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What version of NFN is this? [yahoo auctions]
http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r31834715
Is it the pirated one that was released and pulled back again because the recording company behind it was missing the license? I'm pretty sure it's not the original, the original wasn't released in a jewel case, or was it? |
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The Auction is for the Original NFN Album.
There is an Album (normal 12cm Jewel case) and a Single (8cm Single) |
30.000 yen???????? O.O
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^ well, since ayu became super popular despite this album/single release...it's worth THOUSANDS (plus, she sold very few of NFN, which makes it even more valuable)
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30k yen actually quite cheap.. compared to f.ex. eBay and that $3000..
I am right that she sold only 250 copies of this.. :? |
Are you people sure this is actually an original?
Sends a certain recent thread to my head, about people being willing to pay $400 for it. |
I whould say yes... the Taiwan bootleg/whatever looks different.
nick from eneabba.net also has listed this as the orginial Album. |
It's the real one. The album is in a slimline jewel case like this. You can also tell from the COCA stock number and the pure grey cover (the version of the photo used on the single & bootleg cover has a red filter on it). Also, this is a slimline case (like the boys & girls single), the Ho-Son bootleg version is in a regular size jewel case with a slipcase over it (sometimes that's not included though).
This is real, and I dare say that 30,000 yen is actually a pretty good deal for it. If I had it, I'd pay that without question. |
I wonder where all the other copies are..I mean they didnt make only 250 copies I guess.. they just sold that bad 'cause it was horrible release..so where are the other copies? did they throw them? I dont understand why make things out of print if they had other copies free T.T
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Chances are those lucky few who HAVE copies of it either didn't realize what they had and have thrown it away over the years, or they're keeping it for as long as possible since it's one heck of a collector's item.
But usually if a CD doesn't sell well, the label just buys them back from the stores after awhile... in the US those are given a notch sawed out of the jewel case, a punched-out hole on the insert, or a gold promo stamp and then re-sold to stores at deep discount prices, and then the stores stick those in the discount/used CD bins. Not sure what happens in japan, but given how high-quality the few copies of this are that I've seen, probably not that. I guess they just take them back and destroy them. *shrug* |
Destroy? How stupid..they should keep and guess that some fans like someone here would buy it some day, as a big ayu's fan and collector..so they can get money from it and you can buy at a reasonable price..now even if the persons who have a copy sell it like it is a real memento they wont get a money.
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Most likely, when and if the CDs were destroyed, they had no idea ayu would become the big star she became. There'd be no reason to take up warehouse space on a CD that, as far as they can tell, will never sell. In 1996, when that would have happened, ayu looked like no more than yet another aidoru who tried a music career & failed. It happens alot, the artists are never heard from again after they reach 18 years old. *shrug*
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ayumi looks good
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I've never seen it before either.
Can I just ask why you posted that picture in here? |
^I second that request, I mean, you don't just go around posting random pictures with no explanation...does it have anything to do with the NOTHING FROM NOTHING album or single?
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The picture shows the recording of NFN and it is hotlinked from eneabba.net btw.
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it's totally worth to buy!!
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Well, ~1k is still low :b Where did you get that number? |
The single sold 290 times... the album sold 1200
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Ou.. okay, thx :)
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so if this is real, normally how would a bootleg look like? how to tell the difference? other then the cd design, case and obi?
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The bootlegs are fairly easy to distinguish from the original.
One bootleg is the Ho-Son release of just the single. It comes in a slide box, and the cover of the box & the jewel case are both the single cover art on the right side, and then a red column on the left with tracklist & ayu's name. The back is the same, but the BACK of the single artwork instead of the front, the red side includes the tracklist, and the UPC bar code is there. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/726...ng4cls0.th.jpghttp://img46.imageshack.us/img46/871...ng6bcp8.th.jpg (these pics are from eneabba.net... I have this particular bootleg but haven't scanned it yet) The other bootleg actually has a different title, "The Past of A.Y.U.". It's basically a bootleg of a bootleg, just a copy of the first disc of Ho-Son/King Records HK's 'The Past & Other Side of Ayu'. It has the full NFN album and single included. The artwork is blue with some artwork of Concert Tour 2000 era ayu in a circle on the front. It's VERY easy to distinguish as an unofficial release. http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9920/frontof5.th.jpghttp://img50.imageshack.us/img50/119...1121vg2.th.jpg |
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So yeah, it states it is a bootleg, as it seems they didn't have any license to release it. |
They didn't. Any Ho-Son or King HK release is gonna be best described as a bootleg. Even in places where bootlegs aren't strictly speaking illegal, if it doesn't say avex (or Nippon Columbia :P), the money isn't going to ayu.
Nick's description at eneabba.net of the Ho-Son bootleg is REALLY kinda foggy and unclear, and I think it's the source of alot of confusion over whether it's a bootleg or not. He kinda presents it as an official release that just went wrong, but it's not. It was never official, it's a bootleg same as any other Ho-Son release. They're often sold in otherwise well-regarded stores (The Past & Other Side of Ayu was sold on yesasia.com for a short time), but that's just cuz they promoted themselves as respectable. They do alot of anime soundtracks too. Anime fans are often told to avoid them, but since they don't do a WHOLE lot of jpop releases, jpop fans don't hear the name of this company as often. To be safe, just don't buy anything released by any of these companies, by ayu or anyone else: Ho-Son King Records (Hong Kong) (most of their stuff is just the HK versions of Ho-Son releases) Smile Face Alion International Miya Records Son-May Ever Anime Son-May, Ever Anime, and Alion International are actually all the same company, so. You can bet that all three are no good. |
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Eh, it's not CRAZY amounts of rare, but yeah it's kinda rare. I've seen it on Yahoo! Auctions Japan a number of times, far more often than several of ayu's orgel collections (the two X'Mas Healing orgel discs are FAR more rare), but still less often than most really common ayu cds.
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