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marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:09 PM

Koda has been kicked off from Viseé
 
im not her fan so its so good news to me!!! thanks to her statement she has made a lot of problems to her. avex wont promote Kingdom anymore and now this fire from Visee too. :lech:lech:lech:lech:lech
I hope that Ayumi will again get the contract:lech:lech:lech:lech
they even removed everything about her from visee page ^^
if you dont belive here you go check visee page:
http://www.visee.jp/index.html
or try aswel kose home page:
http://www.kose.co.jp/

micster 5th February 2008 08:09 PM

Ahem. Powned.

ImpactBreaker 5th February 2008 08:10 PM

Sources, please?

And ayu has like 0% chance of being on viseé ads again. They're hypocritical enough to criticize what koda did, but they probably consider ayu an ancient geezer to have her in their ads.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:10 PM

Er... is there really proof?

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:11 PM

Thats freaking horrible.

Over reacting people 03853- Grr >W<

Kuu is so much prettier than Ayu >W<
Kuu is such a better makeup model.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327049)
Kuu is so much prettier than Ayu >W<
Kuu is such a better makeup model.

That's a subjective thing. Personally I think Kumi has her hit and miss days while Ayu constantly looks like a true diva.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 5th February 2008 08:14 PM

Ayu is prettier than Kuu and i don't think she'll be contracted for visee again ;x!

ImpactBreaker 5th February 2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327049)
Kuu is so much prettier than Ayu >W<

hmmm...ayu is prettier imo...but koda is hotter LOL

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327052)
That's a subjective thing. Personally I think Kumi has her hit and miss days while Ayu constantly looks like a true diva.

Matter of opinion.
0.0 I mean, I love Ayu and all, But Kuu is special to me XD
I think they are both beautiful, but Ayu looks so fake its crazy.

Luv ~Venus~ 5th February 2008 08:15 PM

Ayu vs Koda: Round 1 ---- FIGHT! :innocent

Wow! That's pretty messed! I hope that her popularity doesn't suffer too much with that important endorsement of hers gone now. :(

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327056)
Matter of opinion.
0.0 I mean, I love Ayu and all, But Kuu is special to me XD
I think they are both beautiful, but Ayu looks so fake its crazy.

Yeah but Kumi lately looks like a plastic barbie too lately. Sometimes her endorsements make her face look so fake that it barely looks like hers.

Anyway this thread is useless since there's apparently no proof. Doubt Visee will dump Kumi unless they have someone else up their sleeve. And honestly right now no one looks like an ideal candidate unless they'll choose a model like Emi Suzuki.

m-a-z-e 5th February 2008 08:17 PM

ooooh Jesus. >__> Marekcarey get a LIFE and GROW UP.

~Matt~ 5th February 2008 08:18 PM

The fact is that Koda is more popular than Ayu right now... so I can't figure out why her contract with Kose was finished (obviously if this is true xD)

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327058)
Yeah but Kumi lately looks like a plastic barbie too lately.

Personally, I think they are both pretty enough to work for Visee.
Ayubabys eyes bug me sometimes though @.@

I want sauce for this. Link please?

Kuu is to much of a moneymaker to be dropped D=
Its probally a temporary ban..


@ Luv: Kuu vs Ayu 0.0?
I want both T.T

m-a-z-e 5th February 2008 08:19 PM

I don't think her contract has ended? Unless I've missed everything in the ever hectic Kuu thread. She's just removed whilst the scandal is still fresh in the air, right?

andrepaul 5th February 2008 08:19 PM

Honestly ayu is too old.

greggerz189 5th February 2008 08:20 PM

I thought they just closed her website? That would be a real shame if they terminated her contract.

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrepaul (Post 1327065)
Honestly ayu is too old.

I don't think its smart to hate on Ayu on an Ayu forum.
Like, she is god here 0.0;;

Ayu still looks young anyways @.@

ImpactBreaker 5th February 2008 08:22 PM

i think they're awaiting for this "scandal" to chill out. Only after that may we trulky know if viseé is keeping her or not, unless they make an official statement beforehand.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327063)
Personally, I think they are both pretty enough to work for Visee.
Ayubabys eyes bug me sometimes though @.@

Yeah me too. I find it kinda weird that people say her eyes are "too big" since they're just big for Asian standards and not European standards. Actually most people around here appreciate when eyes are deep and "large". They portray more emotion. Girls here get compliments by guys for that reason ;)

Neo Daydream 5th February 2008 08:22 PM

why would they drop Koda Kumi?
I don't like her. i've tried to so many times but I can't...
Kuu can look good sometimes but Ayu looks gorgeous alot more often
and they both look fake at times...

but i really wanna know what Kuu did to get dropped by Visee (if itz true)

ImpactBreaker 5th February 2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo Daydream (Post 1327071)
why would they drop Koda Kumi?
I don't like her. i've tried to so many times but I can't...
Kuu can look good sometimes but Ayu looks gorgeous alot more often
and they both look fake at times...

but i really wanna know what Kuu did to get dropped by Visee (if itz true)

She basically said in an interview that she wanted to have babies before being 35 yo, because after that, the women who got pregnant have rotten amniotic fluids, so she wouldn't like to get pregnant after that. It seems like people in Japan madly overreact to this dumb statement, since koda even included herself in that (one day she'll be 35 too)

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327069)
Yeah me too. I find it kinda weird that people say her eyes are "too big" since they're just big for Asian standards and not European standards. Actually most people around here appreciate when eyes are deep and "large". They portray more emotion. Girls here get compliments by guys for that reason ;)

I just think its aggrivating that Ayu changed herself @.@ I mean, she was a beatiful Grovure model @.@ I don't know XD I don't know why anyone would want to modify themselves so much when they were originally beautiful XD

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:28 PM

she did a lot of mess thanks to her statement ^^
avex wont pormote Kingdom anymore, Visee dropped her. Im curious what will come now.
I believed that Kingdom will flop, and when it has amazing start I was simply sad. But I wouldnt expect somethin like this would happen!!! This even much more better than if she would just simply flop with her album ^^

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327080)
she did a lot of mess thanks to her statement ^^
avex wont pormote Kingdom anymore, Visee dropped her. Im curious what will come now.
I believed that Kingdom will flop, and when it has amazing start I was simply sad. But I wouldnt expect somethin like this would happen!!! This even much more better if she would just simply flop with her album ^^

She isn't promoting it on a self-suspension... not Avex :irked

And show me where you found this info at?
Right now without proof its still just a rumor.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327079)
I just think its aggrivating that Ayu changed herself @.@ I mean, she was a beatiful Grovure model @.@ I don't know XD I don't know why anyone would want to modify themselves so much when they were originally beautiful XD

Mate every avex artist goes through a transformation when they sign a contract with them. Kumi too was extremely different from her teenage days. She even had her mole removed and went on a diet. Probably also went under the knife on other things.

It's all about image in Japan and all artists are willing to change in order to be popular.

Anyway it's kinda mean and immature that certain people here are celebrating over this. It's not fair if she does lose her contract over something so small.

OT: Is Aya Ueto promoting Fasio? No more BoA then?

Beauty4123 5th February 2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327044)
im not her fan so its so good news to me!!! thanks to her statement she has made a lot of problems to her. avex wont promote Kingdom anymore and now this fire from Visee too. :lech:lech:lech:lech:lech
I hope that Ayumi will again get the contract:lech:lech:lech:lech
they even removed everything about her from visee page ^^
if you dont belive here you go check visee page:
http://www.visee.jp/index.html
or try aswel kose home page:
http://www.kose.co.jp/

the only thing i have to say to you about this:

:rolleyes

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:34 PM

You have bad informations tamale. Avex stpped any promotion of it. What is she? She cant decide she will promote something or not. She may decide she will go to TV but thats all. And album promotion isnt only in TV shows. there arecommercials, all these posters around and do you think she pays for that everything herself? nope. he record label does.
and it may be rumour or not, nobody ordered you to belive to it. this is chat thread and if you have any problem with it you dont have to read it.

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327084)
Mate every avex artist goes through a transformation when they sign a contract with them. Kumi too was extremely different from her teenage days. She even had her mole removed and went on a diet. Probably also went under the knife on other things.

It's all about image in Japan and all artists are willing to change in order to be popular.

Though, I think that is in every country right?
Anyone will change if they think it will bring fortune and fame.

I mean, I know I would.

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beauty4123 (Post 1327085)
the only thing i have to say to you about this:

:rolleyes

i love you too :luv2:luv2:luv2

ImpactBreaker 5th February 2008 08:38 PM

marekcarey, why would avex stop promotion? They AREN'T DUMB. avex will stop earning money because of something koda said? Don't make me laugh

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327093)
Though, I think that is in every country right?
Anyone will change if they think it will bring fortune and fame.

I mean, I know I would.

Not really. In my country a natural look is more valued in a celebrity because they appear more "down to earth" and approachable. More fake-looking celebrities tend to be well.. made fun of over here ^^;

However in countries like Japan, people have these idealized image of celebrities and that's why they take it so badly when the celebrity does not appear as perfect as they imagined them to be. Of course many US and European celebrities go under the knife.

Personally I wouldn't change because I like the way I look :P but to each their own.

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1327098)
marekcarey, why would avex stop promotion? They AREN'T DUMB. avex will stop earning money because of something koda said? Don't make me laugh

I second you.
You make so much sense :yes

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1327098)
marekcarey, why would avex stop promotion? They AREN'T DUMB. avex will stop earning money because of something koda said? Don't make me laugh

Why??? Go to read official page. Can you imagine what scandal she made thanks to that statement around whole Japan? Every woman feels offended by it and Avex got milions of complaints thanks to it. And so Avex said that as a excuse for what she said, promotion will be stopped.
Scandals in Japan wont bring you fame but shame. Her Cds buy at most teenagers, and thanks to this their parents wont buy them the CD and wont allow them to listen a singer who offended their pride.

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327104)
Why??? Go to read official page. Can you imagine what scandal she made thanks to that statement around whole Japan? Every woman feel offended by it and Avex got milions of complaints thank to it. And so Avex said that as a sorry, promotion will be stopped.
Scandals in Japan wont bring you fame but shame. Ker Cds but at most teenagers, and thanks to this their parents wont buy them the CD and wont allow them to listen a singer who offended their pride.

You speak Japanese?
The message has been translated already, and it says that the suspension is self-done.
Kuu chose to do this herself.

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327107)
You speak Japanese?
The message has been translated already, and it says that the suspension is self-done.
Kuu chose to do this herself.

Kuu doesnt decide what Avex will do. She is not president of company. She has a ontract and only Avex can change it. And when promotion is cancelled its not cos of she said that...This is called business lamb.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 08:51 PM

Seems to me that marekcarey is having some wishful thinking :P Kumi is a cash cow and avex won't dump her so easily.

xiaou-xijiang 5th February 2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327104)
Why??? Go to read official page. Can you imagine what scandal she made thanks to that statement around whole Japan? Every woman feels offended by it and Avex got milions of complaints thanks to it. And so Avex said that as a excuse for what she said, promotion will be stopped.
Scandals in Japan wont bring you fame but shame. Her Cds buy at most teenagers, and thanks to this their parents wont buy them the CD and wont allow them to listen a singer who offended their pride.

I can't understand you're reasoning about the Parents thing. Wishful thinking?
Besides, even bad publicity helps sales. :shrug

Besides after all the money she's been racking in these past few years, Koda Kumi has enough standing in the business to cut of promotion if she wants to.
" Avex said that as a excuse for what she said, promotion will be stopped.
Scandals in Japan wont bring you fame but shame."

source?

Maybe what you heard was: Avex is supporting her decision to suspend her promoting until the bad press dies down.

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327108)
Kuu doesnt decide what Avex will do. She is not president of company. She has a ontract and only Avex can change it. And when promotion is cancelled its not cos of she said that...This is called business lamb.

When you can read japanese, you can tell me what it says.

But the translation time and time again will tell you that SHE is choosing not to make appearences. She is choosing not to go and promote the album. :shakehead

Just because she isn't out there dosen't mean its not going to sell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiaou-xijiang (Post 1327113)
I can't understand you're reasoning about the Parents thing. Wishful thinking?
Besides, even bad publicity helps sales. :shrug

Besides after all the money she's been racking in these past few years, Koda Kumi has enough standing in the business to cut of promotion if she wants to.
" Avex said that as a excuse for what she said, promotion will be stopped.
Scandals in Japan wont bring you fame but shame."

source?

Maybe what you heard was: Avex is supporting her decision to suspend her promoting until the bad press dies down.

Exactlyyyyy.

marekcarey 5th February 2008 08:57 PM

cant you go through this? are u normal? her promotion is stopped and she made a lot of problems and you WONT change it okay? so breathe and continue to live. you wont die cos of she is fired and aswell you wont get more bread to eat if she wouldnt. so realize yourself.

Suteisi 5th February 2008 09:05 PM

I'm sorry to say this, but you might want to take your own advise?

What you're saying doesn't make much sense to me. There is no news anywhere saying that they fired her. A huge company like Avex will not fire an artist like Koda Kumi just because of something she said. Artists make mistakes, they are humans, just like everybody else. Besides, that's bad wording because a recording company doesn't 'fire' an artist, they terminate their contract.

I'm not a fan of Koda Kumi. I'm not interested in her, even so, what others are saying makes a lot more sense than what you are saying.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1327119)
cant you go through this? are u normal? her promotion is stopped and she made a lot of problems and you WONT change it okay? so breathe and continue to live. you wont die cos of she is fired and aswell you wont get more bread to eat if she wouldnt. so realize yourself.

I think you don't know how the Japanese music industry works mate. Usually it would take something much much bigger for an artist to get fired. When a scandal takes place usually the record label takes the artist away from the spotlight so the audience can "cool down".

Ayumiko 5th February 2008 09:27 PM

There is no way avex will dump koda over this scandal. It is still not official if her endorsement deals are terminated. As of now her sites are just temporary closed.

on the other hand, I read in the chinese newspaper the empress of the imperial family in Japan gave birth to the prince after she was 35....so in a way koda 'offended' the imperial family. o_O...

Halla 5th February 2008 09:28 PM

the fate of Koda's Viseé contract is still undecided.

I do think it's likely tho that she'll lose plenty of her commercial endorsement deals. The advertisers might not want to wait for her to end her hiatus, they need someone for promo-work sooner.
There's no shortage of suitable idols/models/artists who to pick for campaigns, why pick Kuu who might possible be hated by a important customer base instead of someone new & fresh?

I didn't think Kuu was a good pick for viseé anyways, I don't think Kuu has the face for make-up ads & beauty shots.
Kuu's Gillette ads are sorta bad compared to hitomi. Kuu's stumpy legs vs hitomi's model-ish long legs, it wasn't really working for Kuu ...

rikku411 5th February 2008 09:31 PM

Hmm, this thread seems to be going all over the place xD

If it is true that she got kicked from Visee, then that's unfortunate.

I won't get into the whole thing with her 'suspension' and Avex :P

Ayumiko 5th February 2008 09:36 PM

If koda were to be replaced by a new spokesperson for visee, I highly doubt they will use ayu again. They already had her and plus her image moved on to a more mature higher class. Brands like christian dior would be more suited for ayu. If Erika didn't screw up, I think she would have a high chance to be the next spokesperson. Leah? I dunno...

Raleigh 5th February 2008 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1327146)
I didn't think Kuu was a good pick for viseé anyways, I don't think Kuu has the face for make-up ads & beauty shots.
Kuu's Gillette ads are sorta bad compared to hitomi. Kuu's stumpy legs vs hitomi's model-ish long legs, it wasn't really working for Kuu ...

I wasn't fond of Kumi's Gilette ads either. Kumi doesn't have long legs in comparison with artists like hitomi. Plus there's no shortage of models which have long legs which could've done a better job.

With regards to Visee, well Kumi wasn't bad especially after Beni. Imo Beni was the most mediocre Visee contract. Kumi just has her hit and miss moments, where sometimes she looks good, while others she looks awkward. However Ayu seemed more fit for that role in her time. Anyway if Kumi gets replaced it'll probably be someone young since Visee is usually focused on fresh faces.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 5th February 2008 09:41 PM

I still think Otsuka Ai is the prettiest in avex but iunno if she'll be suitable for visee though. Leah Dizon? She doesn't look pretty much.

This is kinda off-topic but what is this photo shoot for?:
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6791/300pxkkith0.jpg
Because it's kinda fugly ;x!

Raleigh 5th February 2008 09:42 PM

^ Honda

Kobayashiwoof 5th February 2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuroixShiroi_Namida (Post 1327157)
I still think Otsuka Ai is the prettiest in avex but iunno if she'll be suitable for visee though. Leah Dizon? She doesn't look pretty much.

LAWLZ!!!!


*sigh* the Kumi hate, she isnt getting dropped from AVEX <_<

Halla 5th February 2008 09:57 PM

Otsuka Ai is more cute than anything, I don't think she's suited for Viseé which is more sexy & hip.

Viseé really downgraded after Ayu. Beni is really fug & I just don't think the face is Kuu's best asset, I have to admit tho that her visee promos are probably the best photos of her.
Anna Tsuchiya was alright, but I'm not too fond of her either.

I think alan would be best suited for a cosmetics campaign, but her look is more classic so maybe she'd be better suited for a bit classier brand like Kanebo or something?

IMO most beautiful artists on avex:
Ayu
alan
hitomi
Hitomi Shimatani

Kobayashiwoof 5th February 2008 10:11 PM

^hitomi is really hot and she is older :D, if only she was used as an AVEX diva :D

[kokoro♥] 5th February 2008 10:12 PM

I <3 Leah :3 Though, I sill don't want her to replace Kuu @.@

austin. ♥ 5th February 2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327084)
OT: Is Aya Ueto promoting Fasio? No more BoA then?

Rumors are circulating that BoA will be replacing Kumi. Apparently her song "Happy Birthday" will be used.

But this is on BoAjjang, so yeah. x]

everlastingRAINBOW 5th February 2008 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1327182)
IMO most beautiful artists on avex:
Ayu
alan
hitomi
Hitomi Shimatani

:yes! You couldn't be more right :D

Bazaa 5th February 2008 10:26 PM

The thing atm is that Koda stopped promoting by her own will, and Viseé took down all the advertisement that featured her. It doesn't mean she got fired, the thing we're sure about is that, for now, the advertisement has stopped.

Quote:

cant you go through this? are u normal? her promotion is stopped and she made a lot of problems and you WONT change it okay? so breathe and continue to live. you wont die cos of she is fired and aswell you wont get more bread to eat if she wouldnt. so realize yourself.
It's true that she made a lot of problems with her statement, but you're being pretty rude here. I'm not even her fan, but the whole attention this thing has been given the last days kinda bugs me :rolleyes

darc_aqua 5th February 2008 10:30 PM

Maybe she didn't get her facts straight when she said it, the people overreact too much. Here in the US, people are 100x crazier and nothings bad has happened to them like being put out of business.

Raleigh 5th February 2008 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1327193)
Rumors are circulating that BoA will be replacing Kumi. Apparently her song "Happy Birthday" will be used.

But this is on BoAjjang, so yeah. x]

I see. It makes sense in a way. BoA is quite young and she's still got the hot factor so it doesn't make sense that Kose would be getting rid of her yet.

Coelacanth 5th February 2008 11:42 PM

Ugh, Japanese music industry scandals are so dull. Can we get like a sex tape or something?

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 5th February 2008 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327049)
Kuu is so much prettier than Ayu >W<
Kuu is such a better makeup model.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4124/rofldj9.gifhttp://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4124/rofldj9.gif...and Britney is prettier than Gisele Bündchen http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4124/rofldj9.gifhttp://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4124/rofldj9.gif

Bazaa 6th February 2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 1327272)
Ugh, Japanese music industry scandals are so dull. Can we get like a sex tape or something?

LOL XD I think then it would be the end of the world!

CHE.R.RY 6th February 2008 12:48 AM

So she's been dropped entirely? LOL I highly doubt that Ayu will be resigned to Visee...I just don't see it happening. They'll just find a new face, something fresh on the music scene...like Satomi Takasugi xD (JK)! But geez, this is really hurting Kumi...I wonder if she'll be able to redeem herself? :(

happiholic★ 6th February 2008 01:06 AM

According to this article, Kuu has only been taken off the site temporarily.

http://www.tokyograph.com/news/id-2495

But, then again whole Visee site is down.

And yeah, maybe Kuu getting into this much crap over something so simple seems stupid to us, but you have to respect the Japanese view on things. To them, this is a very important subject. It differs from country to country.

Well, thats my take, anyway.

CHE.R.RY 6th February 2008 01:27 AM

^ I was confused about whether she was dropped completely or just suspended. Thanx for clearing that up.

truehappiness 6th February 2008 01:46 AM

BoA apparently took her place on Visee. :/

Oh, and BoA was dropped from Fasio in late 2007.

Kikaru 6th February 2008 01:59 AM

Okay, I can see that compared to Otsuka Ai Ayu can look fake, but compared to Koda Kumi, I think as far as the makeup-airbrushing fakeness goes, IMO it's about the same level. (unless you count in those uber brushed panasonic commercials)

There is no ideal model. Even the supermodels are not ideal. But I dunno, I think Visee type makeup actually doesn't suit her that well (I really think they're better for people with paler complex).

Hitomi Shimatani would be a gorgeous model. Too bad Avex doesn't give her the big promotions.

MemorialAddress 6th February 2008 02:14 AM

Um how rude this thread first post is.
Very.
Rude.
She was not kicked off, thank lord! :D :heart

zeroshin888 6th February 2008 05:12 AM

Wait... why did Avex stop promoting KINGDOM?

Zeke. 6th February 2008 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327049)
Kuu is so much prettier than Ayu >W<
Kuu is such a better makeup model.

So here starts the war... We all know how this is gonna end - LOCKED -
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1327052)
That's a subjective thing. Personally I think Kumi has her hit and miss days while Ayu constantly looks like a true diva.

:yes

Let's see - go back and look at Ayu's modeling days and even younger than that - she was always cute and as she got older she got sexier for sure. Now look at Ku's audition tapes for MoMusu... Now you tell me who is truly gorgeous and who isn't made up (they both are made up but Ku requires more effort)

Anyways, such a SCANDAL!

taskinillusion 6th February 2008 06:12 AM

This crap warrented its own thread? *cough*troll*cough*

There's plenty about this going on in the Kumi thread already.

Kodayumi 6th February 2008 07:17 AM

Uh, is this true?

ayu_fan929 6th February 2008 08:07 AM

No, she hasn't been "fired" from Visee.

Raleigh 6th February 2008 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milky_way (Post 1327699)
^ Well, that's mature :rolleyes

Same feelings :rolleyes

ayu_ready? 6th February 2008 12:09 PM

to be honest, I don't find Kumi that attractive
even though I'm her fan, I don't like hr face features (eyes & nose) only the dimples maybe
and her legs aren't good...well, Ayumi's too actually...:P

besides, all KOSE photoshoots overphotoshoped, quite professionaly, ye-a, but though...

I find Ayumi beaut so she's better fpr make up ads

hope KUmi will 'restore' asap
better be careful next time :yes

bondingo 6th February 2008 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MemorialAddress08 (Post 1327408)
Um how rude this thread first post is.
Very.
Rude.
She was not kicked off, thank lord! :D :heart

Agreed, and I'm also glad she wasn't kicked off. I just love it when people create threads about something that isn't even true, then bask in the misfortune of someone else that many people adore.

ALPHY 6th February 2008 12:21 PM

OUCH.

That's all I can say.

TITANIC 6th February 2008 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrepaul (Post 1327065)
Honestly ayu is too old.

but its cute better than kuu :D

hmm i dunno i must sad or happy with this news

Luv ~Venus~ 6th February 2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrepaul (Post 1327065)
Honestly ayu is too old.

How is 29 old??? :dead2

Anyway....

I have to agree with ayu_ready. Kuu doesn't have an "attractive" face. Honestly, I don't even know how most of the guys on her can call her sexy or hot or whatever. In many ways, Kuu looks like Ayu....sorry to say. Both Ayu and Kuu can't be consider "cute" without make-up on. They wear too much make-up and they look fugly without it on. I do like some of the Visee pics/CMs though.

The only person I have in mind that fits the Visee image is BoA. She has very charming natural look. She doen't wear too much make-up and in most of her pics, she wears little make-up. Although Hitomi Shimatani is very gorgeous and fit the Visee image as well, I doubt she can get a contract with them because of her popularity.

[kokoro♥] 6th February 2008 02:07 PM

^ I think BoA is ugly -w-;; Well, I've seen uglier, but compared to Kuu or Ayu, she is second rate.

panda♥ 6th February 2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327056)
Matter of opinion.
0.0 I mean, I love Ayu and all, But Kuu is special to me XD
I think they are both beautiful, but Ayu looks so fake its crazy.




i think koda has always looked fake. :rolleyes

i only see ayu as fake when she's photoshopped in ads.

ayu_fan929 6th February 2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1327877)
How is 29 old??? :dead2

Well, we're talking about Japanese standards here.

ayu_ready? 6th February 2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1327877)
How is 29 old??? :dead2

Anyway....

I have to agree with ayu_ready. Kuu doesn't have an "attractive" face. Honestly, I don't even know how most of the guys on her can call her sexy or hot or whatever. In many ways, Kuu looks like Ayu....sorry to say. Both Ayu and Kuu can't be consider "cute" without make-up on. They wear too much make-up and they look fugly without it on. I do like some of the Visee pics/CMs though.

The only person I have in mind that fits the Visee image is BoA. She has very charming natural look. She doen't wear too much make-up and in most of her pics, she wears little make-up. Although Hitomi Shimatani is very gorgeous and fit the Visee image as well, I doubt she can get a contract with them because of her popularity.

;) :D

Hitomi is beaut indeed. very. :yes

Kikaru 6th February 2008 06:00 PM

Seriously, Hitomi Shimatani would be wonderful if she was to advertise, or maybe even Olivia...but alas, their popularity probably isn't enough to get an endorsement.

And yes, Kuu's legs aren't her best attributes either...I mean, they're not deformed or anything, but I wouldn't pick her for a Venus model or anything...

ayu_ready? 6th February 2008 07:20 PM

well they are not deformed they have such...I dunno howto express
just if she stands they have a round shape....well many japanese tend to have such legs so I guess they are considered beaut...?

Ayumiko 6th February 2008 08:08 PM

I guess they're trying to say even if you don't have nice skinny legs, you can still use their products...XD

Raleigh 6th February 2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 1327808)
Agreed, and I'm also glad she wasn't kicked off. I just love it when people create threads about something that isn't even true, then bask in the misfortune of someone else that many people adore.

Yeah I really think it's really pitiful when people bask into the misfortune of some artist. It's like these people can only gain pleasure from such misfortunes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koda♥ (Post 1327883)
^ I think BoA is ugly -w-;; Well, I've seen uglier, but compared to Kuu or Ayu, she is second rate.

Wow that's a first... I think BoA has really beautiful facial features. Like everything is perfectly aligned and sized and she has a beautiful facial expression.

austin. ♥ 6th February 2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1328099)
Wow that's a first... I think BoA has really beautiful facial features. Like everything is perfectly aligned and sized and she has a beautiful facial expression.

Same here! She even looks really cute on her "off days" and behind the scenes and stuff.

:]

Rurutia 6th February 2008 08:50 PM

wow...I don't like Kuu...but this is too much.....seriously I didn't find her comment offending at ALL.....i mean come on..big deal...sheesh....and surprisingly I actually enjoyed Kingdom....man.....I never thought I'd say this..but I feel bad for Kuu

ImpactBreaker 6th February 2008 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk (Post 1328099)


Wow that's a first... I think BoA has really beautiful facial features. Like everything is perfectly aligned and sized and she has a beautiful facial expression.

Exactly, i mean..if she is "ugly" and I were a girl, man do I wish to look ugly like that.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 6th February 2008 09:38 PM

BoA's really beautiful imo. I would love to have her features too XD!

ayu_ready? 6th February 2008 09:58 PM

BoA has a pleasant face
I don't consider her a beauty, but she has a pleasant beaut face with cute dimples and nice skin and besides she's very charming and cute by nature
that's what makes her attractive
but her face features are very good as well

Halla 6th February 2008 10:05 PM

BoA is pretty, but I think her look is very girl-next-door & sorta typical. there's just nothing really special about her.

especially when there are just really gorgeous j-pop singers around, people like Yu Yamada. I didn't list her earlier because she's not on Avex.

ImpactBreaker 6th February 2008 10:13 PM

Well, she's definitely far from being ugly though.

Huaka 6th February 2008 10:13 PM

Hmm, I don't really think BoA is extraordinarily pretty, she has very typical Korean features, and I've seen many girls around here that resemble her quite a bit. Kuu isn't someone I would call, "pretty" she seems to have more of that "hot" aura than pretty, although with the right makeup and facial expression she would be. Ayu is more of the pretty person to me as she has more distinctive features than the other two, and her face isn't that easy to replicate.

DeepRiver 6th February 2008 10:54 PM

I think the should take Hikki, she has a absolutely perfect face and skin!

mi|kshake 6th February 2008 11:54 PM

Even though I'm not much of a fan anymore - feel kinda sorry for Kumi. How did this thing get so big? Insane!

mi|kshake~

norain 7th February 2008 12:05 AM

This has totally been

A) Blown out of proportion
B) Blown way out of proportion
C) Seriously blown way out of proportion

Koda just said what was on her mind, so yeah...

I do agree though, "SHE" was not the one who stopped promotion, (though I stopped reading after page 2 because I wanted to hypothesize and then be proven wrong later because I'm weird like that) I firmly believe Avex did and Koda said that to tell her fans in a modest way that she doesn't want to promote. It could be a combination...avex not wanting to promote and koda not wanting to do it anymore...or it could just be koda doesn't want to be asked about "Hey about what you said" on talk shows, so she'll let it simmer down for now.

Anyway, if anything, I'm pretty sure we'll theorize forever...sad thing really.

P.S. all the news stations talking about koda's statement is most likely gonna say "her company recently ceased promotion on her recent album" aka...free promotion.

Alessia_Tateno 7th February 2008 03:21 AM

Koda has been kicked out from Kirin and Honda too. And a new Venus Gilette commercial was stopped from filming.

But Ayu has less than 0% possibility to get Visee contract again and so it is for all the other Visee Models of the past (Namie Amuro, Beni Arashiro etc.) they need to find a new model soon...

And the model won't be BoA too because she was already Kose model for another product ^^ and she is beautiful *_*

And yeah Hitomi Shimatani would be a wonderful Visee model *_*

truehappiness 7th February 2008 03:41 AM

Is there some unwritten rule about being in CMs or something?

I'm sure Ayu could come back if Kose just asked :|

Rickumi 7th February 2008 03:53 AM

I messed up with my post, ....wahetevr.
Stupid commento the author made....very very sad.


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