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ayuzlove 18th January 2008 08:48 AM

new news abt ayu's hearing problem?
 
This is taken from an article in My Paper published in Singapore today, which i happened to see it when my fren was reading the newspaper today. The original source in Chinese is written below.

步姐听力受损疑是服药导致

滨崎步目前透过官网自爆左耳失聪, 引起各界同情与关心.
日本 <Flash> 周刊访问曾为步姐看诊的医生与院方人员, 发现她在 2000 年左耳患上突发性内耳障碍前, 曾服用抗忧郁, 失眠的药物 Depas, 怀疑她可能因长期服药的副作用, 导致左耳失去听觉.
去年底滨崎步上 <红白歌唱大赛>, 左耳曾戴着贴满水晶的耳机麦克风演唱, 有网友猜测可能是助听器.
她的医生向 <Flash> 透露: “她就医时, 已经错过病发后两个月的治疗黄金期.”
不愿具名的院方人士指出, 她长期服用抗忧郁, 失眠药物 Depas, 有可能因该药引发副作用, 导致左耳失聪.
<Flash> 追问她的就诊与用药纪录, 但院方以 “保护病患个人隐私” 为由拒绝.
台湾媒体就此访问了当地医生, 台北国泰医院心科主治医生邱伟哲表示, Depas 在日本, 欧洲等地是处方药. 患者若是长期服用, 可能会发生嗜眠, 肢体无力, 间发性兴奋等副作用.
但医生也指出: “就目前医学文献无法断定长期服用或用量过多会导致听觉受损.”
另一方面, 也有媒体质疑滨崎步是为新专辑 <Guilty> 炒话题, 日本 <日刊现代> 网站指出, 她每次有新闻都刚好搭上新作品, 未免太巧合.

This is the translation done by me.

Drug suspected to cause ayumi hearing problem

Currently, ayumi has revealed that she had lost her hearing in her left ear in her official website, gaining public sympathy and concern.
Japan <Flash> magazine interviewed the doctor and hospital staffs who have seen ayumi as a patient, discovered that before her left ear had internal obstructions in the year 2000, she had taken anti-depressive, anti-insomniac drug called Depas, and suspected that due to taking that drug for prolonged periods of time, the side effect may have caused her left ear to lose its function.
Last year when ayumi attended the singing competition红白歌唱大赛her left ear was wearing a microphone earplug covered with crystal when she was singing, some internet people speculate that it was a hearing aid.
Her doctor told <Flash> that when she went for treatment, she had already missed the golden period of treatment, which is 2 months after she had this problem.
An anonymous hospital staff said that due to prolonged periods of taking the anti-depressive, anti-insomniac drug called Depas, it may have caused the side effect, which is lost of hearing in the left ear.
When <Flash> asked about her treatment and medication records, the hospital uses “Protection of the patient’s privacy” as a reason to reject.
The Taiwan media interviewed their local doctor 台北国泰医院心科主治医生邱伟哲 said that Depas is a prescribed medicine in Japan, Europe and other places. If the patient took this drug for prolonged periods of time, can cause 嗜眠, weakness in 4 limbs, excitement and other side effects.
But the doctor also pointed out that currently the medical documents are unable to conclude whether prolonged periods of taking the drug or overdosing can cause hearing to be damaged.
On the other hand, there is also other media who suspects that ayumi is making a news for her new album <Guilty>. A Japan website日刊现代 pointed out that its too big a coincidence that everytime when she has new releases there will always be news about her.

The chinese words are those i cannot translate...kind of angry at wat was written in the last paragraph

Kobayashiwoof 18th January 2008 09:00 AM

smells like baloney but still interesting

benslave4u 18th January 2008 09:02 AM

Well I doubt this is really true. Like doctors aren't allow to release any information about their patients. If they do they could loose their license. So I think we shouldn't even take this article into consideration

ayuzlove 18th January 2008 09:05 AM

haha..yea...was kinda shocked when i saw the article...

lfe. 18th January 2008 09:08 AM

if this was during her teen years as a party girl before she became a singer, this would sound more believable but for around the year 2000? it feels false

KuroixShiroi_Namida 18th January 2008 09:17 AM

""On the other hand, there is also other media who suspects that ayumi is making a news for her new album <Guilty>. A Japan website日刊现代 pointed out that its too big a coincidence that everytime when she has new releases there will always be news about her.""

:irked ...I don't think so

ayumixfan 18th January 2008 09:20 AM

lol When I first read the title, I thought they were going to say she was on crack, cocaine, exstacy or something XD LOL! Its probably fake =x u can't reveal medical info like this..... at least thats what I thought

AyuGAME 18th January 2008 09:26 AM

whatever...
nothing happened arround secret and M(U)
and her deaf news spread after her album release...and i don't think her sales going up after the news spread...
what a stu*** article

WillofDusk 18th January 2008 09:32 AM

WTH, nothing happened around Secret/ (m)u area. It's just Ayumi's new albums that creates the news.
What a bunch of taboos.

I really doubt this article. Bleh

AyumiBest 18th January 2008 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumixfan (Post 1306036)
lol When I first read the title, I thought they were going to say she was on crack, cocaine, exstacy or something XD LOL! Its probably fake =x u can't reveal medical info like this..... at least thats what I thought

XD Thats exactly what I thought!!

Qt Mashi 18th January 2008 09:36 AM

oh geez the last paragraph, and i think it's unprofessional for hospital to tell Ayu's information to the media...maybe its all made up though

Ayumiko 18th January 2008 09:41 AM

load of crap from a tabloid magazine.

ayuzlove 18th January 2008 09:44 AM

hmmm..glad to hear that its juz some crap...couldn't even find the author's name who wrote this article...lol...the taiwan doctor dunno exist or not..hmmm

LNette 18th January 2008 10:04 AM

tabloids...

angelwing886 18th January 2008 10:08 AM

thx

catur 18th January 2008 10:28 AM

wth??!

BoBo 18th January 2008 10:44 AM

no way drugs...

pUrpLeSn0w 18th January 2008 11:17 AM

oooohh they are trying to make ASSUMPTIONS again yeah?

trying to make news to "promote" her latest GUILTY album.. >.>
who'd like to make an illness like that??? that's NOT something to joke about..damn lame seriously.. >.>

Mari-chan 18th January 2008 11:36 AM

Ayu should go to an other doctor.. and maybee she should sue the doctor. A doctor, who say, that a patient take drugs and anti-Depressiver.... what for a doctor is that? Don't he has to take silence?
So.. I don't really belive, what stands there.. because, that doctor would loose his licence.

alternarist 18th January 2008 12:03 PM

if revealing patient's info is against the professional ethics of doctors, then why did the docs revealed to media? i hope they get sacked.. i dont understand why pple jus cant get over it. i already got over it but the media still wanna assume anything and everything

TITANIC 18th January 2008 12:15 PM

poor ayu...

she must check to another doctor.. maybe there is a chance to recover soon

tokyoxjapanxfan 18th January 2008 12:22 PM

doctors, legally, aren't allowed to release this information. plus, ive never heard of an anti depressent causing a loss in hearing o_O...i think it's untrue, and it's not very nice

4ever*ayu 18th January 2008 12:24 PM

false info....
A doctor has responsibility to never ever reveal any medical issue or health condition regarding their patient's, more over this patient is Ayumi Hamasaki, the Queen of Jpop!
The doctor will lost their credibility for doing such thing! >.<

kiseki89 18th January 2008 12:43 PM

I cant believe you trust our papers for entertainment news..
I thought they are fake or something?

ayuzlove 18th January 2008 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kiseki89 (Post 1306176)
I cant believe you trust our papers for entertainment news..
I thought they are fake or something?

i was skeptical abt this issue too..juz din expect the papers to write such things

erin1m 18th January 2008 02:19 PM

There's no way a doctor could reveal that information about a patient. If it's the same as in the U.S., I don't even think he could confirm that Ayu is his patient, let alone reveal her diagnosis and treatments. They are just be taking advantage of the "Ayu + Drugs" headline and figured it doesn't matter what they say after that, 'cause people will read it.

ImpactBreaker 18th January 2008 03:45 PM

Guys, doctors can't and shouldn't reveal patients information. HOWEVER, antidepressants are drugs of control, and they need a special kind of prescription that sometimes is retained at the drugstores. Sometimes the physician's doesn't reveal the info, but the drugstores ilegally sell the prescriptions they've gotten hold of to interested people. Usually that happens VERY OFTEN to pharmakeutical industry, because they want to stalk a certain physician to be aware if they're prescribing their products, so they can target him to promote their products. I believe the media could do that. With such prescriptions in possession, they can go and ask an unrelated physician to give them an insight on that drug , plus a possible association with hearing loss , and the physician will do without it being illegal or breaking the secret.

Depas (Etizolam) is a benzodiazepine. I haven't heard of drugs from that class ever causing permanent hearing loss. If ayu actually did take it, there's actually a chance she took it because of the ear problem (due to the vertigo) since you can use benzodiazepines to treat them.

That article isn't exactly impossible to be, but yep, it really makes us skeptical about it.

rikku411 18th January 2008 04:47 PM

It sounds very unbelievable and thus we have to be very skeptical about it... it's poorly written.

SheFliesHigher 18th January 2008 06:43 PM

Like Impact said, I really don't think that kind of drug can cause hearing loss....

CHE.R.RY 18th January 2008 07:15 PM

Ok that last paragraph was not cool :irked
As for this article...ehhh...sounds kind of funny to me.
I doubt this was the cause but I don't see anyone else with better leads.
Well thank you for sharing -I've been looking for more news regarding Ayu's loss of hearing.

AyUta 18th January 2008 07:28 PM

Last Paragraph = Retarded.

ImpactBreaker 18th January 2008 07:37 PM

LOL this thread reminds me of one of the most controversial threads about ayu in AHS posted years ago by "appears"! :laugh

ayu_ready? 18th January 2008 07:44 PM

I'm angry on them! :eviltongu

the say Ayu create news to boost her sales...ugh, ye-a,yea:irked

ImpactBreaker 18th January 2008 07:48 PM

Someone would mention that sooner or later anyway. :laugh

ayuayu798 18th January 2008 08:32 PM

bleh its fake.....

4ever*ayu 18th January 2008 10:20 PM

No need to be angry guys...just ignore them, it's not the first time,lol!

Chandrachan 18th January 2008 10:34 PM

wow some of the things people write...

naxxo.licious™ 18th January 2008 10:40 PM

Ummmm it could be, but i don't think so. But at least it was medicine. When i read the title i was like "WTF!!?? my ayu isn't a drogadict :headache!"

And about she making all this up, i hate when people say that. :eviltongu

PrincessAyu 18th January 2008 10:43 PM

... o-o I hope it's a rumour. -_-

Lyra-Shini-Gami 18th January 2008 10:50 PM

what kind of doctor is that? I guess that this is a fake... >_<

AyuXGuiltyXHamasaki 19th January 2008 12:32 AM

I don't really believe it... but thank you!!

Ryuuzaki 19th January 2008 09:18 AM

all in this article is fake news
her doctor won't talk about her, as she is his patient and he isn't allowed to talk about his patients

marekcarey 19th January 2008 09:36 AM

those people are awfull....

ayuzlove 19th January 2008 10:26 AM

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this is a pic of the article which i took wif my camera...sori for the poor quality... ayu seems to be promoting some handphone in the pic

criminal 19th January 2008 10:29 AM

That picture was in almost every western article! :| LOL, can't they get enough of that? :O

minna 19th January 2008 03:06 PM

I don't believe a word of that
fake. fake. fake.

Foxxy_Fuyumi 19th January 2008 03:08 PM

Drugs?? Causing effects on her hear?



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darc_aqua 19th January 2008 03:20 PM

chinese stuff, doesnt seem true to me, drugs > ear NEVER

ImpactBreaker 19th January 2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1307405)
Drugs?? Causing effects on her hear?



...

Many drugs affect the ear. Some of them can cause permanent damage to the hearing. A well known example is the aminoglycosides, which are used with caution because of this dangerous side effect, for a short period, to treat life threatening bacterial infections. Other antibiotics such as Vancomycin can also permanently damage the ears. Last year, I had a patient who completely lost his hearing and developped severe tinnitus in one of his ears caused most likely by the Vacomycin he had to use to empirically treat bacterial meningitis.

I don't recall ayu being admitted to a hospital because of some severe infection. And you usually won't use these ototoxic antibiotics to treat otitis media in a patient who has no immunodeficiency, even if it's severe, because there are other better antibiotics that doesn't have such risks.

Salicylates (Aspirin and the likes) which are sold over the counter, can also induce hearing symptoms in certain people who take them for long periods. But usually, the changes are reversible once you remove the medication.

ayutenshi 20th January 2008 01:20 AM

I feel so bad for her....but its good that she is still strong and keeps going on even though she knows it....

it doesnt matter if this is true or not ayumi still rocks!

LizBrazil 20th January 2008 08:39 PM

I doubt this is true. Really, Ayu is careful with choosing persons to work with her and I think she would be more careful to choose a doctor. Ayu only works with people she trusts (CNN Interview), she said it herself. Maybe she told Nagase, he was her boyfriend; but I think this tabloid made it up. She only told mama (Mika John), she said it in her blog. I think I believe Ayu more than a newspaper. Ayu is sincere with other people and she is honest towards her feelings and fans (CNN Interview). She would never lie to her fans, she loves her fans. Why do you think she cries at the end of every concert? Because she likes to perform and she has fun while performing. At the end, she has to say 'sayonara' and just hates it. She would do anything to make her fans happy. When she looks at the crowd, she has this smile, a very heartwarming smile; you can't fake such a smile. Conclusion: FAKE! TABLOID!

Suteisi 21st January 2008 06:40 PM

I'm pretty sure that she could sue all the people who revealed the private information. They do not have the right to do that and could be fined greatly. These details are personal and she has all the rights to not reveal such things to the world.

Diana 21st January 2008 07:08 PM

If it's true, I would feel stupid to lose hearing because of that Depas drug... :( Poor Ayu...

MemorialAddress 23rd January 2008 03:40 AM

How dare they hint that its a lie! :curse

Kaiouforever 23rd January 2008 05:02 AM

You cant release medical stuff like that in the US, but I dunno about other countries.

JinHamasaki 23rd January 2008 06:59 AM

fake x 100000000

Benzodiazepines do not cause hearing loss. Etizolam (Depas) is a relatively safe BDZ compared to some of the other ones and its side effects would be minor respiratory depression, mildly sedating, and disruptive sleep cycles.

But yes, it is a mild anti-insomniac, not really for depression though...


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