Analysis/interpretation of Mirrorcle World PV
 

Idealist did a very nice analysis of the Mirrorcle World PV, but it was almost lost in the big "Thoughts on Mirrorcle World PV" thread. So for those who didn't bother looking through the thread, here it is reposted. Would be a shame to miss it.



Here is my analysis of the Mirrorcle World PV--

I don't think it's random at all. This is a very deep video. The song's lyrics are also important for understanding its meaning. All of the elements are chosen specifically to talk about Ayu's feelings and thoughts about the future. Not just her own personal future, but the future of mankind. Once you look at the video from the perspective of representing Ayu's internal discussion about the technological singularity, it all makes sense.

Briefly, there is a theory that our technology and ability to share information is increasing at an exponential rate; our technology allows us to create more advanced technology, which allows us to create even more advanced technology, etc., and in the not too distant future we will inevitably reach a point where the speed at which we gain new knowledge becomes nearly infinite and we transcend our bodies. That is the technological singularity.

Elements of this concept have been explored in Japanese pop culture before, for example in the anime series Ghost in the Shell and Neon Genesis Evangelion. In the west, one major example of pop culture touching on the singularity is The Matrix, which Ayu intentionally references with a couple aspects of the video.

Mirrorcle World starts out depicting a number of men who are direct references to the "agents" of The Matrix. This is important as it helps to explain the context of the video. These are beings of technology, who record information, and not in the way that human beings have had for most of our history. The seek to control information.

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We see a very quick shot of Ayu in lingerie, but aren't given a context for this yet, but it does come later. This is the first of Ayu's five aspects in this video.

Next, we hear a modem dialing in. This is very important, because it tells us that what we are seeing in the video is not the real world; it is, instead, a virtual, electronic world, a "Mirrorcle World", a marvelous echo of the real thing. We are shown an aspect of Ayu, which likely represents her adventurousness in wanting to explore this new world of possibilities; she makes simple, factual statements, and asks simple questions, like so:

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These lines express her wonder at the world; note also the emphasis on the "future".

These lines express what she has heard from other people. These lines are in reference to fears people have about the singularity; is it the beginning for mankind, or the end? There is a choice between giving up our physical bodies, or hanging on to them. Ayu is asked if she is "shrugging" it off because she is calm about it, or because she despairs about it.

Next we see that first aspect of Ayu, finally given context.

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Here we have a representation of Ayu's body, or more specifically, of Ayu thinking about her body. Note the emphasis on her physical sexual appeal, and also the fact that the view of Ayu is in a mirror. She is thinking about her physical body, which she would have to give up if she simply became her disembodied consciousness.

Next we are introduced to a third Ayu aspect, which is her analytical mind.

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Our view of this aspect is entirely on her head, all of the expression she conveys are with facial body language and hand gestures involving her head. She asks deeper, more cautious questions.

She expresses concern about whether people can cope with the era of the singularity.

We're shown another aspect of Ayu:

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Her sudden appearance in a red dress may seem random, but it is likely a reference to "the woman in the red dress" from The Matrix. She is the Ayu that asks questions about what to do; the Ayu of choice and decision.

Here is the crux of the entire issue, and once I thought about this line in context with the rest of the song and the video, everything finally made sense. This is exactly the question that one must ask themselves when thinking about the possibility of the singularity.

Basically, if she decides to leave her body, should she just pretend she can still "see" it, that it still exists; or is the body really significant anyway? Is she her body, or is she more than her body?

She wonders if she should fight against the inevitable march of progress towards the singularity or not. She doesn't want to just "run away" from the question, and from the future, she wants to be an active participant in it and not a victim of fate.

Now we have her dropping a handkerchief, which is picked up by the "agents"; one concern about the singularity is that it will fundamentally strip us of our privacy due to the fact that all of humanity's knowledge will be shared instantaneously. Already in the present we see the ease with which personal information is accessed online.

The "agents" represent those malignant forces that would take personal information and use it to control others. They search for Ayu-choice, because they do not want her to be free to make the choice to realize her potential; with the singularity, all information will become free from their grasp. Ayu-choice is with doves. This is more difficult to get a definite interpretation of, but it may be representative of Ayu being "at peace" and not feeling threatened by the "agents".

Ayu-mind appears again, and talks about her thoughts.

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[quote]In this world, we have to slow down
because we don't know everything. [/url]

She is thinking about the world we are in now, at the present, before the singularity occurs. We don't know everything, so, our pace is limited.

"That way" doesn't refer to her previous statement; it refers to the singularity. Ayu is thinking that it will clear the path for all people to reach their full potential.

Ayu-mind has reached a conclusion, and Ayu-adventurousness decides to act on it:

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She "shatters" the mirror (Ayu-body, if you recall, was located in a mirror), because she has decided to embrace the singularity. We see Ayu-choice rejoice, and Ayu-body is in distress, mourning the loss of her relevance; she is not so attractive now.

The choice isn't without consequences--we are introduced to the final aspect of Ayu, her future, where she must contend with the negative forces of this brave new world.

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They trap her in the phone booth. The phone booth symbolizes traditional means of communication, as we have now; the agents trap her, not wanting to give her freedom. Ayu-future echoes her earlier lines in the song, this time the sentiments of those malicious agents, who stand to gain by Ayu-future giving up and remaining in their control. They tell her just to continue on as she is, in their control.

But Ayu is saved from this fate.

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She is not alone in this Mirrorcle World, and allies arrive to assist her, and shine a light on the misdeeds of those exploiting her vulnerability. She gives one last glance back to the phone booth, her past and our present, before getting in the car with her friends, driving off into the mists of the future.

Ayu-mind wonders:

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Is it because she's so strong personally that she can face the future without suffering? Or...is it because of those others alongside her, who lend her their strength, as all people join together?

We hear a final tinkle of a connection signing off as the video ends.

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Ultimately it is a very optimistic view of the future, and one that I strongly identify with. Oh, and why shoot the video in Paris? What better location for a fantastic place which Ayu is foreign to? As the virtual Mirrorcle World is to the physical world, so is Paris to Tokyo for Ayu.


-- by Idealist

This is one amazing analysis! O.O To think, I really thought that this video was uberly random XD
Interesting, this makes me look at the PV and the song in another perspective. Thank you for taking your time to make another thread for this awesome analysis (:

You're welcome, it really deserved it's own thread. :yes

That's one incredible analysis. I knew there was something deeper to this PV but I couldn't come up with anything. Amazing job!

indeed! :yes

and thanks again Idealist!

hah I love reading interpretations, most times when I watch Ayu's pvs I don't even think about what its about at all. I don't even try to interprete it or even think about doing it, but when I read everybody else's views..I feel just WOAH O___O I so wouldn't have seen that coming. Great analysis from Idealist, its good there screen caps and stuff so we have a better image of what's being said.

you did amazing analysist..but may i know the main point of the video?

wasnt this wad i suggested..haha..
THANKS FOR THIS!

Thanks for putting it in a new thread!

Great analysis. So deep XD!

I knew there had to be something else besides the surface... I truly thank Idealist for such an amazing analysis. If I could do this, man I would be getting an A+++++ in AP English. ahaha.

That analysis made the PV just fall into place, and EVERYTHING made sense. :)

really..really great analysis

all I can say's woah . What an extremely detailed analysis of the video .

thanks for the analysis..

it makes the PV much better now~

U are the man !!!
so cool U
I know this Pv may be confusing but if I rethink it's not that bad
ayu's always wonderful

Yeah, idealist's interpretation is brilliant! Congratulations.

I've also made one, my own, but I'm not sure if ppl will bother to read it. It is not anywhere as deep as idealist's and probably a little silly. It has a different point of view though. Since it does need the images, I had to put all written texts in a huge image file you can see attached here.

I still need to know the deep meaning behind that car's tag "31 CRY 91" or whatever it was. XD ><

^maybe it has to do with her lasst conclusion: "is it because I became strong that I can be without tears?" The CRY is hidden between the sequence of numbers on the car sign, and could only be noticed by someone with a sharper eye, like you.

^After I had read Idealist's interpretation I thought it would be something like she actually can not be without tears, at least not in the "Mirrorcle World" but when she's in the car she's heading back to the real place where she's allowed and can cry... Or something like that. I'm not too good solving these kinds of things.

I was scared that the interpretation would just go over some heads, but most of you seem to understand and enjoy it, so that's great! Idealist is kind of a lurker here, a little shy, but I convinced him to post this and he is really glad you all like it. ;)

I like your interpretation too, ImpactBreaker. :thumbsup
It is different but still makes you think... and that's precisely the point. That this video isn't just random nonsense and it really does have a meaning.

the analysis was great!!
thx for it~
the PV seems much better

I dont believe ayu will make something so random...totally meaningless...she has been at it for 10 years...

Ayu will NEVER EVER do anything for no reason! I knew there must be something about the hanky dropping off from her red dress... Lol.

Thanks for making this PV deeper than its superficial outer appearance!

Amazing. This makes me so sad that I can't buy the CD+DVD version because through this analysis I realized that I love this PV...

We have a genius on our hands, 5 stars Idealist! It was brilliant!

I love your interpretation of the pv!! I would have never thought of something as good and detailed! ^^

Amazing!I really don't only understand the PV,but the song itself too.

lol, can you say "great minds think alike"? i was thinking about doing a thread like this, but you beat me to it! and did a way better job than i ever would! i had some differences in my interpretation, but i had something similar. your wording is fantastic! :yes good job!

Honestly.......I don't think there is anything to analyze in this PV. Usually I'm the first one on board for an Ayu PV analysis, but I think in this case people are just trying to find something to analyze in order to make the PV better. IMO, analyzing this PV is as pointless as trying to analyze the Blue Bird or Born to Be PVs.....sorry. Sometimes I think we have a tendency to over analyze things here in the Ayu world. :)

edit: well, admittedly at least it has more of a plot than Blue Bird and Born to Be. :)

yeah, I'm kinda with sunshine slayer.

although ayu will have some ideas and message and meaning behind it all, I don;t think we'll be able to agree on what it is, and even if we did, doesn't mean we'd be right!

To be honest, I;m more inclined to thnk her 10th anniversary single will have more to do with her life, her fame, growing up, getting older, etc. and not some obscure "technological singularity". Even if it does talk about technology advancing, doesn;t necessarily have to be referring to this ulitmate singularity. just basic average technological advancement, and the digital age.

I need to think about it more before I decide what I think she's trying to say...

but unless she gives the answers, we can only guess.

thanks for your efforts though guys.

[EDIT]

I'm sure most of you noticed....the reference to being strong not to cry:

from A Song For XX

thanks for posting this interpretation. although it doesnt label that this is the true meaning behind the PV, i think this analysis will help people enjoy the PV better and start to think more abstractly

Woah nice explanation!

er....no, sorry.

don't buy that "singularity" idea at all. I think you're taking the idea too far.

ok...first of all...no matter what the PV implies or whatever, there technically is no such thing as a "random" video. why do people keep saying that constantly?? it's not like they just say "okay...now jump in from of the camera and whatever happens, happens. and when you go to change into a new outfit, just grab something randomly from the rack." Everything is planned out and done for a reason. just bc we dont always understand those reasons, does not in any way make it random.

Are you sure you're not looking too much into this video? :| It's kind of odd to me that Ayumi decided one day to make a PV that tackles the subject of singularity. I mean, are we, the world, really heading into that? Sorry if I come off arrogant or whatever, I like your analysis, it's great and all, really in-depth, but is Ayumi really capable of such a thing? Well if she is then... o________o;
It's just really puzzling to me. x_x

I really don't see anything wrong with speculation. Yes, it's a pretty deep concept, and yes, it's also likely Ayu didn't just decide to form her video around such a concept. Writing an interpretation of how one may possibly perceive the PV is not going "too far".

I think with this video, some see it as something that isn't worthy of interpretation, which is fine... opinions are opinions.
Whether it was Ayu's intention to touch on this or not, I know that this analysis really made me enjoy the PV more and it made more sense. Evidently, many share my feelings. And, basically everything in this world is open to interpretation. :)

Trueeee.

Basically I think that there is a story behind this PV, but I'm not sure if it's about singularity.

Wow! Nice interpretation you had there, Idealist.
Thanks for sharing us! :-)

The last screenshots reveal the car's number plate.

13 CRY MIR.

Interesting.

^ I'm very curious as to what this encodes, aside from the obvious "MIR". Or maybe it's not as obvious as it seems!? =O

PV starts to get more understandable after reading your analysis..

In 2013, the Earth will be crying. :O

i always think only ayu will know the meaning behind the pvs. soo..

firstly, get your eyes tested....the number plate on the car is not "31 CRY MIR"

In the sequence where it drives directly away (just after ayu gets in) you can clearly see the number:

"13 CRY 91"

and love appears, you missed my point. I never said you shouldn't interpret teh pvs, I do so myself, there are loads of meanings to be found. when I said "taking it too far" I was talking abou this insistence that ayu is talking about a singularity. where as I can see that whilst she is talkign abou ttechnology, it is a more general comment on technological progress, and not specifically regarding a singularity. (whihc i bet is a concept she's never heard of, and even if she has, still doesn't mean, and there is no reason why it would mean, that she is talking about the singularity in this pv.)

and just cos the line says

"did you imagine such a future", doesn't mean she's showing us a representation of the future. it could quite easily mean, and much more likely does, that many years ago (or whenever) did they imagine then that the future (meaning now) would be like this.

I still you are reading too much in to this future/technology theme. i'm not saying there's no meaning there, quite the opposite, I'm just saying the meaning that is there is not as extreme as you think.

Great interpretation. I really love the song and pv *o*

But did someone notice that around 1.25 in the video Ayu suddenly wears different shoes than b4?
I wonder if this has a meaning....

And when was there any insistence that this was real or official? 'Cause if there was, I missed it. :shrug
Idealist simply posted his interpretation to the thoughts thread. Nowhere did he claim it was the actual meaning of the video. Since everyone seemed to respond to it well, other initiates decided to edit it into the first post of that thread and decided to create this one. So, he has done nothing to take anything too far. He never forced this onto anyone, it was reposted because a lot of people said it helped them enjoy the video. It's just someone's personal in-depth look at something they wanted to share, no insistences anywhere whatsoever.

I can also see what you're getting at jon, and that's fine. You're absolutely free to post your own interpretation and I'm sure others would agree with you as well.

^Yea, it's technically impossible to have a wrong interpretation. Idealist's analysis isn't just random thoughts either, it's very well backed up by use of lyrics and visual elements from the PV (I sound like my teacher)

Great analysis, but I still think the PV fails at showing whatever it's supposed to show.

whoa.....just whoa. !!!

That was incredible. Great job!! I'm really starting to love the PV now and that definitely helped!

Thank you for putting this in it's own thread, it definitely deserves it. :D Once again, great job Idealist! :yes

wow, i think someone has a bit TOO much time on their hands. it's a PV (a crappy one at that), not a oscar winning movie.

btw guys. i THINK, and idk if i'm sure here, and someone correct me, BUT SHE IS JUST RUNNING AROUND FRANCE.

very deep, detailed, awesome interpretations!!!
thanks alots!! it made me understand more about the PV and
the messages that Ayu wants to convey!

hmmm.. though i thought that Idealist's interpretation of the PV is very well done.. but i somehow not really sure that ayu really HAS the idea of talking about technology and such.. singularity and such..in her lyrics.. about the human's future yes, but not specifically about technology that may come to human's future..

after reading the translation of the lyric for couple of time.. i kinda think that Mirrorcle World is just simply about herself, about her artist life.

wow.. you did well in analysing the pv, Idealist!
Enjoyed what I read. hahaz.

I know Ayu's pvs certainly have deep meaning to it. but somehow I just can't seem to think what is it about and made them link together.

What you done is great. It flows well like a story. =)

OMG! WOAH!OçO Thanks for the great analysis!*_* Now it's all clear!*O*

love appears. omg, please, you have to understand what I mean when I say "too far".

maybe americans don't use it in this way, maybe english isn't your native language, maybe you're not very old or well read. I don't know. but for you to continually misconstrue and misunderstand what I mean when I say "too far" is getting incredibly frustrating.

I don't think I can expain any more than my attempt earlier. just know, I am not being critical, or agressive, or rude, or anything negative. you don't need to defend him, there was no attack.

@ idealist; i do like your interpretation, and I do respect it. just not sure I can agree with it totally just yet. I need to have another look at the lyrics etc. (not much time til now). I know my opinion is irrelevent, but I'm sure you'd enjoy some friendly discussion? :)

Okay. *deep breath*
I really do not want to start a feud here. But...

It is fair enough if I took your "too far" statement too seriously. You seemed to react as if his analysis were somehow a bad thing, and I disagreed. I can admit there may be a bias here, because Idealist is my boyfriend. So I apologize if I did overreact. His post may have been extensive but I'm of the belief that there shouldn't be any boundaries when it comes to interpretation of any form of art, which is what this is.

Perhaps you don't realize this from your own perspective, but you have been rather insulting and impolite in this thread. Telling someone to "get their eyes tested" for one, isn't rude? Implying that I'm not "old", or well-read, or that english isn't my first language? What? I'm sorry but it is quite rude to assume and say those things based on what I've posted in this thread.

I really don't want hostility here. Opinions are opinions... and misunderstandings happen. And again you may not realize you're doing it, but please try not to throw around insults in the process of trying to explain yourself. I respect your opinion, I'm sorry if I misunderstood, there is no need for this.

the song sounded great and i think the pv ruined it completely...

as long as the song is good, the pv doesn't really matters imo...

and ppl here loved to misunderstood/misinterpret other ppl's comments/opinions ...*sigh*

Fantastic analysis, Idealist! I really love how deep everything is. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not...if Ayu were to read this, she would be glad that her PV could carry such a message...

i know its offtopic but are u referring to those past situations when people got angry at what you wrote?

You've got the point here. I think PVs and music and art in general are meant to be so that the viewer can see something that gives a reason to think about whatever she/he feels is the meaning behind it etc.. So for god's sake people stop fighting what Ayu meant or did she mean anything at all with this and everything else and think if there could be something you could realize/feel in your own lifes with her music and so on. :rolleyes (I'm not sure if I made any sense here :laugh english tends to be difficult)

It seems that you have thought through this alot... Thank you for this!

no. i meant the previous posts in this thread ^_^;

Is there such a thing as "wrong interpretation"?

In my opinion, depending on the content of the artistic material, there may be. It's mostly obvious for those kind that are more concrete and objective, such as you reading a book and it says a certain character was murdered and buried; there's no way someone could interpret it like "oh but that character is alive (in the real meaning of it)". That would be a wrong interpretation.
However, in the case of ayu, her lyrics and sometimes PVs, carry rather vague ideas. ayu never seems to tie a definite conclusion to most of her lyrics and videos, so there's plenty room for interpretation. Since she makes everything quite vaguely/incomplete, a place for a "wrong interpretation' or a "stretch" gets lost, because nothing is tied to a definite conclusion. I hope I made sense here.

Wow man!! That is deep!! The PV seems really different to me now...

story for you:

another singer releases a song with fairly deep and profound lyrics, and the artist's message and the songs meaning puzzled the fans, so they debated at great length on the official forum. There was much discussion and various people were convinced that their interpetation was THE right one. Eventually, the artist posted (as it was the official forum he visited it often and posted occasionally, and was particularly interested to see what his fans thought of his new songs). He said, "right, sorry, I can't lurk here any longer, I've got to leap in and tell you how completely WRONG you are, what this song is about is this:..."

The artist is the only person who truly knows the message and meaning, as it is their creation, their idea. and any other interpretations are wrong. I'm not saying idealist's is wrong, not at all, I think he may be very close to ayu's true intended meaning. unfortunately for us, ayu will probably not give away her true meaning, and so we can only try to guess. but the point of this post is to argue that interpretations can be wrong.

The only time I can see where ,pre than one interpretation can be right, is if there was no meaning decided upon in the first instance, and they just cobbled together a lot of random, seemingly meaningful imagery, without any thought or design. I think you'll agree ayu is not the kind of person to do this. which means there are definitely wrong interpretations of this PV and Song.

(to repeat though, before love appears or whoever completely misunderstands me again, I am not saying Idealist's interpretation is wrong, in fact I think it may be very close. but that doesn't mean that it is right, evenif we all think it's right, ayu might read it and say "er...no.")

We'll probably never know.

But I'm happy to try to guess.

It's their creation and their idea, but once they expose it to public, they can't force people to see it their way. That's one of the things about art. You saying that, almost sounds as if ayu hates a certain song she made, everybody will have to hate it, because she is the creator and she hates it, and the only reaction people can have to it is hate, not love, which is nonsense (in fact she doesn't like Endless sorrow, while many of her fans do). Who knows if Leonardo made Monalisa in order to have the dubious smile? Maybe he painted her just to paaint some weird woman without caring about the smile , but then other people noticed it and nowadays the painting is appreaciated because of that dubious smile. What if he was revived and said "gosh, I didn't really even attempt to do a dubious smile in this painting". Would the dubious smile be taken away? That's the great thing about art. It's somebody's creation? yes, but it can be appreaciated in different ways by different people, and as long as it is the artists call to have its work exposed to public, the public can react to that piece of work the way they want, not the way the artist wants. If the artist doesn't put any bounds or any clear direction as to where they want their work to follow, they should expect anything from it. That's ayu cases. Her lyrics are vague and unclear, which leaves the person reading them to take their own conclusions. ayu probably knows what she wanted to mean, but since she doesn't tell us, we are left to wonder that by ourselves.

for me,this PV sucks.

er...no.

whether people like or dislike a piece of work and whether the artist likes or dislikes the same piece of work has got NOTHING to do with the message the artist intended to get across.

their intended message, if they had one, is irrefutable. that is what the song, or poem, or novel, or painting was supposed to convey, the very purpose of its creation. if other people interpret it a different way, then it is a failure, either on the part of the artist to convey their message, or the part of the audience on failing to perceive the true message.

people might find other meanings, but just because they can be found, doesn;t mean they are right. indeed, if you found one of these "alternative" meanings, you have ultimately missed the artist's message and therefore not grasped the meaning of the piece.

well, there's a interesting brazillian book called "Dom Casmurro". This book taslks about a guy who gets in love with a girl who has "dissimulative eyes" called Capitu. Making the story short, the whole book focus on her dissimulative eyes, trying to imply she wasn't exactly a very trustable person. In a part of the book, he starts to speculate that she's probably cheating him with one of his best friends. Lost in speculations, he ends up assuming she truly cheated him after she gets pregnant and the child "resembles" a bit of his friend, but she promptly denies it. They break the relationship and their life turn into misery, but they never come back again. End of the book. The great mistery of the book is: did Capitu truly cheat on him or not? There's no REAL evidence that makes you assume if she did or not, even though the book tries to work on the disimulative aspect of Capitu's personality (the book is old, and no blood or paternity tests were available at that time). Maybe her dissimulated eyes and the fact their son looked a little like the other guy + a few other things that happen, make it likely that she cheated? But hey, what if everything was just things created on his mind because of his jealousy and she truly didn't? The book leaves you with that question. Is it wrong to think she did? Is it wrong to think she didn't? Is it wrong to be undecided? Obviously not. The writer of the book never left any notes giving any answer. Maybe he had an opinion about it, but since he didn't make it public, people are left to wonder what they want, and there's no failure about it. Maybe if he had tied an answer to it, the book would have lost its value as an artistic piece. Whoever read the book can have the feeling they want, and that's where art truly exceeds the simple concept of only being the "creation of an artist". If there's just the artist and the art, but nobody to appreciate it, the art does not exist.

Something simillar happensd in Agatha Christie's Murder on the Orient Express. Who was the murderer after all? Even though there's such a thing as an alternate ending telling somebody was the real murder, it is nothing but an example, and the book leaves you free to decide who actually did the murder. There's no failure in the book, in the person who wrote it or those reading it.

agreed, because it was their intention to not reveal the "answer".

this links back to my previous post: (perhaps you missed it?)
from here there are two possibilities...

1# There is an answer.
The artist "knew" the answer, (it's their story, their characters, they can decide what the "answer" is if they want to), even if they don't reveal the answer in the book, the answer exists and it is the only true answer.

2# There is NO answer.
The artist never decided on an answer, they left it unanswered purposely, and as such there is no correct answer. only endless speculation.

however, you're talking about a "did she/didn't she?" kind of unanswered question. or a "whodunnit?" unanswered question. Which is still very differnet to determining what ayu's lyrics mean in mirrorcle world.

are you saying you think that mirrorcle world is a #2 kind of problem?
that the meaning of mirrorcle world is undecided by the artist? do you think ayu didn't actually decide on a meaning, and left it completely open?

I personally think that the question of mirrorcle world's meaning is a #1 kind of problem. Ayu knows what she wants to say, we don't, we can only guess until she gives us "the answer".

but as long as their is an "answer", there will be many many wrong ones.

Well, I understand your point, though I probably have a different point of view. If ayu has the answer, but she has chosen not to give us, it is not wrong for us to come up with our own conclusions, even though the creation is hers. While ayu probably has made it with a #1 intent, the fact her message is so unclear and vague, leaving it open to different speculations (maybe this is where you mentioned the failure point, I dunno), and she has chosen not to give any explanation for it, to me it ends up fallen to a #2 type. You'll probably disagree but that's how I see it.

Also, what if there is a #3: the artist have their answer but don't give it, and want people to come up with their own conclusions, the way they want, meaning the others wouldn't be wrong either? How to make a difference from #1? It would be impossible, so to me artists who chose to hide the answer should be accepting to any kind of conclusuion made out of it.

the main issue about being a #1 or #2 is whether the "answer" exists or not.

I never said it was wrong to speculate! No! it is fun to speculate! but me must accept that our interpretations may be incorrect if there is an "answer", whether we ever know that answer or not. (obviously, if we knew the answer we would not need to speculate or interpret)

as long as there is an answer, it will be a #1,
if there is no answer, and there never was, then it'd be #2

Ayu or whoever might make the lyrics or meaning vague and obscure to try to make the "answer" more illusive, but if the answer exists, then it's still #1.

Ayu always said she writes for herself....maybe the illusiveness is to hide the true meaning.

she is very clever.

^Yeah, you make a lot of sense. I have to agree on that.

I'm glad we're agreeing!

been nice talking with you :)

But Idealist never claimed that his analysis was THE right one. It's just how he saw it. It's a nice read. Nothing more to it.

so he claimed it was the wrong one did he?

what are you on about. read our discussion.

hmm maybe we're being a little nitpicky about concepts here. imo, Idealist posted what he believes the PV truly conveys. He doesn't force people to believe he's right though. It's up to anyone who reads it to agree or disagree, and even more than that, to appreciate it or not, either agreeing or disagreeing.

well said impactbreaker. let's hope everyone else understands this from now on.

No, like you said, he speculated. He never said "this is for sure what ayu wanted to say". You seem to insist that he said "THIS IS THE WAY AYU WANTED US TO SEE IT" so you can prove him wrong.

This is all going to a pointless discussion imo :laugh Will someone other than Love Appears even bother to read my interpretation on the PV? ahah I know it's **** but....I tried :( LOL (quickly tries a failed atytempt on getting the thread to its original point)

@zoomzoom

OMG.

read through the thread again.
I know it's his opinion, he knows it's his opinion, everybody knows it's his opinion.

I never said he was wrong (read my posts), I never tried to prove him wrong. I never insisted he claimed that he was right.

What are you going on about.
why are you making issues where there are none??

impact breaker...where was your interpretation? I'd be interested to read it... :)

c'mon guys, let's just put an end here and go back on topic with the thread? It's about discussing Mirrorcle World's PV interpretation, not who was born first: the eeg or the chicken :rolleyes


Post #17 on this thread:

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...0&postcount=17

hmmm....it's an interesting interpretation, but i'm not sure i agree with it :) But whatever, we all have our thoughts and opinions. Ayu wants us to think about her works and take things from it. I just wish not everyone would read one interpretation and automatically take it forever XP

@impactbreaker

yeah, I had seen that one, why'd you think only love appears had bothered to read it?

perhaps I should have said something!

but yeah, it's quite good,

still wish ayu would giv eus a hint or something...perhaps in an interview....?

Yeah, it would be cool, but she rarely explain her songs, much less her PVs:shakehead....well, all we can do is hope (even though the list is growing and growing).

IB thanks for your interpretation as well! I think both interpretations go well together.

i like your interpretation even better....
because this song this PV is really just talking about ayu herself...
but i would like to add that, it's not about her past when she was about to go debut.. but more to the current situation that she must have faced..
more specifically, after her deaf issue, on the lyric there she asked question to herself, whether she ever thought of this kind of future, etc etc..then people, the medias or even us the fans, keep on asking her the questions that seem pushing her to the edge..finally she has made her decision to move on.

Haha, just wanted you to know I read your interpretation in post #17 while going through the interesting thread. It's good, don't worry, it's not **** :P It's similar to Idealist's, actually. Both are very good, just one goes deeper than the other's.

I, too, really wish Ayu would sometimes tell us the meanings of her songs...
My favorite band, Thursday, always has very meaningful lyrics with substance in them, and the lead singer, Geoff, often explains those meanings in live shows before or inbetween playing, and often in interviews as well. Ayu needs to do more interviews where she talks about them. :)

I KNEW IT SHE REALLY IS A ROBOT!!

...thats how come shes SO perfect looking!!!LOL!!:D

I like this interpretation, too. Both interpretations (ImpactBreaker's and Idealist's) are valid and good to read. Both have a lot of thought put into them. I wish I had enough time to dissect the PV, but what I had posted before in the other thread was all I could think of for the moment.

@IB

I love that you pointed out the mirror effect in the first scene. It never occurred to me until now.

Wow, just read the analysis, that was deep, I actually thought the PV was only just portraying her feelings about deciding to continue music despite going partially deaf.

does anybody notice the eiffel tower at the beginning? the director gave us a front view and didnt show the whole tower but the part where it cuts to form an "A", which, if you can notice, is ayu's A symbol lol. i guess that's why she decided to go to paris for her 10th anniversary pv and not anywhere else

it's like the director or ayu herself is making this statement that ayu is as big and grande as the eiffel tower, i guess we can make a few connections here that just like the eiffel tower (which wasnt meant to be a permanent structure at first), ayu still stand tall after all these years, she's still at the top and will continue to be.

you can see the parallel betwen ayu and the tower here
http://ayu.no/images/news/448.jpg

it's funny how at first this pv came out, we all thought the pv is random and really all over the place with bad directing and such, but actually there are alot of deep meanings and ambiguities here and there.

!!!!!

THIS IS THE BEST DESCRIPTION OF ANY OF AYU'S VIDEOS YET!!!!!

wow both interpretation are great!! i never thought about that before lol.
i always thought it's a random video from ayu and kinda disappointed with it being her 10th anniversary video, but actually it really has a very deep meaning. :D

WOW! That was deep. One of the reasons I like Ayu. In a world where people sing about love and heartache almost all the time, Mirrorcle World is refreshing. I would like to read an analysis of other vidoes.

nothing gets passed you, huh? XDDD

wow very good intepretation!

that's what I love about Ayu! she is not just a pretty barbie doll that acts like a singing machine

she has real deep thoughts and express them using her songs and PV's

I hope one day she will make a special documentary to explain the meanings in all her PV's and lyrics!!!

that'll be the best day in my life :) LOLZ

but why didn't she chose the Tokyo Tower? It looks nearly the same doesn't it?