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orangeland 30th June 2005 11:56 PM

[scans] Chinese OS versions
 
heheh i don't post very often (or at all) so sorry if this is in the wrong forum! :innocent

just go back from china about a week ago and bought some ayu cds. thought you guys might want to see the changes that avex asia has made to ayu cds there!

btw - these are aren't fake! they're licensed to be distributed in china by avex asia and distributed by CRSC (china record shanghai corp).

LOVEppears album
Info: this only comes as a one cd set (CD 1 of japan ver) and doesn't come w/ a poster :(
front cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...OVEppears1.jpg
back cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...OVEppears2.jpg
disc: (crappy-looking compared to the japan ver IMO)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...OVEppears3.jpg

Duty album
front cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ge89/Duty1.jpg
disc:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ge89/Duty2.jpg

most of the other cds released don't look much different from the original ver. except "I am..." whose booklet pages have been put in the wrong order -___-
okay hope that was interesting for you! i have more so if you want to see just ask.

the3ye 1st July 2005 12:26 AM

interesting... are you sure these are original?

denadel 1st July 2005 12:40 AM

That's cool :)
Ive never seen chinese covers before. Thanks for sharing :)

BanFan 1st July 2005 12:57 AM

Aren't those bootlegs? ><;

Hmm...*checks some bootleg page*

Edit:Hm...I guess they are real...

MsMiyabi 1st July 2005 01:55 AM

I love the Duty Cd Color and no there are not bootlegs.

Corybobory 1st July 2005 02:02 AM

I see Ayu's belly!!

devilayu 1st July 2005 02:29 AM

I find it interesting that Avex Asia issues (sort of) different packaging for Taiwan, China, and HK. The CD's from Taiwan look exactly the same as the Japanese ones.

tinyppl 1st July 2005 07:18 PM

>_< I always prefer Japanese versions. The pics above.. even if they're licensed, those logos and fonts just spoil it.

Qt Mashi 1st July 2005 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyppl
>_< I always prefer Japanese versions. The pics above.. even if they're licensed, those logos and fonts just spoil it.

yes i agree and i also rather japanese writing on it instead of chinese, japanese writing just makes it look rare and original :P

Euroboy 1st July 2005 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyppl
>_< I always prefer Japanese versions. The pics above.. even if they're licensed, those logos and fonts just spoil it.

For the most part i agree.. but it is really awesome to see the different covers.. kinda makes me wanna buy all of them... haha.. more money for Ayu, na~ :D

P.S. tinyppl, your avatar is AWESOME! how do you do that? in photoshop? please explain all the details cause i wanna do it... you can PM me if you want.. i'm really interested.. That's if you have the time of course. Thanks in advace :D

Euroboy 1st July 2005 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeland
most of the other cds released don't look much different from the original ver. except "I am..." whose booklet pages have been put in the wrong order -___-
okay hope that was interesting for you! i have more so if you want to see just ask.

yes PLEASE put more up.. wow i sound desparate... i'm just really curious :innocent
And "I am..." Overseas Version has the pages not in the right order? That's the one i have.. makes me wanna buy the Japan version now................. :eyebrow

~Matt~ 2nd July 2005 12:16 AM

thanks for posting, they're really cute :)
do you have more chinese ayu CDs??

orangeland 2nd July 2005 12:59 AM

okay i'll post some more up, but only those that look only a tad different. like i said, other than some few, mostly all of them look like japanese ver. cds.

I am...
front cover:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam1.jpg
CD:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam5.jpg
Extended obi (not limited, comes w/ every pressing in china)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam6.jpg
messed up pages:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/iam2.jpg

Cyber trance 2
front cover of slipcase box:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...rTrance2-1.jpg
back cover of slipcase box:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...rTrance2-2.jpg
CD:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...rTrance2-3.jpg

Memorial address (CD+DVD)
front cover w/ obi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/MA1.jpg
back cover w/ obi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/MA2.jpg

No way to say:
front cover w/ obi:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ge89/NWTS1.jpg
CD:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ge89/NWTS2.jpg


btw, i agree w/ you guys - japanese ver. cds DO look better. i actually could have bought most of these at narita airport, but i didn't. why? chinese OS ver. albums only cost approx. $7.25 USD each and chinese OS ver. singles only cost approx $4.75 USD each. in total, i bought 8 albums and 4 singles. guess how much all of it cost? $77 USD as opposed to the nearly $250 USD i would have spent in narita. either way, i would have supported ayu by buying legit CDs, so why not support her and not give my wallet a heart attack at the same time? that's my two cents :P heheh if you're wondering i did wind up buying my story classical and step you/is this love at narita b/c neither has been released in china yet ><. even those 2 cds cost over half of what i paid for 12 cds (approx $43 USD).

btw, i didn't scan all of them b/c i have to go out soon but i also have these that i can scan later:

A BEST
Moments
INSPIRE/GAME
Carols
RAINBOW
MY STORY

Gunblitze 2nd July 2005 01:05 AM

neat , ive never seen the chinese versions :)

~Matt~ 2nd July 2005 01:41 AM

they're cool :P

Euroboy 2nd July 2005 02:02 AM

thanks :) that's awesome... i have the "I am..." OS version album... but the pages aren't messed up... i guess it was only on a few booklets.. haha! That's actually pretty funny. They'll probably end up costing a lot of money in the future. keep it safe and protected.

devilayu 2nd July 2005 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Euroboy
thanks :) that's awesome... i have the "I am..." OS version album... but the pages aren't messed up... i guess it was only on a few booklets.. haha! That's actually pretty funny. They'll probably end up costing a lot of money in the future. keep it safe and protected.

There are a few different OS versions, so you may not have a CD from the same batch/printing factory.

Qsenwill 2nd July 2005 03:08 AM

i have Chinese OS versions such as rainbow,i am,forgiveness,my story~~~~~hahah,they are very cheap.my story(cd only) cost me 18yuan(about 2.3dollar)

starr5245 3rd July 2005 04:02 AM

I even saw some INSPIRE CD+DVD. They're soo cheap! Yet the quality is the same. I just don't like the packaging. So not Japanese >.<

kinix 3rd July 2005 05:41 AM

Please dun be mistaken by the OS versions. The usual OS version that yesasia sells is either Taiwan or Hongkong. This version u have is the China version not chinese...And usually china version are the worst as u can see for urself... So many words on the booklet and the colors are diffferent. However the Hongkong and Taiwan versions are almost totally same with the Japan version. And they also includes a chinese translation lyrics in the disc.
Do the china version have it since u didnt mention about it...

orangeland 3rd July 2005 06:33 AM

well, except for the translations of ayu's name and the album title on the cover along w/ the certification stickers, everything is usually the same as the japanese version and other OS versions. the booklets are identical (except for my "I am..." misprint) and the only the "Duty" CD color is off but it's really no big deal. as for the translation sheet, i think china's is better in that it includes the translation along w/ japanese lyrics that have the hiragana characters for the kanji. as an example, here's my "No way to say" translation sheet:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ge89/trans.jpg
sorry, my scanner sucks, but the lyrics to the left is the simplified chinese translation and the lyrics to the right are the japanese lyrics w/ hiragana characters for help. i can actually sing along to this song now w/ that :D .

i've always wondered why yesasia never has these versions, but now that i think about, if yesasia had china os versions, avex wouldn't make any money. china os versions are at least $5 cheaper than taiwan / hk versions and $5-20 cheaper than japan ver. and as w/ most foreign cds, companies are really strict about keeping china versions IN china to avoid losing money in other areas where they release the same music at a much more expensive price.

kournikova 3rd July 2005 03:19 PM

i have 2 of ayu single from china.. forgiveness n no way to say... they are look exactly the same... but just the sticker spoils it... n the quality is perfect... ^^ its real.. they have translations too ^^

AyuGAME 3rd July 2005 04:36 PM

hmm..i think its normal if os version if much more bad than the japan ones

Delirium-Zer0 3rd July 2005 05:28 PM

Um... these ARE bootlegs.

The bootleggers tried to cover their tracks by copying the real artwork so the avex logo & stock number are still there in many cases, but look at the distribution companies. Only What's Music distributes avex releases in Taiwan, and Avex Asia distributes them in Hong Kong.

Avex never adds that much extra chinese writing to their CDS, her name in chinese is only ever on the obi, not the cover. And they'd never change how the cd itself looked to nearly the degree these bootleggers have changed Duty and LOVEppears. Those discs are harder to reproduce cuz they're shiny, while the I am... and No way to say discs were matte finish to begin with... a scanner can pick up detail on those more easily.

The circle-shaped sticker is the only 100% definite giveaway besides the distribution companies. And the SCD stock number on No way to say. Avex NEVER has an "SCD "stock number, all their stock numbers start with AV.

I'm sorry, these AREN'T licensed by avex. :(

orangeland 3rd July 2005 06:00 PM

these are real -___-.

yes they have the round sticker, but so does every media release in china. and these are distributed by CRSC - China Record Shanghai Corporation. if you haven't noticed, there's a red box on each cover - that's their logo. you should also notice the "avex j-cd" sticker on each cd, which signifies it's real. as for the chinese writing, avex asia is going to have to allow some chinese writing on the cover so that chinese people actually understand what they're buying.

as for "SCD", it's how CRSC catalogues everything. Avex CDs in china have TWO catalogue numbers usually - one with "SCD" and another with "AVTCD(S)". as for "CL" on the translation sheet, i'm not sure. "No way to say" has the following two catalogue numbers - SCD-723 and AVTCDS-429C. if you really don't believe me, please look at ayumi's avex china site. even they show the "SCD" catalogue numbers.

and before you call them fake, please do your research more carefully -___-.

minkAYuko 3rd July 2005 06:47 PM

real
fake
real
fake
real
fake

my head hurts! :(

they are cool! hehehe

Delirium-Zer0 3rd July 2005 07:23 PM

Holy crap, these ARE real!! O___O I stand corrected and I apologize profusely o__o

Wow avex has some crap manufacturing in the mainland o_o I'm never complaining about the HK and TW releases again. That LOVEppears is baffling, her name on the front looks awful.

(On another note, please don't accuse me of not doing research, I've been an actively searching ayu fan for five years and I've been dedicated to finding all her releases, and I never knew of any mainland china releases. The quality and content of all these scream "bootleg" because they're quite unprofessional, and I've seen bootlegs that looked pretty real in the past.)

Well, they're the real deal... on that note, thanks for the scans, this is REALLY interesting to see! O_O I mean seriously... the change in design & quality from the japan versions to these is just... fascinating. o_o

Euroboy 3rd July 2005 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilayu
There are a few different OS versions, so you may not have a CD from the same batch/printing factory.

oh okay, thanks.

Creamy Ayumi 3rd July 2005 09:24 PM

i have difficulty to believe they aren't fake!
I'm sorry but chinese are very strong to make copy but i don't have one of this versions to confirm what i think!
Thanks for yours scans!^^
it's interesting!

Delirium-Zer0 3rd July 2005 10:46 PM

the official avexnet.cn site was enough to convince me. I mean, i really doubt any bootlegging group would go so far as to create a whole fake-avex site. It's probably an independently run division of avex (I doubt there was any quality control on these from the higher-ups), but it's probably all officially licensed.

orangeland 3rd July 2005 10:58 PM

lol Delirium-Zer0, i accept your apology :P. i admit i sound a tad bit cocky when i'm trying to prove something :P.

as for quality, there is absolutely NO LOSS of quality on these compared to any other OS or Japanese ver. seriously, the only thing that's different are the added chinese characters. the quality may look a tad bit sucky because my scanner sucks, so please bear with me ^^;;. otherwise, there really is no quality loss. btw, in case you're wondering what a fake looks like compared to a real cd in china, look at this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/004.jpg
this is a FAKE "I am..." my dad bought me like 2 years ago. THAT is quality loss. oh yeah i enlarged the cover b/c it originally had a white border. now compare it to...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/003.jpg
the REAL "I am..." pressing that i recently bought. quite different yes? :P

Delirium-Zer0 3rd July 2005 11:05 PM

yeah, you can tell how off the colors are. If this were between two different scanners it'd be harder to tell, but they're both from yours... it looks like the bootleg "I am..." was photoshopped for better quality, but to a bad end. :P

orangeland, do you mind if I use these scans on my site? I want completion on it so that other people know what real things are vs. bootlegs (among other reasons) and I certainly don't want anyone making the same mistake i did if they're real. You'll definitely be credited. :)

orangeland 3rd July 2005 11:14 PM

yeah, no problem!

i have another comparison you can use as well, but this one is rather hard to tell w/o an explanation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/001.jpg
this (as a matter of fact) is a FAKE pressing of "RAINBOW" that my dad bought for me too (he has no eye for spotting real things and fake things at all ><). the image is slightly shifted so that ayu's head is cut off, the font color for the "RAINBOW" and "ayumi hamasaki" are too dark, and the font used for "ayumi hamasaki" is totally off. you can also sense the quality loss as the color contrast is a bit high.

now compare it to a real edition of "RAINBOW" i recently bought:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/002.jpg
this is REAL. the cover is exactly the same as japanese ver. except for the certification stickers, CRSC logo at the bottom left, and the chinese tital above rainbow.

Delirium-Zer0 4th July 2005 03:56 AM

Wow, that first rainbow is really terrible... but yeah, unless you regularly see the real thing, someone (like your dad) might never know it's fake. They might just think bad graphic design, hence bad centering.

Creamy Ayumi 4th July 2005 09:08 AM

but if they are an official CD's why it don't have te second CD in your LOVEppears album?
For I am... & RAINBOW you have convinced.

yamogi 4th July 2005 10:50 AM

they are bootleg( i see those on yahoo,they are bootleg)!!!! i am sure, the real chinese version is the same as JP versions

kiseki89 4th July 2005 10:58 AM

I still prefer the original pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~ and Hong Kong version that we get in Singapore. English or pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~ I can stand but the Chinese words there kinda spoil the whole thing

Gunblitze 4th July 2005 11:04 AM

Dosent seem like bootleg....but as long as the songs are in them and play well, im fine with w/e :P

extepan 4th July 2005 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi
yes i agree and i also rather japanese writing on it instead of chinese, japanese writing just makes it look rare and original :P

you have to bear in mind that in fact HK versions are the rarest out of HK, TW and JP versions. if you think JP versions are 'rare', you should remember that in fact JP versions are pressed the most, followed by TW and then HK versions.

Delirium-Zer0 4th July 2005 07:36 PM

Creamy Ayumi: Ayu's official chinese site makes no mention of LOVEppears including disc 2. The tracklist only shows disc 1. It just doesn't have it for some reason. *shrug*

Creamy Ayumi 4th July 2005 09:24 PM

thanks for your info Delirium-ZerO!^^

Nu-NRG 4th July 2005 11:13 PM

the old taiwanese version is HORRIBLE...the blue obi :thud
i only manage to get one HK version in my entire ayu's discography and the rest are just
japanese ones and 2 or 3 are TW ones
btw these scans you've post are actually just China version...is not really call as OS version..os version=HK/TW only

orangeland 5th July 2005 12:17 AM

mm okay i finally figured out how to make get my scanner to scan more clearer images...but then i had to resize them w/ paint so sorry! ><.

INSPIRE:
outer cover -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e89/Cover1.jpg
inner tray -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e89/Cover2.jpgbooklet (outer) -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...9/Booklet1.jpgbooklet (inner) -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...9/Booklet2.jpgCD -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/CD.jpg
DVD -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/DVD.jpg
obi (outer) -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/Obi1.jpg
obi (inner) -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/orange89/Obi2.jpg
Translation sheet (double sided) -
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e89/Trans1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...e89/Trans2.jpg
i'll try to scan all of them at once later~

Delirium-Zer0 5th July 2005 12:48 AM

oh wow, the Inspire one actually looks pretty good compared to the others!

Creamy Ayumi 5th July 2005 06:52 AM

i don't like stickers!>_<
But it's perfect!

TeamAyu 5th July 2005 07:00 AM

I WANT THE DUTY ONE!!! The Pink disc TOTALLY ROCKS! It's like the black disc version of A BALLADS but prettier hahaha *wants*


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