14th album 'LOVE again' out February 8th, 4th of five 15th anniversary releases [III]
 

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14th NEW ALBUM『LOVE again』 tracklist & covers!
14th album 'LOVE again' out February 8th, 4th of five 15th anniversary releases [II]

important points from the previous thread in case anyone would like to catch up.

^ lol

^don't laugh at me.

it just funny to see all those quotes and then you saying, catch up.
you meant it one way, but I took it another way... almost like a slap in the face.

I know this is gonna cause some flames and what not, but i believe in order to be a supporting FAN you need to buy her releases... not every version or something, but you have to spend money and support her.
Other wise you are just a free loader.

From other thread:

$40 is a lot of money for some people, especially considering it was leading up to Christmas...and imo, I don't think a 'real' fan is one that buys every single release and is blind to whatever mistakes the artist (or their marketing team) makes.

^ This is exactly how these releases should've been handled.
Also, no re-release of You & Me.

and who exactly said that? It's like people didn't read my post or are too incompetent to understand my point. Also, being a true mean DOES mean supporting your artist, at least every now and then. Not necessarily buying every version of every release.

I hate the mindset of "OH I didn't buy LOVE or again so I'm glad they're on LOVE again" because it's STILL RECYCLED TRACKS. Also singles being called mini-albums to jack up the price.

It's true though...if you can't see this obvious greedy tactic, there is something wrong.

I'm not as pissed as I thought I would be. My heart sank a little bit, but I kind of expected that Avex would include LOVE and again, and then call it LOVE again. *facepalm*

I'll just pretend 'LOVE' and 'again' were singles, then I'll be at peace.

troll troll troll troll it again.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3...6smro3_250.gif
*excuse me while i'm walking pass all the disaster here*

you know me better than that! lol i'll change it.

LOL u gaiz r just 2 poor 2 buy dem so ur mad.

effing hilarious.

not me yo!

just noticed that they're already have bigger cover and i'm in love with cd+blu-ray. aww heart nails. might get this one (If this edition release in my country)

this is exactly it. it made no sense in releasing the mini albums at all.
I feel bad for those who bought all versions.

I know, bb. Youre beautiful and dirty rich!

Seriously though, some people... if Ayu sold her doggie's crap in a box they'd totally buy it and acusse you of being a hater/poor/baby/Namie Stan if you didn't.

Good idea! I hate when a thread ends during a conversation and the last comments get lost.

I do find it ridiculous this has been marketed as "for the fans" and then they pull this crap. Does anyone else find that ironic? Maybe they meant, "for the fans' (money)"

^ Well, it IS Avex :P

I don't think anyone has a right to tell someone to be mad or not to be mad at this. If you don't mind spending out more for the album that is fine, but also understand why people are angry with it. 'LOVE' and 'Again' were marketed as 'mini-albums', not singles, and they were marketed to have 5 mini-albums over 5 months, giving people the perception that all albums would be with new content, and not recycled from the previous mini-albums. Avex let people believe that 'LOVE' and 'Again' are albums of their own and would not be recycled, because they knew if they announced them as singles or that there would be an album in February, they would not sell as well, because some people like myself can't afford to buy songs twice, and prefer to wait for the album with all songs on it instead of buying the singles. That doesn't make us all bad fans, it just means our money sometimes has to be spent elsewhere then on singles and different versions of those singles. XD

I still love Ayu, and yes sometimes it gets annoying to see people complain about her releases all the time, but try to understand logically why people are annoyed at this release in particular. I personally believe Avex did pull a sneaking marketing trick on people for this one, and while I have NEVER been disappointed from a previous Ayu release, I am disappointed about this one.

for the fans? yeah right. for the profits is more like it.

:roflmao

They never said this ... It's just the fans who made hasty conclusions !

Actually wondering now if "LOVE again" is happening because of "again"'s poor sales.
Would they have just released a 3rd mini if the previous 2 had sold well?

Edit: something else that makes me think this...did anyone really expect an album to be the Feb release?

This was never stated and obviously isn't true. Hello, A CLASSICAL.

I thought about all of this this morning...

Perhaps this should have been a CD-only with new songs (since we're not getting any new videos for whatever reason). If February was to follow the same pattern, THEN a single blu-ray with these "8th Day Releases" should have been released...probably in April or whatever.

I think this whole release business was a mess. It's nice that Avex/Ayu are celebrating Ayu's career, but I mean... even the article ("The 8th Day is Ayu Day") just hinted at the uncertainty of the releases, and that there would be many surprises.

idk, I'm still excited about this (just for the freakin' blu-ray lmao) and I'm still ordering it tomorrow. If you don't like it, get the CD-only just for the new songs or if you want that serial number. Or don't; being an Ayu fan doens't necessarily mean getting every release.

^I agree. A simple CD and CD+Goods would have sufficed, and probably lessened the blow

If the point of these releases weren't about sales numbers, then a third mini-album with just the new songs would've been enough for me.

I'm glad I didn't buy 'again' yet. I'm going to get the CD only version of 'again' and CD+DVD of 'LOVE again'.

I don't even know what your talking about since I never read your post. I'm just saying something about people in general. Just like you can be a fan of an actor without ever going to the movie theaters to see there movie, you just wait for it to come on TV. Theres no such thing as a "true fan"...

^there most certainly is. at least different levels of fandom. If you are a big big fan, you would obviously want to support your favorite artist by buying their releases.

^ I also dont think you can have a 'true' fan because you either are a fan or you are not.
better terms are 'supporting' and 'free loading.' lol (joking somewhat)

I dont think anyone ever said 5 mini albums in five months.
it was alwasy supposed to be 5 months of new music...
and now clearly its no longer the case... although feb still has new music, it is also reusing music... sadly.

NOW... i wish we would have some album mixes... that would make me feel good about this release.

I'd be fine with tracks from LOVE and again been used if we had new versions or arrangements!

I suppose you worded that accurately.

I NEED AYU TRANCE 5

I just don't see it that way, sorry. I just don't see the correlation between being releases and being a true fan. When I think of "supporting an artist", I think of sticking buy an artist through the good and the bad where it's there personal or professional life.

Also because I know a lot of people that are die-hard fans of artist but don't own any of there releases, because they just can't afford them or just have more important things to buy and I don't think that makes them any less a "true fan" than people who do buy releases.

Yes this is also what I mean.

The good thing about this album is

1. The covers.

2. The album will sell more than PARTY QUEEN. Why? Because the album shot up to the top 10 on Japan's Amazon. I didn't see that for LOVE and AGAIN. Looks like fans that didn't buy the previous albums (A SUMMER BEST, LOVE, and AGAIN) will be buying this purchase. I'm sure a lot of fans were waiting for all the songs to be patched into an album to finally make a purchase. I suspect this album will sell at least 200,000 copies.

It's one thing if you can't afford it, but I just believe if you really love an artist you would want to support them and own their releases, not just steal them from the internet.

I agree with you.
The love for an artist can't be measure by the spent money or the financial support.

Kinda surprised but it makes sense. I know when I was pissed off yesterday I said I wanted it to flop and I doubt it'd sell 100k, but now I've calmed down I can say it'd be nice for her sales to improve on an album for a change.
To be fair to Ayu, all the tracks from LOVE and again are pretty high quality (bar Ivy for me haha). I'm expecting the new songs to blow me away. :)

(I also hope for at least one experimental track on LOVE again, like how we had the jazz on PQ)

I certainly hope you're right!

^^^^
It depend also if you are a collector and like to have things physically or just don't care and prefer to download legally ! Buy a Japanese CDs when you are foreigner is very expensive I think people have others priorities ! For exemple I'm a die hard fan of Nana Mizuki & Ayu and I would like buy all their CDs but I just can't because I've others things more essential ^^

Ayu will live and I will keep enjoying her music and being a huge fan of her without buying her releases. I own like 1 CD with a photobook lol. Not any less of a fan.

I wonder what the 5th release will be now lol

So people are mad and disappointed still because the mini-albums weren't called or priced as singles. Okay. I get that. I just have trouble caring as much as I empathize.

Like idk. This is just how the release is. More to life than this.

Has ayu replied to the various complaints and suggestions that people seemed to have sent in an effort to be real?

Edit: it'd be nice to see sales go up if that's even possible

Yea I'm sure there are tons of people that would love to have BOOKSHELVES of there favorite artists' releases. But they just can't. Of course there are people that want to "support" there favorite artist...but they just can't.

But they have every right to complain about a release just as much as the next person whether they're buying it or not. You can still criticize...nothing is wrong with that. Why do people have to say "ugh the people who are complaining are just the the whiny people who don't buy releases....aren't true fans...download illegally.." makes no difference.

Also I think you show more support by not buying something that's release because you expect a better quality of product to be released from your favorite artist and that shows them "Oh I can't just go around releasing any type of crap I want to, i have to put some actual thought into this." (well I mean they CAN release any crap they want, but that does not necessarily mean anyone will buy it just because there name is on it...)

I really dont think we should get into what makes a fan and such because its just gonna piss people off.

everyone here is pretty much a fan... its if you are a supporting fan or not.
You can say you support her, but the ONLY way to support her is to spend your money on her.
there is no other way around it... if you dont buy her products, then you dont support her because she is a product, and if you support a product, you buy it.

i can't stand the fact that she realesed/realesing 3 albums with word LOVE in it.

I'm gonna throw up one day.

^I agree about all the LOVE titles. LOVEppears I don't mind though

I'd like to say ayu is a person too. Because I'm sure science defines her as such. You can also call her a product. But because she is also a person, there is more than one way to support a person.

^
:yes

Ayumi Hamasaki is a person.
Ayu is a product. If you dont support the product you dont support the person.
It has nothing to do with science or her being a human being.
You can support the person, but musically you can not support her if you dont spend money on her.

Agree. Just by tweet/write a letter to her with encouraged words is a way to support her & to show her your love and your interest for her music

I suppose we're getting OT now, so we should get back to discussion about the album.

Anyone else think the titles seem...idk, hollow?

This is a contradiction, you realize that right?

This mindset and mentality that if you don't spend your money buying a singer's releases, then you're not a fan - is really disgusting. The people who say that probably aren't living paycheck to paycheck and probably never have. To spend $40 on a release that you may not even like for the sake of "being a fan" at the expense of not being able to feed yourself or your family for the week is simply called being irresponsible with your money. Possibly selfish, too. And there are priorities in life. Feeding yourself and paying your bills comes first.

And you can argue that they should at least buy one CD in their lifetime. But maybe they've never in their lifetime been able to afford that one CD. If you think that's not possible or likely, again - you're probably that person who fits in the 'never lived paycheck to paycheck' category. Try to look outside of your own lifestyle or acknowledge that you can't understand what it's like.

I wonder how these types of people feel about people who have bought every single Ayu CD and DVD but bought them online for cheap - like, $4 cheap - because they couldn't afford to do so otherwise. Are they 'cheapskate' fans? 'Second hand' fans? Not 'true' fans? Tell me. Because that's what I've done.

Question: Has Avex or Ayu said anything about this whiplash from the announcement?

^It's not a contradiction, as people who can't afford to buy them are excused. It's just the way I feel about it.

Of course they're not cheap, or second-hand, or not true fans. I lived paycheck to paycheck for years, and still kind of do because I spoil myself constantly. I never said not purchasing things means you aren't a fan. But I think if you are a real, die-hard fan, you would WANT to own something, that's all.

I'm very curious about "GLORIA". I wonder what that name means to her...if anything.

I dont think the individual titles are hollow, but the CD title is..
Love again?... I mean come on...

this is way i stay away from true fans and what not... you are either a FAN or you are not. it's the support and how you show support.

You can write ayumi a nice little letter and what not, but that dose nothing to her but maybe make her feel nice... It's like buying a starving diabetic a huge piece of chocolate...well its the thought that counts right? not really.
If it wasn't for people actually buying things we might not even be here to talk about it today.

I don't think it's necessarily "hollow", just very unoriginal.

This is true last year i couldn't afford a lot things ayu release and that didn't make me any less of a fan. Now that im doing better i can afford it. But not having money to pay for a CD doesn't mean you don't love Ayumi is just that you don't have the money to buy but you still love her. That's what got me mad about the minis a lot of people where lied too people who probably wasted there money. Money that is really hard to get for some people.

I feel that there's a contradiction in there. But that's okay.

Basically I can support her without buying things. It's great.

On another note, even if people do have money to buy cds, they could choose to spend it on something else.

^ but you cant.
In order for her to continue making music, people need to buy things...

I honestly dont know if there is much of a difference, lol

You & Me shouldn't be there. It's so awful.

I hope we can get previews soon, i'm sure they could calm some fans here, XD

sigh. GLORIA just reminds me of this. lol

@TA 2004: Nah...I'm not even talking about her being able to continue making music. Just supporting her. Which I can do. But I see your train of thought. I just fail to think it makes sense.

I'm actually glad You & Me is on here. I've come to like it more over time though I already liked it when it first came out anyway. Even though it's like, not summer, I've still been able to enjoy it.

@adantatu: yes please lol :)

the sad part is that you wouldn't even know her if it wasn't for her music and you dont feel the need to support her by buying the product. That's what im getting from people who say they dont need to buy her music. Ayumi just cares about people and doesnt need people to buy her stuff. Bull. She needs it just as much as people need to work to survive. Guess what people, this is her working.
It would be no different if everyone in here were to go to work and not get paid for what they did.
How would people feel about that?

on a brighter note.

we should actually be getting previews for A classical sometime next week!!
ME so happy!!

okay so what does it make of someone like me who never bought anything? because i just simply can't? And i am not sure if i ever will be able to? like how do you people who are saying all this would call a person like me then?

it's kinda not nice reading all that as being one of those people who just simply can't buy anything...it actually just makes me want to leave the fandom....

but ANYWAY...

i know people hate Melody, but i am actually GLAD it's gettign a PV since it's my fave on LOVE.

In other news, the album covers are really cute. Granted, they remind me a bit of Love songs; but still kayute.

I'm excited for previews as well! I can't wait to know what the 5th release is going to be!

I don't have to buy her CDs as the only way to support her...it's a simple idea. No one is saying they don't want to support her financially. But not everyone can and so some are happier with knowing they can provide moral support or something of the sort.

I feel like the covers are lovely, but no one cares because of all the surrounding drama lol

They really are cute though, like my favorites of this series of releases.

DEFINITELY reminds me of Love songs, but I love those covers, so it's great.

^ I love those covers as well...
and it might have been lost in all the garbage, but its the same guy that did the covers.

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss:yes

I'm spending so much money this month on back releases that I don't own yet. Upgrading ALL my OS CDs to Japan press. I'm freaking insane.

Also, never spent 1 cent on Ayu as I don't like physical releases, I don't like having piles and piles of stuff just for the sake of having it, and I have other priorities for my money, but a lot of people who like her because I introduced her to them did. You can even help her getting richer without spending money.

I'm so annoyed and pissed of by the people here saying "if you don't buy her CDs, you are not a true fan". That's simply not fair to all the people who want to own Ayu's CDs as much as every other fan but can't afford them.
In general some members in this forum seem to love to tell other fans again and again how much they spend on Ayu's releases and that they always buy all of the versions available. It's one thing to make one post telling what you buyed, but it doesn't have to be 10+ posts. That way it just seems as if you somehow need to show what a true, diehard fan you are and therefore better as all other fans.
Nice to see that here are a lot of privileged people who have enough money to buy whatever they want, but it would also be nice if those people realise that they belong to the privileged ones.

And to the point that "you need to buy her CDs, otherwise she wouldn't be famous anymore": Ayu got famous overseas because of illegal downloads, people would have never heard about her or cared about her without downloading from the internet. And being successful as an artist isn't only about sales, most money comes from concerts and Ayu's tours are pretty big every year. She and avex make way more money when all the people visiting her concerts actually pay for a ticket instead of a CD.
I still remember the big J-Rock/Visual Kei boom here and a lot of Visual Kei bands were able to hold concert tours in Europe only because their fans download their music illegal. From my experience all bands were surprised and very happy to have fans in Europe. Those bands of course know that they don't sell anything here because their CDs aren't available in Europe. But they wanted to tour here nonetheless, just because of the fans. L'Arc~en~Ciel was even able to sell out two big arenas in London and Paris (and I guess they made a good amount of money).


Point is, even when you can't afford buying CDs of your favourite artists you are as much a fan as everyone else. There are a lot of ways showing support, not only buying CDs.

People are miscontruing my point. Not buying releases =/= not being a true fan.

What is a fan? Someone who enjoys the material an artist puts out? Their personality, something about them, etc.? Regardless, they are a business, a product. If people didn't buy her releases, she wouldn't be anywhere near where she is today. It doesn't make you more or less of a fan if you buy or don't buy releases. Personally I take pride in the fact that I own everything and every version, because that's my choice. I just don't understand the mindset of people who don't WANT to own anything despite being a fan. It's just a little weird.

PS Chibi-chan yes I brag and I'm gonna keep doing so because I'm proud and excited and blessed that I'm in a position to do so. Oh well

Whenever I come to LOVE again threads, it seems to me that I've been reading the same page for 30 hours.

^because *****es just be going back and forth.

APPLAUSE.

This conversation is ridiculous, as usually here in AHS :rolleyes

^wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

the covers should've had two hot naked guys making out.

LOL man im so happy i didnt buy LOVE and again... this actually makes me want to buy the album. i dont think people know how excited i am to hear kunio tago is producing. i wonder if well ever hear CREA again though..

Look at all my playbuttons!! It upsets me that I can't order the LOVE again playbutton!! smh


...OK OK, I'll stop being obnoxious now.

I do really want that LOVE again play button though.

If this would have been the case I would also buy every version. :laugh

^^
:love

would've fixed the tracklist for sure xD

Should've been Ayu, Kuu and Namie on a bed in lingerie (and Utada Hikaru looking in through a window from outside in the rain).

I am one release closer to finding out what this serial code is about.

^ lol...

i personally think some people just need to get over themselves.
I love how people get all..
THIS IS MY OPINION! SORRY I DIDNT RELEASE I WASN'T ALOUD TO HAVE ONE...

when everyone else was also giving their own opinion as well...

This would be epic! xD

OT: Every awesome post ends up in the trash can.

the Minis have remixes acoustics and instrumentals, they are great!

So the mini's were super singles then? Why am I not surprised by avex?

I was still a student when I first knew about Ayumi. I didn't have any more money at that time, so I did buy the pirated cd and illegal download. I love her but I can't afford to buy her albums/singles at that time. In 2009, I got a job, I bought everything that Ayu released (including her past releases but not including magazine/ayupan/concert stuffs)). So I hope you guys who's still studying/looking for jobs, I understand. Sooner or later you will eventually buy her album.����

super singles are a good way to look at them lmao

I died :laugh

I'd buy this.

too bad they weren't marketed that way.

FINALLY got my copies of again from YA today!

loveppears only had 3 new songs (intro/interlude not counted) when it was released so this is sooo cool about the five new songs thing

agree. but it has to be included to complete the so called "trilogy".

and that makes ASB more awful... (Happenig Here is the only exclusive in that album and that is a cover)

I don't know if this was posted but...

the photobook has 24 pages.

　※数量限定生産盤／ayupanフィギュア付き（1個）／PHOTO BOOK（24P）

http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/news/121227.html

Because you're smarter than a good half of this forum :D

Let's be honest, we ALL see it coming. Avex have always been thieves.

yeah, the photobook is supposed to be ALL new stuff....
I wonder when she had the time to do all that?
It's not like she used her time to make NEW music, lol...
(let the flames begin)

She usually spends 6-8wks rehearsing borderline nonstop for CDL... Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if she's already penned the new songs but hasn't recorded them yet. But maybe she recorded "again" and these new songs together, who knows.

And as far as the photobook goes, she may shoot that next month? She's got 6-ish weeks before the release of the album.