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Mirrorcle Monster 12th August 2013 10:20 PM

Applause VS Roar
 
Applause for me

TeamAyu2004 12th August 2013 11:18 PM

roar

Delicious n Bold 12th August 2013 11:28 PM

Applause

Benikari47 13th August 2013 12:06 AM

Applause, Roar is a complete snooze fest and i love Katy.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 13th August 2013 12:07 AM

Applause

Ayus angel 13th August 2013 03:19 AM

Applause for me
i felt like roar was bonus track in teenage dream

NintendoHTF1242 13th August 2013 03:40 AM

Applause all the way. Roar is so basic.

Dream 13th August 2013 04:21 AM

Applause! Roar isn't bad though, just not my kind of thing.

Andrenekoi 13th August 2013 04:29 AM

Roar.
Applause is a song for dancing that don't make me feel like dancing at all.

harufi 13th August 2013 10:27 AM

Applause, Roar just doesn't do anything for me

marty 13th August 2013 01:51 PM

Roar, I love how it quietly rocks in its simplicity and the way it grows in the chorus! <3
I appreciated Applause, it's very nice, but for me there's the usual problem that always shows up with Gaga songs: too many expectations, they talked too much about it, and in the end it's nothing earthbreaking.
Neither of them are masterpieces though, I think they're pretty much at the same level, quality speaking.

MeltingCORE 13th August 2013 04:29 PM

Roar. But I'm digging both songs. Like others have said, these songs aren't anything groundbreaking but they're still enjoyable! (I'm a fan of both singers.)

relmy 13th August 2013 04:40 PM

Applause, like some others I don't think either are that great, but I'd rather hear Applause on the radio.

TITANIC 13th August 2013 04:51 PM

roar for me

terra 14th August 2013 02:08 AM

Applause for me

ストロボ・EdGE 14th August 2013 04:09 AM

Both terrible. Terr-i-ble.

My Rainbow 14th August 2013 04:22 AM

Applause is disgusting.


Lady Gargole, go home!

kotora 14th August 2013 05:18 AM

Roar because I like cats.

YuriChan 14th August 2013 05:51 AM

Applause. It has that David Bowie vibe! :D

Kouyou 14th August 2013 06:19 AM

Neither offer anything new from their respective artists but at least Roar is relatable and has personality. Lady Gaga is pretentious; she treats this release as if it's life-changing and just the best song ever. It's a fine song but let's not pretend this is something that it isn't. Like marty said, the songs are on the same level in terms of quality.

koumori 14th August 2013 07:41 AM

Applause. My opinions on the PR of the songs and the artists themselves aside, it's just the better song to me. Roar is boring and I feel I've heard similar songs before from Katy Perry.

Minttulatte 14th August 2013 12:03 PM

Applause because I've never been a fan of Katy Perry's music. :)

hayasaki 14th August 2013 12:11 PM

ROAR. I like this genre more than gaga's but I appreciate her effort in applause. Sorry for my ignorance but why do people compare these two different songs?

koumori 14th August 2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayasaki (Post 3023142)
Sorry for my ignorance but why do people compare these two different songs?

Because if we compared the same song, it wouldn't be much of a discussion. :)

ayufan- 14th August 2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 3023124)
Neither offer anything new from their respective artists but at least Roar is relatable and has personality. Lady Gaga is pretentious; she treats this release as if it's life-changing and just the best song ever. It's a fine song but let's not pretend this is something that it isn't. Like marty said, the songs are on the same level in terms of quality.

Amen, exactly my thoughts

rookies 14th August 2013 07:32 PM

Applause.

KremlinChaos 14th August 2013 09:42 PM

I like Applause a bit more.

hayasaki 15th August 2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3023157)


Because if we compared the same song, it wouldn't be much of a discussion. :)

duhhh. What I meant is that i saw some discussions in some forums and the comment sections of their videos in YT. I read somewhere that someone copied someone. I heard both songs and they don't sound similar to me. Perhaps ROAR sounded closer to Brave, the song which some fans stated to which Roar was copied from. And I started to wonder how Applause got something to do with it that i even saw it here in AHS.

Kazeyomi 15th August 2013 02:44 AM

Both songs are anything special, imo.
Artpop is so hyped, I put all of my hopes on Applause. But it turned out as a generic dance song.
Roar have cute lyrics, but it's like picking a random Katy Perry's album track out of her discography for me. Her singles are nice, but album tracks are really boring.

So, uhm... I think I'll gonna for Katy Perry, mostly because I agree with this

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 3023124)
Neither offer anything new from their respective artists but at least Roar is relatable and has personality. Lady Gaga is pretentious; she treats this release as if it's life-changing and just the best song ever. It's a fine song but let's not pretend this is something that it isn't.


koumori 15th August 2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayasaki (Post 3023238)
Perhaps ROAR sounded closer to Brave, the song which some fans stated to which Roar was copied from. And I started to wonder how Applause got something to do with it that i even saw it here in AHS.

They're both recent songs released by female, American pop stars that are in the American Pop category, currently both contenders for the #1 spot. I'm not really sure how much more in common you want them to be in order to not be against their comparison :tipsy No one is saying the songs are copied from one another, but it's more seeing which song AHS thinks is better as a majority. We've had plenty of similar polls before..

hayasaki 15th August 2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3023258)


They're both recent songs released by female, American pop stars that are in the American Pop category, currently both contenders for the #1 spot. I'm not really sure how much more in common you want them to be in order to not be against their comparison :tipsy No one is saying the songs are copied from one another, but it's more seeing which song AHS thinks is better as a majority. We've had plenty of similar polls before..

Well, now that make sense. Thank you. I just got confused by the comments I read in Youtube. LOL

Andrenekoi 15th August 2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayasaki (Post 3023238)
duhhh. What I meant is that i saw some discussions in some forums and the comment sections of their videos in YT. I read somewhere that someone copied someone. I heard both songs and they don't sound similar to me. Perhaps ROAR sounded closer to Brave, the song which some fans stated to which Roar was copied from. And I started to wonder how Applause got something to do with it that i even saw it here in AHS.

Both were released on the same day and are comeback singles for two important popstars of the moment that are trying to stabilish themselves

They are just on such competition because Gaga released her song 1 week before the official date... She said it happened because she was afraid of hackers, but she most likely did it because she wanted the fight.

NintendoHTF1242 16th August 2013 01:43 AM

Okay my opinion changed. I'm starting to like Roar more :x

George 16th August 2013 05:04 AM

Roar. I'm getting tired of Lady Gaga's pretentious art shtick and overall insecurities. I lost it when she released Applause the very next day Katy Perry released her single. She couldn't wait for her moment that would've come eventually anyway. It backfired though, she's now behind Katy Perry and that Blurred Lines dude. She makes it really hard to root for her. She looks really gorgeous though.

/rant

tokyoxjapanxfan 16th August 2013 07:10 AM

I listened to them both a few days ago, just one time each. And chorus of Roar is still in my head, while I can't even remember how Applause goes...

However before I vote I suppose I need to re-listen to both of them haha.

On the other hand though, who's to say Katy didn't hurry to release her song before Gaga? I feel like Gaga's date was revealed before Katy's... maybe that's not true though.

koumori 16th August 2013 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3023334)
On the other hand though, who's to say Katy didn't hurry to release her song before Gaga? I feel like Gaga's date was revealed before Katy's... maybe that's not true though.

Well, Gaga was due to release Applause on the 19th, but due to leaks she rushed it out. People are saying it's to compete with Katy Perry...personally I don't think she's that stupid and it was probably to stop her losing any sales over piracy...but people just love dramatic gossip, lol

blackmage 16th August 2013 07:37 AM

Roar. When I first listened to it, I fell for the song and the lyrics are relate-able and fun, I like the small nuances throughout the song and the jungle-pop drum feel.

Applause I thought was weird and not that great at first when I heard it. A grower and it took a while, but I like it now. Its alright. Just another Gaga song (arguably we can say Roar is just another Katy song though).


So I pick Roar!

Mirrorcle Monster 16th August 2013 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George (Post 3023330)
Roar. I'm getting tired of Lady Gaga's pretentious art shtick and overall insecurities. I lost it when she released Applause the very next day Katy Perry released her single. She couldn't wait for her moment that would've come eventually anyway. It backfired though, she's now behind Katy Perry and that Blurred Lines dude. She makes it really hard to root for her. She looks really gorgeous though.

/rant

She had to rush-release it because of the leaks. Her radio deal and the promotion campaign are all scheduled for next week, this week she just had a couple of radio interviews and some radios stard playing it early

Andrenekoi 17th August 2013 01:28 AM

"Leak"... On this case the "leak" was some random people playing 30s of her song on some random chats, not the whole thing for download on decent quality. It could be hackers, it could be her PR team.

And the overall idea of hushing one week to not losing sales for piracy is just stupid... After piracy became something pretty common, people buying this or that track is people that want to buy this or that track, not people buying it cuz they have no other way of listening it.

Officially releasing it won't force anyone who never wanted to buy it to actually buy it. She wanted competition, she got competition... And she is being beaten.

~StarCatcher~ 17th August 2013 12:44 PM

I think Applause.

Both are good but nothing too special to me.

Bitey 17th August 2013 06:49 PM

I don't like either that much
but I prefer Applause out of the two

brener 17th August 2013 10:05 PM

Roar

DevilHunter_04 18th August 2013 01:18 AM

Roar.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 20th August 2013 05:33 AM

Applesauce is good -definitely a grower though.
Katy's song sounds basic and recycled.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 3023124)
Neither offer anything new from their respective artists but at least Roar is relatable and has personality. Lady Gaga is pretentious; she treats this release as if it's life-changing and just the best song ever. It's a fine song but let's not pretend this is something that it isn't. Like marty said, the songs are on the same level in terms of quality.

http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

Gaga may be obnoxious and pretentious as hell and the song may be lower quality than some of her other stuff, but Katy's song has personality?
Its as safe as it gets. IMO, she's a textbook popstar with textbook songs (E.T. was a gem, though. THAT you can say is distinct in her discography) and Roar is more of her standard fare. Let's not pretend its something that it isn't ;)

Andrenekoi 20th August 2013 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher (Post 3023973)
Applesauce is good -definitely a grower though.
Katy's song sounds basic and recycled.



http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

Gaga may be obnoxious and pretentious as hell and the song may be lower quality than some of her other stuff, but Katy's song has personality?
Its as safe as it gets. IMO, she's a textbook popstar with textbook songs (E.T. was a gem, though. THAT you can say is distinct in her discography) and Roar is more of her standard fare. Let's not pretend its something that it isn't ;)

Well, to be honest, it's not like Gaga is all out of safe zone... She does have some songs here and there that are pretty interesting on their own (Paparazzi comes to mind), but most of her discography is pretty much your everyday radio-friendly pop music with high dose of pastiche and unworked references... She is just channeling older stuff (being it either Madonna, David Bowie, Britney Spears, Queen, Gwen Stefany, Elton John, Christina Aguilera, etc) without giving them much of her own most of the time. Her music is also very formulaic. Her image is far more outrageous and risky than her sound, and even so, even her image is not that much out of the box either.

Dream 20th August 2013 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher (Post 3023973)
Gaga may be obnoxious and pretentious as hell and the song may be lower quality than some of her other stuff, but Katy's song has personality?
Its as safe as it gets. IMO, she's a textbook popstar with textbook songs (E.T. was a gem, though. THAT you can say is distinct in her discography) and Roar is more of her standard fare. Let's not pretend its something that it isn't ;)

I actually agree with you so much, ET is the only Katy song that I really appreciate.

Delicious n Bold 20th August 2013 07:46 AM

^ me too, maybe because it's a dark-tinged song.

Kouyou 20th August 2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher (Post 3023973)
Applesauce is good -definitely a grower though.
Katy's song sounds basic and recycled.



http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

Gaga may be obnoxious and pretentious as hell and the song may be lower quality than some of her other stuff, but Katy's song has personality?
Its as safe as it gets. IMO, she's a textbook popstar with textbook songs (E.T. was a gem, though. THAT you can say is distinct in her discography) and Roar is more of her standard fare. Let's not pretend its something that it isn't ;)

Just because a song is "safe" doesn't necessarily mean that it lacks personality. Personality does not imply that a song is out of the box. What I mean when I say that the song has personality is that I feel like Katy Perry is being genuine in the song. When I heard "Roar", I felt like I got a glimpse at who Katy is-- in other words, her personality. I'm not even going to pretend that "Roar" is unique or raw or anything like that, but neither is Lady Gaga's song. :shrug

marty 20th August 2013 11:24 AM

^
I agree, being original or trying new directions don't always equal to having personality or making something that suits you. Doing an example, that's my issue with Rihanna: her songs are mostly very nice, with some real masterpieces here and there, but for me they don't reflect her as a person, no matter how good or ispired or new they are.
That said, Gaga did a very nice job with Born This Way album, she really tried something new and coherent, but Applause is safe (especially the chorus), just like Roar is. I already said both songs for me are not great, and pretty much at the same level, but I feel Katy did a better job with a song that suits her image perfectly, Gaga instead has not been up to all the hype she created around this song.
Anyway, I don't like Roar more because of all that, but because it's simply more to my taste.

emi♡ 20th August 2013 12:10 PM

Applesauce.

Roar is a million other boring songs I've heard already. The only good part is what they did for the "Roar". The rest is just recycled fluff.


At least apple is a million other perfectly iconic songs I've heard already. I'm happy it's "safe". Gaga's non-safe BTW music was boring, hard to listen to, and even harder to watch happening. I couldn't sing you a melody from that album if my life depended on it. And I even spammed some of the songs off it.

Refix 20th August 2013 01:40 PM

Both are kinda meh, nothing new. But I still prefer Roar although I usually just skip it half the track when the radio play it.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 20th August 2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Becky (Post 3023998)
Just because a song is "safe" doesn't necessarily mean that it lacks personality. Personality does not imply that a song is out of the box. What I mean when I say that the song has personality is that I feel like Katy Perry is being genuine in the song. When I heard "Roar", I felt like I got a glimpse at who Katy is-- in other words, her personality. I'm not even going to pretend that "Roar" is unique or raw or anything like that, but neither is Lady Gaga's song. :shrug

Its not bland because its safe, its just devoid of personality in the way that it could be sang by any popstar it was given to. it has no real identity in that sense. applesauce is 3 minutes of egocentrism, but at least you know it could only be a Gaga song. I don't think alot of poopstars would take that song simply based on the lyrics, much less on the sound.
Its not groundbreaking -I've said that already. You'd just know where it comes from.

Now you've made me sound like a little monster *shudder*
thanks :P

brener 20th August 2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3022956)
Roar.
Applause is a song for dancing that don't make me feel like dancing at all.

this.

Zahara 21st August 2013 01:25 AM

I don't think anything from BTW way radio friendly in the least.

Kouyou 21st August 2013 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher (Post 3024028)
Its not bland because its safe, its just devoid of personality in the way that it could be sang by any popstar it was given to. it has no real identity in that sense. applesauce is 3 minutes of egocentrism, but at least you know it could only be a Gaga song. I don't think alot of poopstars would take that song simply based on the lyrics, much less on the sound.
Its not groundbreaking -I've said that already. You'd just know where it comes from.

Now you've made me sound like a little monster *shudder*
thanks :P

That's the thing though; most other pop stars wouldn't take this song on, not because it's too Gaga sounding, but because it kinda sorta sucks. I know some fans are trying to say, "Oh, this song is about how her fans' applause saved her." Saved her from what, exactly? From her millions of dollars? I'm not trying to say that Lady Gaga doesn't have her own, personal struggles, but give me a break. That's not even how the song comes across-- it comes across as arrogant and is brought down by muddled lyrics that make little to no sense. If this is Lady Gaga's "personality" coming through, then count me out.

I do agree that Katy Perry's song could be sang by a slew of other pop artists, but I think that Katy brings something to the song too.

Kouyou 21st August 2013 04:07 AM

Sorry for the double post... :P
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3023978)
Well, to be honest, it's not like Gaga is all out of safe zone... She does have some songs here and there that are pretty interesting on their own (Paparazzi comes to mind), but most of her discography is pretty much your everyday radio-friendly pop music with high dose of pastiche and unworked references... She is just channeling older stuff (being it either Madonna, David Bowie, Britney Spears, Queen, Gwen Stefany, Elton John, Christina Aguilera, etc) without giving them much of her own most of the time. Her music is also very formulaic. Her image is far more outrageous and risky than her sound, and even so, even her image is not that much out of the box either.

Thisss so much. :yes

Delicious n Bold 21st August 2013 05:48 AM

I'm sure that the applause instrumental would be better than the version with singing...

emi♡ 21st August 2013 05:52 AM

I actually disagree with...some...people or whoever up there. I think if they gave applause to any other artist, people wouldn't hate on it the same way.

They'd just say "oh this is just another edm song."

Katy's song is just whatever...but most of her discog is like that anyway. So. I guess they both fit for both people.


I don't really care for Gaga's personality or lyrics either, but I'll take them over "you brought me down, but now Im getting up" stolen from like every other song ever created.

George 21st August 2013 06:08 AM

^ I love Roar, but it's basically a compilation of cliche shit. Perfect for that anti-gay Olympics.

I love Applesauce. It's fun! People wanted fun Lady Gaga and they got it.

NintendoHTF1242 21st August 2013 06:21 AM

Who the hell cares. Roar and Applause are both fun songs to listen to.

jean-baptiste 23rd August 2013 02:29 AM

I'm not too big fan of either singer but Applause by far

happiholic★ 9th September 2013 03:46 PM

Both are pretty basic, but I have Roar on my iPod, and not Applause. It just sounds like more of the same from Gaga.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th September 2013 09:42 PM

Roar

elvis810 1st October 2013 03:53 AM

APPLAUSE, without a doubt

Chibi-Chan 8th October 2013 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3022956)
Roar.
Applause is a song for dancing that don't make me feel like dancing at all.

This so much!

TeamAyu2004 8th October 2013 07:08 PM

I might have to change my mind to applause. LOL
after listening to the songs for months, I think I like applause more.


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