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Ayumi's Relationships
I was reading some past articles and I havent really been keeping up with her many relationships but know Im all curious.
I know she had that long relationship with another singer (cant remember his name). Then there was Mannie and Maro... Did she ever date Shuya? (What happened to by the way?) Then the last thing I think I can remember was she married some unknown guy?? A list with years dated would be nice please!! Thanks! |
She was with Tomoya Nagase (from TOKIO, a JE group) until 2007. They knew each other in their teen years. I think the generally accepted belief was they were together about 7 years, but I'm not sure if we have official confirmation.
Then there wasn't really much news about anyone, as far as I recall. She met Mannie in 2010 filming the Love Songs PVs. They married in 2011. They divorced early 2012. Then Maro was a blip on the radar around the LOVE again days. They announced the relationship end of 2012. They broke up shortly thereafter in early 2013. She got engaged to Tyson end of 2013, after dating for less than a year, I believe. They married in 2014. And then they divorced end of 2016. Shu-ya was never in the equation, as far as anyone knows. It was always part of the rumor mill because of their on-stage acts and chemistry. But I just don't see that one, to be honest. |
^ There was the JaeJoong (from TVXQ and JYJ) rumour between Nagase and Mannie hahah https://lovetohateme.wordpress.com/2...with-jaejoong/
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^ There was also a rumor that Timmy was her boyfriend at some point. LOL. I don't take them seriously.
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Shuya, he took a break for a little bit, did he ever come back? Im trying to remember if he was in the 15th anniversary and I think he was there? |
Shu-ya had a break sometime around the Cirque de Minuit tour, then came back for 2 MVs and a few performances, and then left for good iirc
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Yes, Shu-ya left before CdM, I believe. Then he starred with Ayu in Summer Diary PV, and returned for the TA Tour in 2015. He stayed for MIT CDL, but I can't remember if he was in MIJ or not. As of TA Tour 2016 he was definitely gone.
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Thats so sad. :(
Oh well. Thanks for he info! |
He definitely left before MIJ, I don't remember when exactly though. He also did the Winter Diary MV with Ayu.
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Shu-ya was definitely in the 15th anniversary. He even got a solo during "No Way to Say"
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Wait, she's single again? Poor Ayu. The last thing I remember was her dating that cute medical student.
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^She already married and divorced him
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^She married him but they divorced last year
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Shuya left at 2014 before Premium Showcase. Return after Summer diary and left again at 2016 before MIJ. I miss him
Some time ago I saw at his instagram photo with Maro |
By the time "Voyage" PV was released, I was hoping that Ayu and Iseya Yusuke could have ended up together. But nope. Just a wishful thinking!
Shuya has been Ayu's love team ever since. Ironically, they didn't end up together although they've been paired most of the time. Oh Well. |
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I also believe she had something with Max Matsuura too btw.
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I'd say Max is sort of the father figure she never had which is more of a parental type love than anything else.
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There's the rumour that Ayu get into Avex because she dated Max. There's a picture of them supposedly kissing during that time but for me the picture is just a funny pose lol
http://i.imgur.com/yiRlwaQ.jpg |
I doubt Ayu had any thing more than a mentor/friend relationship with Max Matsuura. Sounds like made up rumors to me.
But I also miss Shuya, I think he will always be my favorite.:yes |
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Plus I always thought Shuya was gay? Oh well. To be honest, out of all her relationships, her relationship with Maro was the only messy one in my opinion. |
i think ayu and Tyson has not officially divorsed? they are separated iirc
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^ Avex made a report that they didn't actually divorce and said that perhaps they can talk this out and change their minds, but later Ayu posted on TA and clarified that she had actually applied for a divorce
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Her last divorce was pretty sad to me. :( It always makes me sad when people can't work through it but then of course there's no real knowing what was happening under the surface.
But, anyway...I actually kind of believe the rumors about her and Max, but only because it's kind of conspiracy theory-ish and I go crazy for those. Also, that rumor about her and JaeJoong is news to me! |
I do believe Max and her had an affair... But not that she dated him because of that, most likely they dated and he saw star power on her.
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I'm more inclined to think that she thought he was an odd man at the time and she was never really looking for a relationship but he kept trying to recruit her regardless. The Ayu of the early/mid 90s seemed like a girl who would not want to get involved with some talent scout.
http://ayusstory.blogspot.de/2010/05...log-entry.html It seemed like she had a bit of a big head at the time, haha. Love reading that blog entry. It's kind of amazing how far she came from a lot of TV producers saying she would never make it. |
Yeah, I was reading over her early years and I think the reason why she blew up the way she did was because no one expected her.
Like her first couple of singles were just blah. (Sales wise) But her album to be number 1 for 4 weeks and selling over a million copies... like... WHY? she people just got interested in her. lol |
I think I remember reading once that when he first started interacting with Ayu she was not even interested in talking with him and was skeptical about everything. But because he was persistent, he was able to persuade her to let him guide her to a music career. She was initially suspicious of him but ultimately decided to see where it would take her.
I can't remember where I read something like this though.:dead2 |
I was all for Ayu x Mannie until hr released that bizarro book which was "for her" but also went on sale to the public.
I just hope she finds her happiness, whether that's in marriage or through her music or being with friends and loved ones. |
^What was the photoshoot again?
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I really liked Tyson! Seemed like she and Tyson really liked each other! I remember when I saw him walking thru the crowd during Arena Tour CdM at Saitama and really thought that he must be very proud of Ayu to go watch her concert (while wearing the goodies sweater). <3
Mannie was nice as well but sometimes he seemed to take advantage of Ayu's fame (not saying that's a bad thing tho). But in the end only Ayu and her partners knows how their relationship flowed. |
Thats so cute going to get concert. lol
That must have been one of the first concerts. |
^Yeah! It was the second day of CdM Tour! <3
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maro was ayu's biggest mistake and it's the first time her music suffered as a result.
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He was too involved in the 'music' side with being on the 'again' cover and showing up on some questionable PVs for that era too. It was a bit too much IMO.
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It was literally slammed in our face. I never really cared for him either in concerts. He was also so dramatic.
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Besides her first relationship, they all seemed messy to me. Maybe with the exception of Tyson, but even he had some drama when Ayu was at some event. I even find Timmy to be a source of drama lmao.
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OMG. timmy... when you forget about him he gets slammed right back in the front. lol
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It helped that she barely ever said anything about Tomoya and was never really seen with him compared to the relationships that came after. That said, she was more about "private is private" in those days compared to the Twitter/social media Ayu after 2010.
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I do find it odd that she was in a relationship with that man for what 7 years and we barely know anything about it...
But her last 3 we know basically EVERYTHING. But I also feel like she had something stable for so long she was just experimenting with the other 3. Just wish she didn't run off and get married every 5 seconds. |
I don't know what's the point here but is posting pictures on Twitter or Instagram or been seem holding hands exposing too much?? I don't think Ayu really exposed a lot of her relationships to us (besides posting pictures with her love one just like a normal person do).
Mannie was featured on her music video before they date, the photoshoot he did had nothing to do with her, the only thing we knew about them was pictures kissing and walking on the airport. For me Maro seemed more like a model she used on PVs and album covers more than "I'm gonna make a lot of stuff with the love of my life". It could be anyone tbh lol But the guy was a mess.... And with Tyson it was very private relationship. We never even knew how she communicated with Mannie and Tyson. So I don't think her relationships were that exposed as a lot of people like to point... |
Is it confirmed her and Tyson are divorced? I thought they were just separated?
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i'm so sad she ended up divorcing Tyson :no they were so goodlooking couple. Mannie and Maro did not look good imo. does Tyson have ig btw? |
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"Omg ayu st0p shoving ur private life on faces!1! why u so desperate!1!" Basically :P |
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https://vimeo.com/groups/4693/videos/15449630 It's from 6 years ago! Probably from his college time. |
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This also came at the same time as Ayu joining social media openly and posting often. It went from zero to one hundred really fast in terms of how much she shared with her fans, and it was within the same era of her including romantic partners in her work. It was a breakneck 180 from her past standard of 'private is private' so I think there is a lot more to it than people just overreacting to a marriage news notice. Personally... I think Ayu went through a really hard time post-2010 and it showed in her work and how she approached communicating about her relationships at the time. She changed a lot of her core points about how transparent she was about her private life and Party Queen's release in 2012 also explored a very dark, lonely theme which I don't think was just shook off after the album itself. I like Ayu being open, but I feel her oversharing in the past came from her feeling alone, and her being more in control of what she acknowledges now is because she feels more comfortable again in her private life and boundaries. But I'm just assuming of course :laugh |
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I think the relationships that followed were with more "average" men, because it allowed Ayu more freedom in the relationships as it relates to the public eye. And to anyone who thinks she over-shared, I would really question if you understand the dynamics of a serious relationship. Because, trust, we know very little about her intimate life. Maro was an anomaly and became heavily featured in everything (but as a character, as part of the plot -- not as an individual per se). But other than that, the most we really get are some sightings of her with her man at the airport or some event together, MAYBE a random picture or two on Instagram/Twitter...but even Tyson, you can probably count one one hand how many pictures she has shared. And we still have no idea why they divorced, which is pretty telling. |
^Exactly. Their relationship was low profile because it was kinda of dangerous to both of them. It could turn really bad to both of them.
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The book has partial nudity so if that offends please don't click the link (nothing extreme, thankfully). http://aramatheydidnt.livejournal.co...xpand=1#cutid1 |
^ unfortunately lol
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I would like to have this book ^^
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Wasnt there another book with ayumi and her troop? Like Super ayu or something |
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If you read the entire post, my point was that it was oversharing... for Ayu's standards, plus it came at a time where she was suddenly all over social media. It went very fast from private Team Ayu blog posts to being able to talk, meet, and share with fans worldwide directly. That on top of her partners being in music videos, album covers, and her work being very focused on a saturated love theme (LOVE, again, LOVE again, Love Songs) just represents a very messy time in Ayu's life. I think there is an interview where she confessed she had blurred the lines between personal and work life and I would agree to that. It's not about not knowing the gritty details. I said it all in a neutral way since I don't judge Ayu for what she shared, or how she dealt with anything. At most I think her throwing a ripped picture of herself and Mannie into the music video for Return Road (which was post-divorce) was a bit underhanded... but it's her career, and I know pretty much zero about her as a person and her life. We have little bits from her social media but no real context and I won't pretend to. However, I was trying to give a bit of background as to why you will hear fans saying she 'overshared' or that her relationships dictated her career path too much. For a little while she did let it represent her image, and it's still recent enough for people to talk about it. To clarify, I don't think her relationship with Tyson contributed to this image. It was a low-key and private affair. |
^ I did read your post right before I wrote mine, which is probably why I unintentionally used the same word. And I totally see where you are coming from, and appreciate the thought that went behind your response -- I just don't agree with it all (which is totally fine). And to be clear, I don't think your statements were harsh or judging, unlike some other people (both in the general internet world, as well as even some members here). And I see your distinction of overshare vs. overshare for Ayu, but I just can't look at it that way, because for the most part it is the minimal amount of information.
With Mannie, they met while he was working on her videos and then started dating -- not the other way around. So while that may seem like she was showing him off, once they actually got together there was very little known about them as a couple, and very little of them together was ever shown or seen. Maro, as I mentioned, was another story altogether and was a hot mess. I remember the fans complained because he was even so prominently featured in HLS tour, so she decreased his role there. But, by and large, I think she has gotten a bad reputation for her social media actions. She hasn't shown off too much. Yes, she has bit back at some people who attacked her, or wrote cryptic messages when she was having some emotional moments, but I think she still has a very private life outside of her fame. So to make this long post longer, I just think it is unfair of people who do judge her harshly for her actions, and I think much of it comes from people who may not have the personal experience to realize just how much more she could be sharing, but isn't. Edit: I also just want to add that people who compare the stark contrast between her earlier career and more recent years also need to take the context into account, at least to some extent. The internet was not as pervasive, social media wasn't really a thing, the idea of "celebrity" was different. It was easier to do things in private. Now, everything is accessible online, information flows much more freely, things go viral, and it's nearly impossible to be a celebrity and do something completely anonymously without people finding out. |
Thanks for the reply. To be honest, I have the feeling Ayu regrets a lot of how she dealt with Mannie and Maro, which is why we have seen as little Tyson as we have during their marriage. I think it was the first time she could really be independent with talking about her relationships and have the autonomy to involve them in her career the way she did, and wasn't thinking as critically as she would have to if they had been, as an example, a Japanese celebrity like Tomoya. In regards to Mannie being in the music videos before they were a couple - I personally believe they became a couple during the planning and recording of them, as they married very soon after their release. I think she could have edited or rerecorded them if she had wanted to keep him out of her career given their changed relationship, but it was her decision not to.
The reason I'm neutral is because I am aware of how much she could have shared, and that is why I moved the distinction to it's over-sharing for Ayu. She was always very 'private is private' back in the day and so I think it alienated a lot of her older fans about how she changed her stance on that. It's the old adage of not meeting your heroes and some people had an image of her that was different from reality. It's what celebrities build their fandoms off, and although I have enjoyed this new era of Ayu's image in its own ways, it's not like I can't understand where people are coming from either. I think it's unfair to accuse people of not having personal relationship experience if they disagree with Ayu's career choices in regards to including her partners. It makes the discussion a bit too personal, so I felt encouraged to balance it out a bit with some context - even if I don't agree with this point of view entirely. As for your last point, I think we underestimate exactly how much Ayu is in control of what goes on her social media. Tyson and her have been very private despite her being as active as ever, and if she hadn't included Maro on album covers or Mannie in music videos (both with himself and with a photo) then I don't think there would have been so much gossip. She made the decision to do that and there's pros and cons to that, like with any decision that changes an artist's image. As a tl;dr for the long post, I think generally a better phrase to use than over-share would be that people would like more coherence in her meshing of professional and personal life. The fact her two messiest relationships were those that factored in her career at the time has just led some to have a very negative view on Ayu continuing to include her partners. The failed relationships led to a lot of negative media, and due to them being highlighted in her work, the media was all over it. I think a lot of fans secretly (or not so secretly) wish for Ayu to have a more positive image in Japan and are worried this sort of thing works against that. People generally take Ayu a lot less seriously these days and it's mostly due to the LOVE again - Love Songs era and the string of quick marriages. Ultimately it's none of our damn business lol, but we're a forum so pretty much everything gets discussed to the last detail. Things affecting her popularity in Japan are generally up for a lot of dissecting even if it's about something we don't know much about. |
If you really think about it, Ayu is a famous "blogger".
Ayu became a huge blogger in a time before blogging could ever be considered a full-time job. If Ayu didn't update fans through her blog / fanclub / social networks probably her career would never be so big or last so long. Posting things, personal or not, is a huge part of her brand. Sometimes oversharing or posting shocking news (marriage/divorce) may hurt her public image but it's still building her brand. |
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But I personally don't think her "oversharing" was a big deal :laugh |
I think the Twitter back and forth between them was kind of the worst it got to like with the picture of the shower. It was like... oh my god Ayu, really? (I believe it was Mannie who replied to the shower image)
But aside from that it was never really that big of a deal. However, I would say compared to the "Ayu" of before, it was like a complete 180 from her usual "private" life. Just in the span of the early 2010s (2010-2012), she'd had more relationship related 'news' than the first 10 years of her career. I know the Internet/Twitter/etc. had a lot to do with it but to most people who may not really follow Ayu, it would seem like all that she gets into the news for nowadays is her relationships and how they're not very long lasting. |
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If my s/o did something like that, it would NOT be okay. |
^ Yeah. The dancers agreed to do a nude photoshoot that would become a book that would be a gift for Ayu but then Leslie put it on sale and Ayu get mad about it (because her dancers didn't agreed on that). But I don't know the name of the book. It wasn't Super Ayu ( I think).
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I wanna see the book! lol...
That whole time was a mess for her. |
I think it wasn't a book but a video iirc? And he took it down after Ayu complained. I think he also wanted to use the photos for an exhibition or something, but I'm not sure.
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When they did the shoot, it was supposed to be a book for Ayu but he used it in a photo exhibition.
Also Mannie put some copies of SUPER MANNIE on eBay with his autograph. |
^He's so gross.
I remember seeing some of the photos of the dancers but I cant remember where. |
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thank you for sharing! I'm so grateful that ayu met Max :laugh btw there's a mistake in a translation. Max actually said "selling music is not that easy you know”. |
Yeah, I think it was later corrected but not in that entry on that site.
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