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Rurutia 26th March 2007 02:13 AM

another similarity between ayu and jolin
 
okay...i'm not bashing jolin.....i like her....well kinda....but i've heard a lot about the uncanny similarities between her and ayu......and i was watching this clip on youtube (ayu cm's) and i saw ayu in a tube thing and it explodes when she presses her hands on the walls.......in jolin's pv wei wu du zun , the same thing happens......thus, i wondered if she once again imitated ayu. you be the judge

ayu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7NKR...elated&search=

jolin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYjrbahzMag

Corybobory 26th March 2007 02:17 AM

Jolin was on display at a museum... I didnt think it was overly similar...

Rurutia 26th March 2007 02:19 AM

what i was pointing at was the glass exploded.......the motion was the same...just thought it was interesting

truehappiness 26th March 2007 02:24 AM

Eh, that KOSE CM is really old anyway.

Ayu was on display in some museum as well, I think..

sakamoko 26th March 2007 02:35 AM

I can't believe XD Jolin is really an Ayufan xD

Rurutia 26th March 2007 02:36 AM

is jolin an ayu fan? did she ever say that?

Raleigh 26th March 2007 02:45 AM

Guess her director is a copycat of the director of the Visee cm then.

truehappiness 26th March 2007 02:47 AM

This thread's probably gonna bite the big one, hm? :<

Jolin has a lot of issues with having material that is eerily similar to other artists from Japan and so on.. :\

the angel song 26th March 2007 03:00 AM

I'm not gettin' in this one lmao.

CREA.tive 26th March 2007 03:10 AM

Wow this is getting more and more ridiculous. I'm sure there are plenty of other videos in which you see a tube exploding. Did you really have to post that because I could also start a thread about which thing Ayumi copied from Madonna. But again, people would stay: this is a very common thing we see very often. Then that's the same for this.

FeNgZhEnG 26th March 2007 03:44 AM

hmm there were already alot of past similarities btwn jolin and ayumi.. its her company coz they were trying to create jolin into 'taiwan's ayumi'.. even there's a logo of her initial "J" shown on her albums and concerts.. similarities or publicity tactics? we judge ourselves..

AyuCharm615 26th March 2007 03:47 AM

Good one crea..my thoughs exactly!
Did Ayu copy Britney Spears in Startin'?
Yeah...i dont think so..

Melting_Holidays 26th March 2007 03:56 AM

ayu broke the whole glass cage. While jolin broke the sides. Jolin used 2 hands while ayu used 1.

Ayu was being admired while Jolin wasn't.

The only similarity I see is that they where both in a glass cage.

AyuGAME 26th March 2007 04:58 AM

its ok...jolin is ayu fans

pyro2787 26th March 2007 05:23 AM

can someone please provide better evidence of Jolin Tsai copying ayumi hamasaki please, like that chinese mv posted before that looked a lot like the Ourselves video(forgot who did the mv)?

So far, all the videos I've seen with Jolin arent that similar to Ayu, Jolin dances in her mv's and she does a really good job of it too, if i were to say something, she looks like she's copying Koda Kumi, not Ayumi. Also, I would like to add something, so far, I read on other sites that the majority of the people accused Jolin of "looking" like Ayumi or "her hand movements" are like Ayumi, or her fake nails are like Ayumi's... I find this ridiculous because there are tons of other artists who have the same hair style...or wave the same way, if my friend got a haircut like Ayumi, should I bash her for doing so? Or if she spiked her hair, should I bash her for impersonating some rock star? All these "evidence" (that I've seen so far) are too abstract for me to consider it copying...

buuuuuuut if you guys don't agree....talent lives on, once they both get old and wrinkly, they only have their talent left..therefore, I usually look to see if the artist can sing...and I find Jolin a very good singer, therefore, I don't really care if she "copies" Ayumi...unless she over does it like that chinese mv that looked like Ayumi's Ourselves....

Ayumiko 26th March 2007 08:08 AM

I saw this mv of jolins when it first came out and the first thing that came to my mind is the visee cm of ayus. This is very minor compared to the other similarities Ive seen between them. Jolin has a good voice and I think I would enjoy her songs if I didnt have a problem with her.

rainday 26th March 2007 09:56 AM

Oh come ON! The exploding glass effect has been used over and over and over again by people all over the world. Even if somehow you can find a statement from Jolin saying... "YES I SUGGESTED THIS IDEA TO THE DIRECTOR AFTER SEEING AYU'S VIDEO"... Ayu doesn't have a copyright on it.

LacusClyne 26th March 2007 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FeNgZhEnG (Post 1050777)
hmm there were already alot of past similarities btwn jolin and ayumi.. its her company coz they were trying to create jolin into 'taiwan's ayumi'.. even there's a logo of her initial "J" shown on her albums and concerts.. similarities or publicity tactics? we judge ourselves..

that is very common. a lot of artist also have their intials into their product.

as for the pvs, well Jolin's 'ling meng cao de wei dao' do look like ayu's 'hanabi~episode II'. but the pv was a long time ago, and recently jolin's tyle DO NOT look like ayu anymore. Jolin had now more controls over her images already.

kiseki89 26th March 2007 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 1050953)
that is very common. a lot of artist also have their intials into their product.

as for the pvs, well Jolin's 'ling meng cao de wei dao' do look like ayu's 'hanabi~episode II'. but the pv was a long time ago, and recently jolin's tyle DO NOT look like ayu anymore. Jolin had now more controls over her images already.

This unforturnately I have to agree...
However in my own opinion, she might have more control over her images, they are becoming rather bad - she is trying too hard to be sexy or something. I prefer her older styles.

~ayu-cake~ 26th March 2007 12:12 PM

*spretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~*
These threads fail, i'm so sick of seeing them.

>.<

kurikaeshi 26th March 2007 12:14 PM

hotaruchan = yea jolin's most probably ayu's fan.. but she never admit it..
instead copy her for almost everything..

>< haha, i knew this would happen after the concert in taiwan..
still i think jolin imitates ayu.. ><

Kodayumi 26th March 2007 12:57 PM

Jolin and Ayumi are two different people. its just that Jolin is a fan of Ayu. What is wrong with that? We should feel honoured instead.

*Petit* 26th March 2007 01:07 PM

That's about as similar as ayu's Is this love? is to All saints Never Ever

ayu_fan929 26th March 2007 01:26 PM

The breaking glass thing has also been used by Joey Yung in her 2005 concerts.

It's really no big deal...

panda87 26th March 2007 04:38 PM

wasn't there a gackt cm where he stood in a glass case too... where he was on display (but he was butt naked ;P)

overall, the main point is the setting of a figure standing in a glass case. it's not what the person does, it's the idea that was taken.

i think that in the near future, people will run out of ideas, become less creative, and dumb, and no longer be original anymore. everything and everyone sounds and looks like something and someone else. this world is going down people, MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

i just think people here are just a bit overly dramatic about trivial things. go cry to your mommy about it instead of us.

AyUmIXx 26th March 2007 05:44 PM

jolin's MV which called, well i don't know what's the title for the song, where she cries with hanabi pouring down on her just like ayu's hanabi episode 2..
that's the one that i know that looks so much a like!!
every detail.....

Ayumiko 26th March 2007 08:57 PM

oh that mv...called lemon grass whatever...lol

tinyppl 26th March 2007 09:11 PM

The interviews I've read and seen on tv of jolin, she never once said she's a fan of Ayumi. When asked who are her fave celebrities, she mentioned Madonna and one other western singer whose name slipped my mind at the moment. And the newspaper article where by they seek her opinion on the comparison between her and ayu, she just mentioned that ayu is very daring to wear just leaves on her body (i am) while she (jolin, herself) claim she's not like that.

So it really beats me why some people think she's a fan of ayu? Cos i don't see any adoration for ayu in her from everything I saw of her on tv, magazines blah.

but guess I went abit OT, sorry about that. This similarity is nothing compared to this which I am pretty sure most people on this forum saw it already.

Ayumiko 26th March 2007 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinyppl (Post 1051264)
The interviews I've read and seen on tv of jolin, she never once said she's a fan of Ayumi. When asked who are her fave celebrities, she mentioned Madonna and one other western singer whose name slipped my mind at the moment. And the newspaper article where by they seek her opinion on the comparison between her and ayu, she just mentioned that ayu is very daring to wear just leaves on her body (i am) while she (jolin, herself) claim she's not like that.

So it really beats me why some people think she's a fan of ayu? Cos i don't see any adoration for ayu in her from everything I saw of her on tv, magazines blah.

but guess I went abit OT, sorry about that. This similarity is nothing compared to this which I am pretty sure most people on this forum saw it already.

I thought I was the only one that know she never claimed to be a fan of ayu ever in public. and yes she did say shes not like that (ayu just wearing leaves) The biggest reason I dont like her is not coz she constantly take ideas from ayu and trying to be like her but the fact that she never showed signs of her being a fan of ayu...and say things like that. Its one thing to take ideas from another artist but to say things like that about the artist you took ideas from is not good at all. Its obvious she likes ayu why else would she do all these similiar things and I still believe shes still doing it.

Yes ayu took ideas from other artists too mainly madonna but atleast she showed she admired her...she even wore a madonna shirt before with her face on it, played her songs (confessions on the dance floor) before her concert begins last year, went to US to see her concert 2 times from the same concert.

Quote:

"Yes, my record company picks some of my outfits and they've hired a Japanese stylist to work with me. But if I chance upon something I think looks good on me, I'll suggest we use it in my concert or for the next album's image. We always discuss our ideas so I'm never forced to wear anything I don't like," says Jolin.
She is not forced.

LacusClyne 27th March 2007 03:34 AM

yes, though she had never say she is a fan. i do remember reading somewhere that sho do admire ayu for her boldness and creative. BUT nothing about a fan.....
well, since both jolin and ayu liked madonna. they just happen to copy madonna.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 1051108)
jolin's MV which called, well i don't know what's the title for the song, where she cries with hanabi pouring down on her just like ayu's hanabi episode 2..
that's the one that i know that looks so much a like!!
every detail.....

that is 'ling meng cao de wei dao'

AyumiSEASONS 27th March 2007 03:38 AM

It's threads like this that can really tick people off. -.- Ayu and Jolin have NOTHING In Similar. They are TWO Different Artists from TWO different countries who sing in TWO Different languages.

Besides, I could be like "OMG!!1! AYU COPIED PARIS!!1!" because they both wore the same dress one time, but you don't see me going and being immature about it.

namiie 27th March 2007 06:58 AM

This similarity isn't worth noting at all. Trends are re-used a lot in music, and besides, Ayu gets a lot of her ideas from Madonna. It's the circle of life...er..inspiration.

Keishi 27th March 2007 07:18 AM

another one? XD

panda87 27th March 2007 05:14 PM

o gawd, sometimes it's just coincidence. like when scarlett johanssan (however u spell that name of hers) and britney spears wore the same dress to different parties. get over it and if you can't go cry to your mama about it, not us. we're aren't gods who can change the way people think and do.

AyUmIXx 28th March 2007 06:05 PM

that fly high single cover one.
so much alikeeeeeeee!!
ohhh gossh the other are pretty much alike!

Peger 28th March 2007 06:13 PM

lol why do people here always hate on kuu or jolin?

Dustie 28th March 2007 07:55 PM

Can't see the first video, Kose CM, and I don't remember any CM like it, with breaking walls or anything... so I can't judge.

But hey, I remember I saw behind the scenes clips of that Jolin video in the news on CCTV4 some time ago :P

btw, is there any Jolin Tsai videography anywhere? she seems to have tones of videos...

Hazuki 28th March 2007 10:29 PM

OH MY GOD THE TUBE EXPLODED.





Seriously.


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