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hamayu 30th August 2005 01:17 AM

Ayumi's Deaf?=O
 
my friend recently told me dat one of ayu's ears is deaf..... is dis true?...... and if it is wat about her other ear?
um my friend said it was cuz of her concerts and dats y shes having less now.......ummmmmmmmm i hope dis isnt true....TT.TT i wud b so sad if it was... cuz if she does become deaf... den.....AHHHHHH
TT.TT

kristen 30th August 2005 01:20 AM

I doubt she would be deaf in both ears, because then it would be difficult to compose songs and what not...

Annabelle 30th August 2005 01:22 AM

She's almost deaf in the left ear. You should have posted this in "Enquiries"...

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:22 AM

-.- i no she wudnt b able to sing or compose nemore ! its not like shes getting deaf on purpose! she might not b able to help it!!!!!! cuz after all..... shes gonna have to stop singing and doing concerts maybe if she wants to keep from going deaf..... i think...TT.TT

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:23 AM

ohxD;; oops... im sry... i have no clue wat enquiries mean

mnuguyen 30th August 2005 01:23 AM

ayu has a hearing problem in her left ear due to constant exposure to loud music during concerts and performances.
She's not actually "deaf", but she says she cannot hear that well in her left ear and she cannot answer the phone with that ear.

Love Appears 30th August 2005 01:24 AM

No, I don't think she's literally deaf, in one ear or the other. It's possible she does have some kind of hearing impediment, but for her to be deaf in one ear would really limit her musical composure.

Of course, I'm only speculating here. I don't really know. But if she is, she has pretty remarkable talent considering the fact.

Every Heart <3 30th August 2005 01:27 AM

Ayumi has a hearing condition that renders her about 80% def in one of her hears.
She isn't completely def in either ear, though.


I've heard rumors that if the condition gets worse Ayu might have to quit music. Although I've yet to see this rumor confirmed so I couldn't say if it's true or not.

Chibi_Venus 30th August 2005 01:28 AM

Yes, I wouldn't call it "deaf". Just a hearing problem in her left ear ever since once of the concert/tours. But thank goodness she's not totally deaf because that singing career would just go *plop* right down the tubes.

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:28 AM

ic.....^^ dats good to hear.... well not really.. concerning she has hearing problems but at least shes not deaf....(and i hope she never is)xD;;

truehappiness 30th August 2005 01:29 AM

I think this was quite a while ago.. hasn't it gone away since then? They never rementioned it it in the NTV interview.. weird.

Zeo

Every Heart <3 30th August 2005 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
I think this was quite a while ago.. hasn't it gone away since then? They never rementioned it it in the NTV interview.. weird.

Zeo

Maybe she just had an ear infection before? I always heard it was a condition but now that you've mentioned that I haven't heard about it since it happened either so maybe that whole "Ayu has a bad hearing condition" Talk was just rumors?

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
I think this was quite a while ago.. hasn't it gone away since then? They never rementioned it it in the NTV interview.. weird.

Zeo

.... deafness goes away?Oo;;

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Every Heart &lt (Post 3)
Maybe she just had an ear infection before? I always heard it was a condition but now that you've mentioned that I haven't heard about it since it happened either so maybe that whole "Ayu has a bad hearing condition" Talk was just rumors?

lol ic..... maybe it was just a infection... im not sure..... i never even new about the ear problem untill my friend told me..... xD;; i dont do alotta internet surfing... and i dont dig for info like .... uhhhh other ppl xD;; so yaaaaa

truehappiness 30th August 2005 01:36 AM

Well, you know if you are exposed to really high levels of volume, you'd be like 'O_O!?' and then you can't hear anything for a while? Ayu nearly lost her left ear due to the DOME TOUR 2001's high dB[decibel] level.. but since then, I think it's recovered. She was never technially deaf, there was just this creepy ringing sound in her ear that made it hard to sing.. [somewhat tone deaf-ish?] You should watch the NTV interview. :3

Zeo

hamayu 30th August 2005 01:37 AM

uhhh xD;; wat the heck is the ntv interview?.... and also i have no clue well to get it....maybe someone can upload it?xD;








(im wierd)

ImpactBreaker 30th August 2005 01:56 AM

Ayu has had ear infections before, it can be a cause of transient deafness or even cause persistence of different degrees of deafness.

Deafness has zillion causes, deafness can have different degrees (loss of hearing is deafness and it doesn't have to be "a 100% loss" like some people are implying. Even mild loss of hearing can be considered deafness) and it can be permanent or transient depending on the cause. Of course, as ayumi is an artist and has also had a history of ear infections in the past, the most common causes of hearing loss we can think of is actually the noise trauma (sensorineurall deafness) and her ear infections (conductive deafness). With proper treatment, the conductive deafness can promptly be improved while chronic neurossensorial deafness caused by noise trauma tends to be irreversible and not improve with the removal of stimullus.

truehappiness 30th August 2005 02:00 AM

/dies of scientific word usage :X

Chibi_Venus 30th August 2005 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
Ayu nearly lost her left ear due to the DOME TOUR 2001's high dB[decibel] level.. but since then, I think it's recovered.

Oh yeah that's what it was. That's what I thought...

~*Mabushii*~ 30th August 2005 02:20 AM

I think her hearing issues have gotten better, you can tell about when she had it. Some of her singing was pretty off and sometimes sounded just bad.
But I always feel sorry for her instead of being like "Oh that's crap!" when you hear it like that.. because you have to think.. she did the music for the fans and it was while/because of that , that her hearing started causing her problems.

truehappiness 30th August 2005 02:26 AM

So basically, her love and dedication for the fans ended up ruining her health.. I wonder if she's okay even now :o lol

she probably is. :3 She did do 26 concerts of AT05!

SunshineSlayer 30th August 2005 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Annabelle
She's almost deaf in the left ear. You should have posted this in "Enquiries"...

Or just done a forum search, since this topic has been discussed many, many times.

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
So basically, her love and dedication for the fans ended up ruining her health.. I wonder if she's okay even now :o lol

she probably is. :3 She did do 26 concerts of AT05!

Well, I wouldn't say she is "OK" now. When you damage your ears, it is permanent. She said just last year in a message to her fans: "Honestly speaking, I'm not in a negative mood regarding this matter.
  Because all of you listen to my songs in place of my left ear, don't you?"

Which makes it seem like she can't hear in that ear well at all.

Also, many people have said that her hearing has probably "come back." Like I said before, generally hearing loss is permanent. It's different when you have an infection - usually then your hearing will come back. Also going to concerts, afterwords for up to a few hours your hearing might be lessoned and will slowly come back - that's certainly not a sure thing though. It also takes just one sound to render you with permanent damage. (such as a bomb etc.) But the fact that Ayu is constantly hearing high decibal sounds makes it even worse. I'm still suprised that she performs as often as she does. In the past I think it was mainly Avex pushing her to do so, but now I believe it is herself. She has made comments before that if she didn't have her music, she didn't have a reason to exist. So I think she pushes herself extra hard.

I know a lot about this issue because back in May, I went to a rock concert and was right in front of the amps the whole time and my hearing was completely messed up for a week! I was seriously thinking that I was going to have permanent damage in both ears - luckily my hearing eventually came back - but I got a taste of how fearful it would be to be permanently like that. So I definitely feel for Ayumi.

What happens is, tiny little hairs in your ear pic up vibrations and then that is translated to your brain as sound. What happens when you hear loud noises, is those hairs are flattened. Generally they are resillient and will stand back up after a few hours (though in my case it took much longer). However, if they are constently pummeled or something super, super loud is heard in an instant, they will flatten permanently and thus you are left with deafness for the rest of your life as there is no surgery that can be done to fix this. They are working on a medication that will help regenerate the hairs, but so far no luck.

So yeah, uh - I don't think Ayu's left ear has "come back". I think she has just learned to live with it, as there is really nothing that can be done.

Also, that ringing she heard in her ears is called Tinnitus. Hopefully at least that has gone away because people who do have it, generally can't sleep at night unless they knock themselves out with pills or something. (could you sleep if you had constant noise in your ears?)

Sorry about the long post. :) I just got really interested in this subject after my brief experience. Now I bring earplugs to every concert I go to.

truehappiness 30th August 2005 08:05 AM

Ooo, cool! Thanks for the indepth info, SunshineSlayer! :D

RAISKA 30th August 2005 08:49 AM

In NTV 2004 they were showing, that Ayu had a problem with her ear (left). And when the interviewer asked Ayu how she was doing after that, she told:
I still can't hear anything
that's what she told in 2004! It's because of many rehersals, recordings and performances live...

SunshineSlayer 30th August 2005 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAISKA
In NTV 2004 they were showing, that Ayu had a problem with her ear (left). And when the interviewer asked Ayu how she was doing after that, she told:
I still can't hear anything
that's what she told in 2004! It's because of many rehersals, recordings and performances live...

Actually I think it was more, "I still can't answer the phone by my left ear." I'm pretty sure she isn't completely deaf in her left ear.

truehappiness 30th August 2005 10:33 AM

Well, they never actually said she lost her ear in the interview.. and wasn't the 'I can't answer the telephone' comment like, in 2002? o_o She was putting the earplug in and she was putting her head down and stuff..

Weird.
Zeo

Mad_Cactuar 30th August 2005 10:38 AM

Ayu lost her hearing in one year because of the Dome Tour? O_o, this makes showbusiness sound really unhealthy..

truehappiness 30th August 2005 10:41 AM

I think, even before the Dome Tour, she began to have problems but then as the Dome Tour progressed, it got worse.. I believe.

Zeo

fallen_crystal_h 30th August 2005 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker
Ayu has had ear infections before, it can be a cause of transient deafness or even cause persistence of different degrees of deafness.

Deafness has zillion causes, deafness can have different degrees (loss of hearing is deafness and it doesn't have to be "a 100% loss" like some people are implying. Even mild loss of hearing can be considered deafness) and it can be permanent or transient depending on the cause. Of course, as ayumi is an artist and has also had a history of ear infections in the past, the most common causes of hearing loss we can think of is actually the noise trauma (sensorineurall deafness) and her ear infections (conductive deafness). With proper treatment, the conductive deafness can promptly be improved while chronic neurossensorial deafness caused by noise trauma tends to be irreversible and not improve with the removal of stimullus.

Thanks for your information. :)
I hear that Ayumi's deaf case before but I'm not really believe it.

SunshineSlayer 30th August 2005 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
Well, they never actually said she lost her ear in the interview.. and wasn't the 'I can't answer the telephone' comment like, in 2002? o_o She was putting the earplug in and she was putting her head down and stuff..

Weird.
Zeo

The comment was from 2004, they were just showing footage from 2001 when they played the comment.

[AHS]MortalSex 30th August 2005 03:16 PM

Well, I think the rumour came from the "NTV 2004 Special Interview" in that interview they were filming her while she almost lost her LEFT ear becuase of being exposed to high decibel levels frequently..... and in the interview they tell us that she have had this problem since she was young and itīs not only recently.... then itīs up to you to trust the interview or not.... but see this on a bright side... even if ayu got a problem with her left ear she still doesnīt quit and struggles on for US(fans) that kind of spirit canīt be found anywhere and Iīm really happy for that fact.... :):):):):):):)

elepop 30th August 2005 05:59 PM

As Ayu says: "Sometimes, when I pick up the phone, I still can hear from my left (or right?) ear."

Delirium-Zer0 31st August 2005 07:06 AM

What do you people MEAN ayu couldn't compose if she were deaf?? You should go and google someone. His name's BEETHOVEN. Anyone who thinks she couldn't sing if she were deaf, look up Annie Haslam of the group Renaissance.

:P~

Ayumi no Yume 31st August 2005 07:14 AM

Really? Why didn't i hear any of this? I hope it's just temporary...Maybe Avex should be working on not putting the music up THAT loud >_>;;

truehappiness 31st August 2005 07:21 AM

Well, the music HAS to be loud enough so that it reaches all the 3000+++ fans, after all, even the people in the back need to hear.. dunno why they don't use something else, but eh~ :X

Zeo

Delirium-Zer0 31st August 2005 07:45 AM

that thing that looks like a hearing aid that singers wear in concert is a small earpiece that plays the music so ayu can hear it properly (there's too much reverb to sing along to what the sound system), and also acts as an earplug so the sound system doesn't get to the singer. I've seen ayu's fall out a few times, chances are hers just haven't fit her properly. Everyone's ear is shaped different, and it's nobody's fault if this earpiece doesn't quite fit.


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