The hidden meaning behind FIVE's title?
 

Within the SWEET interview, Ayu said that there is a hidden message that can be found in the title of FIVE.

It seems as though Mixi members have already been hard at work figuring out what it could be, and someone posted this.

http://i54.tinypic.com/1w8xs.jpg

"H♡PE"

The P is backwards and the O is a heart. But do you think this could be it?

Discuss. haha

Wow. I would've never been able to find this but it makes sense to me. Really cool! Even if this wasn't ayus intention, the font totally looks like "H♡PE" this way.
I think there might be another hidden message behind the word FIVE, but not sure what that could be.
She said this in the October sweet issue? I wondered what she said in this interview. Thanks for posting this :)

I'm bad in guessing hidden meaning =(

Maybe, but the "P" looks weird.
The curve in the V looks like a heart, there are many curves in the letters though.

Before I only nottice the V for 5 in roman numbers (as L for 50)
We had L
then Love Songs
and now FIVE

It does makes sense! at least, now nobody can say that Ayu named the album FIVE just because it has 5 tracks!

thats really interesting! it may not be intended that way but its still a nice find :)
hopefully more guesses come up

Wow, I never would have picked that up! I think its highly likely to be "H♡PE", if nothing else. :yes

I'm wondering about this after my Japanese friend said that FIVE resembles HOPE few days ago. So, this is it. Thanks for sharing :D

Wow, to me it makes sense!

it makes sense, cause it was 5 months after that disaster

The message could be Hope.. but why have the P backwards??

As for the title.. I think its FIVE because there are five new songs.. nothing more. and they stylized the FIVE to look like hope.

^cool, I never realized that (about five months after the tragedy)...It's really interesting.

To be honest, for a second I thought perhaps Ayu called her album FIVE because Beyonce called hers 4 (lol), but I'm glad I regained my hope in Ayu (no pun intended). She really does think quite deeply about her titles, despite how simple they may seem :).

make sense!!! REALLY COOL!

omg that's so cool! i never would have thought of that, haha. :P i think it could be true! it sounds like something ayu would do! :)

well, ayu never had titles of her albums just because.

Yeah, but it's okay to be astounded by common knowledge once in a while :D.

I totally didn't notice!
So FIVE months after the disaster -> HOPE. Awesome.

H♡PE... Wow so cool, it makes sense and it has a deep meaning!
I am admirative since I wouldn't have been able to figure out something like this.
I still wait on Ayu to confirm this or explain the meaning she intended...

yeay it makes sense. or maybe there is something more?

That's really clever of those guys! I would have never seen it.

FIVE = HOPE
FIVE = Five songs within the album *except beloved on the CD Only
FIVE = as PoetGirl said, Five months after that terrible disaster in Japan.

That's really make sense! I hope ayu will confirm it d(>__<)b

hahaha don't worry! me too :(

wow!! I like this idea of HOPE! now it makes sense why they used this font! :think

but.. I think it'd be better if they named it HOPE without any confusion about FIVE :laugh

I think the title's relating to the months that separated march to august (release month)

wow this is so cool!
I appreciate the album even more now..
I always thought that FIVE is titled because there are 5 songs, 5 PVs and 5 Making off shots. also the outstanding "V" means FIVE.

probably ayu wanted to have a single before, but then meeting with leslie, they discussed bout things..n came to the idea of LOVE & HOPE, probably that made ayu changed her mind to have a mini album with HOPE idea implemented on it.

very nice job Ayu!

wow it does make sense!
my CREAtive ayumi :D
I always wonder why they chose the font for FIVE..
it's totally a great idea!

This is soooo cool! I really hope and also belive this is the answer! It's makes so much sense. She really thought this one through.

I'm deeply impressed. Of both Ayu and the fans who figured it out. (Cuz I would never be clever enough to get that one!) xD

it makes sense! and I would never think that far! xDD
cool find!

Maybe it has to do with ayu only showing us 5 fingernails on both of the covers XD ...

OMG... this is awesum! ayu is a total genius.. :yes

lol I've figured out that the album was named like that because it was released five months after the disaster quite a long time ago :D

But it's interesting that the font can actually be read like HOPE!

Oh this is so cool! Totally liking the idea! <3

OMG, I knew there was something else! 8D I've been a fan so long that I thought giving a title because there's five songs sounds so very un-ayuish. More than that, I thought the songs on the album had a some kind of "hope" in every one of them. To me it sounds like that. And also I did wonder the form of the letters on the cover too. V looked like a heart to me but I thought it's just my imagination. Damn, I should've investigated it myself~ :D

Not buying the hope stuff because it's just too encrypted into the letters. There IS "Love & Hope" hidden in the background of the beloved PV though, in the scene with all the kids after the colours got in. But if that aspect, the title being HOPE, really was that important they would have made it easier to notice. I'm not saying they didn't make it like that on purpose, I just think with how hidden it is it COULD just be a coincidence and if it's not it probably isn't the main aspect. Remember Ayumi said there is multiple meanings to the title, maybe that is one of those.
You could find just about every short word in the title if you just searched for it and HOPE just doesn't work very well with the songs' lyrics to me.

I just saw it as five different ways to look at her fans. Since I am convinced the album is about her fans.
There is "we grew together" in progress, "I love you" in beloved, "I miss you" in ANother song...and at least BRILLANTE, beloved and progress seem to definitely be about her fans in some way.

I don't hate the font so much anymore... :)

Wow what a good eye! I never would've guessed that!!!! That could very well be the hidden meaning :yes.

really?? I actually don't get it..can someone show it graphically?

wow. that pretty makes sense!!

^^ it's shown on the 1st page of this topic

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...49&postcount=1

Makes sense! It's amazing that you came up with it though, haha i'd never notice it x'D

She should have just named the mini album "HOPE" then. It would have made sense and been perfectly acceptable. Then she could have given the whole mini album the concept of, you know, hope. Instead of a totally incoherent release with no concept.

So yeah, I dunno if I believe that it's really supposed to spell out "HOPE." :shrug

The whole concept is 5 different views on something. And that is just what the album is. What these views are on is up for discussion but every song shows a different view on something loved, probably her fans. That's more concept than what the vast majority of pop albums have. And it IS a coherent release, not musically but lyrically and that's always the thing Ayu's albums have ben coherent in. (And the only way to make a 5 track EP musically coherent is by being boring and basically doing one genre for 5 songs or having random intros and outros to songs) They've always told stories, if the songs fit together musically came after that.

From WWD's article. Apparently the title was inspired by Leslie Kee! :D

I disagree with pretty much everything you said. It would have been totally possible to do different sounding songs and still be coherent/cohesive. It would have been possible to do different sounding songs of the same genre and not be boring. She just didn't do it here, and mostly because of the huge gap in quality between the songs. (Also, why would a mini album of five songs of the same genre necessarily be boring, anyways? Most artists don't mix genres nearly as much as Ayu does and that doesn't mean all their releases are boring or weak.) I also disagree that each song has a different view on something; three out of five of the songs are pretty much post-break up songs lyrically.

And, as Misa-chan pointed out in her post above ^, the mini album isn't called "FIVE" because it's based on five different views. It's called "FIVE" because Leslie suggested it since there were five songs. That's why, imo, it has no concept or cohesion.

^^ so, no connection with HOPE?

that's quite dissappoiting, because I really liked the idea of HOPE :think

This is supposed to be a fun topic... we don't need to get all serious *shrug*

Ayu said there is a hidden meaning within the Sweet interview. People were searching for it, found this, and I raised the question haha.

Whether or not Leslie suggested the title doesn't mean they couldn't have had a little fun with it.

I mean, since it -is- in the beloved video, having a connection in the title wouldn't be far off at all...

Anyway, no one has to believe this. This isn't fact, just an interesting find haha.

Ayumi said there are several meanings to it. What tells you "5 songs and so on..." is the only one? It IS 5 songs...and every one of those is a different view. If you read the lyrics properly you would know that the "post break-up songs" all have very different views and the quality gap is purely your opinion. I personally find it better than most Ayumi albums as there's no songs that are just pure crap mixed in while some of her "fan favorite" albums are filled with those. Hello MY STORY and I am...! :innocent
And I do think having 5 songs of one genre stuck together in almost every case is boring. It's the reason I don't get that korean boygroup/girlgroups with tons of EPs hype. The songs are all of one genre and usually generic. The thing I like most about Ayumi musically is that her albums are not of one or two genres but instead basically have different influences or even completely different genres in every song even if they may repeat after an album.

And now it's just boiling down to opinion. My opinion is totally the opposite. MY STORY is my favorite Ayu album because I don't think any of the songs are "pure crap", while on the other hand I think about half of FIVE is "pure crap." (Also, even if I DID think MY STORY was half "crap," I would take an album of 8-9 good songs with 8-9 bad songs over a mini album of 3 good songs with 3 bad songs (counting Why... feat. Naoya here), but lol, that's not even the point.)

I don't really "get" pointing out fan favorite albums as examples of "bad Ayu works," but whatever. The point wasn't to get into a discussion about whether FIVE was a better or worse release; I was just trying to point out that if "HOPE" was the hidden message, it should have just been the title because then the release would have looked a lot better and more thought out.

^Nops, you are pointing again, that in your opinion FIVE stinks like dog poo, and that it doesn't have a concept because of it, as u did 10x on every thread about this release... We got it, Tom Punks, you hate FIVE, but this is not the discussion of this thread. BTW, I can't tell most of My Story songs from each other, together with Secret and Rock n Roll Circus IMO it's her less creative and most generic and boring effort yet...

I do find the HOPE thing to be curious, and bizarre enough to be true, but I'm with ThisisLOL here, not believing this is the case...

IMO the overall idea of this album is an open letter from Ayu to someone (her fans, IMO), telling how she is seeing her relationship with them (IMO, the lyrics make sense one after the other, as it was a whole piece of work)

What was said in WWD is just why the album was named FIVE. The hidden message is a different issue, so the stylized HOPE is still plausible! ^^

Um... No. The "discussion" of the album didn't even start until someone replied to me. All I said was "she should have named it HOPE so it wouldn't have been an incoherent and concept-less release, so I don't think hope was the hidden message." I don't know how you get "I hate FIVE and it stinks like dog poo and I'm trying to start another discussion about this so I can bash it some more" out of that.

What's the point of even responding to me when you're just going to say "YOU'RE DOING THIS AND THAT AND JUST WANT TO HATE ON THE ALBUM" when I just obviously tried to end THAT conversation because, as I just stated, it wasn't my intention to even bring it up in the first place.

But no. Of course, all I want to do is bring up how much I hate FIVE, and then just pretend I didn't want to do that so I can end the conversation, because that makes a lot of sense. Even though I haven't even posted here mentioning the album in two weeks.

Like... stop stalking my posts or something. I feel like I can't say anything without you being like "TOM PUNKS, WE KNOW YOU HATE FIVE."

I.
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CONVERSATION.
ABOUT.
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ALBUM.

"If you look at the title FIVE closely, you'll find a hidden word. So do check it out!"

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...38#post2759538

So, it's confirmed :P

So...

There's a hidden message in the title, FIVE is lyrically cohesive, and the it has a theme...

So far so good.

BTW, she also confirms this album is focused on people who are not part of her fanbase :P

Really, it's to be expected from Ayu, lol. There's always something there, and as much as it might be denied, there's always a reason for whatever she does when it comes to releases.

I know, and she even said there were multiple meanings for the title FIVE, it's up to the listener to draw their own conclusions but I guess some people don't want to do that lol.

yesss! I'm happy she said about it :ysmile

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...38#post2759538

She confirmed there's a hidden word in FIVE...

Oh that's cool if they did do that...then they probably spent a long time looking for the right font? lol

And she did say in Sweet that all the songs have hope in them. So the guy in first post probably got the hidden word right. ^^

Ayu designed it herself :P

wow didn't see the title in that manner. Good one

Oh, I just thought it was because she had five songs on the album haha

ummmm... it doesn't open, but if you mean new Sweet, then I saw it :laugh

That's cool! I was kind of thinking that the secret word was "Peace", but it's a bit of a stretch. The F is a P and E, the A between I and V, the C is the curve on the E, and the E is the...E. lol. But "Hope" seems to make more sense, given it's one of her target words lately.

That's cool actually! It makes sense to me. lol

cool if that's what it is :D

I always thought it was related to the word LOVE cos of the letter 'V'.
but the word HOPE could also really be possible!! Looks really cool~!

I think it's legit :D

ayu_19980408: 正真正銘、初めてFIVEが目の前に揃い、HOPEへと変わった今日。タイトルに秘めた答え。また、明日ね (*^^*)

^seems so =)