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A CLIP BOX 1998-2011 on DVD & Blu-ray (01.01.2012) ~III~
New thread!!!
Just watched M in HD and I must say that it does look a tad better then it's DVD counterpart. The audio is much more clear as well. Can't wait to watch more recent ones. *__* |
Yeah!!!!!!!!!
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I got it and I was shocked that most of PVs are upscaled even Love songs and Last angel *cry*. I think the real HD PVs are only FIVE PVs. (Not so sure because I have no time to compare all of them with DVD) Anyway, the package is super beautiful and this is my first Ayu's PV boxset since I'm not own the old one. I'm satisfied. :)
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even Love songs are upscale? hard to be believe....
avex is ##xx##xx |
omg even the love songs pv?? What a waste the blu-ray version is, people can just buy the dvd version and upscale them using a blu-ray player.
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I really wish people weren't uploading this. It's so expensive and we already have the PVs in DVD quality. If people really want the blu ray quality, they should buy it.
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It was waiting at home for me! So Happy :)
http://i43.tinypic.com/14vprmb.jpg About to have a look to see what the quality is like... I'll let you guys know my opinion. |
thats the cenario avex release Anation only in dvd since we alredy have it in Tv version 1080i for free, but even so always will be who buy it....
we have to complaim not the opposite |
How about the sales? And oricon chart about this released?
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When this was announced i was really angry because it was unnecessary/expensive.But i have noticed that this is really amazing,having all the PVs in blu-ray quality in a very gorgeous box and limited edition is amazing!!!luxurious,i feel really happy and proud to own this amazing collection. I called DHL,i'm getting next week :( but at least i'll have it in my shelf next week *O* Quote:
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^how nice for you.
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I'm glad that everyone who recieved their box are happy with them :D
Here's my lovely ♥ http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7413/12copyxk.jpg |
@yukito I support to upload,but i spent so much money on this and i don't think is fair that you get it for free.And this doesn't mean that i'm angry when you download it,on the contrary i'm happy because you have what you want.Is only that is not fair...
@title156 I didn't receive my box yet,but i'm happy.I'll have it next week ^_^ |
but if you think about it..is not the same whatching DVD discs (mpg2 compressed video) in your BR player...than this upscale but m2ts minimus compressed files
maybe you got not a clear HD file....but at least not a compressed file |
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It's funny though...people who are able to download a 125gb file (meaning they have the internet connection and hard drive space), should be able to afford the box if they really wanted to. lol |
^you're welcome ;) hahaha
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Well, I'm currently working through the box. Being honest all the PV's from the A Song for XX and Loveppears era look no better than the DVD counterparts. Even some of the dirt in the picture is still there.
Later PV's are a bit odd. Some look very good (is this LOVE?) almost as if they've been touched up (and are significantly better than the DVD's). Then PV's like fairyland look like an upscale again. It's obvious some of these videos were recorded on significantly better equipment than others. I'm adamant Green is in HD (Maybe not 1080i though). It looks a HUGE sight better than any of the DVD versions I own. The picture is much brighter and a lot more detail pops. The LOVE Story videos do look a bit soft, but again look very good (It'll sound funny but the detail on Mannie's beard is a lot more detailed) I'd say it's worth the upgrade if you are a huge Ayu fan and have expendable income as the picture quality of all the PV's are significantly better than the DVD's after the first 2 albums worth. I'd give the picture quality a 7/10. If anyone was expecting these to be 1080P and a 10/10 picture quality, they really are fooling themselves as music videos simply aren't recorded that way (nor the costs to fully upgrade them. You would be talking about a box set costing well over twice the price) One final note: The audio quality is much better as well on most PV's post- Whatever. Last Angel you can even hear the echoes in her foot steps in the parking garage. They've certainly made the audio top-notch. |
I made a screenshot comparison. You can see difference between DVD and BD.
DVD was upscaled in MPC-HC. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101231 |
One more screenshot comparison:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/101240 As you can see, BD picture is better than DVD! |
Why the F is my package still in Japan if it's supposed to be delivered tomorrow? I know there's still time for it to get here, but...smh
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So... it's fair, good, beautiful and magical download any album, DVD or leaked song even if it affects the sales. Who cares the sales? Let's spread leaked things! But it's sooooooo unfair, terrible and illuminatti download a compilation of videos which everybody already saw, but with a ~cuestionable~ marvellous quality and """""""exclusive and never seen footage""""""" only because is very expensive.....
AHS ~Hipocrisy is ALL~ xDD |
People don't seem to be saying that the fact downloading something like this boxset is illegal and does not support the artist. If everyone had that mentality, artists wouldn't release anything new as it would seem no one listened to the artist as they don't sale anything.
It's fair enough that you can't afford the box, but justifying it by using that as an excuse to download it is wrong in my opinion. If it's to sample something, that's okay in my opinion, but to download something with no intention of trialling it before making a purchase is not right. |
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They shouldn't be like this, they have their super awesome bag. |
^^that's not my problem at all. I'm an ayu collector, so I buy everything regardless. I spent $300 on all 4 versions of NEXT LEVEL. That's not the point.
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You guys are so SNIPPY! God damn.
Anyways. So, assuming from the posts that these aren't blu ray quality...it would be quite a waste to download them, if you already have HD versions, correct? Not that I was going to download them, but that seems like the logical conclusion to me. I really don't care if people upload it or not. I personally don't think it hurts sales at all. But that's just me. Anyways, I feel bad that even the recent PVs were upscaled...I dont understand why'd they do that. I figured they'd be shooting in HD for a while now :shrug Sorry to whoever might be displeased with the product. Oh, but elaniel's post seems to possibly make some sense~~ Thanks for that :) |
i don't hate you because you're a morning museum stan, you're a morning museum stan because i hate you
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Just to note I've watched Another Song and Why... and both seem to be in HD. Probably the two I can tell are definitely HD quality.
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What about BRILLANTE, progress and beloved? |
I haven't watched those ones yet, I will get to them over the weekend. (A lot of PV's to go through)
I may be wrong with Another Song and Why... though. They just look like a significant quality jump from the others. |
The only thing that hurts the sales are the overprized stuff and the stupid extras
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wow.. people are bashing each other so much. I download everything for backups and buy... if someone wants to take the time to upload stuff for others to enjoy how is that hurting you?
When I get the cash I will be buying this regardless of upscale crap. |
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And the 'overpriced' thing is typical for Japan. |
Can someone kindly post some photos of the booklet pages? I like to know how is it like really. Thanks so much!
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I haven't see this much drama since I watched Paris Hilton my new BFF...
Anyways for the people that are generous good for them, for the ones that just want to flaunt themselves because they buy every little thing godess ayu releases, well good for them too, I wish I could too, maybe someday, but for now I would like to enjoy this good quality release regardless of upscale or not until I'll be able to buy it. |
Did people seriously say that people who can't afford the box don't deserve to see the videos? Wow. New low for all of you.
Anyway, the box looks really nice..shame about that bag. Thinking of buying this later this year :) Thanks to everyone who uploaded photos of their purchase! |
People haven't said they don't DESERVE to view them from what I can tell. Just that it is effectively stealing by posting these up for download. Some people have a very strong opinion on illegal downloads. Especially those of us who work in the music/entertainment/film industry.
Look at the music industry in the US/UK. It's hurting because of all the illegal downloads, and it's certainly the same case in Japan since only two singles sold more than a million copies this year. As far as I'm saying in the matter, the people that spent their hard earned money have more of a right to have/view this collection as they supported the artist over someone that hasn't supported the artist by buying the release. Anyone else that views/downloads it should see it as a privilege to view this content as they have not contributed to the release of the product. If someone wants to view snippets for their opinion on how it looks before they decide on a purchase, that's fine. But for people who just want to download to have (and don't support the artist by purchasing the product), that will ruin the music industry. 90% of people that download illegally do so without the intention of paying for a product after sampling it. I'm NOT saying I'm not at fault either, as I do download if I'm unsure on an artist/release and listen/watch it first. If I enjoy it, I buy it. If I don't, I delete it. |
^ Well so do I, it just so happens I can't right now, but I want to at some point in my life, just for now I'll settle with this files. I bought every other thing from her, so it isn't such a big deal if I for once skip such a thing and wait to get a copy of this.
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For those that are interested, an overseas version is to be released on the 13th for almost 1/4 of the price of the Japan Version. DVD ONLY.
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Well that is interesting now if only they will release a blu-ray version.
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Actually, DVD version has been released in Taiwan today at only USD67 including shipping.
Here to buy: http://www.books.com.tw/exep/prod/dv...tem=D020042049 But only 1000 boxes will be available and there won't be a reprint once sold out. The number is going down fast! |
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if the person who feels that by uploading the entire rip is going to hurt the sale, where is he when a new album is released? isnt that much more damage than a blu ray collection (which imo is targeted at hardcore fans) and I assume if people are interested will have already preordered the limited editions. FYI, i've left out the menu so it's nt really a full rip of the release. if he is just being annoyed bcos that he paid a huge amt of $ and others got it free and ahead of him, then I'm annoyed too! Did u know it's not a 10Mb or 100Mb file I'm sharing? if u're not interested, just dont look into the thread. |
Yes, I know it's DVD. I just thought everyone saw previously in the part II thread that Avex Taiwan have already said they're not releasing a Blu-Ray box.
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I said that it wasn't fair to download THAT because:
-We spent many,many money on it. -Is not the same price as a single/album (I support to download this if you can't buy it) -You already have all her PVs in their respective single/album. Anyway,as i said,i support to download this if you can't buy it.But some people just said negative things about this(upscaled,blah,blah,blah) and now they're downloading. $$$ |
^In that case I completely agree, for those who whined about it.
Any ways I won't say another word about it because I was able to find another way around it. |
I don't agree :laugh
I still downloaded FIVE and that album was awful. And I knew, before I even downloaded it too. And I'll just say, $50, might as well be $500 for me, cause I don't have either. I honestly don't think that illegal downloading really has any effects at our level. I know people disagree on the moral principle, but tbh, moral principles don't really mean anything. If you don't want to share, then don't share :shrug But I dont think it's right to judge anyone else, in anything. imo, illegal downloading was an inevitable consequence of the industry's inability to recognize peoples' laziness, and properly take advantage of the internet. When I was on Spotify, I didn't illegally download anything. And the future of the industry is going that way. And they're just going to have to deal with the fact that they aren't going to be making as much money from a product. The industry also, seems to be hurting in all the wrong places. Just like the PC gaming industry. People are going to have to make changes, and they are going to fight tooth and nail, to keep their money. And they are going to rely oh so heavily on this idea of "stealing" from people and moral principles to do it. Why did come back here...omg...lol sorry. |
All i can say is that I AM THANKFUL TO EVERY SINGLE
ONE OF YOU PEOPLE who is MORE THEN GENEROUS to share this release with us less fortunate ones. I saw the Hong Kong Version but i recently pre-ordered Final Fantasy XIII-2 from Zavvi.com so i cannot afford it atm. And to be honest THIS IS MY FIRST foray into buying and preordering things on line XD |
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And i understand the frustration of some people here, you spend your hard earned hundreds dollars on something and other just wait at home to download it for free. But face it, not everybody has that much money, most of us here don't live in Japan, 300$ maybe not much in Japan but in our countries it's huge money. And i don't think sharing the Complete Clip Box here would affect the sales at all. Not everybody will have the time and/or data quota to download all 4 BRD (which is 124GB). |
I dont know if its been posted yet but the Hong Kong DVD Ver. now up for pre-order on yesasia
http://www.yesasia.com/global/a-clip...0-en/info.html for US$73.25 |
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What's everyones favourite PV from this box? (Audio, video wise). I think is this LOVE?? looks absolutely phenomenal. |
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^I support to buy music,I bought music.Almost all my money is destined to music(specially Ayu).And the correct thing is:if you like the music one artist does,you must support.Agree with you.But there are some people who need the money for other priority things~
I don't want to talk about this anymore |
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here's a cap http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1...0106195109.jpg |
so sad that JEWEL is upscaled, imagine those beautiful scenes with crystal clear quality lol
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There's multiple areas of proof that illegal downloading hurts every part of the industry significantly. When you have seen like I have people lose their jobs because of illegal downloads, maybe you'll have a more mature and adult view on the situation. In 10 years when hardly any record companies/film companies are around, this is the reason why. Illegal downloads devalues a product to the point where people seem to think the product is worth nothing. Look at the anime industry as well, that's hurting extremely hard (especially in the USA) due to fansubbing/illegal downloads. I did notice that sparkle looked very good last night, however I was so tired after watching so much that I think I stopped focusing on the image quality and just on the music instead. |
This shyte better be waiting for me when I get home. lol
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My Clip Box is out for delivery right now! I should get it soon!!!
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^^same here!
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I'm stunned that the Hong Kong ver. is so much more cheaper than the original version. :O
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I actually got my Clip Box about ten minute after my last post! |
They can release a cheaper overseas version on DVD because the DVDs will be region 3 locked (almost all DVDs in Japan are region 2). With Blu-ray, Japan and Hong Kong are in the same region and that's why there won't be a Blu-ray release outside of Japan. People in Japan could import the cheaper HK version for 1/3 of the price and not need to worry about region coding. It's the same reason I don't see overseas versions of her concerts coming out on Blu-ray, at least not for a while.
As for illegal downloading, it isn't okay to steal something because you can't afford it. People will do it anyway because they can and they won't get caught, but that's the bottom line. Personally, I saved my money, foregoing a lot of Black Friday deals and Christmas shopping and even selling off a few items so I could afford it (my copy is with the DHL courier now). Someone said they couldn't buy it because they wanted to preorder a Final Fantasy game; if I told you I had downloaded that game for free you might see where I'm coming from. At any rate, I'm not sure I would have purchased this on Blu-ray had I known most of the videos were going to be upscaled, and a much cheaper overseas version was going to be released on DVD (I have a region free player that does a nice job of upscaling SD material). I'm also not impressed by what I've seen of the packaging or the bag. By the time the early reviews were in, my copy from Amazon was already "Shipping Soon". At this point I'm just hoping I won't be too disappointed. By the way, I just found this forum when I was searching for some reviews of the box set, so hello. ;) |
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Idk... I think I prefer to buy 6 or 7 old singles I don't have, but this is like a 'collector thing' D: I still don't know what I want T___T ... About Piracy... I don't like it, but I don't hate those people who can't buy original things... Obviously I download ayu's singles, albums, PVs, everything you upload here, but I try to buy it too... If someone can't afford original stuff I don't care if they download it (Even if I can, I try to rip my owns DVDs to upload them to my blog), one thing is sure: Artists will always have fans who can buy every single thing they release... |
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It's only stealing when otherwise the people would get the money, however if you copy it because you cannot afford it noone would get money otherwise -> no stealing. If you download it though you can afford it it can be defined as stealing. Downloading something because you cannot afford to buy it does not hurt anyone. I don't support piracy as a practice overall, overall it DOES harm the industry, but I think we do have to look at which acts actually do damage and which don't. Is the overseas DVD playable on european DVD-players? If so I might get that one. 60€ is affordable to me and a fair price and it being bluray isn't all that important to me, I just want all of her PVs and CMs in physical form(right now I only have around 1/3 of her PVs) |
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Just because you can not afford something does not make it right to "copy" something. |
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If you steal a physical copy of something it is gone, the person you take it from loses something. It's stealing if you get it while someone else loses it(may it the physical copy or money). When downloading you get a copy, the owner of the original(avex in this case) only loses something if you otherwise would have bought it, however if you don't have enough money you wouldn't have bought it -> aves doesn't lose anything -> you do not steal. You copy. It's obviously not legal but calling it stealing is plain wrong. Nobody is hurt in that scenario, nobody loses anything. That said, like I pointed out in my original post, I do NOT support piracy overall. I do not support it if you do it because you don't want to pay. I support it if you don't have enough money to pay since no one is harmed that way. Someone earning a few hundred dollars a month while having to pay rent and stuff can't easily afford the clip box, he would NOT buy it either way, him downloading it would not be stealing and it would not harm anyone. While someone with a well-paid job who has enough money and simply doesn't want to pay if he can download it for free does steal since he otherwise(if downloading was not possible) would have probably bought it. That's the difference. If someone loses something(be it the physical copy or money) it is stealing. However that is not always the case for downloading and that's the important thing about it. There is no logical argument that something harming noone is immoral. Unfortunately big parts of our society are ****ed up enough from centuries of religion to believe that things that do not harm anyone can be "wrong" by default without thinking about it themselves. |
Please stop talking about the illegal downloads.
I made a thread especially for this http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=112356 The HK version of this DVD BOX is much more cheaper than (for example) alan's latest concert on DVD, lol. I hope in the future they can do Blu-ray versions. |
I think what "isthisLOL?" is saying is that no one gets hurt when the person doing the copying wouldn't have bought it anyway. I'll admit copying something is a bit different from stealing a physical copy (like a CD). What it is is intellectual property theft. Once someone has a copy of something, there is less of a need (with the exception of collectors) for that person to obtain a legally purchased copy. The IP on the disc is devalued.
Someone earlier in the thread brought up the anime industry, which has now shrunk to practically nothing in the U.S. because so many fans moved to free downloads. You can say anime was too expensive, you can say the companies were too slow to react to a changing market, but you can't say it didn't have a pretty major impact. ANYWAY, my blu-ray box arrived today, so I look forward to checking it out this weekend! I didn't buy the previous clip collection or her more recent CD releases so this wasn't an unnecessary double dip for me. Also, for the person who asked, the overseas version DVD will probably not be playable in a European player unless the player is region-free and can handle NTSC video. The DVD will be region 3 locked. |
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sooo what is the best looking PV on blu ray pre FIVE??
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I loved watching all the TV-CM, there were at least 10 I've never seen before, and the quality is quite good, now just waiting for the PVs.
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Man, enough with the steal/copying stuff... blah.
Honestly. Avex barely put any money or time into this... it really is something for the fans. PV's/music videos/what ever you want to call them are almost free domain. What is the difference from catching one of the videos on MTV or whatever the japanese watch to get their music fix and DVDr'ing it and keeping or watching it on YouTube to downloading it for your own personal collection? Nothing... its just another way to get the "info" that you want Blah... anyways... i watch poker face and some of the other videos in HD and they look pretty good... cant wait to watch some of the newer ones. Personal I hope the ones with "great" computer graphics looks amazing! |
To the above poster, by downloading it, you're breaking copyright.
Anyway, I definitely think Sparkle, Mirrorcle World, Pride, Green all look amazing. |
^ Actually no.
You have to know your copyright laws... In most countries it is not illegal to download, but illegal to redistribute for profit. In fact if you live in Canada, Spain, Panama, or the Netherlands you can download any music as long as it is not sold in that country. As for Japan... artistic works located in public places can be reproduced freely by photograph, film, etc... which is not very limited and can include PV's/Music videos. So in fact download music video's and PV's is legal... may not be moral or support the artist, but the PV is just that, a promotion video and nothing more. It is meant to promote something, not meant to make money for someone. As for the videos.. Got to watch Evolution, LOVE it. Born to Be and Last Angel. |
What TeamAyu2004 said.
Also, "you break a law" is never a valid argument since laws can be immoral or simply not logical, too. There's countries with laws that literally end up killing people with no moral or logical reason, but it's their laws. No argument. |
But there is a thread for this subject and it should be moved there. People just need to know the facts about copyright before they start throwing it around like they know something...
But besides that, while everyone who downloads music got told to go to hell, I watched the rest of Love Songs PV's... they were blah... I'm totally convinced the more PV's I watch by Ayu the more I dislike them, lol.. I don't know why... I guess after, what like 200 different videos, you start to run out of ideas and they seem to bleed into one another.. lol |
To the above poster, I'm stating what is law in a lot of countries, there is no need to make your comments personal to me (implying I know nothing). I was stating it to you due to me seeing you are from Orlando, which (unless I'm mistaking it for another one) is in the USA, where what I said was correct. (Not talking about it anymore, promise!)
I want to apologise. I never intend to pick on people, or try and make my opinions fact, I apologize if I have offended anyone. Just where I work, downloads really hurt us, and I somewhat take things personal as I've seen how much it hurts our business. Can we all have a great big TeamAyu hug?! :) Been really enjoying this box, I just hope in the future Ayu's albums/singles come in CD&Blu-Ray format. |
^ Holy crap! I didn't even think about that...
But thats just another cover to add to the list! CD version CD+ DVD version and now.... CD+ Blu-Ray version! Ah! everything that you have to buy! |
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Anyways, I watched a few of the PVs now, the quality of the upscales is ok, I might end up getting the overseas version of the DVD just so I'll have the pretty box and all the PVs in one set instead of split over my albums and singles. |
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what's the reason to make CD+Blu-Ray
it may be just blu-ray as Five |
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