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elvis810 26th January 2006 06:39 AM

[Official] Startin'/Born To Be info
 
http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/news/060126.html

New Single
Startin'/Born To Be...
3月8日 発売
CD+DVD:AVCD-30961/B ¥1,890 (tax incl.)
CD:AVCD-30962 ¥1,050 (tax incl.)
※【CD】と【CD+DVD】はそれぞれジャケットが異なります。

" Startin' "
●カプコン 新鬼武者 DAWN OF DREAMS テーマソング
" Born To Be... "
●日本テレビ系 トリノ五輪 テーマソング

《収録内容》
■ CD
Startin'
Born To Be...
teens -acoustic version-

■ DVD
Startin' <video clip>
Born To Be...<video clip>

Nice~

Qt Mashi 26th January 2006 06:42 AM

oh~~ kool, i wish there could be some remixes and some acoustic piano song :(

perfectodub 26th January 2006 06:49 AM

GREAT EP

Endlessoul 26th January 2006 06:51 AM

No instrumental no Panasonic CM? Hmm...

Creamy Ayumi 26th January 2006 07:08 AM

thanks for news!^^

truehappiness 26th January 2006 07:10 AM

DO NOT ASSUME THERE ARE NO INSTRUMENTALS, they sort of did this last time and people were all 'omg no instrumentalszozsdas' :x

Person who posted this, can you please say that :[ /dies

Vinylfantasy 26th January 2006 07:27 AM

teens? This should be interesting...

DA1SUK1DAY01691 26th January 2006 07:57 AM

I never heard the original teens, but I hope it's good! And i can't wait for instrumentals! *prays* no backing voice...

AznWizKidz 26th January 2006 08:01 AM

ooo nice!@

Raleigh 26th January 2006 09:16 AM

Thanks for the tracklisting. Guess we must wait and see if there will be the instrumentals included.

HanabiChick 26th January 2006 10:18 AM

Thanks for the info - two PVs, very nice.

bluegie 26th January 2006 10:38 AM

hmmn... a really good tracklist i guess :P and finally no more Panasonic. :D

truehappiness 26th January 2006 10:41 AM

They could always change something :p After all, singles/albums don't usually get printed until a week or so before the date, right? :o

bluegie 26th January 2006 10:46 AM

yeah i think so.. I'm pretty sure it will have instrumentals... avex's not that stupid... only toshiba would do such stupid move. LOL

starr5245 26th January 2006 10:54 AM

How interesting.. The song "teens". I'm speculating that it'll be something about Ayu's past and how much she misses teenage life.

[taskin.ayu] 26th January 2006 11:03 AM

I'm interested by the teens song. xD This is very exciting since it was ages since we got a 3 song single like this. :3

truehappiness 26th January 2006 11:16 AM

omg. Please think people! And read! Teens is a song that will be covered by Ayu that was originally done by TRF. omg. RESEAARRCCH :[.

/feels really blah

Sweer 26th January 2006 12:07 PM

^easy boy (or gal) ^^"

though I thought there were some more remixes, but maybe they'll reveal the remix names later on

kiseki89 26th January 2006 12:25 PM

From YesAsia 2 Jackets :
Startin' / Born To Be... (SINGLE+DVD)(Jacket A)(Japan Version)
Startin' / Born To Be... (Jacket B)(Japan Version)
Going to be broke... I wonder if there's any PV on (miss)understood songs

elepop 26th January 2006 02:11 PM

Three songs, yay! Looking forward to this.

OMG, another double a-sides singles... I hope it doesn't sound like "fairyland".

tokyoxjapanxfan 26th January 2006 02:17 PM

cool! thanks for the info!!! :D

Mad_Cactuar 26th January 2006 02:18 PM

Yay! 2 PVs!!

alternarist 26th January 2006 03:02 PM

what? 3 original tracks only? hmm... since its from the official site, i will take it.

ayu_fan929 26th January 2006 03:16 PM

^is "teens" even an original track? isnt it a tribute song to TRF or sumthing?

Yarumi 26th January 2006 03:27 PM

oh, well since I really know nothing of TRF I wonder what it sounds like

how can we research something being a cover when most of us only know a handful of Japanese bands and singers?

thanks for the news

I hope it will contain a PV from (miss) understood, like Criminal or (miss) understood! Course thats really big thinking huh ;_;

elepop 26th January 2006 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
^is "teens" even an original track? isnt it a tribute song to TRF or sumthing?

Yup, it is a tribute to TRF.

iphis 26th January 2006 04:11 PM

there's no instrumental track??

that's not happened before

Tasked 26th January 2006 04:12 PM

there ARE instrument tracks.... as zeo said, they did this before... they just DON'T ANNOUNCE instruments this much time in advance.

sexysaucestar 26th January 2006 04:17 PM

Wasn't this news repeated in another thread already?

Anyway, thanks for the news..

elepop 26th January 2006 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soysaucestar
Wasn't this news repeated in another thread already?

Anyway, thanks for the news..

Well this is officially confirmed from Ayu's site.

Axel_Grease 26th January 2006 04:56 PM

Thanks for posting the news.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweer
though I thought there were some more remixes, but maybe they'll reveal the remix names later on

True.

Hopefully the images for the jackets will change.

elepop 26th January 2006 05:54 PM

I really, but really really hope the two covers are original and creative. Meaning, not just Ayu's face ("STEP you", "fairyland", "MY STORY", "(miss)understood", "HEAVEN")... This is getting quite boring. Hopefully, there's a scenery or something. Otsuka and Koda's CD covers designers are way better. Ayu should get new CD covers designers...

evolution7931 26th January 2006 05:56 PM

Thanks for posting the news! Sounds interesting =]
Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie
hmmn... a really good tracklist i guess :P and finally no more Panasonic. :D

what's so great about 'no more panasonic' ? the panasonic CMs do provide alot of publicity..

evolution105 26th January 2006 06:28 PM

Excellent tracklist. so thats one song thats going to be amazing on the new album. can't say much bout Born To Be... yet but hopefully it will be good. I wish she would stop these double a-sides. or at least just have one double a's for the year.

ohsixthirty 26th January 2006 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qt Mashi
oh~~ kool, i wish there could be some remixes and some acoustic piano song :(

me too, but this tracklist is nice too. :)

+Etra 26th January 2006 07:44 PM

What the crap is TRF? >.>

Delirium-Zer0 26th January 2006 08:24 PM

A jpop group founded by Tetsuya Komuro that's been around for ages and sold all sorts of records. They appeared at an ayu concert (CDL 2002-2003) to perform a medley of their songs with her too. It was spiffy.

Question, did this really need a new thread? There's really nothing new here, just confirmation of it.

lotusoka 26th January 2006 08:47 PM

Sweet, Thanks for the info.

Cyria 26th January 2006 10:14 PM

I'd forgotten she'd be covering teens. :) I'm feeling quite positive about this single now.

sexysaucestar 26th January 2006 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Question, did this really need a new thread? There's really nothing new here, just confirmation of it.

I was wondering the same thing; this info may be confirmed from Ayu's official site, but...it's basically saying the same thing the other thread said. Oh well.

tokyoxjapanxfan 26th January 2006 11:00 PM

i can't wait for this single! and i am actually not going to listen to any of the song (except for when her site has previews) until i get the cd! well, this goes for "Born To Be..." and her version of "teens -acoustic version-", since i have the original teens hehehe

and as for the cover, I really hope to see something cool!!! hehe ;)

Eigakan 26th January 2006 11:03 PM

great news, can't wait for the PV, it's a shame that there's not going to be a Panasonic CM

hana_sanctuary 26th January 2006 11:07 PM

Ah~ hopefully there is a remix thrown in there?

Anyway, What's with people saying "finally no Panasonic!" O_o She needs Panasonic as much as they need her~ promotion! Gets people interested to buy the single. And considering (miss)understood sales, having an endorsement is a plus.

Tasked 26th January 2006 11:20 PM

actually I read that Ayu will do the CMs for the upcoming Panasonic Lumix FZ7/LZ5. I think Born to Be... will get 1 (if not 8) panasonic CMs.. It's an olympic-song.... and look at what that did to Daybreak xD

bluegie 26th January 2006 11:29 PM

LZ5?? is that something about the size 16:9? if so that would be cool.. cuz I always hope ayu will do a cm for the product line... :D

Tasked 26th January 2006 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluegie
LZ5?? is that something about the size 16:9? if so that would be cool.. cuz I always hope ayu will do a cm for the product line... :D

lol I have NO IDEA :P I don't know much technicle stuff about those things =) but a good chance Ayu will do CMs for them.

Brittany 26th January 2006 11:43 PM

"teens?" What a name :rolleyes

Oh well.

I'll be buying this anyways.

Raleigh 27th January 2006 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rody!
actually I read that Ayu will do the CMs for the upcoming Panasonic Lumix FZ7/LZ5. I think Born to Be... will get 1 (if not 8) panasonic CMs.. It's an olympic-song.... and look at what that did to Daybreak xD

Awesome. I really cannot wait. I love Panasonic CMs.

tl1029530921 27th January 2006 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asongforXX
I really, but really really hope the two covers are original and creative. Meaning, not just Ayu's face ("STEP you", "fairyland", "MY STORY", "(miss)understood", "HEAVEN")... This is getting quite boring. Hopefully, there's a scenery or something. Otsuka and Koda's CD covers designers are way better. Ayu should get new CD covers designers...

i agree. I miss ayu's weird original covers...:(. Now its just face + pretty background.

sexysaucestar 27th January 2006 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hana_sanctuary
Ah~ hopefully there is a remix thrown in there?

Anyway, What's with people saying "finally no Panasonic!" O_o She needs Panasonic as much as they need her~ promotion! Gets people interested to buy the single. And considering (miss)understood sales, having an endorsement is a plus.


Yeah, I don't get why people are saying "no Panasonic"...I think those people probably just don't like Panasonic products. But I personally like Ayu endorsing the Panasonic products because I think it really does help her sales...plus the CMs are fun to watch!

CREA.tive 27th January 2006 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soysaucestar
Yeah, I don't get why people are saying "no Panasonic"...I think those people probably just don't like Panasonic products. But I personally like Ayu endorsing the Panasonic products because I think it really does help her sales...plus the CMs are fun to watch!

totally agree with you:yes

evolution105 27th January 2006 02:52 AM

since most of us already heard "startin'" how do you think the PV will be? Being that it's so upbeat.

maybe I should make a new thread? -meh- someone will in time.

sexysaucestar 27th January 2006 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution105
since most of us already heard "startin'" how do you think the PV will be? Being that it's so upbeat.

maybe I should make a new thread? -meh- someone will in time.

You should start a thread in the Ayu Chat Room :yes :)

Zacek 27th January 2006 04:29 AM

Thank you very much for the info!

DA1SUK1DAY01691 27th January 2006 06:10 AM

so ayu's cover is a ballad? since it's a acoustic version... never heard the original Teens.

Qt Mashi 27th January 2006 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soysaucestar
Yeah, I don't get why people are saying "no Panasonic"...I think those people probably just don't like Panasonic products. But I personally like Ayu endorsing the Panasonic products because I think it really does help her sales...plus the CMs are fun to watch!

yeah i love Panasonic CM's~~

truehappiness 27th January 2006 07:09 AM

TRF's usually made dance-pop tracks that become fan-favorites and etc. They don't usually do ballads and such, so it'll probably just be a version with real instruments rather than the synthesizer and turntabling.. :o and stuff xD

mui-gei-tal 27th January 2006 07:13 AM

2 PVs? awesome!

fεяnαndδ 27th January 2006 07:31 AM

YAY! I can't wait! One single closer to her fiftieth (if she even REACHES her fiftieth! XD). Woo!

pbs1605 27th January 2006 08:30 AM

Thanks for the info.

Mad_Cactuar 27th January 2006 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brittany
Oh well.

I'll be buying this anyways.

Yeah, I dont really care for the song titles. Rest assured, the songs are always good.

freedreamer 27th January 2006 04:17 PM

Im sure they will update sooner or later...The full tracklist will then be out...Hopefully there will be a PV for a new song hope...

HanabiChick 27th January 2006 05:28 PM

^it does say on Ayu's site that on the DVD there are PVs for two songs, so that's been confirmed already.

Raleigh 27th January 2006 05:38 PM

Yeah MC is right plus most of Ayu's titles are bizarre yet good, example STEP you.

Brittany 27th January 2006 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk
Yeah MC is right plus most of Ayu's titles are bizarre yet good, example STEP you.

Well, the titles aren't 'bizarre' this time, but quite normal and understandable :laugh ;)

Anyways, I'm excited to see the covers :) :)

truehappiness 28th January 2006 03:03 AM

I really feel like kicking some of the people who think that teens is some new Ayu song that she'll make a PV for.

:p /dies Anyways, yay for the single<3

ayu_fan929 28th January 2006 03:38 AM

^LOL. yea, there will be no PV for teens i think. maybe possibly a new PV for 1 of her (m)u album songs?? (ie: my name's WOMAN on STEP you/is this LOVE? single?)

truehappiness 28th January 2006 04:21 AM

uh; Obviously. Ayu is COVERING teens. JEEZ.

People, TRF are the original people who did teens. Ayu is just doing a tribute song. OMG. /dies

Ayumi no Yume 28th January 2006 04:53 AM

Song names make me lack interest.
I really wonder what the cover will look like..

Neo Daydream 28th January 2006 04:53 AM

exciting! can't wait!

*+Dark.Night.Angel.+* 28th January 2006 07:12 AM

I find teens prettu interesting... makes me think of her first singles in which there were only the main instrumentals, "maybe" a remix and an acoustic version of a song hehehehe... really simple.

And also reminds me of the My Story singles which were very simple.

*+D.N.A.+*

SunshineSlayer 28th January 2006 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
I really feel like kicking some of the people who think that teens is some new Ayu song that she'll make a PV for.

:p /dies Anyways, yay for the single<3

Same goes for me. I also kind of :rolleyes at people that are saying there should be more PVs on it or more of this or more of that. There are going to be 3 songs and 2 PVs on a SINGLE - the only thing Ayu is required to release on a single is ONE song. Anything more than that is simply bonus that we should feel thankful for.

truehappiness 28th January 2006 07:48 AM

Seriously. Ayu's spoiled her fanbase in like, almost every way possible. [her constant #1s, her many tracks on singles, many photoshoots.., consistent sales..]

I think that because of this, we expect way WAY too much out of Ayu. For instance the whole (miss)understood thing and B&D not selling well.. it's sort of dumb.. x.x Most Japanese albums don't really get past 500k, do they? :\ and what about singles? Many sell under 10k! ;_;

Raleigh 28th January 2006 08:42 AM

^ Plus now all Ayu fans will expect a double A single or whatever it is called and when she'll release one song for the single with remixes and instrumentals people will be disappointed and the sales will probably be less.

truehappiness 28th January 2006 09:25 AM

Nah. Sales were low even for B&D, but that was TERRIBLE timing. Anyways, I think that she'd get in the high 200k, low 300k even if she did one song singles again. I have a feeling she'll do a one-song after Startin', but it's just a feeling :p

Weren't people disappointed when Free and Easy only had four tracks? That's like 10x worse, I guess :p From 10 jillion remixes to like, one or two. :\

Raleigh 28th January 2006 09:55 AM

Yeah but remember that B&D wasn't a song which was really loved among the public plus it was prior to the album release.

People are always disappointed somehow. Now imagine how they'll be disappointed after a year and more of double A sides and then they get a single with one song and a couple of remixes.

Mad_Cactuar 28th January 2006 10:02 AM

Probably a B-Side was what she thinks will make the sales go up? Maybe it might work if it was excluded from her future album.

Raleigh 28th January 2006 10:06 AM

Yeah that's the main idea behind it - to get more sales. However yeah as you said if it gets included in the upcoming album we'll have 6-8 single tracks again which is not so great imo. I prefer a lot of non-single songs. If it was excluded from the album it would be fantastic but few songs actually do get excluded from her albums. I've only seen a few being excluded like ever free, theme of a nation '03 and Two of Us. I think teens will be excluded though.

truehappiness 28th January 2006 10:24 AM

The positive thing for me is that if she doesn't release Born to Be now and we're all dying for it, then it's like '...' and if its an album track, then there's a slight chance it might not get a PV, whereas if it is featured on the single, you have a really high chance of getting a PV for it. I think that it's a sort of lose-lose situation either way. If it's a single song as well, you might consider it too early and you might just put it off. But if it were an album song, you'd be stuck waiting and you might not even get a PV out of the wait. I'd rather take the earlier release + a PV. :\

I mean, what would things be like if Ayu hadn't released is this LOVE, alterna, Will or Pride at the time? The singles would pretty much be all.. blah. And we'd be sort of left with a long wait for more songs and a chance of no PVs. :[

There is no real reason for Ayu to put teens on the album anyway. It's already on LIF-E-MOTION, so why put it on another, especially a 'remix' version. Plus.. Ayu's never put a cover [note: someone else's words AND composition] on a studio album.. and once on a BEST album. So I don't see why one might think teens would make it on there..

ayu_fan929 28th January 2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
Most Japanese albums don't really get past 500k, do they? :\ and what about singles? Many sell under 10k! ;_;

roughly 25 albums sold past 500k last yr, n usually around 100 singles pass the 100k mark

Raleigh 28th January 2006 04:36 PM

Personally I believe alterna would have been a strong single on its own. Plus we always get extra pvs in albums, MY STORY had three. And personally I'd prefer less pvs and more quality than more and being rushed just to have two pvs in a single.

Also now that half of her album was recorded for Sweetbox I wouldn't be surprised if she put teens in her album too.

Anyhow it does go both ways - you get a preview of what you'll get in the album before however yeah in the end you'll be pretty tired of hearing the same songs for a year and thus you'd have less songs to hear in a full album. That's how I feel :P

truehappiness 28th January 2006 10:27 PM

Well, the case for teens is totally different than that of the GEO songs. Ayu pretty much '<3s' the music that Sweetbox puts out and wanted to work with the composer, so he gave her a 10 - 12 song demo that had songs that he was going to use for Jade, and Ayu chose the ones she thought sounded 'wow'. I bet that GEO released an early version of their album Bold and Delicious to Ayu, since they were going to use the songs anyway. GEO just gave permission to Ayu to use these songs as well, you know? For the TRF song, Ayu is friends with TRF and a bunch of different artists did covers of their songs for the new album. So I don't think teens will be on the next album because it is an actual cover rather than a song that GEO or some composer allowed her to do that was to be theirs as well.. you know? x.x

/dies

Plus its an acoustic version. :p I really believe that there is no chance that teens will make it onto the next album.. :\ I guess you could put it like.. Ayu putting a remix of one of her older songs on a recent single and people thinking she might put that on her album..?

ohsixthirty 28th January 2006 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
Weren't people disappointed when Free and Easy only had four tracks? That's like 10x worse, I guess :p From 10 jillion remixes to like, one or two. :\

OMG, yes! i was devestated and incredibly unhappy when that happened!!!!

Raleigh 28th January 2006 11:11 PM

Not really a different story. I have already read the whole story of how Ayu has always enjoyed GEO and all but however Ayu enjoys doing covers even when the lyrics are changed so maybe she liked that song so much that she's going to include it in her album. You never know. Plus they've appeared in many events and a couple of vids with her so it pretty much shows that she does to a point respect them and probably enjoy their music. Of course this is not very probable but you never know. If it will be on the album though it will be the original mix.

And she has also done a cover in A BALLADS plus many other artists did, like Shimatani Hitomi so I don't see your point here. So yeah it is possible to have teens in the next album though it's probably not happening but there's always a possibility.

truehappiness 28th January 2006 11:15 PM

But A BALLADS was a 'BEST' album, thus really letting Ayu put anything on there O_O [people didn't seem to be happy with what was on there though..]

They'd really be effing Ayu up if they did decide to tell her 'you will put that song on the album.' Especially when its already on someone else's :\ lol

*Petit* 28th January 2006 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tl1029530921
i agree. I miss ayu's weird original covers...:(. Now its just face + pretty background.

I do hope 2006 will bring better covers than 2005. THere weren't many good ones, and all of them were quite boring. The STEP you one was downright Horrible! Can't say I enjoyed her album covers either. The onlt really nice and creative cover was MY STORY Classical =P

evolution105 29th January 2006 12:03 AM

We can only hope that the covers will be unique. Though I don't see the problem with covers she has been doing.

Mad_Cactuar 29th January 2006 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution105
We can only hope that the covers will be unique. Though I don't see the problem with covers she has been doing.

Yeah, they're all unique this year. Except Fairyland, the others have been a triumph visually and artistically.

evolution105 29th January 2006 01:22 AM

the fairyland cover had a soft sexiness to it.

Raleigh 29th January 2006 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
But A BALLADS was a 'BEST' album, thus really letting Ayu put anything on there O_O [people didn't seem to be happy with what was on there though..]

Huh? How does a best compilation get you to put anything in it? I don't understand your reasoning. Covers are put into albums on a regular basis so I don't see why Ayu wouldn't do it.

truehappiness 29th January 2006 02:43 AM

Not sure, really. I guess it's because there's more 'freedom' when doing a BEST album in my opinion. Don't really know why a cover would ever make it to an album when it's in a different album already anyway.. :p

/wiggles

extepan 29th January 2006 11:13 AM

this is good news . it is a long time since ayu released so many singles from one album!

Raleigh 29th January 2006 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
Not sure, really. I guess it's because there's more 'freedom' when doing a BEST album in my opinion. Don't really know why a cover would ever make it to an album when it's in a different album already anyway.. :p

/wiggles

Actually you are restricted when you release a best album because you have to decide the best songs from your discography which doesn't really speak about freedom. And it's ironic since A BEST was one of her albums which symbolized the lack of freedom. Plus I'm sure your label wants to take part in the decision process so they get more cash in.

Amairo no Kami Otome has been covered a million times by a ton of artists and put into albums so yeah covers would make it into an album when it's in a different album already. So why not Ayu?

truehappiness 29th January 2006 11:43 AM

But Amairo no Kami Otome was released as a single :\

The difference between that and Ayu's 'cover song' release is that the original is already featured on an album. :\ I don't think that even Avex would waste space like that o-o

cleftjuston 29th January 2006 11:47 AM

what are jackets? teens, a new song?

Raleigh 29th January 2006 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness
But Amairo no Kami Otome was released as a single :\

The difference between that and Ayu's 'cover song' release is that the original is already featured on an album. :\ I don't think that even Avex would waste space like that o-o

So? it's still a cover and it was originally sung by another group. I don't see why you have such a negative idea of covers and thinking they are inferior.

truehappiness 29th January 2006 12:06 PM

Not a negative view or even as if they are inferior! :p Ayu singing Haru yo Koi is LOVE! I just am arguing that teens will not be on the album LOL.

<3 Ayu singing Memorial Address <3

Jacket A / Jacket B are different covers, and teens is a cover of a TRF song by Ayu. :x

Raleigh 29th January 2006 12:11 PM

Lol yeah probably teens will not be in the album but remember that avex loves money and if they will think it will make money to add a TRF cover in the next album they will do it. Just look at the 12 single galore with the second best album for Kumi.

truehappiness 29th January 2006 12:41 PM

But they're not paying as much attention to Ayu..



..plus the Avex execs are trying to get Koda to strip as much as she can as much as possible. :p [which they only recently discovered can 'sell singles and albums'] >>

AyuGAME 29th January 2006 01:50 PM

i'm 100% believe that this single can get a HIGH SALES
i have heard STARTIN and BORN TO BE and both of them was REALLY GREAT


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