If Ayu had worked with TK from her debut..
 

What songs or sound do you think he would have given her? I think he would have ditched hitomi and just given all her songs tbh.

Dance who sound outdated in 2000 ^^ I love TK's dance songs XD Considering he kept the experimental tracks for globe I don't know ? But I really prefer the songs for globe than the ones for Namie, Tomomi Kahala, Ami Suzuki etc...

Debut as in 1995 or 1998??

ayu should have done some globe songs for sure :love

I think he would have given her songs like those of Namie, Kahala Tomomi, etc... As much as I love a lot of his songs, I'm glad Ayu didn't worked with him right from the start.

I'm so glad he didn't tbh, I hate 99% of his work :(

There were no chance that he works with her because at that time Komuro was in in bad terms with max matsuura and this last one wanted to get rid o f him and create himself a new big star ^^

There'd also be no chance I'd be a fan.

Cause gross.

I dont think she would be where she is today...

Ugh
I'd probably avoid most of her stuff like the plague

this discussion is about music/songs~

they'd sound horribly dated
ASfXX would sound more modern
there'd be 1-2 songs that would be good (like name's and aim's TK selection)

ASFXX would probably be a way better album ;)

In the early 2000s got Japan sick of TK and her career would have suffered for it. She would have been just another semi-forgotten 90s act if she did.

^ In 1998 hitomi stopped working with TK for more creative control and became bigger than she already was. So assuming Ayu started with him in like 1995 and did the same thing her legacy could have potentially been bigger :yes


I can't imagine what he would give her, probably typical cute-ish j-pop songs like he did for yuchida yuki and mizuki alisa? dumbed down versions of tomomi kahala songs, 4th member of dos...the possibilities are endless~

i really love the Komuro 90s style...i think he is an alive legend, he brought to japan all the elecnronic and under style that makes the 90s a big decade. his globe proyect was so experimental and interested, and the TRF party songs was just uniques.

i think the dark atmosphere of the early ayu songs it would be sound perfect with the intense sound of komuro
i can imagine a song like "Itoshi sato Setsuna sato Kokoro suyo sato" in the lips of ayu :)

Perfectly said =) This man is very talented

Actually, the only problem with TK is that he was really overplayed, the market got saturated and his sound got dated due overuse.

Well, personally I don't think it's because of overuse. Unfortunately, to me, TKs older works are the opposite of wine and scotch, the older, the worse. Those TK songs are some of the songs I've ever heard age the worst in my whole life..I mean, hitomi's older album are a kick in the balls as well as namie's. They both became much better after they got rid of TK. Thankfully ayu only got his compositions recently, and hopefully they'll just keep to a few. :yes

You really have to have an appreciation for TK...
You either really Love him or hate him.
there is also the 3rd choice of listening a few times and then dumping, lol.

I like some of his stuff, but i really do think if she had stuck to him like she has in the past few years she would not be were she is today... or I guess she would... lol this is what her career would have looked like.
=)

TK songs sounded modern in the 90's but passed 00's his arrangements sounded dated (except for globe songs where his arrangements are way better than other singers who have worked with him) ! Just for exemple compare the dance songs of Ayu in 2000 (fly high or audience or even too late released in 1999 ) with the dance songs of Namie in 1996 (chase the chance or You're My Sunshine) the differences are BIG Ayu sounded far more modern !!!

But are you saying this based on your impressions after hearing his stuff now or did you listen to him back in the 90's? There's a huge difference.

Is somewhat like that staple 80's sound based on Michael Jackson's classics that everyone was copying back them... It was/is so used everywhere by everyone that is hard to use it nowadays without sounding old...

I listened to him in the 2000's and thought they were regular to annoying, and as I think of today, it sounds even more nauseating. I agree with what someone else said that Globe's song were slightly more well produced than the rest, because it's true, from the whole TK discography, Globe's were the ones able to age a little more properly than the whole rest of his productions. On the other hand, a lot of Michael Jackson's 70 and 80's songs, I only got to listen to them around 2008 (a yerar before his death), and they were amazing, and still are some of his best songs. MJ ages/d properly. TK doesn't/idn't, because most of his old composition are quite cheesy (though it's a bit of unfairness imo to compare MJ to any other pop composer in the world). Don't get me wrong, I love and am very nostalgic of music from the past, I love how in the 80's there was more use for sax in songs and the drum beats were much more drmatic like those in "Live To Tell". This kind of stuff makes you notice the song is old, but it still makes the sound stand fairly nicely and uniquely up to nowadays in my point of view; with TK songs, I dunno, maybe the problems was he actually had amateur singers to sing his compositions back then? But I think even with a great singer it still would sound sort of off and cheesy somewhat...like ayu's SIGNAL song..., which I like but I know it's one of the main ayu songs that aged pretty badly.

Well, I wasn't talking about Michael, but about the overall 80's sound that a lot of people did copy, and still do, from him. On the same way, that sound we call animesong is pretty much people still using the TK sound up to today. Also, early in the 00s TK was already very dated, to the point of his whole "family" failing at once.

(Tbm acho que o som do TK lembra demais a Xuxa pra um brasileiro conseguir levar ele a sério xD)

Se eu te disser que ainda prefiro as composições do Michael Sulivan/Paulo Massadas e Cid Guerreiro ao TK, tu me mata? :laugh

Lua de Cristal > Can you celebrate ;P

It's not like I'm a TK super fan, I just believe his work would have old FAR well if it wasn't so overused... And I'm glad that even if Ayu is using his compositions lately, she is using her group of producers to add her own twist to it.


The only jpop stuff released during the TK peak era I love are Matsutoya Yumi's... who is a powerhouse producer of her own right.

I don't think it would have made much difference.

Her early works are "trendy". They sound like a bunch of other things in jpop, just a bit darker.

She debuted during TK's decline... I don't think it would be trendy for her using his sound.

lol Maybe I just don't know 90s pop very well, it all sounds the same to me.

I love TK :P

But I'm glad Ayu didn't work with him straight away. Most of the artists he produced work for (that I've heard) sounds very dated now and I don't think Ayu would be where she is now if she was part of the TK tree.

globe are by far one of my favourite bands ever. The stuff TK came out with with them was much better then most of the music he was producing for other people. Though I still love some of it :P

Also, Love songs was amazing :P