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TITANIC 25th January 2008 11:06 AM

[CHARTS+SALES] "GUILTY" ORICON STYLE 4th thread
 
okay i'll start the 4th thread

1+2 week
*2  432,113 *,432,113  Ayumi Hamasaki - GUILTY

3rd week
*2 *72,027 ayumi hamasaki GUILTY

4th week
Position: #7
Sales: 24,715


5th Week:

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340

6th Week:

Position: #23
Sales: 8,826

7th Week:

Position: #40
Sales: 4,371

8th Week:

Position: #43
Sales: 3,392

9th Week:

Position: #79
Sales: 2,004

10th Week:

Position: #91
Sales: 1,886

11th Week:

Position: #134
Sales: 1,371

12th week :
position : #145
sales : 1,245

13th week :
position : #188
sales : 1,024

14th week :
position : #
sales : 800

total sales : 566,114

KuroixShiroi_Namida 25th January 2008 11:12 AM

Sales aren't that bad :)!

Oh and this thread was created around the same time as the other one XD!

CHAS_AYU 25th January 2008 11:12 AM

GUILTY is back to Top 20 today! :)
It's above MISIA.

And kobukuro got #2 again, so powerful!

KuroixShiroi_Namida 25th January 2008 11:13 AM

Sales aren't that bad :) !

Oh and this thread was created around the same time as the other one XD! But 1 minute earlier XD!!

TITANIC 25th January 2008 11:17 AM

two latest day on 5th week out of top 20..

and today back to 2 top 20 again..

after search on rechocoku chart i only found together when in #38
source : http://recochoku.jp/recochoku_ranking/all.html

Teyla 25th January 2008 12:28 PM

17 isn't bad :)

CHAS_AYU 25th January 2008 12:45 PM

^ Yes. I am happy that GUILTY back to Top 20 again.
Hope it will go Top 15 tomorrow.

Minttulatte 25th January 2008 01:39 PM

Ayu's back in Top20? How wonderful. I like that. GUILTY will be on the charts for a long time, I bet. I hope it would be there longer than Secret was. I wonder what Ayu's position will be in the yearly chart, that would be perfect if it was better than Secret (which was #22). And those sales are great, no complaints from here. :3

Teyla 25th January 2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAS_AYU (Post 1314296)
^ Yes. I am happy that GUILTY back to Top 20 again.
Hope it will go Top 15 tomorrow.

me too

38? It could be better

AyuGAME 25th January 2008 05:17 PM

confuse, which one to post, but i choose this thread, since this thread is more specific and CHAS_AYU join this forum first...LOL...

thanks for update the info
YAY that she back to top 20, hopefully can back to top 15 even top 10

BoBo 25th January 2008 07:12 PM

not bad...

10x for the info

Northerner 26th January 2008 06:30 AM

The way the sales are going so far, I'm almost willing to bet that GUILTY will be one of those albums that will linger on the charts and keep selling little by little. It might not be in the top 20 all the time, but I bet it will sell more than "Secret" by the time the year's over.

CHE.R.RY 26th January 2008 08:07 AM

You know the charting is not as bad as I thought it would be, but in the 4th week it does seem like she started to slip quite a bit. Ayu loses sales fast :no

naxxo.licious™ 26th January 2008 08:12 AM

I think it's still charting VERY good. Ayu's sales usually drop much more faster.

namiie 26th January 2008 08:17 AM

^ Not really. Even Secret didn't fall out of the Top 20 that quickly. Secret stayed in the Top 20 Daily for over 7 weeks. GUILTY fell out (albeit, is now back in) in only the 4th week.

I'm going to tell it like it is and say that I don't think it's charting "well". It's not charting poorly, but it's not charting well, especially for Ayu's standards. I'm glad that it passed 500k (and like I predicted earlier, will probably end up passing 600k by the end of the year, albeit not 650k), but it's not charting with flying colors.

truehappiness 26th January 2008 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by namiie (Post 1315219)
^ Not really. Even Secret didn't fall out of the Top 20 that quickly. Secret stayed in the Top 20 Daily for over 7 weeks. GUILTY fell out (albeit, is now back in) in only the 4th week.

I'm going to tell it like it is and say that I don't think it's charting "well". It's not charting poorly, but it's not charting well, especially for Ayu's standards. I'm glad that it passed 500k (and like I predicted earlier, will probably end up passing 600k by the end of the year, albeit not 650k), but it's not charting with flying colors.

Well, the charting could be a side-effect of having a ton of new albums each week as well as the longlasting scary ones like EXILE and Kobukuro and bank band..

Luv ~Venus~ 26th January 2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHAS_AYU (Post 1314233)
Previous Daily Ranking & Sales


[1st week] 2007.12.25 - 2007.12.31
Spoiler:

2007.12.25

Position: #1
Index: 39,292
Estimate Sales (1st Day): 39,292 X 1.7 = 66,796


2007.12.26

Position: #1
Index: 24,256
Estimate Sales (2nd Day): 24,256 X 1.7 = 41,235


2007.12.27

Position: #1
Index: 18,391
Estimate Sales (3rd Day): 18,391 X 1.7 = 31,264


2007.12.28

Position: #1
Index: 19,874
Estimate Sales (4th Day): 19,874 X 1.7 = 33,785


2007.12.29

Position: #1
Index: 18,070
Estimate Sales (5th Day): 18,070 X 1.7 = 30,719


2007.12.30

Position: #1
Index: 20,449
Estimate Sales (6th Day): 20,449 X 1.7 = 34,763


2007.12.31

Position: #2
Index: 19,066
Estimate Sales (7th Day): 19,066 X 1.7 = 32,412


[2nd Week] 2008.01.01 - 2008.01.07
Spoiler:

2008.01.01

Position: #1
Index: 22,453
Estimate Sales (8th Day): 22,453 X 1.7 = 38,170


2008.01.02

Position: #2
Index: 17,810
Estimate Sales (9th Day): 17,810 X 1.7 = 30,277


2008.01.03

Position: #2
Index: 24,645
Estimate Sales (10th Day): 24,645 X 1.7 = 41,896


2008.01.04

Position: #3
Index: 10,881
Estimate Sales (11th Day): 10,881 X 1.7 = 18,497


2008.01.05

Position: #3
Index: 8,272
Estimate Sales (12th Day): 8,272 X 1.7 = 14,062


2008.01.06

Position: #3
Index: 12,336
Estimate Sales (13th Day): 12,336 X 1.7 = 20,971


2008.01.07

Position: #1
Index: 9,238
Estimate Sales (14th Day): 9,238 X 1.7 = 15,704


[3rd Week] 2008.01.08 - 2008.01.14
Spoiler:

2008.01.08

Position: #3
Index: 8,076
Estimate Sales (15th Day): 8,076 X 1.7 = 13,729


2008.01.09

Position: #3
Index: 5,930
Estimate Sales (16th Day): 5,930 X 1.7 = 10,081


2008.01.10

Position: #3
Index: 4,646
Estimate Sales (17th Day): 4,646 X 1.7 = 7,898


2008.01.11

Position: #3
Index: 3,293
Estimate Sales (18th Day): 3,293 X 1.7 = 5,598


2008.01.12

Position: #4
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (19th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.13

Position: #3
Index: 6,740
Estimate Sales (20th Day): 6,740 X 1.7 = 11,458


2008.01.14

Position: #4
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (21st Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


[4th Week] 2008.01.15 - 2008.01.21
Spoiler:

2008.01.15

Position: #7
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (22nd Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.16

Position: #8
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (23rd Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.17

Position: #7
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (24th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.18

Position: #7
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (25th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.19

Position: #11
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (26th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.20

Position: #7
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (27th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.21

Position: #7
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (28th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------




This Week Daily Ranking & Sales

[5th Week]

2008.01.22

Position: #22
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (29th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.23

Position: ----
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (30th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------


2008.01.24

Position: #17
Index: ------
Estimate Sales (31th Day): ------ X 1.7 = ------




Weekly Ranking & Sales


[1st & 2nd Week] 2008.01.14

Position: #2
Sales: 432,113


[3rd Week] 2008.01.21

Position: #2
Sales: 72,027


[4th Week] 2008.01.28

Position: #7
Sales: 24,715




Total Sales: 528,855




Oricon Style Daily Ranking
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/

Oricon Style Weekly Ranking
http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/w/

Oricon Style
http://www.oricon.co.jp


Oh my! Thankies for the info!

OMG! Ayumi's out of the top 20....already?! :grumpy Blast Kobukuro! They needed to stop selling....like crazy! :weep It's not fair that our Ayumi isn't selling like that anymore. I though this album was okay....so it was suppose to chart really well...which I don't think it did! I guess we can say goodbye to her charting in the top 10 on the yearly charts this year. :o

@naiime: Thank you, party-killer! :lmfao

TITANIC 26th January 2008 01:07 PM

alot of album has realesed today so it make guilty out of top 20 daily

tokyoxjapanxfan 26th January 2008 04:30 PM

woah, exile's has sold over 1 million?! they arent even good, i think the main singers voice is *awful* >_< the only song i enjoy by them is choo choo train, haha! but ayu's still doing well. she's not at her peak anymore, so we cant expect AMAZING sales :P exile and kobukuro are both probably at their peaks right now, which explains the high sales.

summersnow 26th January 2008 04:34 PM

the sales not bad!

thanks for the info! go Ayu! go GUILTY!!

Teyla 26th January 2008 05:48 PM

not bad but it could be better :grumpy
kobukuro is awful :( why it sells that well? :grumpy

andrepaul 26th January 2008 07:39 PM

This week, Guilty will be certainly beaten by... Kobu's best. lol

Teyla 26th January 2008 10:03 PM

that's not right

~X2RADialbomber~ 26th January 2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teyla (Post 1315644)
not bad but it could be better :grumpy
kobukuro is awful :( why it sells that well? :grumpy

Because some people actually love Kobukuro :)

Teyla 26th January 2008 10:23 PM

they are wrong :P

minna 27th January 2008 01:13 AM

the sales are not bad but it could be better
I hope it's going to go higher and higher

TITANIC 27th January 2008 09:05 AM

kobukuro also sell a million..
this year kobukuro and exile can sell a million copies...

this year is better than 2007 that the best album only sold 1,1 million

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 09:18 AM

Aren't sales always could be better? It's not like there's a maximum... but those sales aren't low, 530,000 is not a low number and it will most likely arrive 550,000 next week.
The sales drop from Secret to GUILTY aren't really low, it's still 150,000 range, which means ayu's popularity didn't decrease much.

Zeke. 27th January 2008 09:33 AM

Maybe she should start pulling some publicity stunts. Take a few hints from Ms. Britney Spears.

truehappiness 27th January 2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 1316849)
Maybe she should start pulling some publicity stunts. Take a few hints from Ms. Britney Spears.

Well those only helped Blackout for a week.

Then the album plummeted. LOL

Zeke. 27th January 2008 09:38 AM

^ Yeah but Britney's been declining for quite a while (and I don't mean her sales). Ayu has always just been the same Ayu in the public eye. If she started doing shocker after shocker - maybe sell out to the public. One CD for all types of people; for example, XXX photoshoot for adults.

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 10:05 AM

I rathar ayu stays herself though.
ayu is making music, she has enough money I don't think she cares that much as long as people listen and half a million is a pretty big number.

TITANIC 27th January 2008 10:22 AM

^ she dont care about the sales, but avex care... because they want earn more money :D

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 11:30 AM

Therefore, they only do stuff for the money's best >_>.

Jwiz 27th January 2008 06:29 PM

simply madness; 5269 claimed the top spot again. [omg]

*Petit* 27th January 2008 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~X2RADialbomber~ (Post 1316088)
Because some people actually love Kobukuro :)

that's highly immoral!

andrepaul 27th January 2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HJeweL (Post 1317431)
simply madness; 5269 claimed the top spot again. [omg]

Kobu is too strong.
#1 for the new album
#5 for the best

Guilty is so weak, beaten by BOC, Misia, Kobu's best. :innocent :no

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrepaul (Post 1317462)
Kobu is too strong.
#1 for the new album
#5 for the best

Guilty is so weak, beaten by BOC, Misia, Kobu's best. :innocent :no

MISIA wish her album would sell like GUILTY did though :innocent (even plused and doubled with her last album GUILTY sold more). and GUILTY reached top weekly position #2 while MISIA's #3.

kobukuro is a popular boy band, they're not comparable to ayu.

Ayumiko 27th January 2008 07:08 PM

well GUILTY already sold over 500k and that's all I care about :D The only thing I care about now is the ASIA TOUR DVD! I want it bad!!!

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 07:11 PM

^Me too T_T.

Zeke. 27th January 2008 10:14 PM

^Same here. It's basically the main reason I come on AHS now-a-days. At least give us an official announcement DAMN IT!

ayumisrael 27th January 2008 10:28 PM

lmao I still wonder what taking it so long.

futureLOVE 28th January 2008 04:23 AM

^ I seriously think that there will be the release of AT07 on the same day as a new single...just my prediction.

catcher_inthelight 28th January 2008 06:36 AM

wow a little dissapointing for such a good album

TITANIC 28th January 2008 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1317474)
well GUILTY already sold over 500k and that's all I care about :D The only thing I care about now is the ASIA TOUR DVD! I want it bad!!!

and it already offical ^^
12/03/08 :D..
how about today???
i didnt search on oricon..
is that guilty out of top 20 again???

EDIT : and today guilty back to top 20 again :D
#16 behind misia eightworld..
ang how great kobukuro, they back to #1 again...exile also #5

4ever*ayu 28th January 2008 02:53 PM

^still hanging on top 20, not so bad at all, keep it up GUILTY!!

AyuGAME 28th January 2008 03:18 PM

kobukuro back to number one?!?!?!?!
MY GOD!!!

TITANIC 28th January 2008 03:36 PM

^ yepp..with indicator 12K more..
thats very strong,..
maybe now kobukuro already surpass exile love

Luv ~Venus~ 28th January 2008 04:27 PM

Kobukuro is starting to annoy me when their sales and charting performance. It's so unfair. lol They already passed exile. *sigh* I guess they have a guaranteed #1 spot on the yearly chart this year....(>_>) ALL SINGLES BEST might be the #2 album of the too.

AyuGAME 28th January 2008 04:46 PM

^ i dont think all single best can pass any top artist 2008 album release...
we will see when koda and hikki album release...hopefully they can kick kobukuro from number one spot

Luv ~Venus~ 28th January 2008 04:51 PM

^ALL SINGLES BEST is still in the top ten....and it's been just about 2 years since that album was released. Hikki hasn't charted like that since First Love/Single Collection and Koda...well I don't how well she charts but still, their albums looks like no match for the Kobupower. :weep

AyuGAME 28th January 2008 05:15 PM

^kobupower...LOL...

Jwiz 28th January 2008 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1318899)
^ i dont think all single best can pass any top artist 2008 album release...
we will see when koda and hikki album release...hopefully they can kick kobukuro from number one spot

agree wth venus..i doubt they will [ not doubting their ability of course ]. It's just that kobukuro really has some magical powers; their All Single Best charted for years and still manage to sell so well now..and 5269 still have a sales indicator of 12k even after many weeks. Sometimes i really wonder why kobukuro is so popular.

ayumisrael 29th January 2008 09:12 AM

Last week A BEST 2 -BLACK- charted!

#219 ***,721 *,702,895 *36 浜崎あゆみ「A BEST 2-BLACK-」

ayumisrael 29th January 2008 10:02 AM

sorry for double

GUILTY's 5th Week! - Another top 20 week!

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340
Total Sales: 541,195

Minttulatte 29th January 2008 11:59 AM

Ooh, GUILTY's back in Top 20. Awesome. Good for it. <3 GUILTY's not selling bad at all, I think. It's really good actually. At least I like that a lot. Go, Ayu go! <3

And I think Koda can take the top spot from Kobukuro easily, because she is really popular at the moment. And I think Utada's popularity has increased a bit, because she has sold better with singles last year than Ayu and Koda Kumi. Or that's what I think. And yeah, I'm a fan of Utada, Ayu and Koda Kumi. I don't really care who will have the top spot, I just want their albums.

Tomorrow Koda will release Kingdom btw. :3 Let's see how she can do, muhaha. :D

ayumisrael 29th January 2008 12:03 PM

She has no real competition of course Kingdom will be #1 =P lol

truehappiness 29th January 2008 12:04 PM

Seriously. :|

KuroixShiroi_Namida 29th January 2008 12:06 PM

Aww that means Koda Kumi might knock her out of top20 this time.

WHo else is releasing tomorrow?

ayumisrael 29th January 2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuroixShiroi_Namida (Post 1320243)
Aww that means Koda Kumi might knock her out of top20 this time.

WHo else is releasing tomorrow?

Ummm no. If kumi's album was the only one released tomorrow I doubt GUILTY would be out of top 20, but it's not all about kumi and there will be more new albums released.

I remember CHEMISTRY's album will be released tomorrow but if ayu pwned them so most likely kumi too.

AyuGAME 29th January 2008 01:01 PM

not bad 600k is an easy target...
CHEMISTRY'S has lost their fans, i don't think they can do anything now

ayumisrael 29th January 2008 01:06 PM

How come they lost them though?

Halla 29th January 2008 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1320272)
How come they lost them though?

Kobukuro stole them :P

CHEMISTRY's 2006 best album only sold like 500k, they're not that huge anymore it seems.

TITANIC 29th January 2008 01:16 PM

^ i'm sure GUILTY will out of top 20 because more album realese tomorrow

today guilty climb up again to 14..
thats great

ruixiong89 29th January 2008 03:10 PM

Let's hope it stays there! Kobukoro is seriously INSANE. I think it's going to sell like A BEST in relative terms of popularity.

TITANIC 29th January 2008 03:13 PM

kobukuro still in #1 daily again...they are very strong...
exile LOVE also still in #5

futureLOVE 29th January 2008 03:22 PM

Kingdom and HEART STATION will most probably/definitely take the #1 spot for their respective weeks....maybe a couple even after they're released depending on the releases that follow.

im liking GUILTY's sales :)

Teyla 29th January 2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1320275)
^ i'm sure GUILTY will out of top 20 because more album realese tomorrow

today guilty climb up again to 14..
thats great

that's great :)

Neil 29th January 2008 04:45 PM

540k....
Unless Ayu can hang around at the bottom of the charts for a long time (like Black Cherry) then she might hit 600k. However, it's doubtful :(

Northerner 29th January 2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1320435)
540k....
Unless Ayu can hang around at the bottom of the charts for a long time (like Black Cherry) then she might hit 600k. However, it's doubtful :(

I actually think there's a pretty good chance of that happening. After all, she hasn't even started the tour yet.

Ayumiko 29th January 2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1320166)
sorry for double

GUILTY's 5th Week! - Another top 20 week!

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340
Total Sales: 541,195

thanks for the update! I think guilty will make it to 600k...definitely 550k (which is very good!) It's only the 5th week too.

futureLOVE 29th January 2008 08:23 PM

i think GUILTY will probably end up selling right around where Secret sold....how many weeks did it take for Secret to fall out of the top 20?

ayu_fan929 29th January 2008 10:06 PM

^7 weeks.

KaoriNeko 29th January 2008 10:35 PM

GUILTY seems like it'll have more staying power than Secret. I hope it'll keep selling throughout the year.

4ever*ayu 29th January 2008 11:26 PM

Hope for the best guys...always hope for the best!

elepop 30th January 2008 12:05 AM

By the end of the year, she'll probably have 600,000 copies sold. If the tour helps, maybe 650,000 copies max.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1320713)
GUILTY seems like it'll have more staying power than Secret. I hope it'll keep selling throughout the year.

Umm. I don't know about this. I think GUILTY will be out of the top 20 next week. Secret stayed longer.

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 10:19 AM

BTW no one posted it but GUILTY's 6th week first day's position is #14.

Luv ~Venus~ 30th January 2008 10:48 AM

^Thankies my luv!

Yay! It's in the top 15! I hope she can pull a Kobupower and return to the top 5! (T-T) Is so wrong for her to achieve that again with GUILTY?!

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1321360)
^Thankies my luv!

Yay! It's in the top 15! I hope she can pull a Kobupower and return to the top 5! (T-T) Is so wrong for her to achieve that again with GUILTY?!

Most people there are more into oldies boy bands my love >_>

EDIT

GUILTY's 6th week first 2 days positions:

Day 1: #14
Day 2: #28

Luv ~Venus~ 30th January 2008 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1321362)
Most people there are more into oldies boy bands my love >_>

EDIT

GUILTY's 6th week first 2 days positions:

Day 1: #14
Day 2: #28

But that's not fair! Boybands are crappy! XD [Except for my faves! lol]

I just read that Kumiko debuted at #1 with 143 K! That's just her first day! Aw....she's gonna surpass Ayu's 1st and 2nd week sales at this rate! :(

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1321371)
But that's not fair! Boybands are crappy! XD [Except for my faves! lol]

I just read that Kumiko debuted at #1 with 143 K! That's just her first day! Aw....she's gonna surpass Ayu's 1st and 2nd week sales at this rate! :(

It was pretty obvious x_x nothing surprising and comparable, who cares XD.

Aggar 30th January 2008 11:32 AM

^^ *sigh* feel bad for Ayu but gotta accept the truth "if"

Luv ~Venus~ 30th January 2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1321373)
It was pretty obvious x_x nothing surprising and comparable, who cares XD.

I do! :weep

I shouldn't be surprised or anything about Kuu's sales but I don't want it to surpass Ayu's first week sales [well, her combined sales] that fast. I'm starting to wonder how Hikki will do on the charts now. :(

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 11:47 AM

Yeah but as their sales are not really comparable as you know
It's like comparing kobukuro and kumi's =\ her album will never sell more than theirs.

Aggar 30th January 2008 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1321384)
Yeah but as their sales are not really comparable as you know
It's like comparing kobukuro and kumi's =\ her album will never sell more than theirs.

:vsad

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 11:51 AM

Different artists, different popularitires, different peaks times, different promotions, different gimmicks, that's what sales about these years.

AyuGAME 30th January 2008 01:34 PM

kumi debut with 143K?! wow..thats HUGE!!!
i thought kingdom is her worse album...i just like one song from that album...
OMG!!! can't believe it....

Zemus 30th January 2008 01:40 PM

Look at what that album includes. Doesn't it like have 2 DVD's and PV for every song. It's no surprise it sells well. You guys shouldn't care so much about it ;)

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1321446)
kumi debut with 143K?! wow..thats HUGE!!!
i thought kingdom is her worse album...i just like one song from that album...
OMG!!! can't believe it....

Well known sales are about quantity those years.

BC debuted higher >_>.

leo_nardez 30th January 2008 02:01 PM

^ zemus

totally agree with you..
2 dvd full of PVs and also another one is her concert izit?
everyone will be tempted to buy, OF COURSE!

TITANIC 30th January 2008 02:58 PM

out from top 20 today..

kingdom debuting very high
its about 140K in 1st day..

Northerner 30th January 2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zemus (Post 1321449)
Look at what that album includes. Doesn't it like have 2 DVD's and PV for every song. It's no surprise it sells well. You guys shouldn't care so much about it ;)

Yeah, the gimmicks for that thing were insane.

I'd like to see Ayu try something like that for her next album, though --- it's all designed to encourage physical sales instead of digital so the album can get a higher debut.

njanjayrp 30th January 2008 05:42 PM

Well Ayu has more high budget PVs, while Kumi's are rather poor, at least Kingdom ones, but that was expected.And I think that we have to accept that Ayu isn't in her prime anymore, and that whatever she does might not be enough to get back to selling a million.I guess it's not that there is less people liking her, but just that she isn't a trend and that people prefer downloading her music. Plus Kingdom is mostly an album made of pure flops, and it will still sell good, cuz she has the attention, and 2 DVDs, as if the quality was always the best selling Shimatani (and a few others) would be near if not in the very top.

Jwiz 30th January 2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1321446)
kumi debut with 143K?! wow..thats HUGE!!!
i thought kingdom is her worse album...i just like one song from that album...
OMG!!! can't believe it....

I know we should'nt be making a big fuss out of it BUT im really impressed with koda's first day's sales index!!

My eyes were wide open upon seeing this huge figure. lol

I liked a handful of them though..and i only dislike koda's new ballads in this album.

Oh by the i really hope to see GUILTY breaking the 600k sales figure:P

ayu_fan929 30th January 2008 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1321557)
Plus Kingdom is mostly an album made of pure flops,

What do you mean by pure flops?

Ayumiko 30th January 2008 07:42 PM

koda's first day sales is alot...(congrats to her) but I'm not surprised. Kingdom is the most deluxe package I've ever seen for a album...so if it doesn't do well, I'll be surprised. I wonder if it will sell more than black cherry at the end.

njanjayrp 30th January 2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1321578)
What do you mean by pure flops?

album "fillers", songs that compared to the tracks that were released as singles don't stick out & don't seem good enough.Almost every Ku album had at least 3-4, besides 2nd Session of course.

ayumisrael 30th January 2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1321657)
album "fillers", songs that compared to the tracks that were released as singles don't stick out & don't seem good enough.Almost every Ku album had at least 3-4, besides 2nd Session of course.

Well though I hate the overly cute songs (they're not really famous among us foreighners) but her japanese fan girls die about her cute songs and Kingdom has 4!! But yeah most people here (I think) agree that the new songs aren't that amazing, they are just good enough to be better than previous Black Cherry's songs.

tokyoxjapanxfan 30th January 2008 09:02 PM

i actually, really, only like a few of the kingdom tracks. more, last angel, and koi no mashou (or somethin like that?) those are the only ones i like :-\ but i dont really care haha. its not surprising, not quite sure why people are surprised. we all know kuu is more popular currently, and it had a bajillion things more than guilty did. a pv for every song, a big poster, a concert--thats a lot better than just a photobook :P

njanjayrp 30th January 2008 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 1321705)
i actually, really, only like a few of the kingdom tracks. more, last angel, and koi no mashou (or somethin like that?) those are the only ones i like :-\ but i dont really care haha. its not surprising, not quite sure why people are surprised. we all know kuu is more popular currently, and it had a bajillion things more than guilty did. a pv for every song, a big poster, a concert--thats a lot better than just a photobook :P

yea..and well I only liked LAST ANGEL, BUT and aisho, and I loved girls but she decided not to include it :no
and XD we should really move back to Ayu ^^


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