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Coelacanth 24th March 2005 02:58 AM

'walking proud' a Kinki rip-off?
 
I was pointed out by a friend that the chorus of Ayu's 'walking proud' sounds a lot like the chorus of this song by Kinki Kids. It's very interesting how similar the vocal melody is, and in my opinion it is very similar...

Here is the chorus of the Kinki Kids song.

Looks like Ayu needs to find some other composers/arrangers, she's looking like a copy-cat lately.

mnuguyen 24th March 2005 03:13 AM

Mmm, it does sound like walking proud, but only that one part.

ImpactBreaker 24th March 2005 03:15 AM

Hmm maybe it was intentional...the final product sounds nice so I don't really mind :P:P:P It actually sounds better than the chorus of the Kinki song so I guess it improved ;) Maybe she could find some new composers but hey what if she ends up picking the recent DAI's composer who makes interesting verses but some of the most horrible chorus I've ever listened to (talking about their latest release Need Your Love)? That would be even worse, so I don't really think we need to complain in that part.

evechoco 24th March 2005 03:25 AM

a bit similar maybe they have the same composer, anyway ayu walking proud is better, is just soothing

Echiko 24th March 2005 04:29 AM

WOW. o_O quite similiar indeed...Oh dears..

LEOyumi 24th March 2005 04:36 AM

Really similar, but Ayumi's chorus is really better o_O'
New composers would be great tho.

miracleofsuzaku 24th March 2005 04:46 AM

yes it's somewhat similar..but it's not necessaritly a "rip-off"..i've also heard a variation of this medlodyin a chinese song before...along with some other asian pop songs

yys113 24th March 2005 05:17 AM

Walking proud is n times better than that. The kinki version is just bland.

Qt Mashi 24th March 2005 07:15 AM

wow it relli sounds soo similar, but yeah ofcourse ayu's version sounds better!

norain 24th March 2005 07:48 AM

well gee, she keeps using the same person, they're selling the same product to everyone, just variated

jkm444 24th March 2005 07:53 AM

Just like how everyone said ayu's ver is better. At least it is not like how Goto maki made her song (Afurechau be in love) sound similar to one of Jessica simpson's song (I forgot the song title for Jesssica).

yamogi 24th March 2005 08:06 AM

it's just the chorus(not very similar about 60% notes), not the whole song , if it's the whole song, then is called rip-off,but it's NOT, actually, it doesen't really matter, many songs' some part is simaliar to other songs

i always don't understand why you guys say stupid thing like this :no

ONLY 60% NOTES ARE THE SAME(you can count that, i don't think it is VERY similar !)

nmskalmn 24th March 2005 11:03 AM

If the KinKi Kids handlers thought it was a copy there would have been a lawsuit by now.

ImpactBreaker 24th March 2005 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
If the KinKi Kids handlers thought it was a copy there would have been a lawsuit by now.

Exactly :yes Plus ayu has a good relationship with Kinki Kids or so it seems (they all sang SEASONS together once).
Plus the lyrics are so different. :lech

//hikari 24th March 2005 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
If the KinKi Kids handlers thought it was a copy there would have been a lawsuit by now.

finally ... sane people :')

ohsixthirty 24th March 2005 07:13 PM

Sounds similar...omg...I'm not listening to Ayumi anymore, she copies. :grumpy

JimmyKoria 24th March 2005 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by touchedstar
Sounds similar...omg...I'm not listening to Ayumi anymore, she copies. :grumpy

hahaha!

the3ye 24th March 2005 08:53 PM

hmm ayu isn't first who uses this notes.
check here
http://www.toshiba-emi.co.jp/nanase/...oct4526_01.ram

i'm still thinking that walking proud beats these 2 songs

DA1SUK1DAY01691 24th March 2005 09:32 PM

Ya i find Kinki and Ayu very similar... i like the Kinki song, but Walking Proud is sooo much bettter....

I have a suggestion for someone who can easily read kanji-! Find out thier composers and labels!!! Because I don't think Ayumi makes the background music, she only writes the lyrics!

kiseki89 26th March 2005 09:16 AM

It's a little same but not exactly the same. Can someone upload the full song Angel? I never hear it before, sounds nice.

Manross 27th March 2005 03:53 AM

the front part of chorus sounds similar but i dun think ayu wld copy :)

CaliAyuLuva 27th March 2005 10:47 PM

wow this is really interesting...but im not sure it affects my opinion of her at all

norain 6th September 2005 04:08 AM

Can someone reup this, I don't know what the song is either, I want to send it to my friend. x_x

Mad_Cactuar 6th September 2005 04:25 AM

nah, its just a little familiar.. it doesnt affect anything.. Norain, I've seen you at H-O right?

norain 6th September 2005 04:33 AM

Well, I have the sample that I dled, but it's been deleted (I mean I did post on the first page and that was months ago, lol.)

Yes, I'm on Hikaru online, it's a really...quiet place...(MUST MAKE UTADA REPLACE ALL THOSE FAKES)

hopeorpain 6th September 2005 04:36 AM

Reup please? :)

starr5245 6th September 2005 06:10 AM

aah! But the lyrics are totally different right?
That's the thing that really matters,,

DA1SUK1DAY01691 6th September 2005 06:36 AM

can someone upload the whole song?

norain 7th September 2005 03:21 AM

Something about the song being 70 percent the same, I'm hoping someone can reup it. At least tell me the title of the song.

Coelacanth 7th September 2005 03:25 AM

http://s10.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3...F0ZG59XW8H19S0

hopeorpain 7th September 2005 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantoma

Thanks! The song sounds nice, actually.
I don't mind the similarity at all :D

Love Appears 7th September 2005 04:55 AM

Thanks! I had downloaded that awhile back but lost it.
Anyhow... yeah, I do think the similarity is a bit uncanny. o.O
But it could be coincidential. There's so many songs written every day, it's bound to happen I guess.

ayufan89 7th September 2005 04:15 PM

wow. i must say its quite a like, but i think its a coincidental. i like the song a lot. can anyone upload the full version please?

walking proud 7th September 2005 04:18 PM

No

Yarumi 8th September 2005 01:34 PM

WOW! That is more than a little similar... perhaps though they are good friends... Ayu may have put this in there for them, as a gift... or as a tribute... especially since it wasn't credited in the credits... There's NO way that the Kinki Kid's people could have let this slip if it wasn't for a reason... Gifts usually aren't credited :)

I mean, this chorus was on the commercial, Ayu would NOT have let the part that was so similar be on TV everyday for them to hear it for sure if she copied :P

orenji_jaro 9th September 2005 08:34 AM

it's ok if she copied atleats she used her own style of singing! ^^

Mad_Cactuar 9th September 2005 08:46 AM

DONT FORGET she did not compose it.. Blame the composer, hehe.. Besides, I doubt Ayu listens to Kinki or whatever, she has her own interests and she would not want to support a rival.. Unless its Hikki? And even if she DID copy, at least her version sounds a lot nicer!

emi♡ 10th September 2005 01:02 AM

who's song came out first? well since everyones saying Ayu copied then I guess Kinki Kids song came out first....

why would AYU want to copy other people in the first place? she doesnt need to. if anything people copy her.

marty518 10th September 2005 01:50 AM

I think Walking Proud is also a rip off of Morning Musume's song "Furusato." Not the chorus or anything, but the opening music. The last minute or so of "Furusato," is the girls "oooh"-ing to the exact same melody!

It's forgivable because there are so many songs on the planet that some are bound to sound alike. It's not really a blame game, so nobody needs to be offended that people are bringing this up. And even if the copying was intentional, Ayu didn't write the music to this song, did she? Haha
Even if she did, she's only human and humans make mistakes!

Chibi_Venus 10th September 2005 02:15 AM

*sigh* I wish Ayu would compose songs again. :(

AyuRlz 11th September 2005 06:47 AM

it seems more like a coincidence to me


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