why no B&D and Pride....
 

Hi,



Just wondering Why B&D and Pride are not going to be on A BEST 2. I thought they where great songs and she sung B&D it a lot. It said that song between "evolution" and "B&D/Pride" would be featured. I think it is weird. I guess Avex thinks that sense it didn't sell that well it would bring down sales. What do you all think?

Maybe.. I dont like B&D too much myself, but I do love Pride but.. If its not in A BEST 2 it`s not... :(

B&D is a great song, no doubt (i love it soo much myself =]) however, if you look at the response of B&D from the general public, u cannot blame avex for making such a choice. This BEST is mean to help ayu recover some of her popularity and prove to others that she can still manage great sales, if ayu only want to include her favourite song, that would piss alot of people off

I believe that the fact that both are technically Sweetbox covers may be the reason, alhtough low sales are a factor as well, in my opinion.

its a pity, that Pride is not in..

IM NOT BUYING ANYMORE!!!
































just kidding :D

Maybe she'll include it in A BEST 3 or she won't include them at all because they're not really popular with casual fans?

Because she heard my prayer.
I maybe the only one who is glad that those two songs aren't in it. YAY

well, i liked the songs, though the get tiring after a while

though it sorta clued in that it would be included if it was from evolution to B&D/PRIDE, so it was weird that it didn't make it

plus, it may be because of the sales, but oh well

I think it was just a for fun single..haha
Anyway, i won't wanna see just coz of GEO is kills her sales

hmmm i'm really glad Ayu didnt put these 2 songs in there :P

I don't really like B&D too... but Pride is a great song... *sigh*

It could be how we interpret it/they wrote it

Up to and including B&D/Pride or just up to B&D/Pride...

Because they are in one of her worst selling singles

Oh, come on. A BEST 2 isn't even OUT yet, and you're thinking about an A BEST 3 already?? :P lol Just kidding.

Maybe she said, "I'm gonna perform it at every concert, so they'll hear the song [Bold & Delicious] plenty of times!" :D

But, yeah, maybe it would've brought down sales like you said. I have to say that Bold & Delicious is more of a track that could be on a CD like A BEST more than Pride. Pride just doesn't seem as popular/concert crowd pleasing (even though I'm sure a lot of us can say we love it!).

Maybe because they blowed.

come to think of it...there is no sweetbox songs on A BEST 2 :D If she did add b&d...that would really suck for me...lol...also I dont really think it fits well with the others...just like how I felt it was odd in m(u)

I too find it odd, and love both songs and wish they would be on there. That being said, I have to wonder if maybe there were legal issues with Sweetbox's label/management/whatever, with Ayu using GEO's compositions again? I figure, they worked out the agreement for (miss)understood, but maybe that agreement was for that album alone. Regardless, I figure part of it at least has to be about problems obtaining the rights for use on A BEST 2.

well, they wrote from evolution, which coulda meant not including, but they included it :thud I'M SO CONFUSED

It's not really one of her BEST songs anyway... I'm glad it's not on there

GEO doesn't kill her sales...i love the song that GEO arranged the most..
pride should be in...

That makes a lot of sense. Although it's probably the fact that it' an odd song as well. The only way it would fit in with Ayu's other songs is if it was mastered/remixed and then it wouldn't be the same. :(

I have a love-hate relationship with that song, so I have no clue how I feel about it not being there. Somehow, it should have made it into AB2, it's defintaely one of her.... memorable songs. :P

Probably cuz they suck! D:
LOL! j/k...but i don't think those are some of her best songs.
I'm glad they're not on any of the tracklistings. =/

I doubt it had anything to do with legal issues, the songs are already ayu's, they don't need permission anymore to make compilations and remixes and whatever. The reason they weren't included is because they're both controversial songs in ayu discography:

-single sold terribly
-majority of fans either love or hate them.

You can't consider something BEST when things are so gray like that.

Totally. :innocent

I really agree with you!
I really love thése two songs and can't understand why they aren't on A Best 2. :no
Ok B&D sounds kinda strange:rolleyes ..but Pride is a very nice song...:love

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I think it's sales + popularity amongst other singles released that year as well, and Ayu's personal opinion. I think that's what created the tracklist. I'm glad B&D and Pride aren't on there bbecause there are a lot better songs.

no, you aren't XD i'm glad too.

haha.. B&D is a happy song but it may not truly reflect ayu's emotions cos its a cover?? i duno.. that may jus be a reason though...

and i feel that Pride is a really really sad song.. she shld include it.. damn! imagine how impactful the album will be if the first track is Pride.

i am glad the B&D is not htere. it is such a terrible song!

Before the release of B&D/Pride, ayu was on a very upwards sales slope. (miss)understood would have certainly sold more than MY STORY did, if prior single sales were any indicator. As much as i've come to appreciate the songs, i also very much recognize that single's release as her downfall in regards to sales.

While this BEST compilation may be a ploy to get money, it may also be a way of avex (and perhaps ayu) iterating that everything from that single to BLUE BIRD should be disregarded in the grand scheme of things - afterall, they were pretty much already doing that when deciding Secret would be a mini-album. A BEST 2 as a re-start of sorts.

well simply
becoz they are

CRAP !!!!

if you diasgree with this ,,, well i got the SALES of B&D / PRIDE to back me up.

The low sales of B&D/Pride could probly due to the fact that everyone knew about those two songs (and the pvs) will be on the album, so they didn't bother buying the single. You can't really put an equal sign between bad sales and bad songs.

Yup, I guess low sales. Still, I don't think they would have fit on A BEST 2 anyway. I agree with what people have said. Bold & Delicious/Pride was more of a "c'mon, let's do this and check out the public response" kind of single. I think it was more distinctive of (miss)understood as an album rather than as a track on a BEST album. If this was a singles collection, I would be complaining! But nope it's not, it's a BEST, and by definition, BEST kind of means the "best" songs. I'm rather relieved they didn't make it onto the BEST, it would have been really abrupt if it was inserted anywhere in the tracklist.

DUDE ! UR WRONG !
all of us surely know that, just like B&D / PRIDE, that

STEP you / is this LOVE, fairyland and HEAVEN will be in the album also
then they still sell well. The point is .. we all know whatever single she releases will be re-release in an album.

Eg, Ayaka's Mikazuki sell very well considering her album will be release soon after the single release

dont get me wrong g~sus~ ..
i like GEO compositions or at least the way AYu brings out the power in them...

but if the japanese don't really enjoy them, then i wont wanna see A BEST 2 do not as gd becoz the japanese dont like those songs and end up not buying

thats what i meant

I love B&D and Pride. Plus it said in the description all singles from evolution-B&D...That's sad b/c I feel that B&D's single was much better than fairyland/alterna. Those two songs are the most underated Ayu songs ever because her versions are WAAAAAAAAAY better than Sweetbox's.

Well it was a combination of bad song + release date = poor sales.

What B&D not on A BEST 2????
A Shame! I really like B&D, and I like Pride a little...
why? why? didn't they put it on the CD? :grumpy

Hmmn, i'm tryin' to be more objective before continue writing so I won't sound like fighting hehe :P. Of coruse Mikazuki is a good song so I can see why the single is selling well. But Ayaka's case is a bit different as well. She never released any album before hand so considering the freshness of the artist, people tends to give the song a try. People gotta buy the single to make a judgement whether this new artist is good enough before buying the album.

In ayu's case, the songs were experimental, and at the same point she's not new anymore so most japanese expect what they would get from ayumi hamasaki. Whether they like or hate them, most of them knew that the album would be released 20 days later [(m)u actually started selling on the 27th of dec]. Hardcore fans would buy the single, while other not-too-hardcore fans would just go ahead for the album. Also, there're some non-fans only love one or two songs from particular artists, so they tend to buy the single instead of album. As you say B&D/Pride is pretty experimental. Even some fans didn't really like it, so I assume not many non-fans would consider them as good songs.


STEP you, fairyland, and HEAVEN are far from the album release date. By the time people bought those singles they didn't know when the album would release. If they wanna listen the songs, they either buy it online (mp3), or grab the CD. I can't say those three songs are better than B&D/Pride since different people have different tastes.

So yeah... there're several factors contribute to the low sales of B&D/Pride. I do agree with ruixiong89's comment tho... If they're meant to be experimental and not accept by the general public, they are not part of the BEST then.. (sigh... I love Pride... I like B&D... I do hope Pride will be on the BEST).

Sometimes I think... if Pride were not tied together with B&D, would people think it's really experimental? It sounds like a normal ayu song to me somehow..

I love B&D and Pride very much, two of my fav ayu songs. Maybe it's cause i'm American, who knows. But then again I don't think those songs really are all that American sounding seeing as how they would probably flop in the US unless Beyonce somehow managed to make them (lol).

THere's just something gospely about Pride. Something about the chorus. The composition is not what I'd expect from ayumi hamasaki either (which means it's not a composition it'd expect her to choose).

because Japanese people think gospel is wack yo

Then I guess the gospel is the main factor making Pride something different compared to normal ayu songs... When the official site revealed the preview of Pride I did think it's a weirdo. Yet the full version just sounds like other ayu songs - except the gospel part. I really love this song but then probly Japanese people hate it then.. :P

well...
if just the singles' sales are the answer of the question...
what is doing HUMMING 7/4 there?
all this is so subjetive :)

hmm
i like debating =)
so dont take it wrong =)
hehehe

the heat about Humming 7/4... I think it's because people wants Daybreak back to the list. If Humming was originally on the mumo tracklist, people wouldn't be annoyed too much. Daybreak was on the mumo, most people expected it would be official. All of the sudden Daybreak's gone and Humming's there.. Ahh I hope they make 16 tracks each..

yeah yeah :D

i used to love B&D but i never get into pride until i see she sings it live...that songs looks so much better...maybe there is no many fans that love it and the sales of that singles is low, forgiveness not made it into compilation too right? although i love that song

Because it sucked. :P

speaking about forgiveness.. hmmn there is lots of background vocals in this song as well... maybe japanese people hate songs with lots of background vocals... LOL