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Raiu-Ayu 10th October 2006 11:08 PM

Are any of ayu's dancers gay?
 
I was just wondering this cuz from the extras on AT2005 it looked to me as if Hide and maybe Naoto were gay. Not sure why, they just look that way to me :yes

AyuGAME 10th October 2006 11:32 PM

who knows?
i thought that shu-ya looks so gay

Coelacanth 10th October 2006 11:35 PM

They all gay. Especially the pitbull-looking one and the one that looks like a girl.

micster 10th October 2006 11:43 PM

My gaydar goes BEEP when i watch them on AT2005

So yes?

CoffeeCake 11th October 2006 12:10 AM

Here's a better question: which one of them would you wish were gay? :innocent

ayu1m 11th October 2006 12:12 AM

everyone except Go-Mi.

cybermoomba 11th October 2006 01:55 AM

o_o... um why?

Are you planning on asking them out or something? :evillaugh

They're sooooooo gay BTW

ayu1m 11th October 2006 01:57 AM

was that question to me :D?

I don't know, Go-Mi has been my favourite for the day I first saw him ^^ I really don't care if he's gay or not :P

IMO I think they're all gay, or at least 85% of them.

cybermoomba 11th October 2006 02:01 AM

No that wasn't a question for you LOL :laugh

I was responding to the person that started the thread :bchuck

evolusean 11th October 2006 05:38 AM

I think this thread has existed before.

They may or may not be. But quite frankly, and I say this being both gay and in theatre my whole life, in the world of live entertainment, it's the straighties who are out of place. In the world of dancing, especially. It's just a fact of the trade.

ronin542001 11th October 2006 05:44 AM

I think so too. I mean seriously, watch the HONEY performance at AT2005.

Yeah. Cane dancing.

Pink.

Nuff said.

(Of course, my gaydar sucks, but it puts my hopes up that one day, someday, I will live with Naoto and Shu-ya in a nice summer cottage on a beach where we will all stand naked together. Yes. It will be wonderful.)

explodingbird 11th October 2006 06:35 AM

How can someone look gay? If you mean stereotypically... I've known some guys who fit the stereotypical "look" (that just sounds dumb in my head) but are straight as anything.

I dunno. I don't care. I don't watch the tours enough to know them well anyway. I don't know who's who.

zeroshin888 11th October 2006 06:40 AM

LOL! Shuya seemed gay to me the first time I saw him, or implied to be gay? I don't know, he looks so feminine, it's hot.

extepan 11th October 2006 09:04 AM

most male dancers are gay. that's an indisputable fact! ask any one of your friends in a university/collegfe dance class. they will be able to confirm that to you!

Diana 11th October 2006 11:07 AM

Shuya - so gay~ It looks like that to me :D
I think we disscused something like that, and when Gomi touched Mitsu (I think x_x) when they were dancing startin on cdl 05/06. But I think they are just fooling around ^^

shippo 11th October 2006 03:48 PM

My gaydar says so... :D

Keishi 11th October 2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by extepan (Post 903861)
most male dancers are gay. that's an indisputable fact! ask any one of your friends in a university/collegfe dance class. they will be able to confirm that to you!

Does that makes
  • Rain
  • w-inds
  • Dong Bang Shin Qi
  • SE7EN
  • N'SYNC (aside from Lance Bass)
  • (insert random dancing boyband here)
gay?

ohsixthirty 11th October 2006 04:08 PM

wow, lets speculate on something we have no evidence for! you can't seriously judge if they are hetero or homosexual by watching them in concert dancing around and such. thats their JOB. ayumi or whoever tells them what to wear and how to dance. i bet if you met them in everyday life they'd act 100% different. and until one of the dancers comes along and asks you out, you'll never know if they're gay or straight. relying on stereotypes and generalizations is dangerous and something we shouldn't be doing.

besides, aren't these threads agains ahs rules and closed each time this tired topic comes up?

Tasked 11th October 2006 04:15 PM

there's no way of knowing for sure.. but... most probably most of Ayu's dancers are gay.. Gomi I'm sure sure; I'd think he's straight rather than gay; but shu-ya surely is gay.

*Petit* 11th October 2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 903720)
I think this thread has existed before.

They may or may not be. But quite frankly, and I say this being both gay and in theatre my whole life, in the world of live entertainment, it's the straighties who are out of place. In the world of dancing, especially. It's just a fact of the trade.

YEah, in other "fields" of live everyone are assumed to be straight untill the opposite is proven. In fashion and dancing especially it's the opposite, allthough not EVERYONE is gay. I think it's also because these environments are dominated by females or at least they are targeted to females (fashion), so many may seem to be acting what people outside these environments see as "gay". But, in these tpe of environments a lot of people do a lot of things, so "straight" or "gay" isen't always an issue. I know of married (to women) male dancers who do pretty gay things on the side and alomst every other combination possible. =P

at least that's my experiences from what I've seen. ;)

explodingbird 11th October 2006 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by touchedstar (Post 904132)
wow, lets speculate on something we have no evidence for! you can't seriously judge if they are hetero or homosexual by watching them in concert dancing around and such. thats their JOB. ayumi or whoever tells them what to wear and how to dance. i bet if you met them in everyday life they'd act 100% different. and until one of the dancers comes along and asks you out, you'll never know if they're gay or straight. relying on stereotypes and generalizations is dangerous and something we shouldn't be doing.

besides, aren't these threads agains ahs rules and closed each time this tired topic comes up?

Ah, thank you. I hate when people use "they look like this, they dance, they wear this - they must be gay!" to reinforce their opinions. If every guy who "looked gay" and "dressed gay" WAS gay, then I'd probably have many more options here where I live.

You just cannot judge how someone is by things like that. There's no real way of determining what someone is or isn't.

Keishi 11th October 2006 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by explodingbird (Post 904151)
Ah, thank you. I hate when people use "they look like this, they dance, they wear this - they must be gay!" to reinforce their opinions. If every guy who "looked gay" and "dressed gay" WAS gay, then I'd probably have many more options here where I live.

You just cannot judge how someone is by things like that. There's no real way of determining what someone is or isn't.

*worships*

It is sucks when you are accused being gay. Just because you dance that doesn't mean you are gay. O_O

explodingbird 11th October 2006 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 904157)
*worships*

It is sucks when you are accused being gay. Just because you dance that doesn't mean you are gay. O_O

Seriously. I mean, what would that say about Usher, for starters? Or Timberlake?

If a guy's feminine, then he's feminine. He could still be straight.

I think what really bugs me is people have set these standards. You have to bwe this and do this and like this and NOT be this, do this, or like this in order to be a MAN (or, on the flipside, to be a lady). If you don't conform to these you're different. You're gay or a femme-boy or a tomboy or.... whatever stupid labels. People can't just be people.

Keishi 11th October 2006 04:46 PM

I can't agree with you more.



Some people need to grow up.

thinkingoutloud89 11th October 2006 04:51 PM

Donīt think they gay...they have to dress after ayu...so ayu makes men gay XD No in BLUE BIRD they all seem soo notmal to me

Raiu-Ayu 11th October 2006 05:16 PM

I'm not basing it on the way they dress or dance I'm basing it on the backstage stuff I've seen and things like that X_X

I'm sure Hide is gay, no matter what. Go-mi maybe, Naoto I pray! He's so hot

shippo 11th October 2006 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 904169)
I can't agree with you more.



Some people need to grow up.

Hey... You don't have any gaydar...

:D Gaydar can be wrong... But we have an "instict" that we call as radar...

Please notice that... :D :D

explodingbird 11th October 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shippo (Post 904239)
Hey... You don't have any gaydar...

:D Gaydar can be wrong... But we have an "instict" that we call as radar...

Please notice that... :D :D

"Gaydar" is like the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It seems more like wishful thinking or basing perceptions of their preferences around stereotyping.

immel 11th October 2006 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 903720)
I think this thread has existed before.

Yes, and it was trashed/locked.

Keishi 11th October 2006 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shippo (Post 904239)
Hey... You don't have any gaydar...

:D Gaydar can be wrong... But we have an "instict" that we call as radar...

Please notice that... :D :D

Instinct and accusing is two different things. :love
Just because someone looks feminine you can jumped out with the conclusion that he is gay.

Uemarasan 11th October 2006 07:27 PM

Thank you for being here, touchedstar, Keishi, and explodingbird.

Being gay myself, I severely dislike it when people resort to superficial qualities to reinforce gay stereotypes. Didn't Brokeback Mountain teach people anything?

chibi_sunny 11th October 2006 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zeroshin888 (Post 903773)
LOL! Shuya seemed gay to me the first time I saw him, or implied to be gay? I don't know, he looks so feminine, it's hot.

:laugh
They're such bishies, lol.

I know its not right to stereotype, but I just have a feeling that most of them are :shrug.

And this thread will soon be in the trash.

Raiu-Ayu 11th October 2006 11:08 PM

I'm not sterotyping them. I'm a guy gay and I just think that they look gay, not from the dances or anything. They just look gay X_X

explodingbird 11th October 2006 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 904517)
I'm not sterotyping them. I'm a guy gay and I just think that they look gay, not from the dances or anything. They just look gay X_X

What exactly does "look gay" mean? I've made an assumption before like that, but you know what they say about when you assume...

But past stereotypes aside, now I have no clue how the way you look can define your love life. That's kind of... err...

I mean, what? They look like humans? Gay people come in all sorts of different looks. So do straight people.

ayu1m 11th October 2006 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 904517)
I'm not sterotyping them. I'm a guy gay and I just think that they look gay, not from the dances or anything. They just look gay X_X

I totally agree although I'm straight.

and explodingbird, to me they just "look gay" that's all.

perfectodub 11th October 2006 11:55 PM

the stereotypes exist :)

in Different levels...but they exist

femenine + dance is a big one lol

explodingbird 12th October 2006 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu1m (Post 904523)
I totally agree although I'm straight.

and explodingbird, to me they just "look gay" that's all.

As I said before, what exactly makes someone "look gay"? That's kind of... dumb.

bondingo 12th October 2006 12:43 AM

This is becoming rather controversial, but things always seem to heat up when someone mentions homosexuals.

I'm gay and I don't take any offense to this thread though. I guess I kind of see it both ways. I certainly can see what explodingbird, touchedstar, and Keishi are saying, but I also recognize that Raiu-Ayu meant no offense in creating this thread. I mean, I have great amount of pride in my sexual orientation, but I never take offense to any comments about gay stereotypes considering the fact that stereotypes in general are usually derived from some bit of truth (however severely misconstrued it may become through its passing).

explodingbird, I do know what you mean. Usually I just laugh if someone asks me, "You're gay, so you love to shop, right?" But I do find it somewhat annoying as such broad generalizations certainly don't cover each and every homosexual individual.

emi♡ 12th October 2006 12:54 AM

are any of them gay?

probably.

devilayu 12th October 2006 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by touchedstar (Post 904132)
besides, aren't these threads agains ahs rules and closed each time this tired topic comes up?

You get the gold star for the day!
Yes, similar posts/threads have been trashed in the past and the trend will continue. Closed.

Quote:

2. Do not post anything that is related to global politics, racism, sexuality, religion, or any other sensitive or controversial issue.


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