The real CDs sales according to Avex
 

Sorry to open a new thread for that but yesterday i looked at the avex website and i have found differents files who contains the sales of the main contributors of fiscale year and i don't know if you have allready seen that but i let this numbers lol (it's the sales not the total shipping )

"I am …” album sold 3.14 million Cds" according to Oricon 2 308 111 copies O_o

"“Dearest” sold 870,000 Cds" according to Oricon 750 420 copies

"Endless sorrow”sold 840,000 Cds" according to Oricon 768 510 copies

"700,000 copies of her single “UNITE!”" --> 571 110 Cds

A best 4,510,000 Cds -->4 301 000 Cds

rainbow 2,020,000 CDs --> 1 857 870 Cds

"A BALLADS” (album) 1,710,000--> 1 040 000 copies

Ayumi Hamasaki “Memorial address” (album) 1,220,000 -->1 062 297 Cds

No way to say” sold 460,000--> 371 200 Cds

Ayumi Hamasaki “INSPIRE” 420,000-->329 145 Cds

Ayumi Hamasaki “CAROLS” 380,000-->309 128 Cds

my story 1,220,000-->1 132 444 Cds

“STEP you / is this LOVE?　403,000 copies-->345 340 Cds

“fairyland” 388,000 copies -->316 663 Cds

“(miss)understood” 1,030,000 copies -->877 433 Cds

Glitter/Fated” by Ayumi Hamasaki 244,000 copies-->166 203 Cds

Ayumi Hamasaki, “Secret” 804,000 copies-->675 400 Cds

Ayumi Hamasaki, “A BEST 2 –BLACK-” 918,000 copies-->721 850 Cds
Ayumi Hamasaki, “A BEST 2 –WHITE-” 915,000 copies-->702 900 Cds

“BLUE BIRD” by Ayumi Hamasaki 322,000 copies-->258 566 Cds

GUILTY” by Ayumi Hamasaki 678,000 copies-->568 288 Cds

Mirrorcle World by Ayumi hamasaki 256,000 copies-->193 016 Copies

A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ by Ayumi hamasaki 973,000copies--> 852 000 Cds

Rock ‘n’ Roll Circus (AL) by ayumi hamasaki (368,000 copies)--> 320 300 Cds

Love Songs by ayumi hamasaki (315,000 copies)-->272 653 Cds

ayumi hamasaki FIVE 250,000 copies-->214 182 Cds

Copies sold in Asia, copies sold after the album drops off the Oricon etc...

I don't think this counts Asia sales... I remember reading some article about A Best (and Distance, it focused on the Ayu vs Hikki thing) and the A Best Asia sales reported was a lot more than the official Oricon sales...

Hmm true, some of the differences are too low.

The differences in all of them are so fricking big! WTF

avex's figures are based on copies of the album that were shipped, IIRC...not necessarily copies sold, which is what Oricon keeps track of.

and what about NEXT LEVEL?

No on the website it's well said that it's the copies sold lol nothing about next level though ...

Avex sold them, but to stores, not to individuals. What Oricon tracks are sales by stores to individuals. Some of those are in stores but were never sold from there, meaning they are in avex's numbers but not "real" sales.

But avex count the sales after top 300 and also envents not Oricon (just 30%)

damn oricon >_<
Thanks for the info

thanks! thats interesting

Oricon counts international sales, right?

Oricon count most of Japan's stores/sites orders as long as it's in Japan.

avex's numbers are shipped copies sales though it's wierd that FIVE isn't certified platinum.

NEXT LEVEL disappears LOL

Those are most likely the numbers of copies shipped.

avex also counts concert venues sales? right?

Record labels are notorious for inflating record sales so take with a pinch of salt.

Of course ORICON is extremely flawed for a variety of reasons. Does not take into account digital sales, does not take into account sales if it's not in the chart etc...

daaang look at the A Ballads difference.
"A BALLADS” (album) 1,710,000--> 1 040 000 copies

^ clearly stores expected it to sell better than it did. For that time those sales for a best album are very very low.

I dont know what numbers to believe in but these definitely look nice

wow very surprise with the result from Avex. I am... sold nearly 1 million more than what Oricon reported and A BALLADS 700K

This is because some shops' sales don't count towards ORICON even though they still sell albums, singles, etc?


Yep, ORICON is mediocre and useless :laugh



EDIT: And not to even mention all the sales that are missing from the concert venues, since ORICON only counts a percentage of them? I still think this is not fair for anybody, if they think the companies are trying to boost their artists' sales (which is fair enough I think), couldn't they have people there making sure they aren't cheating and getting dodgy numbers? The percentage thing is just ****ing stupid, I hate it.

I'm surprised that A Complete hasn't reached million yet!@@!

A BALLADS isn't a best of album, it was a compilation/concept album (like Shimatani's "crossover") with some tracks remixed/re-arranged, so I don't think it falls into the same category as A BEST.

Which albums kept I am... and Duty from topping the year-end rank?

Deep river and Delicious way, respectively!
Utada outsold I am... total sales in its first week!@@!

For example, if I remember correctly, YesAsia doesnt count toward Oricon.

I think they do now but before they didn't :)

crazy how sales were back then.


anyway, ORICON is always stupid. Even their polls suck. I think they've just been outdated for a while...

just like the global music industry though tbh. Guess we can't really blame them.

Not right, YesAsia does count toward Oricon ::

http://www.yesasia.com/global/custom...on-answer.html

That was not always the case.

Seeing those high sales, I'm feeling...nostalgic.

Damn it, Utada...
Give the other artists a chance. She shows no mercy!

DEEP RIVER was a great album and deserved more sales than Distance, in my opinion. I'm just going to assume Ayu outsold the third highest selling album of that year by a large amount of copies. Do correct me if I'm wrong to think that.

"I am …” album sold 3.14 million Cds"
"FIVE" 250,000 copies

Awww :(

But now i think the only important thing for her is that us, the fan base we're always here to support her ~
Maybe now she don't care about the number of cds she sold...

This is awesome! I like seeing (m)u over 1,000,000!

For the difference in older releases, you guys should keep in mind that Oricon chart had only up to 100 position untill 2003, when it was extended to 200 and 300. And what if Ayu's releases sold only 1500 copies a week, which surely won't get a position in top 100, but sold steadily for one year... it would make at least 75,000 copies difference.

Wow, seeing Ayu's album sale hit +4 or +3 million is just nostalgic...what a great year back then.

I heard Oricon only counts the CD sales in big retail stores, e.g. HMV, Tower Record, but ignores the small retail stores in Japan.

woooww that's huge difference :thud

From 3.000.000 copies to 300.000... OMG

Anyway it's absurd the difference between Avex datas and Oricon's

This is definitely interesting information! Wow, thanks for sharing.

Whoa, A BALLADS actually sold 700,000 more copies.
That's 700,000 more angsty people :P