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SS_Macka 10th January 2008 04:32 AM

Thoughts on "untitled ~for her~" and more
 
hey

well i jus got a chance to c the cd booklet of GUILTY and i noticed..

that on the last page ayu says..

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/7...71smallwl4.jpg

i thought it was refering to her older sister (friend! thanks lol). but tell me.. could any1 giv me more info bout her older sister(friend)? i've actually haven't heard much bout her at all or neva realised. and how did she die?

as for the song untitled ~for her~, does any1 also think this is also dedicated to her? if it is.. its very touching.

sora2522 10th January 2008 04:38 AM

when did she have an older sister??...

baka-ranger 10th January 2008 04:48 AM

nah its not to her older sister, its to this girl named Natsumi (forgot the rest of her name, please remind me T__T) she's in the For my dear... pv apparently.
And I think Ayu's an only child, correct me if I'm wrong =P

ayumisrael 10th January 2008 04:51 AM

Isn't her name natsuki? though on a different place I saw mika john or something, have no idea...

KuroixShiroi_Namida 10th January 2008 04:55 AM

I like her hand writing XD! Seriously i write so fugly.

rikku411 10th January 2008 04:56 AM

I can't remember her name, so I don't want to say the wrong thing, but both that message at the end and untitled ~for her~ is dedicated to this woman.

She's not Ayu's biological sister, but a very very good friend of Ayu (so Ayu considers her a sister). Anyway, she passed away as Ayu was recording...

Her cause of death has not been officially mentioned, and I wouldn't be too optimistic about ever really finding out, it is personal after all.

SS_Macka 10th January 2008 05:08 AM

yeh i thought so.. i guess i got confused when i hear "older sister". comming from a taiwan background i should kno that japanese and chinese do call sum of their friends "sisters" or brothers as the case might b...

but ok thats given me a betta understanding at least heh.

and yeh i thought her name was natsuki too.. i wasnt sure..

but yeh i was jus curious bout it thats all, but yeh i also thought ayu was the only child but then in one of the threads in the news section bout her ear said older sister? ah well at least its cleared me up now.

baka-ranger 10th January 2008 05:53 AM

LMFAO yeah its natsuki I had a brain collapsing moment sorry T__T

AyUmIXx 10th January 2008 06:17 AM

i've never seen that Natsuki with Ayu as much as i saw Ayu with Mika john...
i thought that Mika John has always been Ayu's the only best friend..
to my surprise, there was another woman.. nvr heard of Ayu talked about that woman before..

*anyway, Ayu's handwriting is pretty.. not bad*

CHE.R.RY 10th January 2008 06:19 AM

I am so confused! I thought it was to Ayu's older sister...????

AyUmIXx 10th January 2008 06:37 AM

no she's not ayu's older sister just Ayu refers her as her older sister because their relationship has already been so close like real sisters..

CHE.R.RY 10th January 2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 1295768)
no she's not ayu's older sister just Ayu refers her as her older sister because their relationship has already been so close like real sisters..

Wow I never knew that :o
I learn something new about Ayu everyday xD!
Well thanx for clearing things up!

SheFliesHigher 10th January 2008 11:17 PM

It's not confirmed that the dead person is Natsuki....in fact, I have seen no proof that that woman is even dead. I mean, it's a good theory, but I don't think people should start saying things as if they were fact if they don't know for sure

Diana 10th January 2008 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KuroixShiroi_Namida (Post 1295686)
I like her hand writing XD! Seriously i write so fugly.

LOL the same x3

Yeh, it`s dedicated to her friend, they were probably close. Japanese like to call best friends older sisters (onee-chan/-san/-sama) and so....(or something like that, dunno how to explain :/) So probably of that you confused it? ^^" Anyway, I love that song~ You can tell it`s not just random song.. So touching. I cried few times

truehappiness 10th January 2008 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher (Post 1296529)
It's not confirmed that the dead person is Natsuki....in fact, I have seen no proof that that woman is even dead. I mean, it's a good theory, but I don't think people should start saying things as if they were fact if they don't know for sure

Who else? :/

We know it's a girl, and we know she's born in 1976. And she had to have been incredibly close to Ayu to affect her in such a way.

There's no one else around Ayu that fits the bill :/

sora2522 11th January 2008 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher (Post 1296529)
I have seen no proof that that woman is even dead.

i thought it was already confirmed? =\

My Rainbow 11th January 2008 03:09 AM

Prooved or not It is sure that somebody (a woman) has died or something, otherwise she wouldn't have written that in the album booket...

AyUmIXx 11th January 2008 08:15 AM

yea, there's someone who closed to Ayu has died...

s1012h 3rd February 2008 11:27 PM

i think untitled ~for her~ is the best ballad i've heard from her in forever
it's the perfect length, and i like these piano/orchestrated ballads that are grandiose

tehxiinae 4th February 2008 12:39 AM

it is highly supposed that Natsuki committed suicide. In case it hasn't been mentioned here yet. No proof, but suspected to be what happened. It's very sad and I don't like talking about it :( such personal matters.

CHE.R.RY 4th February 2008 12:57 AM

^ Oh god...I was wondering how she died. I really hope that wasn't the cause :(.

(miss)understood 4th February 2008 05:58 AM

I hope she didnt commit suicide, that is so sad (and horrible) :(

truehappiness 4th February 2008 06:57 AM

Hm, I wonder if Ayu will stop thanking "Natsuki"[if it is Natsuki. It does fit quite well D:] in the special thanks section... same goes for Tomoya..

Strange. :|


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