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PURIN 12th December 2004 08:36 PM

walking proud for ayu's dad
 
if you look at the lyrics carefully..kind of suggest someone like her father
u guys aggree?

Coelacanth 13th December 2004 04:48 AM

Yeah, it does seem like it's about some type of father-figure... :yes

yamogi 13th December 2004 04:51 AM

i don't think so,it should be talking about herself, the 'you' should not means there is a person
because ayu' relationship with father is very bad

Kazuko 13th December 2004 05:37 AM

i don't know... but i'll have to go w/ yamogi.. i don't think so. XP

RebornLS 13th December 2004 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by yamogi
i don't think so,it should be talking about herself, the 'you' should not means there is a person
because ayu' relationship with father is very bad

try non-exiostant

yukiko 13th December 2004 06:06 AM

i think it does sound kinda like it........ i think some of Ayu's songs do reflect on her dad like Teddy Bear foe example.

kournikova 13th December 2004 06:12 AM

mmm.. dunno... but i think in that song for me... she's kind of telling story to someone ^^..but again..dunno... (confused)

liechin 13th December 2004 06:41 AM

i dun think that the song is for her father~~~!!

Echiko 13th December 2004 06:51 AM

mmm..hard to say. I guess pushing it it can alittle be...

Qt Mashi 13th December 2004 06:51 AM

hmmm shes got a hidden message in alot of her songs :thud

extepan 13th December 2004 09:50 AM

she doenst even know what her father looks like, apparently. so i guess it could not be about him.

PURIN 13th December 2004 05:00 PM

but if you read the beginning , says some thing about lies
i dont know.. i kinda thought a song for xx had something to do with her father , well mainly her childhood life

yulen 13th December 2004 05:39 PM

does anyone else find it interesting that despite the fact that ayu is famous her father has never surfaced?? maybe he's dead...?

devilayu 13th December 2004 06:07 PM

The thing is, if he did go on news shows going, "I'm Ayumi Hamasaki father!" everyone would know he was doing it for either the fame or the money. He doesn't win in either situation since Ayumi probably has a grudge or maybe doesn't want to meet him again. He abandoned her for whatever reasons and it looks like it's staying that way.

T-Z333 13th December 2004 06:42 PM

Wait... Wasn't Ayu's dad dead? Wasn't Memorial Address dedicated to him, and wasn't that the reason why she cried during Arena Tour? notice the fact that she sung it just after Teddy Bear, another song that is dedicated to him, so it would make sense, wouldn't it?
"I wanted you to tell me, didn't care if it was a lie, that you deffinitely loved me, just once is all I ask"

Hugo_Perry 13th December 2004 06:53 PM

I think it's 'bout how she always looked up to a person. I dun't see it's her father that she'll looked up to because she said she doesn't have much memories 'bout him. Well... 'Bout her lips created a lie might be because in the past she wanna be the person she always looked up to because of her own foolish self that thin it was to protect. Till today, she didn't find her real self, but nufin' seem to be done she'll live on the present. Walkin' on her life today. :luv2 I love the lyric...

yulen 13th December 2004 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by devilayu
The thing is, if he did go on news shows going, "I'm Ayumi Hamasaki father!" everyone would know he was doing it for either the fame or the money. He doesn't win in either situation since Ayumi probably has a grudge or maybe doesn't want to meet him again. He abandoned her for whatever reasons and it looks like it's staying that way.

well he obviously didn't have enough scruples to abandon her in the first place, why should he hesitate to say such a thing? it's kind of of curious is all...

Manross 13th December 2004 07:56 PM

im kinda curious...so cany sumone tell me more abt ayu's dad? thanks! :)

_CREA_ 13th December 2004 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by extepan
she doenst even know what her father looks like, apparently. so i guess it could not be about him.

I thought she did? I'm pretty sure I read that he left when she was a "toddler"...which is probably somewhere around 5-ish? Either way, she would have seen him...whether or not she remembers what he looks like, though, is another story.

Also, I thought she didn't even know if he was dead or alive?

SunshineSlayer 13th December 2004 10:10 PM

I think Walking Proud is about herself.

A Song for Xx is about her mother and Teddy Bear and Memorial Address are about her father.

yulen 13th December 2004 10:33 PM

well i'm just speculating...out of curiousity...

extepan 14th December 2004 01:17 AM

indeed ayu doesnt know if her father is dead or alive

Queen Bee 14th December 2004 05:38 AM

I personally think Replace is more for her dad and walking proud is for herself.

gogirlanime 14th December 2004 02:21 PM

I thought that, honestly, the second I heard the song title, I knew she was singing for her dad, because in Japan a family has much honor in their name, and they take pride in anything they do in their family name "Hamasaki" and since her father is gone, and because she's been so successful, and because the father in a family is considered most important in Japan, who else would she be "walking proud" for?

SunshineSlayer 14th December 2004 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gogirlanime
who else would she be "walking proud" for?

Herself. Maybe it's about her Grandmother or something, I don't know. I just don't see her looking up to her father for anything.

yys113 14th December 2004 05:41 PM

For those people who say ayumi dedicate song to his father, do you guys realize he's the one who abandon ayu's family? I've read this article once about ayu watching his father leaving one night and stuff like that and she didn't know what happen. I'm not too sure about the whole details since it's quite long ago.

CRAZYBOAT 19th December 2004 03:27 AM

I doubt Ayu would write a song about her father. I remember reading an article about how much she hates her dad because how he abandoned the family without saying anything. And besides, she doesn't even remember anything about him. I dont' think anybody knows why the dad left the home, but i would like to know.

Ayu's life is such a mystery eh?

Rickumi 19th December 2004 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Z333
Wait... Wasn't Ayu's dad dead? Wasn't Memorial Address dedicated to him, and wasn't that the reason why she cried during Arena Tour? notice the fact that she sung it just after Teddy Bear, another song that is dedicated to him, so it would make sense, wouldn't it?
"I wanted you to tell me, didn't care if it was a lie, that you deffinitely loved me, just once is all I ask"

DEAD?????????? WOWman! wel i thought Memorial Address was dedicated to him, too.... btw.... she was crying hard up there :(

Qt Mashi 19th December 2004 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CRAZYBOAT
Ayu's life is such a mystery eh?

very mysterious even her music video's are too :thud

Qt Mashi 19th December 2004 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Z333
Wait... Wasn't Ayu's dad dead? Wasn't Memorial Address dedicated to him, and wasn't that the reason why she cried during Arena Tour? notice the fact that she sung it just after Teddy Bear, another song that is dedicated to him, so it would make sense, wouldn't it?
"I wanted you to tell me, didn't care if it was a lie, that you deffinitely loved me, just once is all I ask"

relli?? was Teddy Bear dedicated to her father?

lolo66 19th December 2004 05:16 AM

no way, Ayu has no dad in her life.
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
Herself. Maybe it's about her Grandmother or something, I don't know. I just don't see her looking up to her father for anything.

I will definitely think when someone says "walking proud" it will be about him/herself... 92% of the time.
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Originally Posted by Ayumi626
I personally think Replace is more for her dad and walking proud is for herself.

No song is for her dad. Why drag this on?!
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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
I think Walking Proud is about herself.

A Song for Xx is about her mother and Teddy Bear and Memorial Address are about her father.

ahhh stop it all already... unless anyone can bring factual proof to this.

SunshineSlayer 19th December 2004 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lolo66
ahhh stop it all already... unless anyone can bring factual proof to this.

In this interview she alludes to Teddy Bear being about the lonliness she felt after her dad left: http://www.taipei-taiwan.org/interview2.html

I also remember reading that A Song For Xx was about her mother, but I can't remember where. If I find that link, I will post it as well.

EDITED to add: I've found it. It's the translation of the All Night Nippon radio interview: http://homepage2.nifty.com/morimasa/allnight.html It's an interesting article to read through as it gives quite a bit of background about her upbringing - more so than I have seen anywhere else. Here is the part that pertains to "A Song for Xx" being about her mother though:

"I've looked at the person as a woman, Hamasaki Mariko, for twenty years and thought I would not like to be a woman like her and would not like to make the same mistakes as hers. I've learned a lot from my mother in such senses. Sorry for my nasal voice. Honestly speaking, there are no points in her at all I like or I dislike, maybe because I've never looked at that person as a human. Well, this is the song whose title is that of my first album, too. "A Song for XX". I'd like you to insert whatever words you like to the part XX. Well, I wrote this lyrics in my own manner thinking about the person I've told you now, which some of you may understand only by listening to this song. Please listen. "A Song for XX" by Hamasaki Ayumi."

yamogi 19th December 2004 07:08 AM

teddy bear is about her father, a song for xx is about her mother, but surely walking proud is not for either of them, it is talk about herself only!(if you look through the lyric of the whole album, you'll know what i mean)

SunshineSlayer 19th December 2004 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by yamogi
teddy bear is about her father, a song for xx is about her mother, but surely walking proud is not for either of them, it is talk about herself only!(if you look through the lyric of the whole album, you'll know what i mean)

My sentiments exactly, Yamogi. Thanks. :)

Qt Mashi 19th December 2004 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yamogi
teddy bear is about her father, a song for xx is about her mother, but surely walking proud is not for either of them, it is talk about herself only!(if you look through the lyric of the whole album, you'll know what i mean)

memorial address's story is similar to teddy bear except in a different view

Let-Go 19th December 2004 10:00 AM

why some of the comments are way offensive in a way turning into a "i know more than you" :/...

I dont really know ayumi's background but when i read something like "walking proud" definetly would think it's about himself/herself...or someone givin' an advise or something;tho...if her dad abandoned her...the victim, in this case, and the person the song should be is for her...i dunno if u get me but yeah...IMOPO

lolo66 19th December 2004 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Let-Go
why some of the comments are way offensive in a way turning into a "i know more than you" :/...

I dont really know ayumi's background but when i read something like "walking proud" definetly would think it's about himself/herself...or someone givin' an advise or something;tho...if her dad abandoned her...the victim, in this case, and the person the song should be is for her...i dunno if u get me but yeah...IMOPO

You meant she's proud of the fact she's able move on (and had success) despite not having a father in her life? Is that it?

yulen 19th December 2004 11:44 PM

maybe some of us read to much into her lyrics x_x truthfully, if she's never specifically mentioned her father, we'll never know. we can only speculate...

Let-Go 20th December 2004 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by lolo66
You meant she's proud of the fact she's able move on (and had success) despite not having a father in her life? Is that it?

Kinda & adding that shes available to despite the ppl that hates her for random or nonsense reasons, tabloid and about...that things wont bring her down i dunno, im gettin lost myself but yeah i meant that IF the situation that you all are holdin "walking proud for her dad"[omg :shakehead ]but yeah...

lovia 20th December 2004 05:33 AM

haha whatever that is... i dont think it is for anyone of her parents... sounds more like it is for herself and did u all notice in the pv... the statue is actually ayu ... yeah i think is ayu.. i saw her face but at her neck there is this greyish thingy like the rest of the characters in the pv... maybe should also look into the oricon's magazine interview too.. kind of related :) maybe being able to be walk proud without being influence by others opinion, being able to think and decide for oneself... something like that if i have not interpret wrongly =)

Qt Mashi 20th December 2004 09:28 AM

i just read Memorial Address, Teddy Bear and Who.. lyrics and they seem to have a connection~

hana_sanctuary 23rd December 2004 05:05 AM

You know- I don't mean to be cynical at all and I dont want anyone to take this the wrong way... but for how long Ayu's been writing lyrics and singing, you would sorta figure she'd be sorta over writing about a non-present parent. And please don't say "you're speaking out of your ass"~~cuz well yeah- my dad's been gone since I've been young, too. After a while it's ok.


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