Why are K-pop fans so....
 

...I'm not exactly sure of the correct word :( 'Intense' maybe??

What I mean is why do some K-pop fans (and I don't mean all K-pop fans as I myself am one) act so crazy over their fandom?

I'm trying so hard to avoid making it sound like I'm saying 'they are deluded and crazy' but I think maybe thats the only way I can get this across lolol Its like no matter what their favorite act does; they are always right, the whole world is against them and every other person in the world is a hater if you don't agree with them. It's completely insane!! It is impossible to have a rational conversation with some of these people.

For example (this is not directed at JYJ/DBSK in anyway its just an example of a crazy fan) I once commented on a topic (not at AHS btw) about JYJ's first album. I happened to say that I didn't like it very much, which I think is a perfectly valid opinion, but then reams (I mean seriously like 20 or 30) of these "fans" replied telling me I was a hater, that JYJ were so better than me and about 6 told me they were going to "bash me with the JYJ frying pan"...

And its not just JYJ fans before anyone has a go at me. I never seem to see this in J-pop fans. Yeah you get the odd troll that likes to annoy people but you can ignore that.

Am I the only person thats noticed this???

They probably have some sort of syndrome that makes them socially inept.

No, you arent the only one...and I know its kind of one of those "we cant generalise all people" types of things, but, god, lets just be real....the kpop fandom scene is just insane.

And yeah, anyone can be this way, but...after you've seen crazy twitter trend wars, and fans harassing photographers, and artists, and people just ruining careers, and then can we mention the amounts of suicides we get....

I mean, after a while, you just have to scratch your head and say, "What the hell is going on in Korea?"

Seriously....and I know some people have seen it worse than me, cause i'm not even in it that much...and I've seen some crazy ****...and I have no explanation other than theyre just crazy...so, I'd really like to know too.

Yeah I would love to know too...Even though every country has their own crazy stans, but it just seems there's a lot more in Korea.

I would love to know what would cause some of those stans to send idols their dirtied pads :thud

aww can I just say thanks for trying to be polite about it :heart

It's a huge fandom and all these have their own brand of crazy, I had to deal with some delusional fangirls myself :no Some Cassies and ELFs can be exceptionally scary.

But what can we do, it really just depends on where you hang out online .. If you want to avoid them just stay away from Allkpop (or pretend the comments section doesn't exist, that's what I do), Koreaboo, and 50% of the tumblr kpop population.

Some of the batshit-crazy-but-harmless ones are even funnier than trolls though :laugh .. The stuff on Kpop Secrets are so hilarious :roflmao .. "OMG YOUR OPPA STOLE MY OPPA'S BALLOON COLOR" .. "GUYZ YOONA IS MY BFF AND SHE READS KPOPSECRETS AND YOUR BASHING MAKES HER CRY STOP PLZZZ" .. "THINKING OF DOOJOON HELPS ME POOP !"
( I wish I was making these up but I'm not that creative)

lol ikr :roflmao

I'm a kpop fan myself. a huge but still somewhat sane one, and I found the crazy kpop fans are sometimes funny :laugh
but most of them are scary and thinks their oppars and unnirs are gods or whatever xD

it's really annoying when I hate a release, posted my opinion and get the fans bashing me, I mean I stan the same band with you, why did you bash me for not liking a release ? o_O

and I really don't get most of the people at allkpop.. -_-
I hate how most people thinks that all of the kpop fans acts like that, normal fans existed too -_-
they shouldn't judge how all of us behave only from allkpop .__.

I'm a huge kpop fan as well.. i've been following kpop since 2008..
and to tell the truth, I'VE NEVER BEEN THIS TIRED in MY FANDOM LIFE before!
Kpop ent is sure THE MOST TIRING EVER!
but most of the time, i try so hard to calm myself down and just ignore whatever those ppl wanna say about whom i like..most of the time i just rant few tweets (thru twitter) and then that's it.

the hardest thing for me, u know, when i love two artists/groups at the same time, like example JYJ and SNSD.. even though i love JYJ more.. but it really hurts me to see some of the JYJ fans bash on SNSD or vice versa just because they are more successful or whatever stupid reasons. some of the fans tend to hate SNSD or any SME artists just because they are in SME company who's in legal dispute with JYJ..
i mean, what's the relation of other artists with JYJ that make you so HATEFUL..wanna hate... then just go bombard the company.. n leave the artists alone.. but guess that will never happen~

and know what, the funniest is that i ever found in my country's kpop fans..
they even created a forum for SNSD-haters, the purpose for the forum is to bash SNSD and to discuss any negative things about the girls...just about anything.. sometimes i feel that they are even more updated than the real fans. that's just so funny. and also they sell SNSD-haters goodies like t-shirts, stickers, etc... That's totally insane!! earning money with such negativity purpose.

it's also funny that when there's question to each fandom, "which fandom is the scariest?", each fandom will start pointing finger... cassies gonna say Sones, sones gonna say elfs, elfs gonna say sones, and etc etc..
where in fact the majority, it's actually ALL THE SAME lols~

kpop fandom is TOO OVER~
also the power of kpop fans that they could make avex CEO, Masato Matsuura to shut his own twitter down. LOL~

^The whole Max twitter thing is what made me ask this if I'm being honest lololol I saw the article at TokyoHive and was like "awh why are they harassing him?? He hasn't done anything wrong :(". Most of TH was pretty much the same response but then I noticed that the same article was over at allkpop and WHOA!!! Some of those *****es are NUTS!! X_X'

Also what makes me laugh is the fact that some fans of the same fandom argue among themselves because one person has a bias for one member and one for another 0_0 I mean what the hell is THAT?! Surely if your a fan then you like the music not just one person?? Its crazy.....

(also I'm glad no one is attacking me over this cuz I didn't intend this to be a bash K-pop fans thread :))

i know, its crazy. allkpop is bad, so i do stay away and just read the posts. or i wait for kristel to post the articles. and yes, emiko's right. you see that and you wonder why there are so many suicides in korea. it's just so intense and unecessary. :(

Didn't one fan write a letter to some boyband member with her period blood and sent public hairs too? So gross.
I've also heard at big concerts where lots of bands and acts perform in one night, fights breakout between fanbases and there's been reports of fans throwing anthrax and chemicals into crowds of other fans.

^ wha? that's disgusting :dead2


there's also cases where fans run onstage and attack the performers. like...take for example taeyeon, who was pulled offtsgae during a run devil run performance. and also wheesung who was almost kicked by a fan who climbed onstage. crazy.

I have heard of anti-fans doing quite a but of damage to people. I think the most famous one is the girl who tried to poison Yunho by putting super glue in a drink :(

^ Geez, talk about extreme. that's horrible :( i hear about kicking and attacking, but not trying to kill....

over blindly k-pop netizens need to learn how to tie their shoes and grow up...
i'm tired looking and hearing their attitude...
and as u know in my biggest nation forum all k-pop fans r hated because of their childish attitude..
they are spamming every time some one make a negative review about their idol..
they act as if their idol is the best and the most original idol in the universe...n afterward they bashing other artists...
what a.......

Actual fans are just as bad. Poor Taemin of SHINee got bullied at school just because he was in SHINee. People used to take photos of him, follow him, harass him, etc... and some of the worst ones claimed to be his fans X_X'

Mhm, I have heard horror stories about KPop-fans too. At first I didn't want to believe them, because I thought that they were way over the top, but I have started to like KPop quite a bit in the last few weeks and have already encountered enough crazy fans to know that these stories are not just rumours, but the sad truth!

I mainly listen to JPop and the behaviour of the KPop-fans scares the ***** out of me, to be completely honest. There are disillusioned fans in the JPop-scene too, but they can't beat the KPop-stans!

I don't get their behaviour! Can't you just enjoy the music and/or the personalities of the people/bands you like and leave the other singers alone?
If you don't like a band, then say so once and be done with it. Bashing them or even threatening to kill them goes TOO FAR!!

Deleted my previous post because it seemed to be kinda... Defensive? I don't know :laugh

Well, everything has been basically said already. I don't think anyone can answer to your question, if it isn't a rhetorical one. All I can say is that's better to just concentrate on music and positive sides of the fandom. For example, I'll be always in awe how korean fans are organized, creating all these projects to support their idols.

And he requested his management and company to not take charges. Ugh say about a pure heart this guy has, but seriously, the things I would do to that girl and other "fans" :/

well actually with the max twitter thing,



talking about fans of the same idol group... sigh.. u know what ever happened to one of Super Junior's fangirls in Korea?
a fan who was used to be fat appeared in a show called star king with a new look then after the show, she took a pic of him with Yesung, if i'm not wrong, then all the other fangirls were so angry and started to accuse the girl for having plastic surgery to look slim, and all the harsh comments on her blog every single day. after getting lots of bashing comments on her blog, she thought she couldn't take any longer, in the end, she committed suicide. SO PITY~~

ah~ yea if talking about the kpop fans positive side, yea they absolutely have! like noisy_harmony said..
they are really loyal to the artists, they'd give any gifts to them, name it, the latest electronic devices, instruments, even i heard they gave car before. branded clothes and bags are whole lot already. we can see that the artists' mostly every day clothes are given by the fans haha~
but the thing is, if they can buy those expensive stuff, but why they couldn't help the artists to boost their domestic CD/DVD sales?

^ :( That's so sad...poor girl, that makes me crazy angry, no one deserves such hurt.

I read about this and cried! :(
I feel so sorry for this girl and the people, who made her commit suicide, should be ashamed of themselves!!


@about the gifts: Wow...I didn't know about that! This is...crazy, like seriously! I would NEVER EVER buy something like a car or an instrument for an artist, even when I love him/her more than anything.

I think it would be better to support them by buying their releases!!

They are crazy and intense. I like Kpop but I'm not head over heels in love with it but some people just take things way too far.

I knew KPop fans are heavier than others, but I actually didn't know it is THAT bad!
It makes me anrgy and so sad at the same time. I mean fandom is about enjoying and sharing ypur favourite artists and bands.
I'm a bit speechless right now.

What scares me the most is the sasaeng ("stalker") fans .. They basically follow their idols all day and pay hundreds of dollars for special taxi drivers who tail their Oppa's car. You know it's too much when an idol tweets to ask girls to stop standing outside his dorm and yelling his name in the middle of the night :no

Oh and before someone starts bashing everything about kpop and its fandom (cos that's what always happens) .. Not all of us are like that. There are sane kpop fans out there and it sucks that we have to be grouped together with these maniacs :(

*patshead*
Don't worry! I think, we all know that there are also sane KPop-fans in the world! :yes

The problem is, that bad things (in this case, crazy fans) tend to overshadow the good ones!

lol this is true and ngl i used to be the same XD nothing extreme though thankgod 0___0
i agree its totally annoying and unnecessary =/

dont know if this was mentioned before, but do you guys remember those loveletters to taecyeon written in BLOOD??!! there are some seriously insane people on this world D:

I wouldn't just say is the Korean fanbase. It's in general some fans go crazy over an artist that when you say oh I don't like this like a crapload of people go rawr on you.

It's not just K-pop, but you hear about it more so I guess people think K-pop fans are crazy. I never really venture past Omona, and even that's starting to get on my nerves tbh

I'm a K-Pop fan, and don't think I'll ever act like that. Some things that they do are just insane (a fan sending Taecyon a letter written in her period blood, that superglue thing with Yunho, etc.) It's crazy x-x But then again, the whole Korean music industry has been under a lot of, controversy?

haha, this thread made me laugh at how ridiculous some fans can be! :laugh

anyway, it reminds me of when BoA was debuting in the US and her fans went CRAZY over some of her promo photos and she had to scrap them! i feel the same way as most everyone else in this thread, jpop fans can be crazy, but in general it does seem like kpop has even crazier fans. i'm not sure why though, its very strange.

I didn't think they were that bad until I read the comments in here :thud

^ me too!

I, myself, am a K-pop fan too. I immensely love Korean songs especially ballads from Drama series. I go-gaga when I see Korean-related stuff but not as much as I do with J-pop. However, I try not to be very biased, crazy, etc. about my favorite artists especially bashing other artists.

I can't ever imagine that people were harmed because of this kind of fandom.

Seriously, I would enjoy K-pop if I didn't feel uncomfortable knowing all the crap the artists go through, how they're treated and now knowing how crazy the fans can be, even though I knew that already, but what's been revealed in here is just too much lol

Plus, I don't find the music that good :shrug But that's just me and my personal taste.

haha despite of the crazy fans... still,their music is conquering rite now~

ah talking about stalker fans..that's scary~
they even have name "ssassaeng", my friend told me that those fans are from rich family so that they won't even need to work or something..just to spend time to stalk their favorite artists.. they even hire taxi drivers for this stalking mission..
it's funny that sometimes, reporters don't need to have this paparazzi job u know.. so they just buy the pics from the fans. u know, most of the fans got DSLR type of cameras in any concerts/events, the result is always as good as the ones reporters take.

anyway, it's no use even though the artists themselves already feel annoying and rant it on twitter bout the stalker fans' behaviors, they still keep on going. XDD
they love their artists too much as they think that the artists are belong to them... but once they hate... coz u doing something bad, it'll turn 180 degrees to hate you~
it happened once with 2PM group when their leader out of the group. the fans threaten to spread the stalking pics also damage their CDs. things like that.

Yeah!! I absolutely love K-pop! It's really awesome and high energy stuff :) Its just the crazy stans that make me kinda want to keep my distances from K-pop based forums tho lololol

Poor Jay Park :( But he's back again now and as strong as ever :)

^ yeap.. it took time for those fans to love the current 2PM back..and now it seems everything has back to normal again.

I cannot say much because all of you guys has been contributing to this topic :D :yes

What I don't like is them worshiping their idols. Even though as Kpop fan I tend to love many musicians, like in JPop and some people in my country that loves Kpop find it weird because they mainly focus on one thing. And the way they act as if every song their idol has been releasing is perfect and their idols are perfect is just :shakehead :irked

This what I love when the fans are...sane? :laugh

Yeah, Sasaeng is the scariest thing I ever know about KPop besides the whole blood letter, glue drink, etc etc. I just didn't know how these people actually think :no :/

And the last point, I agree. That's what I hate about people outside Kpop that generalize things too much. I know the fandom is super intense and crazy but generalizing without seeing the whole picture is bad to the root.

And luckily I found AHS to be the right place to discuss Kpop without overly intense and eager fandom like in some forums :D

^Yes I love the K-Pop fans here! :D

even if I'm quite an active member @ affxtion, SFI or other kpop forums I only post my opinion after I read the news and never come back to the thread :laugh

shouldn't forget the scary stalkers and haters eh, I feel bad for the idols now :(

As for the crazy Western based kpop fans, I think for awhile they were living in the shadow of Jpop and Jpop fans, and so they built up this anti-Jpop thing and they were often times very defensive. Now that kpop is gaining popularity, they're moving into this whole "yeah we've always been better" "kpop ftw" "korea is the best" type of thing.

but that's just my own personal experience with them. korean based kpop fans, well, i know nothing about haha.

Hm there are also "anti-kpop" lovers of jpop :shrug

Of course there are, but I think that KPop-fans are more intense, when it comes to hating.
I can only speak about my personal experiences, though.

Their reasons for hating JPop are mostly:

*Japanese artists can't sing as well as Korean
*can't dance as well
*and are in general not as talented as Korean musicians

Korean musicians (or at least idol groups) seem to get a very strict - not to say cruel - training.
But there are so many Japanese singers, who are just as talented as Korean ones.


I just don't get all the hate thing. Why a person would want to waste their time and energy with hating somebody is beyond me!

Hm I still don't agree. I become convinced by going through various sites and communities that both sides are insane. and both contain trolls

Like I have said...I can only speak from personal experiences, but I'm sure that you're right.

I can remember that JPop-fans on tumblr stopped following my blog, because I started posting KPop-graphics! I mean what the...! :headache


But I try to stay as far away from drama as possible. I already have enough drama in my own life and really don't need to participate in stupid fights between JPop- and KPop-fans!

When I like a song then I like it and I couldn't care less from which country the singers are from! :yes

thats why i keep away.

haters gonna hate anyway, wether it's jpop hate or kpop hate

I think it has something to do with the Korean culture, I'm no expert in Korean culture and I only speak from what I've heard from a Korean friend. Koreans tend to be blunt about things which I think translate to being aggressive when someone criticize their idol and in the same way do horrible things to the idols they don't like just because they can.

I'm probably wrong but I doubt any knows the answer since it's very subjective.

I'm sure sensationalism has something to do with it as well.

The KPop industry loves to (over)hype up news about themselves so I wouldn't be surprised if it goes both ways for both good news and bad news. It's a "any publicity is good publicity" mentality and it probably feeds a vicious cycle of fans eating up the hype and acting crazy and then media outlets reporting on that craziness.

If there was no hype, the KPop industry and fandoms probably wouldn't be that much different from JPop.

Really :shakehead ? I didn't want to bring this up but it's mostly Jpop fans who hate Kpop, not vice versa, all the Kpop fans I've met either like Jpop as well or simply have zero interest in it.

From what I've seen (here and in Arama), a lot of Jpop fans are bitter because Kpop is gaining a lot more attention than Jpop and because they think Jpop is oh-so-superior to Kpop.

I think that Kpop fandom's main negative point is the loud and obnoxious fans, while Jpop's negative point is the elitist ones :shrug

Okay, I didn't have a CLUE about the crazy fanboys and girls until I read this thread (yes sometimes I'm a very clueless girl) but the part about the girl that commited suicide just brought me to tears, I'm really shocked ._.
I can't understand people who act like that ^^;
Envy is sure a sickening thing ^^;

I think kpop fans are so crazy because the most of them are teenagers. Teens are always crazy...:laugh

That's what I hate about 'Anti-Kpop' Jpop Fans :( especially in tumblr. I stay following ones even with JPop biases that I don't like. Idc really as long as we have something other than that to share.

And I agree, as long as it's enjoyable whenever they came from I don't care!

Indeed. Both sides have negative sides. Not just one. Like Koumori agree on!

Besides, based on my experience KPop fans don't really care about what happen in JPop scenes so they kinda shut about it until it involves their idol.

This thread has opened my eyes. Holy, I didn't know that these kinds of things went on in the K-Pop fandom. I assumed it would be only as bad as the J-Pop fandom.

THIS. :yes

When it comes to K-pop, I usually just keep my opinions and thoughts to myself. To be honest I personally do not communicate with other K-pop fans because of their irrational and childish behavior. The way some of those fans carry themselves is just downright repulsive and maddening. Real talk. Besides, I'm mostly a fan of old school K-pop (1999-2002). ;)

This forum is all i need for my kpop needs :) and jpop of course.

It's hard, in my opinion, to be loud and obnoxious and not be elitist, haha. But again, everyone has different experiences. The reason I didn't talk about Jpop fans was because this is a topic on Kpop fans...

Of course Jpop has crazy fans. Although the elitism I feel with Jpop fans is usually towards other Jpop singers. i.e. koda is better than ayu, utada is the best compared to anyone, etc etc.

Plus, the majority of my experience with kpop fans was from 2004-2006, when I listened to both jpop and kpop equally and regularly. kpop fans then and now are quite different, which I believe is due to the recent popularity spike with korean music.

but yes, both sides of the spectrum have crazy fans. no better no worse, just crazy.

as far as i know...
those kpop fans who feels superior than other,,,,everythng made in korea is a masterpiece...
noone on the earth can sing and dance like their idol n idolize them like a god...
n when it comes to jpop...they bash jpop like jpop idol r talentless cant sing n can dance..
dont forget about the kpop media who blow up n exagerating all the news...

^
Calm down,
Everyone is sharing opinions calmly and we didn't tend on leaning on one side either. Should you put a salt on this?

I wonder if you're just love to troll on things or just don't know how to read the situations :shrug
Plus you're attitude is just the same as those loud obnoxious KPop fans, but you're on JPop that's all if you know what you've been doing.

There are people who treat J-Pop like its better than everything the way you describe K-Pop fans. I find that there are some who think that all of Japan is superior, won't listen to anything but J-Pop, eat with chopsticks, only watch anime etc. There are fans like that in every fandom, not just K-Pop.

Honestly, I can't speak for everyone but I think that any person (or fan if you will) who is deeply passionate about something may come off as 'intense'. I mean, there are stans everywhere you look whether it be western or eastern or w/e kind of music. It's just how it is :shrug.

Me personally, I just try to ignore it when people put down my favorite music/artists because everyone is entitled to his/her opinion & whether he/she likes it or not has nothing to do with me.

Of course, there is a fine line between just pure opinion & bashing (where it just gets disrespectful), but even then what's the point of letting it get to you? Chances are the person bashing the singer/artist has no idea what he/she is talking about & aren't even worth your time of the day lol, so really...there's no point in letting every little negative thing get to you (I mean 'you' as in everyone in general btw).


So yeah, in a nutshell you're gonna see this kind of thing everywhere you look...it's not exclusive to k-pop fans by any means.

Pretty much exactly what I would've said if you hadn't already.

I see a lot more crazy coming from the K-Pop fans than those of J-Pop though. I'm a fan of both J and K-Pop, and have encountered SO MUCH more hostility from K-Pop fans. J-Pop fans, like someone said, can be very elitist with their favorite artists and put down other artists, but the unwarranted hatred was almost always toward the rival artists, not fans. With K-Pop, if you say one negative thing about a K-Pop group, you're automatically a "hater". I remember all this retarded drama on last.fm on the 4minute page where people would flip their **** on anyone who said they didn't worship a new song or something like that. They'd literally worship Hyuna and call other female K-Pop group rappers (like Miryo and CL) dykes; I kid you not. It's just...disgusting. It honestly lead to me disliking 4minute, as crazy as that sounds. A similar thing happened to me with Hikki because of some really extreme fans, but Hikki's the only Japanese artist that's happened to me with. With K-Pop, I practically can't even listen to or watch SNSD because all I can think of is their craziest fans (which seems to be about 75% of them) and how freakily obsessed they are.

Some people just need to calm the **** down.

there are crazies in pretty much every fandom, but kpop as a whole seems to take the cake. I don't ever read the comments on allkpop, kpop-related YouTube videos, etc. because there is always so much hyperbolic praise of the artist(s), anti-fans hating on every aspect of the artist(s) and tons of vitriol being spewed by both sides to whoever opposes their opinion; that is extremely off-putting.

I understand that fans are often overly enthusiastic about their favorites (I definitely can be), but a lot can't show support for their faves without first putting every other similar group/idol down in the process - as well as anyone else who has opposing views. I don't mean to generalize the entire fandom, because I know there are a lot of normal, sane fans, but the crazy ones seem to ruin all the fun for everybody.

I have to agree! Its crazy how intense these fans can get, and also
they expect their idols to be perfect, if they do anything they dont like, like if a girl idol wears shorts that are too short or shows off too much skin they totally rip on her and destroy, or if they forget to say thank you on a tv show or something where they are not perfect they get destroyed... poor idols...

This is going back a few pages but someone mentioned that Jpop is more hostile to Kpop than Kpop is to Jpop.

This is kinda stating the obvious, but for (some) Jpop fans, the success of Korean artists in Japan in an intrusion, or making Japanese artists unable to succeed and overlooked etc...

However, I've seen (again, some) Kpop fans be more open - their favourite act making a debut in Japan is opportunity and development, they recognise that they can make more money there. However, (some) also see this as moving away and not being a loyal, I've seen more of the first though. Or maybe I've been looking in nicer places based on some of these posts...

What I find funny is that while Kpop acts expanding into Japan is welcomed by (here mostly Western) fans of Kpop, expansion into America is slaughtered and insulted, which I find bemusing. I guess this goes back to listening to Kpop because it's not American (or Western, for non-US fans) rather than liking the music. And, as somebody mentioned, they find most of the "crazy" (Western) fans to be younger/early teens, and I guess we all thought that way when we were 13/14.

I guess this is because the 10% that are crazy get more exposure than the normal 90%.
And does anybody have links to the articles about the blood letters and glue drink? I'd like to read about them to see how much of it is actually sensationalism.

Omgg reading this thread made me go O_O. Haha.

It reminded me of an interview Utada did in English for some radio station where she talked about how she had an entire warehouse storage place for things that her fans gave her. She was talking about how she opened a box and was like "What the hell is all this?" and she realized it was the stuff that her staff had seized in advance and labelled as like 'dangerous fans' or something and that she opened a couple of things and people had sent her knives and stuff.

There are some really crazy fans out there.

Most of kpop fans are scary... And i am soooo bored of the kpop dramas and battles

It's really sad :/ Taeycon didn't deserve it (well...nobody does)

I'm a kpop fan too. If I ever get delusional or start doing crazy things etc. please hit me xD Except for when it comes to my marriage with Big Bang's T.O.P xD

But yeah I agree, there are some crazy fans out there.

I'm a big TVXQ fan and after the lawsuit news hit... oh dear lord... up in till now, the drama is horrible that unfortunately... I began to isolate myself from the fandom. Then I noticed it happens in a lot of other k-pop fandoms.

But I don't listen to a lot of k-pop. I think I listen more to Korean rock indies. But I intend to stay away from the drama and just spazz with close friends.

And wow... I never heard the blood letter before... now I'm freaked out. O_O

^omg seriously...of all the things that just to happen to kpop, tvxq had to split. It was mayhem for a long while.

Just a quick FYI, writing / saying retard or anything similar is an ablest slur. Don't do it again :no

Someone else touched upon it in this thread already but as for the Korean fans themselves being "intense", it has to do with it's essentially preteens to teens that listen to idol music in Korea. The possessiveness, jealousy, bashing, harassment, etc. stems from immaturity.

you're not alone. i dont get why they are extremely obsessed to their favourite artist and so sarcastic. i dont like to debate with them so i just leave them alone. thats why i never attracted to korean song anymore.

i totally agree about the kpop fans thing. i get people who say they won't even go near like WGs, 2NE1 etc cause they try making one little comment, maybe like how they didn't quite like one small particular thing and all the fans jump all over him/her.

I'll admit I like a few kpop artists. Most are solo artists, but I keep my interests to a reasonable level. I'm actually scared of that sort of thing starting here if any of them managed to be successful in all honesty.

Totally agree with this.

Strictly speaking about foreign fandoms I've encountered: The extremist side of J-pop fandom seems to stem more from a sense of elitism not just towards other music fandoms (Western and K-Pop are the most common) but within the fandom itself. Like others mentioned there's 'rivaling' fandoms between heavy hitters like Koda/Ayu/Namie/Hikki, the sense of superiority some strictly J-music fans have over anime fans/otaku, the stigma attached to idol groups and their fans and the list goes on.

With K-pop, it's like the delusional/overly defensive/overbearing aspects of the worse side of a music fandom taken up to unforeseen levels. I've been in fandoms full of trolls, delusional fans and where dramadramadrama is the name of the game but in all honesty, I have never encounter anything like the K-pop fandom. I'd like to say it's just because most of them are just immature 12 year olds that found something they think is really cool and want to hype it as much as they can but... they can't all fall in that category. :laugh Of course, I know they aren't all this way (AHS has a very pleasant K-pop community <3) but it's really hard to... minimize the problems with the more extreme fans especially when they're so vocal... and loud... and crazy... and great in numbers. lol

I think what it is with the K-pop fandom though is like was previously mentioned they're a much more Idol driven industry than J-pop. With J-pop, just with females idols, the major mainstream idol groups nowadays are under the AKB48 umbrella and before them it was Momosu and all their affiliated acts years before. Very few hit it big and most stay obscure indie acts. With K-pop, most of the major acts are idols and idol fans have a reputation for having a bit of a control problem over the idols they support. The image of that idol within their mind is pure and perfect and they prefer it to stay that way (hence the name). They'll dig up dirt to try to tarnish another idol's reputation just so their favorite within the group can get ahead or even dig up dirt on or bash on their own favorite idol to 'punish' her... it's some freaky need to try to have some power or control in the fandom other then with just their wallets. But again, I've never seen it as bad as I've seen it in the K-pop fandom so irdk.

as someone mentioned above while all cultures have their crazies when it comes to fandom, kpop takes the cake. There's a reason why alot of artists/actors commit suicide. at the same time though dont let a kpop artist go to Japan and do something wrong They'll get down right harrassed by netizens,as is the case with kim tae hee right now. The poor girl just doesnt deserve it either

I know, right?

Holy hell......

^EW I was reading about that earlier.


So the Koreans are pissed off that she pointed to the island saying it was Japan....and the Japanese are pissed off that she was saying the island was Korean.

Yeah. They both sound like real winners.

And people say that the disputes and racism between Korea and Japan are over. uh huh. SURE. Maybe in Happy Magical Ayu Land.

^^I just loled

^ I laughed too ngl. These netizens seem just as petty as those girls who turned off their lightsticks at Dream Concert 08.

Tbh their reasons for hating her don't make sense at all. She's Korean so of course she thinks Dokdo belongs to her country, how does that make her anti-Japan WTF. And the sad thing is that she's acting in a drama where a Korean woman and a Japanese man fall in love so =S I wish both countries would let go of their prejudice for one second and try to accept each other.

Netizens stirring more **** over 2ne1's video and how anti-japan it is

^ LMAO
Way to go netizens! You all should make a novel about great conspiracies behind the media :P

People in both countries need to get over themselves.