to the performances. After watching the TV version of CDL09-10 I wasn't even sure I wanted to purchase the DVD, but after my friend assured me it was worth it I bought it, and was very happy I did.
So I think I'll wait for the DVD release before I watch any more of CDL10-11. :yes |
Some people want to hear the "raw" versions of the concerts before they're properly mixed and etc. It's a bit sad that Ayu's judged so harshly on her live-broadcast concerts and the DVDs aren't even taken into account because they're too tinkered with or whatever. It's like, come on now. She sounded fine to people at the concert venue, didn't sound that great during the broadcast, and sounds fine on the DVD. IMO, that doesn't really mean they played around with the sound too much like some people seem to think.
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But this version is not ts file itīs a HDRip 1280x720 Hope someone will share a FullHD ts soon :/ |
I don't think the one on jpoppv is going to get shared... seems like people have to pay for the file?
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At jpoppv, you have to use points for the links~ which makes it a serious ***** to get the good stuff they post.
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Jup itīs very hard to get those points on jpoppv, you must post to get some, but if you post too much in short time you get banned for spamming, and they are very rude/negative to foreigners, if you only can speak english tehre you have like no chance to ever get high points and such.
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I have permission level 21, but I am still not seeing the links >_>
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they demoted me at kmc sniff lol
the codes might be embedded in a picture, if there is one. |
30.12!!!
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Because if the links are really hidden in the pic, we need the original one to extract the links with ay825... If it's not the original link it won't work. EDIT : The first part of HD CDL is up for download at AyuChina. |
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There's nothing else in the thread? Sometimes you have to highlight the full post because links are hidden there... Aaaaaaaah KMC is annoying -_- XD Thank you for your help BTW ^^ |
I want to buy the merchandise
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Part 1 & 2 are now up on AyuChina
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If I have to trust a live recording I will definitely trust the TV one... and these 2 vids comfort my opinion. |
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After your comment I decided to give one more chance to this "distressful" CDL :yes |
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One can hear difference even in the first note in Last Angel!! It's OK here but on 31.12 it was off-key. Well, I think I'm lucky that I sing myself and can easily notice such differences. I'm not trying to say that many users are tone-deaf but some of you really can't hear differences, don't hear pitch correction in edited versions of the songs, etc and try to convince the guys who do hear that we're wrong. Funny situation, no offences. |
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when will the goods be uploaded in YesAsia, I really want to get sth ^^
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If people are still on about Ayu not being the best singer/having the best vocals, there really is no helping them. She's never been about trained, superb vocals -- go to alan if you want that, IMO. Even in the edited DVD versions, we aren't getting 100% omg perfect flawless because hey -- it's edited.
So who cares if you're musically trained and can notice this or that flaw? You're wasting your critiques because in the end, Ayu's career was never built on the assumption she could sing well, but that she could make a living singing her heart out no matter what. |
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I am... was wonderful though, so I'm not sure why the TV version sounds so butchered. :tired So its not true that concert-goers think vocals are good because we are too distracted by the show. Yes, the show is great, but what we're ultimately there for is to hear her live. So no matter how excited and hyper you are, it is natural to listen out for the vocals. |
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Of course in general most people will hear if the vocals are bad or not. I remeber going to Mylene Farmer show in Saint-Petersburg. The sound was REALLY lound so even her pitch seemed to sound higher that it really was. And of course I missed several off-key notes. But when I listened very clean fan recording of that show every single flaw was much more obvious even though that this show was very good vocal-wise. That's my point! |
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Who cares? Very polite! The point of my post was to show that that recordings were from 30.12, that's it. So please behave yourself and don't make up something I didn't even have in my mind. I know what makes her a good artist too. Quote:
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But I still disagree. I've been trained half my life as a musician to listen out for these things, so no matter how distracting the show is/how loud the speakers get, I normally recognize it when ayu goes off-pitch. With that, I still stick with my point that ayu's live vocals were definitely not that atrocity that was the TV version. |
Really holding out for the TV/HD version :( The Youko rip's quality is meh - for a performance or two I never mind, but I could never watch a whole concert in that quality ^^;
Here's hoping someone manages to snag it from AC or somewhere else soon! :) |
Just throwing this out there, but Yoyogi as a venue just has horrible sound to begin with anyways. It was never meant to hold concerts. I've been to nearly all concert venues in Tokyo and so far I would rate Yoyogi as the worst acoustics wise.
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I am behaving myself. It's not my fault you chose to take offense at what I said, especially since I wasn't bashing you for anything. All I said was it's a waste of time to get so worked up over how she sounds because we all KNOW she isn't a perfect singer. So why bother bothering? Quote:
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You can grab it there! |
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bah, stupid JPOPSUKI banning me. :headache
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looks like it was taken down from jpopsuki....
I'm still waiting for real HD ver.....but from what I saw already.... my ears will bleed..... |
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^ yeah... looks like link to it was different....
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okayy i've watched the first part of CDL!!
well, I was so impressed!!! even though ayu's vocal was so strained T__T but some of the parts she sang pretty good.. my fave parts, absolutely MARIONETTE!! wowowww awesomeee...then free & easy.. endless sorrow, so beautiful!! Ayu looked like a butterfly queen or something, coz the butterfly-shaped chair is so PRETTY!! and i totally love the medley of DEAREST - HEAVEN - CAROLS - Together When... so heart breakingg!! and of course Dream ON!! it's SUPERB!! love the stage design so much..love they playing with the moving hydrolic stages..the LCDs screens..awesome!! Need to DVD now!! wish to see in HD version! |
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Watched the HD rip.
AMAZING. That ending was awesome! I want more medleys from Ayu. Also... Chisa's departure appears to be because of a knee injury that turned into something dangerous that needed surgery, so she has retired from dancing after 17 years of dancing. I wish her good luck in the future with whatever she ends up doing, which appears to be related to selling/making sake! (http://ameblo.jp/congachisa/entry-10759767637.html) |
^owww....that's really unfortunate...wish you all luck Chisa-chan!
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it's sad..but i hope for the best for her in her future job :) |
Awww, poor Chisa. Hopefully she does well in her new venture.
がんばって、ちさーさん！ |
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I think you'd have a point if Ayu was some talentless hack but she can sing well. That's not a assumption. She's had some vocally great performances and that's where the critiques come from. Because people know she can do better. In regards to the first part of your post, you're right that any fan should already know that she isn't regarded as one of the best singers and her vocals are usually pretty flawed. I doubt anyone expects alan or Kalafina type vocals out of her but they do expect Ayu to be consistent with her own vocals and there's nothing wrong with pointing that out. |
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I'm so sad about Chisa! I really do hope she'll be okay... |
Aw, poor chisa :(. I wish her the best!
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reading these post about how good her voice is or how sucky it is, it's freaking annoying.
enjoy the damn music and don't be mad that you can't sing like her. anyways I really love that the stage is in the middle |
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I just watched the entire concert, finally. The 3GB version was OK, not a real HD quality but at least on a level, I could say, I was able to enjoy the show.
This concert was really a whole new experience. The stage, which remembered me on Concert Tour 2000, which stands in the middle of the arena, Ayu wearing a wig during encore (did she do this anytime before?!), Ayu not making the audience relapse into silence and then yelling "Arigatou Gozaimasu" at the end of the concert (that really made me look like this :msad). Then the 'Dearest~HEAVEN~CAROLS~Together When...' medley (waaah, four of her most awesome songs at once :mgagged) and the short version of 'do it again', which was mostly a refrain-singing as kind of a closing message. Really neat concert. More of this, please. |
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