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[CHARTS + SALES] GUILTY -- ORICON STYLE Thread III
Previous Daily Ranking & Sales
[1st week] 2007.12.25 - 2007.12.31 Spoiler:
[2nd Week] 2008.01.01 - 2008.01.07 Spoiler:
[3rd Week] 2008.01.08 - 2008.01.14 Spoiler:
[4th Week] 2008.01.15 - 2008.01.21 Spoiler:
This Week Daily Ranking & Sales [5th Week] 2008.01.22 Position: #22 Index: ------ Estimate Sales (29th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------ 2008.01.23 Position: ---- Index: ------ Estimate Sales (30th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------ Weekly Ranking & Sales [1st & 2nd Week] 2008.01.14 Position: #2 Sales: 432,113 [3rd Week] 2008.01.21 Position: #2 Sales: 72,027 [4th Week] 2008.01.28 Position: #7 Sales: 24,715 Total Sales: 528,855 Oricon Style Daily Ranking |
Why do you open a new thread? The another one have 420 replies, still 80 left to the 500. I think that it's stupid
PD: Sorry for my english |
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you're just mad that you didn't opened it first! lol! you never update them so take it easy! :D |
I don't mind this one! The other thread is filled with confusion. Everyone is saying that Guilty got #1 but others are saying that she got #2. URRRRGH!
Thanks for explaing the sales...and POSITIONS!!!! |
The sales is better than i expected..=) so mayb tis album will do better than SECRET and (miss)understood, even thou she lost her No.1 streak, just by a little
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It got no.2.. Now that we know her sales is about 432,000 actually it ain't that bad :)
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Thanks for the info ;)!
This one is a bit more understandable ehehe.. |
Sorry if i sound mad, that was no my intention
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LOL! You did nothing wrong. I was wondering that too but when I saw why he did I understoood why...so, you know. lol
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it's commendable to start a new thread..agree with what Luv ~Venus~ had said about the older thread...and so GUILTY got # 2..
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But from this sentence, talking about wether Ayu can break the record, need to wait for the update on 21/1? Does it mean Ayu still have chance to get #1? |
Where does it say that she got number 2? I thought the charts came up on 1/9/08? Did she really get number 2? Way to start her 10th anniversary :thud
Oh well even Madonna and Mariah Carey don't have number one streak on their albums :innocent |
Why hasn't Oricon updated their charts? It's well into the day over there, and their album weekly's haven't updated at all.
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Weekly sales counts on two-week?
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yes... Oricon counts GUILTY 2 weeks as 1.. so isn't GUILTY still a #1-album, considering it was #1 for its 'first week', even though it wasn't #1 for it's 'first plus second week'? I mean it went like this right:
Week 1: Guilty won Week 2: The other one won Week 1+2: The other one won again if it were any other week in the year, Ayu'd be counted as a #1, right? So why not now? Just b'cos oricon didn't update its site with Week 1? |
i just saw the oricon ranking ayu's GUILTY is now number 3~
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Oricon never separates the first two weeks sales in Jan (at least since I am... era, which I have been aware of).
And actually I think GUILTY's second week sales is higher than Secret's second week.. Rite? |
Ok, can someone tell me when the last day of the 2 week period is?
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Yeah! Ayu got #1 today!
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Wow these numbers are insanely close..
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not bad! hope they'll grow :D
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YAY!!! she's back to number one..hopefully she can get number one position for this week...
seriously...c'mon japanese people buy this amazing album...and she can keep her number one streak... i think there is no competition for this week right? |
Whoa that sounds better! :yes Not bad numbers at all, I thought it was going wayy lower because of earlier speculations..
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MISIA is releasing this week. Here's hoping that she doesn't sell 100k+ XD
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ayu got back to #1 today?? wow!
Maybe can we ask for a long chart run? XD A BEST 2 had longer than usual so GUILTY can as well ^-^". So GUILTY is -officially- #1 or #2? I didn't get it. |
GUILTY is officially #2 weekly.
But right now on the dailies, she's no.1 but followed VERY closely by Kobukuro. They're so annoying! PLEASE STOP SELLING FOR ONE WEEK. XD |
MISIA only sold 70K first week with her last album, but she was releasing against Mika Nakashima. I think Ayu will get atleast 90K this week. :D
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i don't think ayu will sell more than 60 k this week... :(
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So what happened to mai kuraki's new album? lol.
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lol nice :P go ayu go ^^
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Dirty avex... maybe they planned it will get #1 for this week? :o
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Anyway, i didn't realized sales thread #3 had already been created before... so i'll quote myself just in case someone missed this from thread #2. Quote:
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It will be tough if it is gonna take #1 this week. I assume it will need to sell close to 100k copies or something. Maybe, there is small possibility :)
Kobukuro is dangerous though... |
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Oh well. D: They're talented and I guess they're getting their revenge for getting edged out by (m)u in '05. |
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this album very close with kobukuro.. very2 annoying about the sales |
Yes, officially from Oricon.
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OMG T__T
i wanna die heard this news.. so misia realese album this week???? i hope she cant sell more than ayu.. but kobukuro's sales still very close with ayu T___T |
i think mai and misia has lost their fame since 2 years ago...hopefully ayu can be number one this week...
PRAY HARD!!!! |
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only misia realese album this week or have another artist again???
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thanks for info
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her latest album ascension reach 2nd rank in oricon # Mother Father Brother Sister (06/24/98) #1 # Love Is The Message (01/01/00) #1 # Marvelous (04/25/01) #1 # Kiss In The Sky (09/26/02) #1 # Mars & Roses (02/11/04) #3 # Singer For Singer (12/08/04) #3 # Ascension (02/07/07) #2 source from wikipedia |
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Even kobukuro looks more frightening. |
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kobukuro has realesed 5296 3 weeks ago.. so i'm sure guilty's sales will be better :D
if we compare about the singles, misia's singles sold not good in album 8 world than ascension ascension's singles LUV PARADE/Color of Life : 24,410 Copies Sold #16 SEA OF DREAMS~Tokyo DisneySea 5th Anniversary Theme Song~ : 30,921 Copies Sold #13 eight world singles ANY LOVE : 22,876 Copies Sold #8 Royal Chocolate Flush : 11,670 Copies Sold #10 singles in ascension sold better than eight world |
I'm so confused :thud. Could somebody explain me please?? I'm not good with numbers lolz
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MISIA's last album Ascension sold 127,768 copies, I don't think she'll even debut on the top 2/3/5 :| (the album charted 10 weeks.....).
Is she really even a threat? I think the only real threat are kobukuro again. |
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her [everything] single sold about 2million copies...!!! she is amazing singer with great vocal technique and amazing concert, but i don't know why..recently her sales become really bad... |
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I thought she was a real threat but if she'll have such sales again so I really don't think so. |
everything sold 1,8million copies.. and her debut album mother father brother sister had sold more than 2,5million and the her best seller album...
maybe people get boring with her music... :D |
I think this is today:
#1: Ayumi Hamasaki (GUILTY) - 9,238 (x1.7) = 15,705 #2: Kobukuro (5296) - 8,987 (x1.7) = 15,278 #3: EXILE (EXILE LOVE) - 7,185 (x1.7) = 12,215 |
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those chart for today..but weekly chart ayu has lost to be 1st in oricon chart |
According to Tetsuki @ JPM forum, Ascencion sold 73k on its first week.So, I'm assuming that MISIA's new album will sold around 60-70k in its first week. If I'm not mistaken, Secret 3rd week sales was around 50k. If GUILTY sales is more stable than Secret, ayu may have chance to get #1 next week.
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everything can happen to this chart.. so the sales offical next week on wednesday,rite??? its mean ayu,kobukuro,etc sales count this week start from tuesday and misia start from wednesday... |
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IMO, ayu has advantage from her deafness thing news.Press starts to expose her deafness on TV and newspaper. It's kinda "promotion" for ayu/GUILTY (although in a bad & sad way:() |
i don't think ayu's GUILTY will get no. 1 anymore! Let's just admit that she's no. 2. but it's ok! she's still queen of japan!
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I would LOL SO HARD if GUILTY would manage to hit #1 in its third week. It'll be like the A BEST 2 -BLACK- we never had. :P
The sales are fine, considering how mediocre the singles did. |
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GUILTY might be an A BEST 2 -BLACK- make up lol. |
I think it's gonna be a fight between Ayu, Kobukuro and EXILE, until Koda releases "Kingdom". I don't see other big album release that are huge for the next 2 weeks. Unless Tohoshiki ends up selling a lot. I'm not really sure if they are popular in Japan. I guess they are a little.
Ayu should have released her album this week or next week. Her #1 position would be 100% secured. |
Really? I'd also LOL SO HARD if no other albums would make an appearance in the daily top 3.
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CHEMISTRY's album will be released on the same day with Kingdom too though I don't know how big they are.
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the only threat are only kobukuro again. :/ anyway gz ayu for #1 today
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chemistry has lost their fame too...their sales has become so bad
ayu is really great to maintain her carier better than other artist that debut in the same era as her...look at misia, mai kuraki, chemistry, ami suzuki, aiuchi rina...their sales has become so bad |
MISIA only sells a fraction of what she used to sell. kinda shame really, but her music just has changed to really bland and she has lost her fanbase.
I think MISIA still holds a record that Ayu hasn't beaten & most likely ever will. MISIA has the best selling japanese remix album "MISIA remix 2000 Little Tokyo". Kuu can outsell Chemistry, even if Kindgom ends up selling only half of the amount Black Cherry sold. |
Kingdom's sales will not be as high as BC but still it has a high chance of having above-than-average sales..
hmm and i think GUILTY will most probably outsell Secret. |
for some reason I think kingdom will sell well...and might end up more than black cherry...I used to predict it ending up selling around (m)u...but seeing how all the 2008 albums are doing so well, it might sell better than expected. Plus look at the content!
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Let's just pary ayu's wota will help her to number one this week! Can't she schedual a surprise "deaf" signing or something?
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I'm still surprised that avex didn't take advantage of this yet since they tend to take advantage of every situation. I mean they made a whole show about misono's supposed overweight problem.
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^ Yeah, I thought it was weird too. I thought for sure they would move Ayu's album to be released when she wasn't going up against such music industry heavyweights such as Kobukuro. Oh well, at least Ayu is still doing amazingly for a solo artist. I wonder whom Koda Kumi will face with Kingdom...
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Well, that's something you can get out of if you have enough discipline. Ayumi's situation is different from that, there's nothing she or anyone else, for that matter, can do about it.
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Thanks for the info ^^
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Whapuddesjdhtuyf HUH?? :thud
NICE SALES! :D |
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How did you guys know for sure that GUILTY got #2?
I just check on Oricon, and i see no GUILTY on the weekly chart yet!!? |
^Oricon subscribers.
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ok then, thx..
Although not maintain #1 streak, #2 is still so much better than other lower position!! Congrats to ayu!! |
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Well Mai's music isn't that great compared to her earliest music. I listened to her music before, but she's the least innovative singer compared to ayu, hikki, ai-chan, etc.
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It's really annoying they don't update their site while they give out the number so early - what's the point of 'trying to keep it secret from non-subscribers' (least that's how I understand their 'intention'), when the numbers are pretty much all over the online press?...
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Well I think they do. Usually oricon posts the highlights of the weekly chart on Tuesday, then update the charts on Wednesday.
Here's the highlight news they posted yesterday: http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/51020/ |
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Hm...lost one record...out of countless... Fsh, whatever. AYU ROCKS! Now all I'm hoping is that it outsells Secret and stays sort of consistent.
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i think these sales are really promising....we should realize that Ayu would have gotten #1 had they just counted one week...then she would've fallen to #2 and now, she's at 1 again...i like the way it looks.
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I wonder if Ayu will get #1 this week!?
It's very doubtful, she has been #3 for a few days now, (until today). And her albums do have a tendancy to... drop rather rapidly these days. |
The deaf thing really helped her sales Monday and she's still making gains on the digital charts today. There's a slim chance she'll be #1 this week.
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I personally don't care much for sales or rankings if I like the album and I LOVE GUILTY so coming in #2 is okay with me.
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Hmm, well, #2 is not bad after all...I hope it goes on to sell steadily though and not just totally plummet week after week and stop selling period like Secret. Kobukuro's amazing, yeah, but I just recently noticed how well EXILE is doing with EXILE Love as well. 1,200,000 copies in less than a month?! Holy moly. Wish Ayu had that kind of gusto...
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Yay! Ayumi #1 daily..if no album releases this week, she might make a miracle happen...in another world.!
In the end, if this album sells a million, that beats getting a #1 album. So I hope for a million. |
O_o Why did her daily sales just jump to #1 suddenly? (and on the day AFTER the "week" ended)
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