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orenji_jaro 26th September 2005 08:02 AM

is kanariya a B-Side track???? O_o
 
i was searching a complete database of every release ayumi hamasaki albums/singles/remixes/exceprts/ etc.

it can't find kanariya on her albums... should it be in the LOVEppears album? but it wasn't on the tracklist >_<
so is kanariya a b-side single????

and if anyone here know an updated complete database of ayumi hamasaki release... can anyone share a link of it? ^^
i'm organizing my ayu albums in their release dates...^^ arigatou!

PickleCookies 26th September 2005 08:05 AM

No. It's a hidden track on LOVEppears. Keep listening to "Who..." and you'll find it.

orenji_jaro 26th September 2005 08:07 AM

*baka*..... >_<
T____T
im stupdi nyahaha! i didn't notice that... >_<
anyway anyone know a database of ayu's cd or everythign she released?

Yukitora 26th September 2005 08:52 AM

Oh btw, b-sides are songs which "come with (eg. c/w)" the main single song. B-sides are songs which appear on the single, but aren't the singles main track.

For example, HEAVEN was the a-side (main track) and will was the b-side (it came with HEAVEN). Therefore it is impossible to have a b-side single where there is only one song (excluding remixes).

Shiso 26th September 2005 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukitora
For example, HEAVEN was the a-side (main track) and will was the b-side (it came with HEAVEN). Therefore it is impossible to have a b-side single where there is only one song (excluding remixes).

HEAVEN may be a "double a-side" single...

starr5245 26th September 2005 09:39 AM

yep. not all c/w are B-sides. Take GAME for example. The only three b-sides she have are Ever free, Two of us and Theme of A-nation 2003

SunshineSlayer 26th September 2005 10:24 AM

Will is not being promoted with Heaven at all and also did not have a PV. I would consider it a B-Side. (even though I prefer it to Heaven)

Love Appears 26th September 2005 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxcyborg_kurochanxx
*baka*..... >_<
T____T
im stupdi nyahaha! i didn't notice that... >_<
anyway anyone know a database of ayu's cd or everythign she released?

Hope these links help. :)

Divine Ayu: Discography (by CD cover)
This site has scans of each CD released, including remix CDs, singles, and albums. Click on the CD covers to see the tracklistings. This one doesn't appear to be fully updated, however.

eneabba.net's song guide (by name)
Click on any song in the list to see the information about it including official remixes and albums that it appears on.

nmskalmn 26th September 2005 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxcyborg_kurochanxx
and if anyone here know an updated complete database of ayumi hamasaki release... can anyone share a link of it? ^^

Ayu Library

*Petit* 26th September 2005 08:06 PM

If a song is not a part of the title of a single and it's not included on an album, mostly it's a "B-side". There are exceptions though, f.ex the SPEED STAR by namie wasen't included on her latest album, but SPEED STAR/Girls talk was a double a-side for sure. If "will" will be considered a B-side remains unanswered, but as for now, I would consider it a B-side, since it has en't got any promotion at all except for the CM. If it appers on the next album and/or gets a PV (which seems likely to me at least) I'm unsure.

Yukitora 26th September 2005 09:42 PM

Quote:

HEAVEN may be a "double a-side" single...
It wasn't. Will was it's b-side, which is why it was called "HEAVEN c/w will"

Quote:

yep. not all c/w are B-sides. Take GAME for example. The only three b-sides she have are Ever free, Two of us and Theme of A-nation 2003
GAME was a b-side i'm sure. You are also missing alterna which was also a b-side.

B-sides do not mean they are not allowed to have many promotion at all. That is a misconception. It just means that they are not a "main track". The name derives from when singles were released on 12" inch vinyls where one song appeared on the same side (a-side) and as an extra, there was another song on the other side (the b-side).

Or in other words, a song "came with" ("c/w") the single.

Again, you can't have a b-side single if there is only one original track.

Also b-sides can appear on albums. Many don't but that is simply because it was decided that they wouldn't. Lately Ayumi has also put in lots of effort to make her b-sides the same quality as her a-sides, so it would be a waste if it weren't put into her albums.

perfectodub 26th September 2005 09:52 PM

and Theme of A-nation 2003
is not a b-side...because the song is part of a EP (EXTENDED PLAY)

and HEAVEN is a maxi single

REMEMBER:

SP (SINGLE PLAY) = 2 SONG ( in some cases with karaokes)
with one A side, like "INSPIRE" "STEP you" "poker face" "Depend on you"
and one B side, like "GAME" "is this LOVE?" "FRIEND" "Two of us"

EP (EXTENDED PLAY) (mora than 3 original songs) like "a" "}{" "&" "Memorial Address"

LP (LONG PLAY) = is a album with more than 8 songs like "I am..." or "MY STORY"

and the MAXI SINGLES that includes REMIXES and other stuff ...like HEAVEN"
"Fairyland" "Voyage" or "forgiveness"

:)

drewbilation 26th September 2005 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
and the MAXI SINGLES that includes REMIXES and other stuff ...like HEAVEN"
"Fairyland" "Voyage" or "forgiveness"

:)

No, maxi just means it's on a 12" CD.

Delirium-Zer0 27th September 2005 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love Appears
Hope these links help. :)

Divine Ayu: Discography (by CD cover)
This site has scans of each CD released, including remix CDs, singles, and albums. Click on the CD covers to see the tracklistings. This one doesn't appear to be fully updated, however.

eneabba.net's song guide (by name)
Click on any song in the list to see the information about it including official remixes and albums that it appears on.

well gee thanks for mentioning my site :( It's not complete, but it DOES have all singles & albums.

It has a search box on the corner, and the same sort of song list as at eneabba but more complete. Hope it helps.

Love Appears 27th September 2005 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0
well gee thanks for mentioning my site :( It's not complete, but it DOES have all singles & albums.

It has a search box on the corner, and the same sort of song list as at eneabba but more complete. Hope it helps.

I'm sorry Del! I've seen it in your sig so many times, but it just completely slipped my mind. I'd definitely suggest it to others as well; it's a great resource and it's very well-organized. :)

Delirium-Zer0 27th September 2005 02:16 AM

Sankyuu Love Appears you're nice again! *hugs hugs* hehehe... dont' worry about it. My site isn't the prettiest thing on earth, and it IS horribly incomplete. But it at least has a big ol' song list! :)

I REALLY need to get those CM pages finished x_X!!

perfectodub 27th September 2005 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dokidokisuru
No, maxi just means it's on a 12" CD.


CD MAXI SINGLE

Voyege, forgiveness Moments, No way to say are
COMPACT DISC MAXI SINGLES (cd singles)


:D

Yukitora 27th September 2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
and Theme of A-nation 2003
is not a b-side...because the song is part of a EP (EXTENDED PLAY)

and HEAVEN is a maxi single

REMEMBER:

SP (SINGLE PLAY) = 2 SONG ( in some cases with karaokes)
with one A side, like "INSPIRE" "STEP you" "poker face" "Depend on you"
and one B side, like "GAME" "is this LOVE?" "FRIEND" "Two of us"

EP (EXTENDED PLAY) (mora than 3 original songs) like "a" "}{" "&" "Memorial Address"

LP (LONG PLAY) = is a album with more than 8 songs like "I am..." or "MY STORY"

and the MAXI SINGLES that includes REMIXES and other stuff ...like HEAVEN"
"Fairyland" "Voyage" or "forgiveness"

:)

is this LOVE? was an A-side mind you... Her first double a-side. Other wondered why the single was called STEP you/is this LOVE? and no STEP you or STEP you c/w is this LOVE?

Plus on her H single add it says "new maxi single... H" H. did not contain remixes.

Delirium-Zer0 27th September 2005 10:02 PM

I think 4 or less tracks, regardless, is just a single, and anything more is a maxi single.

perfectodub 28th September 2005 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukitora
is this LOVE? was an A-side mind you... Her first double a-side. Other wondered why the single was called STEP you/is this LOVE? and no STEP you or STEP you c/w is this LOVE?

Plus on her H single add it says "new maxi single... H" H. did not contain remixes.


is this LOVE? is a B-SIDE (LIKE will or GAME)
}{ is a EP (like &)

REALLY :)

leafyamazaki 28th September 2005 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
CD MAXI SINGLE

Voyege, forgiveness Moments, No way to say are
COMPACT DISC MAXI SINGLES (cd singles)


:D

I think dokidokisuru meant to type "12cm CD" instead of 12".

Yukitora 28th September 2005 04:22 PM

No it's not... what proof do you have? Never heard of a double-a side single?

edit: response to perfectdub (or whatever his was is...)

drewbilation 28th September 2005 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leafyamazaki
I think dokidokisuru meant to type "12cm CD" instead of 12".

Oh, yeah, I did~ actually, I didn't really know the difference... I'm not good with measuring things ;_; 12 inches is much too big for a CD, isn't it? =x

Delirium-Zer0 28th September 2005 05:15 PM

12 inches is the size of a vinyl record. the term 12" is used as a substitute for "analog" or "record" or "LP" when talking about them. Usually that's what they use on online CD stores where it says the format of a release.

ayu_fan929 5th November 2005 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
is this LOVE? is a B-SIDE (LIKE will or GAME)
}{ is a EP (like &)

REALLY :)

uhhh....no "is this LOVE?" is clearly a DOUBLE A-SIDE single. that is y it was included in the title with a "/" seperating the 2 song names n not a "c/w".

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
CD MAXI SINGLE

Voyege, forgiveness Moments, No way to say are
COMPACT DISC MAXI SINGLES (cd singles)
:D

Maxi singles just mean there are more than 1 title song in the cd.

Moments, CAROLS r examples of a "CD SINGLE"
STEP you/is this LOVE?, fairyland c/w alterna, HEAVEN (c/w Will) r all examples of "MAXI SINGLES"

n sum ppl think that INSPIRE is a double a-side single but w/e

Joel 5th November 2005 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
Will is not being promoted with Heaven at all and also did not have a PV. I would consider it a B-Side. (even though I prefer it to Heaven)

But B-sides wouldnt come with an instumental... So I would think that Will will be on the album.

perfectodub 5th November 2005 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

Maxi singles just mean there are more than 1 title song in the cd.

Moments, CAROLS r examples of a "CD SINGLE"
STEP you/is this LOVE?, fairyland c/w alterna, HEAVEN (c/w Will) r all examples of "MAXI SINGLES"

n sum ppl think that INSPIRE is a double a-side single but w/e

Error... Moments, CAROLS are not singles...are maxi singles

A maxi single or maxi-single is a music single release with more than the usual two tracks

The term came into wide use in the 1980s, where it usually referred to 12" vinyl singles with 3 or 4 tracks. A typical practice was to release a 2-song single on 7" vinyl and cassette, and a maxi-single on 12" vinyl.


see this link :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi_single


.

Halla 5th November 2005 10:43 AM

maxi single looks like a normal cd , this is how a 8cm cd-single looks like
http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/8...rlcd9wp.th.jpg

ayu_fan929 5th November 2005 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by perfectodub
Error... Moments, CAROLS are not singles...are maxi singles

A maxi single or maxi-single is a music single release with more than the usual two tracks

The term came into wide use in the 1980s, where it usually referred to 12" vinyl singles with 3 or 4 tracks. A typical practice was to release a 2-song single on 7" vinyl and cassette, and a maxi-single on 12" vinyl.


see this link :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxi_single


.


uhhh no.

a single is a cd that has only 1 original song
ie: Moments:
1 Moments(Original Mix)
2 Moments(Acoustic Piano Version)
3 Moments(Flying humanoid Mix)
4 Moments(Original Mix -Instrumental
-)
Moments is a CD-Single cos it really only has 1 real song, Moments. n this is also y its called a "single". same thing w/CAROLS:
1 CAROLS ″Original Mix″
2 CAROLS ″Criminal Tribal Mix″
3 CAROLS ″Hammond B-3 Whisper″
4 CAROLS ″Original Mix″(Instrumental)

only 1 original song-->CAROLS.

Maxi-Singles r CD's that have more than 1 original songs
ie: fairyland c/w alterna:
1 fairyland (original mix)
2 alterna (original mix)
3 STEP you (remix)
4 fairyland (remix)
5 fairland (instrumental)
6 alterna (instrumental)

fairyland is a Maxi-Single, cos there is more than 1 original (original doesnt count remixes) song, fairyland & alterna. that is y theres a "Maxi" added in front of the word "single".

perfectodub 7th November 2005 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
uhhh no.

a single is a cd that has only 1 original song
ie: Moments:
1 Moments(Original Mix)
2 Moments(Acoustic Piano Version)
3 Moments(Flying humanoid Mix)
4 Moments(Original Mix -Instrumental
-)
Moments is a CD-Single cos it really only has 1 real song, Moments. n this is also y its called a "single". same thing w/CAROLS:
1 CAROLS ″Original Mix″
2 CAROLS ″Criminal Tribal Mix″
3 CAROLS ″Hammond B-3 Whisper″
4 CAROLS ″Original Mix″(Instrumental)

only 1 original song-->CAROLS.

Maxi-Singles r CD's that have more than 1 original songs
ie: fairyland c/w alterna:
1 fairyland (original mix)
2 alterna (original mix)
3 STEP you (remix)
4 fairyland (remix)
5 fairland (instrumental)
6 alterna (instrumental)

fairyland is a Maxi-Single, cos there is more than 1 original (original doesnt count remixes) song, fairyland & alterna. that is y theres a "Maxi" added in front of the word "single".

the number of "ORIGINAL" tracks don't care IN A MAXI SINGLE....the number of track list is the matter...

"Moments" is a maxi single like "Boys & Girls"....
i been working with maxi single for 10 years

i have the full collection of singles and maxi singles of MADONNA (75 cds) and she has maxi singles with 12 remixes of the same original track...and that's is a maxi single....IN SOME CASE "EP" (EXTENDED PLAY)
:)


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