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truehappiness 30th January 2013 06:50 AM

'LOVE again' composers/arrangers and new track lengths
 
Looks like they were released! And surprisingly, Yuta Nakano did untitled for her... story 2!

04. SAKURA - 4:33
music: Kunio Tago
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

06. task'n'bass - 1:57
music & arrangement: tasuku

07. Bye-bye darling - 4:02
music: Yasuhiko Hoshino
arrangement: tasuku

10. petal - 4:10
music: Kunio Tago
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

11. glasses - 1:45
music & arrangement: Yuta Nakano

12. untitled for her... story 2 - 5:22
music & arrangement: Yuta Nakano

13. Gloria - 4:38
music: Yasuhiko Hoshino
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

http://i.imgur.com/geU0yuh.jpg

Lots of Yuta!

inspire_rmx 30th January 2013 06:58 AM

excited for the new tracks. lots of my fav Ayu composers ^^ too bad DAI and CREA isn't part of the list

truehappiness 30th January 2013 07:01 AM

I sort of wonder where CMJK went, but he just did a cup of tea for Party Queen so he may have just been busy, haha.

DAI at least did Sweet scar!

01. Wake me up
music: Hiten Bharadia, Philippe-Marc Anquetil, Bardue Haberg from PhrasedDifferently
arrangement: tasuku

02. Song 4 u
music: HINATAspring, Yuta Nakano
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

03. Missing
music: Kazuhiro Hara
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

04. SAKURA
music: Kunio Tago
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

05. Melody
music: Yasuhiko Hoshino
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

06. task'n'bass
music & arrangement: tasuku

07. Bye-bye darling
music: Yasuhiko Hoshino
arrangement: tasuku

08. snowy kiss
music: Tetsuya Komuro
arrangement: tasuku

09. Sweet scar
music: DAI
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

10. petal
music: Kunio Tago
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

11. glasses
music & arrangement: Yuta Nakano

12. untitled for her... story 2
music & arrangement: Yuta Nakano

13. Gloria
music: Yasuhiko Hoshino
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

14. Ivy
music: Tetsuya Komuro
arrangement: Yuta Nakano

15. You & Me
music: Tetsuya Komuro
arrangement: tasuku

This should be complete with all of the composers/arrangers for the album. Soooo much Yuta.

BlackSilence 30th January 2013 07:06 AM

seems like Yuta Nakano & tasuku, owns this lol

njanjayrp 30th January 2013 07:06 AM

You can never go wrong with Yuta.

AyaCere 30th January 2013 07:44 AM

I'm so glad, that Hoshino-san composed at least 3 songs of LOVE again.
He did a great job on ASFXX back then, just love him.

ExodusUK 30th January 2013 07:44 AM

needs more TK

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th January 2013 07:49 AM

14. Ivy
music: Tetsuya Komuro
arrangement: Yuta Nakano


No wonder this is my favourite song in the entire album (so far).

I didn't check the composers for when LOVE and again got released, so yeah lol

tokyoxjapanxfan 30th January 2013 08:35 AM

I was hoping for more TK but I had already assumed it wouldn't be the case haha.

I can't waaaaaaait!

AyuWorld 30th January 2013 08:50 AM

wow! I loved Snowy kiss so much! and Ivy too and both actually from TK haha,he really is a masterpiece!

TeamAyu2004 30th January 2013 09:16 AM

interesting.
thanks

Jawdarna 30th January 2013 09:54 AM

I'm glad there is a lot less TK this time around. :D

mizuki-7 30th January 2013 10:02 AM

I would like she works with news people or others composers/arrangers ^^

AyuGAME 30th January 2013 10:13 AM

Now we know why this album sounds so nostalgic...

C+R+E+AYUMI 30th January 2013 10:28 AM

thanks for posting

Delicious n Bold 30th January 2013 01:31 PM

No wonder I like untitled 2
Tago didn't touch it!
YESSSS

And wasnt Nakano part of HAL?
No wonder Ayu uses him/her a lot.

Also I agree that she should use new people
Most complaints I see are because she reuses old composers like dried up tissues.

reixminako 30th January 2013 01:45 PM

I'm glad there's only one TK song...I'm not really a fan of his work -- too stuck in the '90s for the most part, in my opinion. Ivy is good, though :). I think there's just enough of him in this album.

truehappiness 30th January 2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reixminako (Post 2969417)
I'm glad there's only one TK song...I'm not really a fan of his work -- too stuck in the '90s for the most part, in my opinion. Ivy is good, though :). I think there's just enough of him in this album.

There are three! You & Me/Ivy/snowy kiss.

Quote:

And wasnt Nakano part of HAL?
No wonder Ayu uses him/her a lot.
Yes, and it seems he was the good part of H/\L before he left. Now H/\L is dead, lol.

freedreamer 30th January 2013 02:08 PM

Kunio Tago?!?! omg..the dude who gave me Together When... :D :D now im very pumped for them. Gloria and Bye-bye darling (which reminded me of blossom) sounds very Hoshino indeed.

reixminako 30th January 2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2969421)
There are three! You & Me/Ivy/snowy kiss

Oh goodness! Well...at least it's not the majority of the album, like Love songs. I really like You & Me, though. snowy kiss is okay. He's not a bad composer...a lot of his songs just sound really dated.

krazeyo 30th January 2013 03:35 PM

hmmm Yasuhiko Hoshino maybe thats why I keep getting ASFXX vibes :D

JinHamasaki 30th January 2013 03:46 PM

This album is turning out to be much better than I thought! I don't think the problem is her composers, but rather her arrangers need to be different. I think ayu has a strong set of composers that know her voice really well. I think new arrangers will really take her to the next level.

freedreamer 30th January 2013 03:56 PM

btw, with these leaked...is that a sign?

truehappiness 30th January 2013 04:08 PM

Arrangements tend to date songs imo more than compositions. (see ASFXX)

ayu-marco 30th January 2013 05:13 PM

Snowy kiss and Ivy are the masterpieces!!!

yamadashun 30th January 2013 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2969341)
You can never go wrong with Yuta.

i always love Yuta's arrangement!

mizuki-7 30th January 2013 05:57 PM

I have mixed feelings toward Yuta Nakano :/ I think it's not her best arranger sometime it's too artificial (I don't know how to explain my feelings lol) Though he has doing a great job with her ^^

love in music 30th January 2013 06:01 PM

i think this album will have great flow :heart

Bigtop 30th January 2013 06:28 PM

Only two interludes after all...

Heavenly 30th January 2013 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2969341)
You can never go wrong with Yuta.

You're right, but at the same time, I feel no originality in his songs... They're all generic. Good, very good, but generic and not "new" at all.
I'm kind of sick of him lately, I hope that Ayu will hire some international composers for future songs (and not just buy some music from foreign studios, like she did with Tell me why or Wake me up), I mean, real collaboration.

Bad Wolf 30th January 2013 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyaCere (Post 2969347)
I'm so glad, that Hoshino-san composed at least 3 songs of LOVE again.
He did a great job on ASFXX back then, just love him.

he's been around for that long?! damn. bless him.

love in music 30th January 2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2969471)
You're right, but at the same time, I feel no originality in his songs... They're all generic. Good, very good, but generic and not "new" at all.
I'm kind of sick of him lately, I hope that Ayu will hire some international composers for future songs (and not just buy some music from foreign studios, like she did with Tell me why or Wake me up), I mean, real collaboration.

I wouldn't say all his songs are generic. I think he's versatile and can be original. He did "Sexy little things" which isn't generic imo.

Heavenly 30th January 2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2969482)
I wouldn't say all his songs are generic. I think he's versatile and can be original. He did "Sexy little things" which isn't generic imo.

Yes, but in terms of ballads, he's not very innovative, and I tend to hate his little "tinkerbells-winterish" sounds and useless violins -__-

Zeke. 30th January 2013 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2969483)
Yes, but in terms of ballads, he's not very innovative, and I tend to hate his little "tinkerbells-winterish" sounds and useless violins -__-

Effing LOVE those tinkerbells and winterish type synth sounds!

Coelacanth 30th January 2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2969465)
I have mixed feelings toward Yuta Nakano :/ I think it's not her best arranger sometime it's too artificial (I don't know how to explain my feelings lol) Though he has doing a great job with her ^^

The arrangement of Return Road comes to mind. Way too bombastic and overdone.

ayumisrael 30th January 2013 09:10 PM

Return Road's was a superb song. The arrangement is really strong and adds to the song's theme a lot.

Zeke. 30th January 2013 09:24 PM

I dislike Return Road. I also feel like it wasn't mastered properly when listening to certain parts of the chorus - it sounds almost screechy, as if there is too much going on and the speakers can't handle it.

pimenta 30th January 2013 10:49 PM

I was wishing for mor TK and DAI, but oh well... A lot of Yuta Nakano sounds interesting! And It's nice to see a composition from Kunio Tago as well :)

jbrat2219 30th January 2013 10:56 PM

Why are people asking for her to work with new composers? Did you forget about Timmy? Remember how well that turned out? :laugh

Pieces_of_SEVEN 30th January 2013 11:14 PM

I'm really anxious for something upbeat and also new rock songs. Sucks that these all sound like ballads

kimmeh 30th January 2013 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2969512)
Why are people asking for her to work with new composers? Did you forget about Timmy? Remember how well that turned out? :laugh

BRILLIANTE was a masterpiece though

Tony G 30th January 2013 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2969471)
You're right, but at the same time, I feel no originality in his songs... They're all generic. Good, very good, but generic and not "new" at all.
I'm kind of sick of him lately, I hope that Ayu will hire some international composers for future songs (and not just buy some music from foreign studios, like she did with Tell me why or Wake me up), I mean, real collaboration.

International composers will generally try to create western-sounding pop songs. There's a whole host of Japanese artists who are making western-sounding songs, it won't work well for Ayu who has mostly avoided that trap her entire career. International compositions worked very well for tell me why but Wake me up tends to sound too western.

Yuta Nakano's compositions are fantastic if Ayu wants one of her (now) generic pop-rock songs. Seems Ayu seems to want to go for that familiar sound for her 15th anniversary. And that's the compositions she has selected - there's a reason he appears so much here.

Delicious n Bold 30th January 2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimmeh (Post 2969520)
BRILLIANTE was a masterpiece though

hmm..............................

mizuki-7 31st January 2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2969528)
hmm..............................


maybe not a masterpiece but an excellent piece of work =)

Zeke. 31st January 2013 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969525)
International composers will generally try to create western-sounding pop songs. There's a whole host of Japanese artists who are making western-sounding songs, it won't work well for Ayu who has mostly avoided that trap her entire career. International compositions worked very well for tell me why but Wake me up tends to sound too western.

Yuta Nakano's compositions are fantastic if Ayu wants one of her (now) generic pop-rock songs. Seems Ayu seems to want to go for that familiar sound for her 15th anniversary. And that's the compositions she has selected - there's a reason he appears so much here.

I couldn't disagree more about Wake me up. That song is the first song in a long time that actually showed that Hamasaki Ayumi "attitude". It was classic Ayumi.

truehappiness 31st January 2013 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969525)
Yuta Nakano's compositions are fantastic if Ayu wants one of her (now) generic pop-rock songs. Seems Ayu seems to want to go for that familiar sound for her 15th anniversary. And that's the compositions she has selected - there's a reason he appears so much here.

Yuta only really arranged for the most part on this album, but he's been doing that since GUILTY/NEXT LEVEL. I am guessing Ayu uses him because he's extremely versatile, knows exactly what Ayu wants, and can execute it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Wolf (Post 2969477)
he's been around for that long?! damn. bless him.

He actually disappeared for a loooonng time before he came back for MOON/blossom.

Didz-19 31st January 2013 03:56 AM

^^ maybe you're talking about "Love songs"?

AYUCREA 31st January 2013 04:00 AM

no hidden track.. but still looking forward to those new songs!!

This album will be one of her best imo!!!

brener 31st January 2013 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2969372)
I would like she works with news people or others composers/arrangers ^^

me too...

JinHamasaki 31st January 2013 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969525)

Yuta Nakano's compositions are fantastic if Ayu wants one of her (now) generic pop-rock songs. Seems Ayu seems to want to go for that familiar sound for her 15th anniversary. And that's the compositions she has selected - there's a reason he appears so much here.

Although I think I will enjoy this release a lot, I can't help but wonder and think about how some international influence would help her out a bit. I think keeping her Japanese composers will keep that distinctive "Ayu" sound. Moreover, they know how she likes to stress the "iii" which is something very un-western. But having some other people arrange the music and instrumentals would be nice to kick her out of a rut. Yes, Party queen delved into musicals, but we could use some more upbeat music every now and then :).

On the other hand, as a 15th anniversary, I think she is looking to bring back classic Ayu :)

BlackSilence 31st January 2013 06:28 AM

^ she is deffinitelly bringing stuff back to basics, since all of the songs pretty much make me think "i did hear that before, somewhere..."

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2969512)
Why are people asking for her to work with new composers? Did you forget about Timmy? Remember how well that turned out? :laugh

it turned out well, for me xD I liked everything except PQ and The next LOVE. i think he was good xD *shrugs* wasn't too impressed with BRILLANTE tho, but it wasn't bad either.

YUKARI 31st January 2013 10:59 AM

thanks for info!

njanjayrp 31st January 2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969525)
International composers will generally try to create western-sounding pop songs. There's a whole host of Japanese artists who are making western-sounding songs, it won't work well for Ayu who has mostly avoided that trap her entire career. International compositions worked very well for tell me why but Wake me up tends to sound too western.

Yuta Nakano's compositions are fantastic if Ayu wants one of her (now) generic pop-rock songs. Seems Ayu seems to want to go for that familiar sound for her 15th anniversary. And that's the compositions she has selected - there's a reason he appears so much here.

I wouldn't mind Ayu working with GEO again and Timmy has done quite well so far. Though GEO's compositions aren't really that western sounding...

chu-lips 31st January 2013 11:57 AM

what's the differences between music & arrangement?

a lot of Japanese ayu fans i know they said they tired with TK,he's old-fashioned according to them...

kimmeh 31st January 2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2969536)
maybe not a masterpiece but an excellent piece of work =)

In my opinion it was a masterpiece. It was so different from anything she had ever done, ever. The song meaning is great, the music is great, the PV is amazing, her voice sounds great. I love that song a lot. :love


@chu-lips;
Easily explained:
Arrangement-> the structure of the song. What comes where and how and how to place the instruments together without it sounding cluttered.
Music->composing. The ones who made the music/melody (and in some cases, wrote the lyrics, but Ayu writes it herself)

LONJJONG 31st January 2013 03:18 PM

It's like back to basic again..
And I just knew that Sweet scar was composed by DAI...
No doubt it's really a masterpiece

Bad Wolf 31st January 2013 04:43 PM

I'm really getting an "old school" vibe from this album so far, reminiscent of "RAINBOW", actually. She may not have songs that are funky like Real me, July 1st, and everywhere nowhere on it, but there's something about the overall structure -- the softness, the theme, the lyrics, the songs -- that just make me think of that record. Truth be told, I really do prefer her having songs that all link together thematically and musically. When she has songs that stand out like sore thumbs thrown into the mix of really pretty ones, I get a little bummed. It just feels like she did them to placate the expectation of creating super pop songs (I don't think she's done a sugary pop song since, what, Sunrise?). I guess if you're in the mood for it, it's perfect to hear her take on it. And it did kind of help establish her early on, but it never felt like something Ayu really had her heart in. This darker but also more melodic, midtempo stuff seems to be her speed, and there's definitely a lot more of those songs in her discog than anything else.

However! I look forward to see what she'll be doing AFTER this 15th anniversary business is complete. It's like "NEXT LEVEL" all over again: the idea that she's going to take a different approach to her career and her albums, her style, her shows, etc. Some changes may have been subtle or just plain small (the set up of her shows, for instance, going from a flat stage to a round one on all sides) but I think that "NEXT LEVEL" to "LOVE again" is kind of like her 'softer' years. She's older, she's reached several mile stones in her career; she's no longer one of the only massive solo female artists out there, so she doesn't have to constantly worry about hits, sales, image, etc. That's not to say she's taking it easy, but simply that Kuu and Namie are also reigning queens who do their own thing, and it's therefore easier for Ayu to do her own approach, too.

Am I explaining myself properly? lol I just think if you take a step back and look at the progression of Ayu's albums through the years you can definitely see an evolution of them, all kind of building up to her sound and style in this current post-NL era. I hope "LOVE again" is sort of like the 'finale' to that approach, though, and she'll be trying for some different stuff in the next batch of releases. Personally, I'm jonesing for a concept album.

Tony G 1st February 2013 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2969540)
I couldn't disagree more about Wake me up. That song is the first song in a long time that actually showed that Hamasaki Ayumi "attitude". It was classic Ayumi.

There's really no denying the western electropop influence that song has to the point where it comes off as somewhat generic. It's a great song, don't get me wrong, but it's not the kind of music I'd want Ayu to produce on a large scale. I prefer NEXT LEVEL album or Last Angel-type compositions if she was going to continue producing electronic-influenced songs.

Zeke. 1st February 2013 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969839)
There's really no denying the western electropop influence that song has to the point where it comes off as somewhat generic. It's a great song, don't get me wrong, but it's not the kind of music I'd want Ayu to produce on a large scale. I prefer NEXT LEVEL album or Last Angel-type compositions if she was going to continue producing electronic-influenced songs.

It's like Sparkle which was from NEXT LEVEL, lol. I think it's totally Ayu, straight from the opening.

Party Queen on the other hand, that one doesn't sound anything like Ayu...

But I get I am...-ish vibes from Wake me up mixed with her classic power-house tracks.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 1st February 2013 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony G (Post 2969839)
There's really no denying the western electropop influence that song has to the point where it comes off as somewhat generic. It's a great song, don't get me wrong, but it's not the kind of music I'd want Ayu to produce on a large scale. I prefer NEXT LEVEL album or Last Angel-type compositions if she was going to continue producing electronic-influenced songs.

I agree with Zeke here, and don't think Wake me up has a generic western sound. It sounds MODERN to me, which had been missing from alot of Ayu songs recently (IMO). Sparkle actually sounds alot more like a western dance track to me but Ayu played both styles well with both lyrics and the strenght of her voice in them. Last Angel is nice but sounds like 2 songs melded together; the chorus is fun but the verses bog it down so much...

I welcome any song that has a Sparkle/Wake me up modern and fun sound with open arms. All in all, LOVE again is such a step up from FIVE-Party Queen and even Rock'n' Roll Circus (which i LOVE).

Zeke. 2nd February 2013 12:29 AM

I like Last Angel, I really do. But the arrangement sounds so dated. I mean, the mix of WHATEVER on LOVEppears sounds more modern than Last Angel does and that was from 1999. Lol.

happiholic★ 2nd February 2013 04:33 AM

Only two interludes! And Sweet Scar is longer on the album?

microphone 3rd February 2013 03:54 PM

I am surprised to see that SAKURA and petal are composed by Kunio Tago. Just the right lengths, I'd like to add.

rakeru 3rd February 2013 04:59 PM

I love Yuta! I'm glad to see so much of him!

Maraschino 3rd February 2013 07:48 PM

many old friends, no wonder it is called LOVE again~take us back, time machine~

tokyoxjapanxfan 5th February 2013 05:04 AM

After hearing Bye-bye darling, tasuku needs to arrange more songs!

C+R+E+AYUMI 5th February 2013 07:36 AM

who's Tago?

mizuki-7 5th February 2013 10:11 AM

Quote:

After hearing Bye-bye darling, tasuku needs to arrange more songs!
Definitely !!!! !!!!

Delicious n Bold 5th February 2013 03:09 PM

I love petal's arrangement and composition
:heart

Pieces_of_SEVEN 6th February 2013 05:51 AM

I'm disappointed that there is no hidden track :/

TeamAyu2004 6th February 2013 06:29 AM

i was hoping we would get one as well... :*(

Delicious n Bold 10th February 2013 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2969414)
No wonder I like untitled 2
Tago didn't touch it!
YESSSS

And wasnt Nakano part of HAL?
No wonder Ayu uses him/her a lot.

Also I agree that she should use new people
Most complaints I see are because she reuses old composers like dried up tissues.

Sit down son!
You love petal, and tago touched that!

I love petal the most :heart


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