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AyuMayu 31st July 2005 03:16 AM

What's the "official" title of the fairyland single?
 
Is it fairyland or fairyland c/w alterna? Also, what are the official track titles? For example, is fairyland just "fairyland" or "fairyland 'original mix'"?

Thanks!

h1608 31st July 2005 04:42 AM

release title: fairyland
track title: fairyland "original mix"
song title: fairyland

conversation:
A: have you heard fairyland?
B: i've heard the song, but not the "original mix"

"c/w" is not usually paired with the title
in cases such as INSPIRE, it is labeled on the cover for advertisement purposes

AyuMayu 31st July 2005 05:21 AM

Ah, I see. I wanted to know so I could properly tag them on iTunes, so would this be correct?

http://tinypic.com/9q9oud.png

h1608 31st July 2005 05:36 AM

Name: fairyland "original mix"

it's better to be specific, but you don't have to
you are a pretty neat person....so organized
they've updated the official web page with the official track listing

CD SIDE
01. fairyland "original mix"
mixed by Koji Morimoto
02. alterna "original mix"
mixed by Shojiro Watanabe
03. STEP you "DJ TAKI-**** More Step Up Remix"
Remixed by DJ TAKI-****
04. fairyland "Bright Field mix"
Remixed by Takahiro Izutani
05. fairyland "original mix-Instrumental-"
mixed by Koji Morimoto
06. alterna "original mix-Instrumental-"
mixed by Shojiro Watanabe

DVD SIDE
fairyland <video clip>
alterna <video clip>
fairyland <photo gallery>


hahahahahahah...AHS filtered out S.H.I.T from the title :eviltongu

Delirium-Zer0 31st July 2005 06:56 AM

I think the only ayu single with more than one song title in the title of the single was LOVE ~Destiny~/LOVE ~since 1999~ (at least based on what's on the spine)... the reissue wasn't titled like that, i don't think o_O

[taskin.ayu] 31st July 2005 07:26 AM

I think it's only "fairyland" as the single name, since "c/w alterna" isn't on the cover.

One question I want to ask is whether the INSPIRE single would be "INSPIRE" or "INSPIRE c/w GAME" since "INSPIRE c/w GAME" is on the cover. o_O

[AHS]MortalSex 31st July 2005 10:46 AM

^ Well I guess it´s Inspire c/w Game ^^

greggerz189 31st July 2005 01:48 PM

I heard it was called fairyland c/w alterna. ::Shrugs::

Beyond the Sea 31st July 2005 05:01 PM

So does this mean that Alterna is a Bside or a c/w side?

c/w sides get more attenion
B sides are just there as filler space

elepop 31st July 2005 07:53 PM

Okay, now I'm lost. That's quite confusing. LOL.

AyuMayu 31st July 2005 09:19 PM

LOL! It is kind of confusing >_<

Delirium-Zer0 31st July 2005 10:34 PM

j-nerd, in jpop, b-sides and c/w's are basically the same thing. c/w just means songs-besides-the-title-track. The poker face single says poker face c/w FRIEND on the cover. b-side isn't really a term in jpop (though a-side is for some reason, but really only on multiple a-side singles like A, H, and &... really a single is only ever considered a multiple a-side of all included songs are in the title or if the title is different from the first full song on the single).

As for a single's official title, it's better to go by what the spine or obi says, since that's not really using any design conventions. Alot of times the graphic designer will put the c/w song's name on the cover just cuz they think it'll look nice there. The spine is no-nonsense, artist and title. Maybe a nice font. that's about it.

The spine just says fairyland, then it's just called fairyland.

orangeland 31st July 2005 11:04 PM

i did it this way:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...9/untitled.jpg

Beyond the Sea 1st August 2005 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0
j-nerd, in jpop, b-sides and c/w's are basically the same thing. c/w just means songs-besides-the-title-track. The poker face single says poker face c/w FRIEND on the cover. b-side isn't really a term in jpop (though a-side is for some reason, but really only on multiple a-side singles like A, H, and &... really a single is only ever considered a multiple a-side of all included songs are in the title or if the title is different from the first full song on the single).

As for a single's official title, it's better to go by what the spine or obi says, since that's not really using any design conventions. Alot of times the graphic designer will put the c/w song's name on the cover just cuz they think it'll look nice there. The spine is no-nonsense, artist and title. Maybe a nice font. that's about it.

The spine just says fairyland, then it's just called fairyland.


um no. There is a diffrence between c/w and bside. For example Inspire c/w Game. If Game was a Bside it wouldn't get a PV and as much attention as it did compared to something like Heat from Koda Kumi which most people haven't even heard of.

orangeland 1st August 2005 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_nerd
um no. There is a diffrence between c/w and bside. For example Inspire c/w Game. If Game was a Bside it wouldn't get a PV and as much attention as it did compared to something like Heat from Koda Kumi which most people haven't even heard of.

actually, i think Delirium-Zer0 is right on this one. for example, BoA's "LISTEN TO MY HEART" single says "c/w Snow White & LISTEN TO MY HEART (English ver.)," and neither of the "coupling with" songs have PVs (Snow White wasn't even featured on BoA's debut album). another example is with BoA's "kimochi wa tsutawaru" single which has on the cover "coupling with Next Step." "Next Step" didn't get a PV and again, never made it on any album.

however, if you look on utada hikaru's "COLORS" single, it has "Simple & Clean" as a B-side, which didn't have a PV, but was definitely given more attention than "COLORS" because of its use in the promotion for "Kingdom Hearts."

so in the end, b-sides and c/w's have no importance over one another. they're the same. equality for all (songs)! ;)

btw, isn't B-side used in j-pop? i mean, Do As Infinity has an album entitled "Do the B-Side" :eyebrow weird :D

kournikova 1st August 2005 05:10 AM

i think original mix shows that the track in the single is original ^^

lotusoka 1st August 2005 05:48 AM

shouldn't we just look at the cover? :|

tl1029530921 1st August 2005 08:24 AM

i think the most accurate thing to look at would be the spine. Not the OBI spine, the case spine.

greggerz189 1st August 2005 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeland
actually, i think Delirium-Zer0 is right on this one. for example, BoA's "LISTEN TO MY HEART" single says "c/w Snow White & LISTEN TO MY HEART (English ver.)," and neither of the "coupling with" songs have PVs (Snow White wasn't even featured on BoA's debut album). another example is with BoA's "kimochi wa tsutawaru" single which has on the cover "coupling with Next Step." "Next Step" didn't get a PV and again, never made it on any album.

however, if you look on utada hikaru's "COLORS" single, it has "Simple & Clean" as a B-side, which didn't have a PV, but was definitely given more attention than "COLORS" because of its use in the promotion for "Kingdom Hearts."

so in the end, b-sides and c/w's have no importance over one another. they're the same. equality for all (songs)! ;)

btw, isn't B-side used in j-pop? i mean, Do As Infinity has an album entitled "Do the B-Side" :eyebrow weird :D

Yeah, BoA's b-sides are Snow white, Realize (stay with me), earthsong and NEXT STEP.

greggerz189 1st August 2005 03:45 PM

well if you're going to go by the OBI, then it's "fairyland c/w alterna"

kinix 1st August 2005 06:41 PM

Either way is fine.
The only reason why they put "original mix" is because in singles u'll be expected to see some mixes of the song so they put "original mix" so that u'll know which is the original version of the song.
And the reason why they nv indicate "original mix" is of cos very simple... U cant expect them to indicate on every song that it's original right?

Delirium-Zer0 2nd August 2005 01:26 AM

orangeland: I didn't even think of that DAI cd... Still, thinking of it... that's the only time i've heard "B-side" used on anything officially released, i think... there might be more but i can't think of them. o_O In any case, thanks for backing me up. I've been watching jpop releases for 5 years and I don't see the term b-side very often.

greggerz: where did you see the obi? I can believe that the title is fairyland c/w alterna if that's what it says on the obi.

yaten 11th August 2005 07:46 AM

i have the CD and CD+DVD versions, the OBIs only say 'fairyland' ... I can see where you are confused, because on the front part of the OBI (not the spine) it does say 'fairyland c/w alterna' ... and of course to add to the confusion, the DISC itself does read 'fairyland c/w alterna' ... jeez, and the cover just says fairyland. But for all cataloguing purposes the spine is regarded as the end-all for official titles - and the spine simply says fairyland.

further more, there are only about 3 ayu singles that i do not own at this point, and nothing is EVER offically credited with "c/w..." (on the spine, that is)

and deli, i'm going to be checking up on that b-side reference ... i know we've had this tuff before. oh yes, that was over the term "A-Side" ... the "Shine We Are!" single from BoA actually credited itself as a double a-side, while we all know Earthsong kindof vanished into obscurity shortly thereafter. (why did i just go into that?)

I guess sometimes we forget that the japanese are using a language that they're not native to for almost all of their releases ¬¬*it adds confusion to native english speakers who can notice discrepancies so easily.

and as far any ayumi anything goes, statements made by myself or deli should be regarded as canon ... don't you guys know that by now?

yaten 11th August 2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0
I think the only ayu single with more than one song title in the title of the single was LOVE ~Destiny~/LOVE ~since 1999~ (at least based on what's on the spine)... the reissue wasn't titled like that, i don't think o_O

STEP you / is this LOVE?

ring any bells? ;)


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