The Official Oricon Thread ~sixxxxxx~
 

Oricon Year of 2015 - Up to ARENA TOUR 2015 DVD/Blu-ray Release


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11th Week
Position: #130
Sales: 468
Total Sales: 44,140

#1, that's GREAT! :heart

Less than A-One 1st day sell... But ayu got 1 for today..

Well, let's see if it stays #1. It's too soon for applause.

But this is a mini album with lesser tracks than A One (even if they somehow didn't market it as mini album)

I agree, sungmo's album already sold 18,000+ yesterday so it depends how his album dropped today and how ayu's will drop throughout the week.

at least she got #1 Itunes, #1 oricon first day, better than A ONE's. But I'm worried about her next albums :irked

I'm happy for her that she recieves # 1 today. Hope this will last a little bit longer

Curious about recochoku albums tonight. Don't know how I should feel about this, hopefully SONGS will give it a boost.

Damn it. I told myself I no longer cared about how well things sold or not, so long as I myself like the music that's all that should matter to me, but then I got so happy when I saw she got number one for the first day! I honestly didn't think it was going to happen! (I guess I still care. hahaha xD)

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WOW number 1! Such great news!

All songs on this album have a sense of mediocrity in them, but they're overall decent with a huge chance of growing on me over time. Well, except Step by step, which is the musical representation of projectile vomiting.

Anyway, I was so surprised when I saw that it actually got number 1. Here's to selling well too!

Well the daily #1 wasn't questioned by anyone nor is it surprising tbh lol it's the weekly position. And Miduhyo same here xD

18,429 (Sungmo) and 17,315 (Ayu) are very close. But as Sungmo dropped from 1 to 9 today - selling even less than V6 and DCT - weekly number 1 seems to be safe for Ayu! V6 sold 3,068 yesterday, so if you assume they have sold the same number today, Sungmo's sales have to be eventually lower than 3k (because of lower ranking position).

Sungmo: 18,429 + 2k + 2k* + 2k* +2k* + 2k* + 2k* = 32k (optimistic prediction that his sales will be steady from now on)
Ayu: 17,315 + 8k* + 4k* + 2k* + 2k* + 2k* = 35k (pessimistic prediction)

Of course, things will be different if Ayu's 2nd day sales drop by much more than a half compared to first day sales. But thats not realistic, if you look at her other releases.

Nice!! Top 3 (hopefully #1) and +30k is what I'm expecting for 1st week :)

Hopefully it will get a weekly no.1!

so the #1 Weekly is really possible =)

I'm hoping for longevity sales...
Look at Ayaka or Chris Hart...their first day sales is not good...but the longevity keep the album alive and they can get higher sales...

Hoping for longevity for this album...as the promo will kick off a little late..

YAAAAAAAAS QUEEEN SLAY!!!! Omg :### i'm so happy ^^ and PRAY its #1 weekly that would be the best thing

Congrats to Ayu for getting #1 first day. :)

If this album sells well enough this week, it's going to be her first #1 album since LOVE again, right? That would be awesome. This EP is a masterpiece♥

Great news! It's been sometime since she gets no. 1 spot!

Ayu got #1 for the day, I'm....:faint:faint

"sixxxxxx" also gets no.1 in iTunes HK all genres chart!!!!

Yaay! No 1

wow i guess this week was wisely chosen by avex. so random, i guess
but good for ayu, sixxxxxx and #1 belongs together

Gosh, I might have overstated about Sungmo. Which means...

YAY! Ayu might have a chance for #1!!!

We've got some work to do here. But if Ayu can stay very consistent ahead of Sungmo throughout the week, she's going to get another #1 to her collection. Could be her first one since 2013 (!!!) - and this could be her greatest chance!

In all, Avex scheduled it at the right time. It's the start of a month that is going to be filled with releases to watch for - SKE48, miwa, Leo Ieir, AKB48, Rina Katahira for me - looks like a good start for Ayu right now.

Let's cross our fingers and see if she can stay consistent, outduel Sungmo and hold off Dreams Come True, since I still consider DCT a possible threat...

So happy for her. It'd be crazy if this album brings about some kind of huge comeback for her..

Omg I'm super happy for Ayu :heart

It will if she keeps the quality and image up! This release feels like a proper Ayu one, i.e. one I would have liked back in 2005. Her summer works always tended to be most magical! Good for her; she did the work and got recognition!

I highly doubt Sungmo will debut at #1. He's Korean, and his release is a debut mini.

That said, his sales will drop to nothing by the end of the week, so I don't expect him to top 25k first week, 30-35k overall.

Ayumi, I was a bit off with A ONE, but I'm going to shoot for sales in the 40k range, and my bet is on first week sales just over 25k.

What happened to members who don't care for chart positions?? Now suddenly they do :yes

^Shhh, be quiet. My secret can't be revealed yet. :'D

No, I just want to see if Ayu can still get a #1 weekly album. After all, she used to top all charts with almost every release back in the day. :)

It seems Japanese still love her so-called "old music style" more, or it's just because of the better promotion from avex this time. Either way, i really hope the sales won't drop too much in the following days. And ayu said thank you in her twitter. Can tell she is thrilled to be back to #1 again!

Don't have any idea who Sungmo is but JUHNO from 2PM recently released his album and sold 52k

Amen! I was like "I don't care about numbers but lets check this thread anywAAAAAAAYYYYYS!!!! NUMBER ONE! AYU IS NUMBER ONE!!!"
Lol
Let's hope for longetivity.

yay! congrats for no. 1 oricon chart!

You're right. 90% of his sales are in the first week. But I think he's on the rather odd side of successful Korean solo artists in Japan. His sales aren't the norm.

I guess we will have to see. As bad as this sounds, I don't think a Korean artist with zero longevity should beat out the Empress of J-Pop, but that's a personal preference. I hope Ayu has a #1 with sixxxxxx. I think she deserves it for at least one release this year.

It's because she picked a proper day to release without any huge competition :yes It still sold a bit less than A ONE.

Yay No 1 :luv2 I'm so happy for her

Hope it won't drop so much for today..

2nd day - #3 ; 5,232

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-05/

Oh no the drop is quiet hard..I hope when the promotion from SONGS and her tour broadcast kick off...it will help the sales...

What's good is that sungmo's is already out of the top 10 and he is the only threat to ayu right now.

Total sales are around 22,547 for ayu.

at least she's still in the top 3. sixxxxxx already sold 22,547 copies, it's probably going to reach 30,000 by the end of the week :yes

Ayu needs to get on TV more~ and promote songs that are worth promoting. The song she should've been doing a bunch is Summer diary. That's the true summer song on the album. Yet... we only got Step by step. Which came out months ago anyway. But, getting first day #1 is really great. If by a miracle she ends up with the weekly #1 that'd be amazing but I'm not counting on it xD

And the first position sold only 6,4k, this is going to be one of the poorest weeks at oricon

In a way it was a smart move for avex to release sixxxxxx this week as sales for most of the best albums which have been released the past few weeks are slowing down

I'm sure sixxxxxx would stand no chance if it was released 3 weeks ago

That said , it will be great sixxxxxx will be able to get #1 overall as I do feel this release deserves so

This is why it would be intersting to know the numbers from recochoku and iTunes. In the US Billboard they count Digital copies too not just physical ones (and before anyone comes again with the freaking 90% physical 10% digital in japan or whatever: it doesn't matter here and I heavily doubt this is true/this is probably outdated) which is a lot better of a system IMO. For all we know she could have the same numbers on iTunes as she does on Oricon, could also be worse of course but, we don't know. I find it increasingly difficult to tell if an album is doing well or not. Sure her physical sales aren't the greatest thing but what does she have digitally? No idea.

Sorry for the rant Oricon is going on my nerves and I agree with you tokyoxjapanxfan Summer Diary seems to be doing best out of the album tracks, not performing MOWY or SEASONS (snoozefest...) would have been better and doing summer diary instead

This. Ayu totally missed an opportunity to promote sixxxxx the right way. But oh well, Praying for 30k!! 3rd place isn't bad I mean she's still top 5 right!! :)

Why is ayu never promote new album on tv again? She used to perform tons in A BEST 2 era. :no

How much did her last minis sell?

^^ good question actually has she ever specified why she barely does performances anymore?

^ If you don't count LOVE and again the last comparison point is FIVE and you can't really compare these 2... FIVE was 2 weeks at #1 and sold over 200k total lol If you count LOVE and again:
LOVE: first week: 64k total: 94k
again: first week: 34k total: 53k

But that was in 2012 and LOVE had a strong tie-in

top 5!

^ Yeah, it's pretty hard to compare her releases two years ago with now. During that time again's sales were considered absolutely terrible...

The drop was worst than I expected. I still hope it reaches 30k on the first week.

I actually expected a worse drop lol

Rise up Sixxxxxx rise this is the beginning!!!

Well A ONE sold around 20,000 on the first day and then on the 2nd was #4 after an album that was #3 that sold around 8,000 on that day, so as for now sixxxxxx has the same trajectory as A ONE, just with smaller numbers.

A ONE 20,000 to less than 8,000 and sixxxxxxx 17,000 to 5,000.

yay!! :D

Sungmo out of top ten, that's good news. Ayu ahead of Dreams Come True...also good news. But the fact that the first place sold over 6,000, it could be anyone's game...

...but I'm predicting Ayu's numbers are now ahead of Sungmo. Hopefully...

The only thing we need is consistency. Hopefully she can still stay in the top three - or, better yet, back to #1. PLEASE!!!

Man... DCT is back to #1.

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Total Sales: 25,356

At least she went up to #2.

As for right now DCT doesn't threat ayu's #1 weekly.
And sungmo's album is out of the top 10 for 2 days already (today he is #17).

So as for now, sixxxxxx MIGHT be #1 weely, if there will be no surprises.

DCT sold 11k copies for last days of previous week, right? Sixxxxxx still might be #2 :gun

Hope that SONGS will help to boost

God it really needs a boost.. Praying for an increase on Saturday

watch DCT have another one of those: we miraculously sold 20k copies on saturday again days like every week so far -___-

This is good news, 30k seems for sure now :P still praying!! Jesus please help ayu.

I'm confident that she's going to get the #1!

Dreams Come True got #1...but by only 315 copies. Not bad. At least she's 2nd, so she's still consistent, and unless something unexpected happens, that shouldn't be really a problem...

I think we can get rid of the Sungmo equation right now.

:shakehead

But that reason alone...I don't think I should rule them out as a threat. Watch out comes Sunday if DCT still has gas, or if Ayu can hold them off...

Ayu keeps rising on the charts!!
This truly is the beginning!

Lol, this is too exciting. Up and down and up again! 8D I hope she'll beat DCT. Sixxxxxx is so good it deserves to top the charts imo.

I did my civic duty so hopefully she'll get #1

4th day - #2 ; 2,097

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-08-07/

Thank you!

Total Sales: 27,453

So it all depends on the next 2 days.
DCT is the only (right now) remote threat.

How much is DCT sales for this week? Hope ayu will get number 1... Atleast its safe to say that ayu sales in top 3 or Top 2..

Hm...is #1 weekly still possible? Fingers crossed...

4,221 + x + x + 3,124 + 2,984 = 10,329 (DCT so far)

If I have to guess...

4,221 + x (around 4,200) + x (around 3,900) + 3,124 + 2,984 = Around 18,429 for DCT

#1 is possible if DCT's sales stay constant...
Over 30k on the first week is definitely going to happen though :)

Oh no. Ayu has this. Ayu will be #1. DCT's Saturday spikes should be over now. They may bring in 5 to 8k but with 18k sales, they would have to net 40% of their week's sales on Saturday. Not seeing it...

steady!

Let's hope SONGS tonight gives her a boost!

#1 is very likely to happen!

If SONGS will give any boost, and TV performances don't usually do so, we would see it 2 more days since it's night in Japan and the show starts 30 minutes before midnight so people would buy it a day afterwards.

I'm aware of that? I said the SONGS performance was tonight, not the she would get a sales boost from it tonight. :rolleyes

Well, that actually wasn't only for you since iirc there were people (maybe in the songs thread) that wondered if it would give her a big sunday boost, but it's for monday if at all.

I think she's got this in the bag. I'm only sad that this will most certainly be her last #1 if she does get it.

I dunno about that, I think it will just depend on scheduling and what the release is. It'll be much harder for Ayu to get #1 with singles nowadays but when it comes to albums, it's mostly a matter of releasing strategically to get the #1. If it's a compilation album, I think #1 is in the bag for sure.

Stay strong and steady sixxxxxx!
Number 1 here we come. 30k.

I don't think her recent positions and sales would support that.

2012 Party Queen - #2 98k
2012 A SUMMER BEST - #2 83k
2012 LOVE - #4 65k
2012 again - #7 34k
2013 LOVE again - #1 53k
2014 Colours - #5 39k
2015 A ONE - #4 35k
2015 sixxxxxx - ?? ~30k

She's had only one #1 release in 4 years, and her last compilation, A SUMMER BEST, sold 15k less the first week than the studio album released that same year, which had never happened for Ayu.

I'm pretty confident that sixxxxxx would be the last #1, unless Ayu did a cover album that blew up like JUJU or BENI. But with her sales continuing to fall, and this current week being one of the historically lowest ever in traditional sales for Japan, I truly doubt there will be another #1... even if it were A BEST 3 or A COMPLETE 2.

A Classical also hit #1 in 2013.

Super true. But that was with FW sales of 25k. It was also a remix album, so you're right. It's possible. I just don't think it's likely at all with how low her average sales are.

Maybe Ayu would have huge sales with a cover album? What are your thoughts?

I think the SONGS performance will not give any change to ayu's sales.

1. It aired almost midnight, some people already sleep at that time. Only her fans will definitely wait to watch the performance.. Maybe some people watched it.

2. She only performed 1 new song that is Step by Step. And we know some people already got tired with that song, because every week they hear it as an opening and closing for the drama. If she performed summer diary, or shape of love or another new song maybe it will give a little bit effect..

So i think this performance will not give any effect to ayu's sales.. But who know isf miracle happen..

And for the marketing team, they look like not to try hard to promote this album.. I know they put it in some line of the train in Japan. But they didn't put it in the crowded train such as yamanote line, or keio line... And also when i'm in shibuya before i didn't see any of ayu billboard in the famous or crowded place in there.

I dont want to bring another singer, but i have to say if namie can put the billboard in shibuya station ( hachiko exit) and in somewhere inside the shibuya station to promote her new album and new tour. Why not Ayu also did the same? They already planned to release this album faraway.. Why don't they booked the place to promote her new album?

@stivenoto my thoughts exactly.
I think that avex might not want to invest so much in Ayu even though she used to be their biggest artist. So probably they cut her promotion budget, composers budget, mixing etc, but not her tour which still brings lots of income.

I dont know how big is her influence on Avex nowadays, maybe it was just her trying to be "modest"? No idea.

I think the low sales is part of her relevance and part promotion. Look at Namie, she somehow managed to comeback with new musical style and people still know and buy her stuffs despite less performance in TV (i think mostly only endorsements right?)

I hope Ayu would do more appearances other than concerts, like TV CMs or better, TV live. Even though she said she doesnt care about sales, she has to at one point or no one is left to hear her voice. I'm wishing her next release is a BIG one and hit more than 100K sales.

Sorry for the rant :p Congrats to sixxxxxx anyway, it was a good release. hoping for a #1 weekly.

Okay, now this is where I'm starting to get really concerned. The gap between DCT and Ayu was larger... :headache

What's going to happen if DCT's gap goes even wider on the next two days??? I have to wonder...why is DCT still on a hot streak recently, much like Southern All Stars back in April???

But yeah, I heard the Saturday spikes have dropped off... Maybe I shouldn't worry very much, but let's see in a few hours what happens...

I guess that's typical for bands that have been around since the 80s. Probably because most of their fans are more used to buying physical copies since they're older. Plus there's a lot of hype this year since DCT will be having their Wonderland 2015 dome tour that happens every 4 years.

Nice to see sixxxxxx performing relatively well charts-wise though. Even if she doesn't get #1 it will probably be a close fight!

yes... Some people i met here know that i am ayu's fans.. The most question i got " did ayu still release new songs? " So i think with good promotion ayu still able to get high sales.. If they just do like this, ayu will not gain more popularity..

Ayu can said she doesn't care about sales. But part of the money she got some of it from the album sales. So i don't really think that ayu doesn't really care about it at all.

Promotion, promotion is what everybody says will help. No record company will WASTE MONEY promoting an irrelevant artist. It happened to namie back when her sales weren't good. Though namie has never sold as bad as ayu :no. Namie got a abundance in promotion after PLAY happened, not before. Is kumi getting promotion currently?? No!! She's irrelevant too. I love all 3 but that's the industry.

Anyways!! totally praying for a boost after SONGS :D.

#3 1,749 ｓｉｘｘｘｘｘｘ AVT 15/8/5
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Total 29,202. Expecting 31k for the first week.

You don't follow charts daily for a long time do you? Well if you did you would know that A LOT of her last releases didn't debut at #1 because they were released on hard dates. If you go back on the ranking threads of those releases you will see how she would have got #1's if she had released her stuff with a little bit of strategy. A ONE for example would have got #1 if it was released one week after its original release date. And sixxxxxx is only getting #1 because there's not much competition this week.

Problem is: DCT sold 4.229 on the same day! :teek

Should we really be concerned about this????? Has anyone kept count?

ayu is at 29,202 and DCT should be around 22,729
If ayu sell 1,000 tomorrow for example, DCT has to sell around 7,000-8,000 in order to pass her.