Did Lady Dynamite PV made "many people" lose interest on Ayu?
 

I was reading the site eneabba and on the screenshots page for the "Lady Dynamite" PV there is this text:

"This is the video that made many people loose any interest in what Ayu will be singing next. "

http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videocl...y_Dynamite.htm

I don't recall people being mad or dissapointed with the PV, but maybe I'm wrong and actually "many people" lost interest on Ayu after that.
Do ya'll remember the reaction of fans back then?

^I don't know how many people left the fandom at the time, but it did generate some drama. There is/was a lot of homophobic people in Ayu fandom.

Starting from GREEN, every Ayu video that touched lgbt issues got less and less drama, so either people left the fandom or got used to it.

^ You mean GREEN got bad reactions from people? :O

I remember a person who had a fansite dedicated to ayu (and another singer i forgot the name of) saying she won't update her website any further because Ayumi was going against her faith in Jesus Christ and therefore she will stop listening to her lmao
I can't find the website anymore but this was hilarious to read

That was the vague reasoning for Nick ceasing all updates on eneabba as well iirc. Intolerance is an ugly, ugly thing.

I appreciated eneabba, it was an amazing website but I think he’s just closed minded.
I remember that he kept making it a big deal, he kept going in different threads saying the same shit.

GREEN if I remember it right (damn! it has been 10 years @_@) get the whole "I don't think it was a love story" thing that happens when people don't want to see lgbt content.

People really disliked the video direction, but pretty much every video of the director was bashed.

I even opened a thread at the time Lady Dynamite caused controverse to discuss Ayu's representation of lgbt subjects on her work, but it was closed cuz it was considered a too controversial theme for the forum at the time.

I don't remember anything like that happening.:confused
If there was backlash I think it was a vocal minority. Either way, the Lady Dynamite video isn't even a big deal. Ayu has always included sensitive themes in her career in a very tasteful way in my opinion. She never forces anything upon us or comes off as preachy.
I'd say the biggest blows to her career were Bold & Delicious/Pride, missunderstood covers, getting married/divorced, leaving Japan, and Party Queen.

If I recall the thing that set nick over the edge about the entire Lady Dynamite PV was the scene in the bathroom where the two guys are at the urinal lol

"many people" = "me"

It's not really any deeper than that lol Honestly he really overreacted and that was more controversial among fans at the time than even the PQ cover art!

I swear I've seen him written "me" instead of "many people"

^ Me too! I remember it was written "me"

I remember that site! I believe it was also a site dedicated to Hitomi Shimatani, if I'm remembering correctly

But yeah, Eneabba dude was the only one I remember who was really pressed about the Lady Dynamite PV (mostly just the urinals). Sucks because I loved his site and still use it as a resource from time to time, but homophobia isn't cool. LD isn't a super great video and is probably one of Ayu's "trashiest" but if you don't like it, just move on and watch some of her other videos instead lmao.

I actually just rewatched the Lady Dynamite video and some of my memory came back to me. I do remember some backlash in the youtube comments all those years ago. I know I was a bit shocked back then too but I just kind of got over it and moved on. It didn't bother me too much because it just looked like an American music video but with Ayu and tons of men everywhere.:laugh
I use eneabba often. He didn't mention anything like that as a reason for no longer updating the site. In fact I think he writes that he still owns Ayu's stuff and still listens to her. I would be a bit sad if this is the real reason he left the fandom. Was there anything specifically that he said that was homophobic? I don't think not liking the Lady Dynamite video equals homophobia.:dead2

Just because I'm gay doesn't mean I'm forced to like all things LGBTQ-related in her videos. I mean, I LOVE "how beautiful you are", the video is incredibly gorgeous and the instrumental and the background vocals are the best thing Timmy has ever done with Ayu (which is kind of a miracle after the hot mess that Party Queen turned out to be)... but back to "Lady Dynamite", the video feels so reductive and cheap that I'm not surprised people started losing interest in her because of it.

I recall Sunrise/Sunset being a disaster, too. Mind you, I freaking love those covers I also live for everything about Bold & Delicious/Pride. That single is when I started to really pay attention to Ayu.

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I remember that saga Lady Dynamite/nick saga lol. He never out-right said that he was homophobic, but that's the vibe that I got from reading his posts. I mean, perhaps people started losing interest in Ayu at that time (RnRC was the point at which my interest declined), but I honestly got the vibe from nick that he really didn't like the gay aspects of the video.

I actually vaguely remember this being a concern back when the video came out. It kind of shocked me, but by that time, I had mostly stopped watching her PVs anyway.

Anytime I find a video of hers to be uncomfortable, I just pretend it doesn't exist, like XOXO or WARNING. I think those made wayyyy more uncomfortable than Lady Dynamite. I honestly think the most shocking part of LD were the costumes...XDD

This too! I still don't like the Sunrise/Sunset covers.:laugh
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I did some digging and found some Lady Dynamite history.:)
http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread...namite&page=23

http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread...=lady+dynamite

it was the scans site japaneseprincess. they had the scans up there for us to take until last year but they also deleted the site recently lol.

there's a lot of intolerant people in the fandom so I don't get that surprised.

it's ugly though

I do remember some Japanese fans not liking the song. But during rock and circus, the song grew on most due to the spectacular performance.

I think the Japanese fans concerns were lyric based.
Homophobia is not that present here. Not to say it doesn't exist, but culturally there isn't as big a stigma against it.

Plus it was comically presented. That entire video is almost a parody lol. It's completely over the top.

Lyrically though it's quite... meh? Like, she was known for deep lyrics and the lyrics were not deep at all lol.

Personally if you're ok with a girl displaying her naked body for an album cover, and young woman depicting prostitutes and a flood of "milk", I think two men staring at each other in a bathroom shouldn't be that big a deal lol.

And the tour performance of it was, for me, one of the highlights. It really got the crowd jumping~

^ The lyrics argument is valid but it's not like it was the very first time her lyrics weren't deep? I mean Sparkle lyrics aren't deep either.

^ I agree, but Sparkle also isn't very highly regarded in Japan either haha xD it was far more popular amongst the international fans

I'm actually a little bit too lazy to search for it,
but I had a discussion with nick some years ago here on AHS...
He was really mad about my honest words towards him.
Shortly after this discussion he changed the "official reason" why he stopped updating...
His original reason was definitely homophobic shit...

Anyway...
I can't remember Lady Dynamite PV getting a lot of hate...
I think it was just overshadowed by Sexy little things/Microphone and Don't look back PVs.

It was literally just him being homophobic, saying stuff like there are questionable scenes in the men's bathroom etc and he will no longer support Ayu because of it.

I mean really. Who doesn't consider Ayu a gay icon anyway?

I do think the lyrics are pretty ok for their purpose of being a empowering song for women and (after the video) gay men. It's pretty much saying "we are going to live our lifes as we want, even if thats bothers you", what is not only a good message for those kind of songs as also a recurrent lyrical theme for Ayu.

Or did people had problem with the wording, like in Sparkle?

Yeah, this sound like homophobia to me.

http://www.eneabba.net/ayu/video/vid...y_Dynamite.htm

He even says the song is good.

I remembered back then when Lady Dynamite PV was released , the only thing I remembered from that time was the remarks nick made & they were quite insensitive

I didn't joined in the conversation cos I know things would get bad as some people on here can get very opinionated

Ayu is a big LGBTQ supporter & champions such rights a great deal . Even the staff she works with , some are gay as well

Anyway yes it's true that Lady Dynamite PV was controversial to some extent but for those who don't want to watch the PV , you can choose not to . I mean some of Ayu's recent PVs are so bad that I only bother to watch it just once & that's it

End of the day I don't think the PV is the main reason on why 'many people' lost interest on Ayu , it's a myriad of different factors which EndOfTheWorld listed some of them down & I feel Lady Dynamite PV is not 1 of them

The worst part of Lady Dynamite was that orange fur coat...!

I remember eneabba completely overreacting to it and as one of the best resources that was a shame but if he is homophobic then he is best out of the Ayu fandom.

It was sad to see Nick from eneabba leave like that, but I respect his decisions.

and Lady Dynamite is awesome period. Bye Felicia to those who cannot accept it.

really a pity :(

Was this a big deal back in 2010? These days you have RuPaul's Drag Race that makes the Lady Dynamite PV look like Playschool.

I don't think he really "gets" Ayu. That sexy & fierce image he's going for just doesn't suit her.
And the Mirrorcle World PV is atrocious. LOL It could've been SO GOOD, though.

I have only watched the Lady Dynamite PV once, but it probably was one of his better ones? I can't really remember. Though I don't know why he makes her act so weird. In the beginning of the GREEN PV she walks as if she was going to get a contagious illness from the people around her. lol

As for the lyrics, they don't have to be deep to have a message. ^_-

^I do like all of his videos :P MW is his weakest one IMO.

Yeah, I've been following Ayu's career closely since the release of glitter/fated and I don't remember many people being mad at Lady Dynamite for its LGBTQ theme. As many people already mentioned, that text from eneabba is purely Nick's personal reason behind his loss of interest in Ayu. He already explained himself saying that he doesn't support that "lifestyle" and doesn't like that Ayu "promotes" it in her music videos.