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norain 27th December 2005 06:30 PM

Album Authentication Help
 
Can someone tell me if these are authentic (no not authentic bootlegs)
I want to buy more but x_x dunno how to tell.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Ayumi-Hamasaki-3...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ayumi-Hamasaki-D...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/AYUMI-HAMASAKI-D...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ayumi-Hamasaki-A...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Ayumi-Hamasaki-L...QQcmdZViewItem

::HELP:: :thud

stardusties 27th December 2005 06:35 PM

e.e....I think the last 4 lnks are bootlegs...but i'm not so sure on the first one

Raleigh 27th December 2005 06:48 PM

Let's see. For a first always check the feedback of the seller to get a better idea of what they are selling. The first one looks authentic. The second one I'm not too sure but looks like an OS Version, same goes to the others.

ohsixthirty 27th December 2005 06:49 PM

the last 4 definitely look like bootlegs...but the first auction, i'm not sure of. i notice the RAINBOW cd lists the song RAINBOW as track 00, and i'm not sure it was listed like that, but i can't remember for sure as i haven't really paid attention.

Indie 27th December 2005 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by touchedstar
the last 4 definitely look like bootlegs...but the first auction, i'm not sure of. i notice the RAINBOW cd lists the song RAINBOW as track 00, and i'm not sure it was listed like that, but i can't remember for sure as i haven't really paid attention.

I rememebr reading that edition listed RAINBOW as track 00, it's even on Divine AYU.

the ayu page at enneaba (it's from a user here, I don't remember his/her name) tells you almost every bootleg out there, you can check out those.

Delirium-Zer0 27th December 2005 08:46 PM

Actually, this is really funny.

The ones you think are bootlegs? ALL official chinese releases. :P They look awful, I know, but they ARE licensed by avex for distribution in mainland china by China Record Shanghai Corporation. But they're real.

The first auction? ALL of them are high-quality bootlegs manufactured by a US group called Alion International. NONE are released under avex; just very convincing photocopies.

ShadowMehMeh 28th December 2005 05:05 AM

Finally I have that Alion International thing cleared up. XD I have three of Ayu's CDs, RAINBOW, A BALLADS, and I am... but when I saw "Alion" printed in the corner on the back of all the CDs I got a little skeptical about it. I suspected that I am... was bootleg a while after I got it because there were really pale yellow/blue/pink scribbles on the first two pages of the booklet insert.

Not only that, but I looked at DivineAyu's CD scans and I noticed that the CDs I had looked nothing like what I saw on DivineAyu. For instance, the CD for I am... was tan-colored, but the one I have is a bold orange color. The CD for A BALLADS is supposed to be plain cream-colored with a little black design on it, but my CD has the album cover printed on it. Same with RAINBOW.

I also used to think that they were officially released Taiwanese copies... they said "Made in Taiwan" but yeah I was naive...

Beyond the Sea 28th December 2005 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0
Actually, this is really funny.

The ones you think are bootlegs? ALL official chinese releases. :P They look awful, I know, but they ARE licensed by avex for distribution in mainland china by China Record Shanghai Corporation. But they're real.

The first auction? ALL of them are high-quality bootlegs manufactured by a US group called Alion International. NONE are released under avex; just very convincing photocopies.

Exactly!

orangeland 28th December 2005 05:51 AM

yep, Delirium-Zer0 is right. and guess what? they're the NEW mainland releases. how are they new? well, in the past, avex cds have cost around 58 RMB (~7-8 USD), a price chinese people can't usually afford. these new versions (called "simpler versions") are around 2 USD and only come w/ an insert (much like a single insert) and no booklet. :).

ShadowMehMeh 28th December 2005 06:50 AM

Aww. But Ayu's booklets are neat...

norain 28th December 2005 07:56 AM

7-8 dollars? NEH? O_O lol

Delirium-Zer0 28th December 2005 11:54 PM

Wow, i'm glad i helped out with the Alion thing! I've been running into their stuff alot for the last few years. They have a nice looking "MY STORY" bootleg too.

Thank orangeland for info on the chinese releases... i initially thought they were bootlegs too, and really stood by that, till he showed me ayu's official chinese site. I apologized for being so stubborn. (remember that? :P)

elepop 29th December 2005 12:19 AM

If it's not avex trax, for me... it's fake.

RAINBOW: Track number 00 = RAINBOW? Humm...

Duty: FAKE! Notice the chinese words? And the stickers? And the "Chinese Record Shanghai Corporation"?

A Song for XX: Once again. Stickers. Chinese words. "Chinese Record Shanghai Corporation". FAKE!

LOVEppears: Same as for "ASFXX". FAKE!

orangeland 29th December 2005 01:04 AM

it's all good Delirium-Zer0 :)

asongforXX - i want you to check the Avex China Official Site and the China Record Shanghai Corporation Site.

elepop 29th December 2005 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeland
it's all good Delirium-Zer0 :)

asongforXX - i want you to check the Avex China Official Site and the China Record Shanghai Corporation Site.

Oh, I know. I read the post above saying that China Record Shanghai Corporation is with avex. But the "LOVEppears" cover... so ugly... LOL.

orangeland 29th December 2005 01:23 AM

i know, i think it's a censorship issue >_<. haha

lotusoka 29th December 2005 01:28 AM

I've bought from titan-giant before... great seller. They aren't bootlegs, they are just HK editions. There was a thread about this.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...t=China+Record


I recently bought cyber trance 2 from him/her.


First one IS a bootleg. Alion gives it away. I bought RAINBOW and I am... off of ebay and realized after I gave positive feedback that they were bootlegged. I ended up just buying them from yesasia.

~K+ 29th December 2005 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lotusoka
I've bought from titan-giant before... great seller. They aren't bootlegs, they are just HK editions. There was a thread about this.

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...t=China+Record

To avoid further confusion, they are Mainland China versions, not HK versions.

The Overseas versions you'll find on Yesasia, are HK versions.

Anyway, I wouldn't recommend buying Mainland China versions, stick to Avex Hong Kong or Avex Taiwan's pressings.

elepop 29th December 2005 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeland
i know, i think it's a censorship issue >_<. haha

Should be! Since the chinese words are right on her chest!

norain 29th December 2005 03:31 AM

I have a mystory from taiwan. It's good

orangeland 29th December 2005 04:10 AM

lol honestly, if you want an opinion from someone who's bought mainland releases -- it's only "fun" to buy mainland releases when you're actually in the mainland. a) b/c its so freaking cheap, b) you get a free poster depending on where you go (i got four this time :D). really, if you're purchasing online, shipping costs are gonna make it not worth buying. i would stick w/ taiwan,hk, or japan versions if buying online.

btw -- once you get past all the logos/stickers on the cover & cd itself, there is NOOO difference b/w them and other versions (well, except translations sheets and whatnot). just reiterating :)

momobean 29th December 2005 05:52 AM

I bought the No way to say single and Hitomi Shimatani's crossover album in Mainland. It was fun but I regret buying the No way to say single now :(

lotusoka 29th December 2005 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~K+
To avoid further confusion, they are Mainland China versions, not HK versions.

The Overseas versions you'll find on Yesasia, are HK versions.

Anyway, I wouldn't recommend buying Mainland China versions, stick to Avex Hong Kong or Avex Taiwan's pressings.

Sorry if I caused any confusion. :headache

bondingo 1st January 2006 01:09 AM

I bought 'RAINBOW' and 'I am' at this store in Boston called Tokyo Kid and later found out why it said Alion International instead of avex. I went on http://www.eneabba.net/ayu and saw that the official 'I am' CD had a white dove while the 'I am' that I bought just had the cover of the CD printed as a CD label. Same thing with 'RAINBOW' but it had a different label.

Also, I bought 'My Story' from 'animefurusato' (the guy who is selling the first Ayu CD bundle) and found out that that one was fake, but instead of saying Alion on the back, it said Miya Records, which is also a bootlegging company. So just make sure that you look out for those.

Now I only buy J-Pop CDs off of yesasia.com and everything they sell is legit ^_^

Baernash 1st January 2006 04:00 AM

ALL R BOOTLEGS!!!

Why u r searching for CD on e-bay? 99% of CDs there is BOOTLEG. Go to YesAsia and order cheaper OS version released by Avex Trax TW but don't pay cheaters from ALION ENTERTAINMENT - or something like that - (first one link) for damn bootlegs :shakehead

ayu_fan929 1st January 2006 05:45 AM

just spend a couple bucks more n buy the overseas avex editions from yesasia or cdjapan etc.

Qt Mashi 1st January 2006 06:19 PM

to put it simply...

1. bootlegs, as Delirium-Zer0 said, they are high quality bootlegs but still fake!

2. typical bootleg

3. the same link? bootleg too~~

4. real! it's officially under Avex, although it looks like a bootleg because of it's chinese writing, it's not overseas version, it's China version so it's only sold around China...(ugly chinese writing) :P

5. same as no.4, real but China version...(ugly chinese writing) :P

superdonut 2nd January 2006 04:31 AM

Yeah, some of these are her Chinese versions... her name is in Chinese.... if it's Japanese, Ayumi is in Hiragana... ^^

Delirium-Zer0 4th January 2006 04:50 AM

QT Mashi: nope, none of them are bootlegs. Both copies of Duty shown here have "China Record Shanghai Corporation" on the tape you pull to open the wrapper as well as the holographic avex logo sticker. Usually those holographic stickers scream "bootleg" to me too, but none so far have ever had an accurate avex logo. And yes, the chinese text printed on the cover is actually there. Compare it to the image on her official chinese site: http://www.avexnet.cn/album.asp?disc_id=3

norain 4th January 2006 05:37 AM

Well I have bought from eBay before. The album I bought "MY STORY" was indeed authentic. So I tried looking for more...but since the albums I want are old per say...yeah...Yesasia it is then...

ShadowMehMeh 4th January 2006 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo
I bought 'RAINBOW' and 'I am' at this store in Boston called Tokyo Kid and later found out why it said Albion International instead of avex. I went on http://www.eneabba.net/ayu and saw that the official 'I am' CD had a white dove while the 'I am' that I bought just had the cover of the CD printed as a CD label. Same thing with 'RAINBOW' but it had a different label.

Also, I bought 'My Story' from 'animefurusato' (the guy who is selling the first Ayu CD bundle) and found out that that one was fake, but instead of saying Albion on the back, it said Miya Records, which is also a bootlegging company. So just make sure that you look out for those.

Now I only buy J-Pop CDs off of yesasia.com and everything they sell is legit ^_^


You mean Alion right? 'Cause I also have "RAINBOW" and "I am..." and I have the same issue with the CD labels that you do. =\

Mirai Noah 5th January 2006 07:16 PM

^ Yeah, it's Alion I think. My friend gave me copies with "Alion" written on them, and the labels were wrong.

ShadowMehMeh 5th January 2006 11:06 PM

Yup. All my CD labels are all crapped up. But everything else looks just like the actual avex release.

fεяnαndδ 7th January 2006 09:10 PM

Wow. What a heated debate.

All of them look like complete bootlegs to me.

bondingo 14th January 2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowMehMeh
You mean Alion right? 'Cause I also have "RAINBOW" and "I am..." and I have the same issue with the CD labels that you do. =\

Oh, yeah. It's Alion, sorry about that ^_^

sexysaucestar 15th January 2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterkill
Wow. What a heated debate.

All of them look like complete bootlegs to me.

I thought the same, too..but somebody already clarified it above.

It is quite sad that most people scream "BOOTLEG" when they see all Chinese characters written on Ayu's stuff...[when in fact those really are official Chinese releases..]

It's good to know that Avex made things slightly cheaper for Mainland Chinese though...when I went to China to visit some relatives, I could see how a lot of people in the village probably couldn't afford high-quality things like CDs/DVDs and such...I mean, $1 = 7-8 yuan....so a typical overseas release [around $20] would be 160 yuan for them...which is probably around half the amount they make for monthly income...

Anyway; best thing to do if you do buy Ayu from eBay...always check via Yesasia/CD Japan for official tracklistings; if the CDs you find on eBay have extra tracklistings than what's listed on Yesasia/CD Japan, don't buy those! Those are most likely bootlegs.

Oh..and I never knew that eneabba had a guide to figure out bootlegs! Haha...okay I'll stop now, haha, this is a long post reply! ^^;

Delirium-Zer0 15th January 2006 10:08 PM

The Mainland is still catching up with ayu's older releases too... they only JUST released A Song for XX.

Cloud 17th January 2006 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orangeland
yep, Delirium-Zer0 is right. and guess what? they're the NEW mainland releases. how are they new? well, in the past, avex cds have cost around 58 RMB (~7-8 USD), a price chinese people can't usually afford. these new versions (called "simpler versions") are around 2 USD and only come w/ an insert (much like a single insert) and no booklet. :).

actually the re-priced versions are WITH the booklets.

orangeland 17th January 2006 06:57 AM

^ really? then i got jipped. :P my dad got me a copy of "acoustic:latte" and it only came as slip and a mini poster. xP

Cloud 17th January 2006 04:49 PM

ACOUSTIC: LATTE was meant to be like that.


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