[3/22] 'Secret' 16th Week Sales
 

'Secret' 16th Week Sales
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Rank: 187 / Weekly Sales: 1,026 / Total Sales: 665,224

Weeks 1-10 sales
Week 11: **2,638
Week 12: **2,221
Week 13: **1,876
Week 14: **2,558
Week 15: **1,370
Week 16: **1,026

2006 Sales: 494,399
2007 Sales: 170,825

I hope it can hit 670k, I know it has the power to do so in less than 2 months. :)

omg, so close to 666, go go go!

Heading towards 670k... I hope

Hoping for 666 :B thanks!

im also hoping for 666.

666, 666 =)

Thanks

It'll be interesting to see how long this charts - I'm guessing not as long as m(u)

Wow, cool, it still selling quite good, 1k every week, go Ayu ^^

C'MON get 700k...!!!

700k please..... :D

come on!!

umm... i like thatyeaah

I think it'll end up at around 700k.

666 is gd...its really maintaining very well!

tnx for the update

thats not a huge drop.. :)

It'll have to stay consistent and chart for 35 more weeks to do that, so i kinda doubt Secret will hit 700k

awww cummon ayu, this is sad! Isnt ur tour doing anything to boost sales?

Aww that's madness!! This album rocks!! I still think it'll follow in (miss)understood footsteps! So it will do better than it is, but it's still doing really well right now!

Most people who go to the tour already have the CD. After all, it's the hardcore fans who go to her concerts.

sales are still lasting for a long time i'm really happy :) i think secret will sell more copies than a best 2....

That's not really good new for A BEST 2, lol

Um. A BEST 2 already sold more than Secret by far..

ANYWAY, Yay for 666.

lol wow this cd is not getting sales i thought people were just kidding because it didnt hit one million this is bad

A BEST 2 is not one product. You can't just add each up and say they're one album, they contain totally different tracks, videos, and extras.

We know, Peger. A lot of us consider A BEST 2 different products, but hte sales as one.

They were released at the same time ... And Peger

Do you enjoy talking back to a veteran like you have been here for years?

And Peger.
A BEST 2 is considered one product series. They were released on the same day with extra similiar named [whoah .. a one word difference!] part of the A BEST series.

A BEST is the first instalment
A BEST 2 is the 2 piece second instalment.

Basically, yor a little obnoxious. I'm not being mean or anything, just try not to be so obnoxious. I dunoo if you do it on purpose, just try not to. It's annoying.

^If your opinion was that strong, Oricon would have counted it as one album.

They are considered TWO diffrent albums. Combining the sales is your own choice.

You dont have to call him obnoxious just because he said the TRUTH in his eyes.

it counts as two seperate projects just as many have said. Alot of members here are counting it here unoffficialy as one but its two products

none of yous really see my point. To seprart products in a multi-product chain, released on the same day. im saying it is easily correct to say it is 1 product AND 2 products. And im just saying he/she has been being obnoxious on more than one occaison.

According to this 'Secret' didn't gain any new sales this past week. Not sure if it's a typo or not since it would be pretty fast for it to drop out of the TOP 300. It would also be her fastest studio album to do that too. I'll double check whenever the TOP 300 list comes out.

Please stop harassing me Impracticale. I didn't think what i said was obnoxious at all, it wasn't my intention to insult anyone, and I'm very sorry if evolution feels that way, but it's not your job to get involved.

^ you werent obnoxious.

Impracticable was. She doesnt understand that although it is one project, it is two diffrent albums. And she wont budge at all to change her opinion.

And A BEST II is two products.

A BEST II is One project.

A BEST II is NOT one product. OR we would have A BEST II ~GREY~

Jeez, i explain over and over again and nobody gets my point? What is wrong with all of you? And above all else, you take debates as arguements. jeez. And its hardly an opinion. I agree with BOTH opinions that it is 1 product and 2 products.

Bye, the way, I am not a "She".

&Peger; I'm not really 'harassing' you. If i was doing that you would get threads about you and PMs. I'm not doing that. If I was harassing you, I would be saying you are the most irataing person ever and I can't stand you, but no, I'm saying you have obnoxious times and I don't think you do it on purpose, and to please try and stop. If you think that's harrasment; you have never really been harrassed. By the way; you're all being hypocritical. You are yelling at me for stating my opinion that i disagree with someones opinion and my opinion that someone is obnoxious. Oh, and your yelling at me for disagreeing with an opinion im not even disagreeing with.

Debates become arguements when one person attacks another. If you thought i was being rude to you or others, you could've pmed me, not say i was obnoxious or had the brain power of an eight year old in two different threads.

I think they're still in the charts because of the ongoing Tour of Secret.

thanks for the info!! :D

well, selling over 1000 copies isnt too bad for an album that was released months ago.

A BEST 2 is the name of the series. A BEST 2 -WHITE- is the name of the white version album. A BEST 2 -BLACK- is the name of the black version album. If someone says A BEST 2 didn't sell as much as Secret, then in my opinion that is incorrect because A BEST 2 is the series and the series sold 1.2million+.

And don't forget that A BEST 2 -WHITE- will likely surpass Secret's sales within the next two weeks or so.

I'd also like to point out that Super Eurobeat presents Ayu-ro mix sold more than each of A BEST 2's albums' individual sales. So what? It'll be surpassed next week.

I don't think it's wrong for people to think of these albums are separate albums. Do people think "ayu-mi-x II: US+EU", "ayu-mi-x II: Orchestra" and "ayu-mi-x II: JPN" as 1 album?

The main problem i have with thinking of A BEST 2 as one album is that, given their close sales, it seems highely likely the same people were buying each version, so if it was released with only one version, sales wouldn't be much higher that WHITE's sales. It's also possible that the fact there are two versions discouraged people from buying it due to the expense, and one 2CD version would do a lot better. Oh well, it's impossible to know now.

If it was just one version, I think it would've sold maybe as much as (m)u?

Eh.

I try to just not think about it at all. lol

Sigh, yes I realize that, but I can dream.... ;]

LOL, I doubt everyone was willing to buy both as they were quite pricy, they were given a choice, sure, some people bought both, but I guess most of them didn't.And besides AVEX only cares about THE AMOUNT OF CDs sold, and in case everyone did buy both, than AVEX did a pretty good job, anyway, as they "milked" more money, and its good to see that 650 k of people would spend so much on Ayu.But as I said, I doubt what u said.

^Well the difference between the 2 isn't big so isn't it evident that many people bought both?

is Secret still charting?

^No. It dropped after 16 weeks of charting. I think it's the fastest to drop out of the 8 studio albums + 1 mini-album.

:( i wish this one had sold more...

Anyone know what it's sold in the past few weeks. Apparently the chart positions have been like this:

86 - Week 17
88 - Week 18
91 - Week 19
93 - Week 20
98 - Week 21

From Wikipedia, so of course it's probably lies. Still.. ? Any updates/info/?

Week 17 - Did not Chart
Week 18 - Did not Chart
Week 19 - 621 copies (Rank: 297)
Week 20 = This past week.

EDIT: I just looked at the 'Secret' Wiki page - since when were Jpop CDs released in North Korea?

Since like forever:D

Does anyone know if Secret charted this week?

I looked for sales I haven't found a thing.

ow... TT_TT

come on, we all want our 666.000 copies sold, just for the fun of it. chart, dammit. :ytongue

I looked at the TOP 300, it didn't chart.

I'd just like to point out that "Secret" has sold almost exactly the same amount of CDs in Japan as Madonna's album "American Life" (2003) sold in America. Coincidence? Yes. :lech XD

HEy I just checked Wiki n Secret broke 800k!
I dun noe why but it really did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_...asaki_album%29

it is impossible...

It's probably the avex numbers, not oricon numbers.

^Yep. Someone in the avex numbers thread said they were going to change it.

its a good news however

It's true but... how? :/ look
Secret: 665,845 (+138,155)
Black Cherry: 989,848 (+470,152)
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Maybe oricon forgot some important shops or something...

maybe its the amount shipped from avex?

YE..maybe

Same. This avex number matches the RIAJ certification (3x Platinum) and we already know that the RIAJ counts the number of copies shipped.

well, who would ship 804 k .... why not 805 k :P.Maybe these are just the total sales, including the HK, Taiwan etc. ones, as AVEX is releasing those in other countries as well.On the other side they seem a bit rounded as there isn't a single one that doesnt have 0s after the . XD

I'd just like to point out that Oricon isn't 100% accurate:

Naturally, merchandise released from only excepted markets cannot reach to the chart. For example, debut single of the idol group called NEWS was released at 7-Eleven only (any convenience stores haven't added to registered shops), and did not climb to chart. Before leading of POS, result of the charts had depended on Faxes which had sent from record shops. The announced sales of materials by the Oricon are only an inferential value, not completely accurate one.

And can someone tell me why BLUE BIRD's ranking went from 322000 to 349000 from the 3rd trimester of 2006 into the 1st of 2007? Even if it is shipped copies, that means more stores must have ordered more copies of the single right? Which means the ones IN the stores must have been selling or sold out, right? The same thing happened for Secret

From what I see, avex first reported BLUE BIRD at 322k on Jun 30th, 2006. They then reported that the single was at 349k on Sept 30th, 2006. Since the single was released on 6/21, I think the slight increase is understandable.

oh sure, they are so inaccurate that they easily missed 1/3 of Black Cherry's sales. and of course, on the contrary, it is not like the album is sitting on shelves with the limited edition still not being sold out. obviously kuu has bought herself 500.000 copies just to increase sales numbers which don't even appear on oricon. that's marketing, ftw.

^ LOL. But i think Ayu's new single will be a come back single! she may just take the current crown again

Erm.. Actually, I don't believe these numbers by avex. Oricon seems to be far more reliable.

But why would the number go up like that? If they shipped 322k and the single only sold like 250,000 then why would they even need to ship another 25k? Wouldn't the 322k have already been more than enough?

Some stores probably did not have get enough copies while other stores probably had too many copies.

it broke 1000.000.... in my mind

As I said, those COULD BE THE TOTAL SALES including Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan etc.And that would be a reason why ORICON's numbers are lower.And btw most of the other record companies do release the total sales, take TOSHIBA EMI for example.

i think Secret sold more copies in taiwan,singapore,china and hong kong than 150.000..

So why do you think avex release those numbers? They don't have any reason to lie in their own sales issues... and they won't write just high numbers because they want to... I think that the sales that they write about those are the number of sales they got money from (well and those sales are the important ones) because avex gets money for those copies and ayu a high salary.

To impress shareholders/investors so that their stock will go up.

But isn't that illegal? Like fraud?

^ Well since many think that the avex statistics point towards shipped copies, maybe it's not exactly lying. Plus Oricon too is not so reliable from what I've read..

It would be fraud if they were to lie about their revenues or the stuff that actually goes on to their financial statements. An artist's sales numbers aren't in reported in a statement, so I don't think it would be fraud.

Ok so I don't understand.
Avex sales are reliable? (in any way shipping, worldwide or what not).

^I think they are reliable in shipping and also worldwide shipments.

^Which are the sales they've published?

Can't the stockholders just like, look on Oricon's website? Or Wikipedia's? XD Rofl. Really, if I was investing in a company like that I'd be keeping track of sales numbers on my own :D

Avex makes money by whatever the amount of cds they ship out not the amount of sales from stores...so I think those are shipped numbers which they made money from. I don't think its that important if those are sales numbers or not...at the end, ayu and avex made a lot of money from the releases.

Well, as people have mentioned, Oricon's numbers are not 100% accurate.

That's what I said earlier, that it doesn't matter what it is, the numbers that avex publish are must be the number of copies they get money from and ayu gets a high salary for it. (yay!)

I find it hard to believe oricon 'missed' half a million of BC's sales...

^ The way Oricon counts sales is too secretive to know. neomarxisme notes how Oricon manpulates rankings to how they see convenient. Ikimasshoi have mentioned how Oricon seems to have a connection with Johnny's. Might explain why some Johnny's group keep on getting consecutive #1.

Woah. That really is intriguing.. and freaky. :no If Oricon really is that messed up then I think I'd much rather put my faith in Avex's numbers

i wouldn't think ORICON would just make up numbers. if they favor JE artists, wouldn't they have given TOKIO the weekly #1 when they released "Hikari no Machi / Run Free"? it was number one the first day, but Kobukuro's "Tsubomi" grabbed the weekly #1. KinKi Kids' new single did manage to get the number 1, but its sales are their lowest yet (it didn't break 200,000+ like their previous singles). i would've gave them their usual opening sales, no?

i'm pretty sure ORICON has its flaws, but if it's the most recognizable music chart in Japan, you would think there would be some truth to what numbers they release.

As I said, they're only suppositions. However when a guy wrote about Oricon's dubious system he got sued. And people are starting to question even more and more since Oricon seems to be more keen to shut up whoever questions their system rather than explain the process of counting sales. Obviously they cannot overdo it so I imagine they only tweak with small numbers, otherwise it would look too obvious.

I think Oricon is the most recognizable chart because it's been around for long. However yep, it's arguably the most reliable chart around.

it will be 666,666 for sure...

All the sales in her discography needs to be changed back to their original oricon sales.