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Mina-Chan 26th May 2008 07:52 PM

[Rumor] Ayumi Hamasaki : Avex Group Holdings Financial Summary
 
Album :
(miss)understood: 1,030,000 (Japan)
(miss)understood: 1,800,000 (Asia)
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Secret: 900,000 (Japan)
Secret: 1,900,000 (Asia)
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A BEST 2- WHITE- 1,000,000 (Japan)
A BEST 2 -WHITE- 1,800,000 (Asia)
A BEST 2 -BLACK- 1,000,000 (Japan)
A BEST 2 -BLACK- 2,000,000 (Asia)
A BEST 2 Total : 2,000,000 (Japan)
A BEST 2 Total : 3,800,000 (Asia)
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GUILTY: 750,000 (Japan)
GUILTY: 1,800,000 (Asia)
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Ayu-mi-x 6: 120,300 (Japan)
Ayu-mi-x 6: 230,000 (Asia)

Singles : (Japan)
BLUE BIRD: 260,460
Glitter/fated: 244,000
talkin'2 myself 160,630
Mirrorcle World: 253,509

Downloads : (Japan)
glitter/fated: 800,000
talkin'2 myself: 540,000
Together When: 3,400,000

Source : Avex Group Holdings Financial Summary + Ayu.no

austin. ♥ 26th May 2008 07:55 PM

3.4 million downloads for Together When?! :shimmy

Zemus 26th May 2008 07:59 PM

Wow, that is very impressive! :D

Bigtop 26th May 2008 08:02 PM

Looks like she's still running strong, even with competitors behind... But what about Kuu-chan?

Neo Daydream 26th May 2008 08:03 PM

cool! Thanks for the info!

Lanz16 26th May 2008 08:03 PM

The AVEX sales are much higher than the ORICON chart finale sales!

Thanks for the news! ^^,

Mina-Chan 26th May 2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lanz16 (Post 1478624)
The AVEX sales are much higher than the ORICON chart finale sales!

Thanks for the news! ^^,

I agree and I'm very happy for this ^^ Ayu is the Queen <3

minkAYuko 26th May 2008 08:12 PM

YAY!! I helped ayu with together again!!!

evolution7931 26th May 2008 08:14 PM

Oh my god they're releasing Asia sales? OMG SO MUCH!!!!!!! <3 GO AYU!!!

pommy48 26th May 2008 08:16 PM

wee to ayu! keep going strong! amazing~

Peger 26th May 2008 08:19 PM

I find it hard to believe she's sold that much in Asia, but there are no official charts that give definitive numbers so it's impossible to prove either way.

ayumisrael 26th May 2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1478636)
I find it hard to believe she's sold that much in Asia, but there are no official charts that give definitive numbers so it's impossible to prove either way.

Those numbers are shipped copies (which avex got money for them so they counted them I guess) though the range of real sales are always in the 100,000-300,000 minus range of the shipped numbers.

Huge XD

Together When... 3,400,000 legal downloads... wow X_X.

KaoriNeko 26th May 2008 08:23 PM

And to think we thought Ayu's sales are bad!

Beauty4123 26th May 2008 08:37 PM

good sales! :D

Halla 26th May 2008 08:40 PM

whoa, these numbers are really good. go ayu :yes

in before someone questioning the truth of these, as an official report for the owners of the Avex Group it would be illegal to lie in the financial report and it would be grounds for a lawsuit I believe.

ayumisrael 26th May 2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1478660)
whoa, these numbers are really good. go ayu :yes

in before someone questioning the truth of these, as an official report for the owners of the Avex Group it would be illegal to lie in the financial report and it would be grounds for a lawsuit I believe.

And would give avex bad reputation for increasing their own numbers.

~ayu-cake~ 26th May 2008 08:45 PM

Wow 3,000,000 downloads?
That's really cool :)

And a mil for Secret in Asia?
That's pretty good to hear as well :)

Negi92 26th May 2008 08:45 PM

Have we got some number about Kuu-chan ?
*Great numbers for Ayu <3333

Bashumaru 26th May 2008 08:55 PM

Congrats to Ayu ;).

truehappiness 26th May 2008 08:58 PM

Someone please screencap where those numbers are.

http://www.avex.co.jp/j_site/press/2009/080516_2.pdf
There are some other numbers here that say that TW... got 720,000..

Peger 26th May 2008 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halla (Post 1478660)
whoa, these numbers are really good. go ayu :yes

in before someone questioning the truth of these, as an official report for the owners of the Avex Group it would be illegal to lie in the financial report and it would be grounds for a lawsuit I believe.

The Japanese corporate world is pretty blatantly corrupt though. It wouldn't be past them to inflate things like this, which only they can verify.

austin. ♥ 26th May 2008 09:11 PM

I think all of Ayu's singles should be download only now, looking at TW's sales. :laugh

kirei_ayumi 26th May 2008 09:14 PM

I always knew ayu had great sales! :cool

truehappiness 26th May 2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1478689)
The Japanese corporate world is pretty blatantly corrupt though. It wouldn't be past them to inflate things like this, which only they can verify.

Maybe Johnny's is, but avex imo seems kinda fair.. fans seem to fuel sudden bursts [i.e AAA FC going insane after Mirage almost lost the #1..]

Ayumiko 26th May 2008 09:34 PM

Those are great numbers...I still think its a shame together when... wasn't released as a cd...it would of sold more than t2m imo.

KuroixShiroi_Namida 26th May 2008 09:45 PM

Thanks for the news. Pretty good sales :shimmy!

julian 26th May 2008 09:45 PM

Does this mean that Ayu has been getting more and more popular in Asia?

m(u) = 770k
Secret = 1.00m
GUILTY = 1.05m

Okay there isn't much of a diff between GUILTY and Secret.. haha.

I'm interested in numbers relating to Namie and Kuu though.. anyone got?

njanjayrp 26th May 2008 09:59 PM

I guess Oricon doesn't cover all of the stores. The numbers look really nice :D

Halla 26th May 2008 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peger (Post 1478689)
The Japanese corporate world is pretty blatantly corrupt though. It wouldn't be past them to inflate things like this, which only they can verify.

true, they're corrupt in a way that they do have a lot of favoritism & unfair deals with other companies.

but inflating the finanvial summary makes no sense. the owners are expecting the yearly end result to be in line with the financial reports, and if it does not live up to what you could expect from these it would be just disastrous for the company. and a fraud of somesort too.

also it's a fact that Oricon does not cover all the sales. the actual sales are probably 10-20% higher for each artist than the number given by Oricon. but Oricon is a good indicator for the success and the most reputable chart in Japan nonetheless :yes

Melon Panda 26th May 2008 10:10 PM

Or, you know, Ayumi could have just sold that many records.

It's not impossible - someone's got to do it, and Ayumi is the prime candidate. Sales aren't what they used to be, but why can't she sell that much in Asia? Seems perfectly likely to me.

njanjayrp 26th May 2008 10:11 PM

XD I just realized they shipped 5.8 millions of A BEST 2 in total :D

ayumisrael 26th May 2008 10:12 PM

It's no secret that ayu is the most popular japanese artist (or female artist) in asia as well.
The best selling Japanese female and solo artist in overall sales officially by oricon too.

KaoriNeko 26th May 2008 10:20 PM

What do you all mean by corrupt?
And Johnny's is corrupt? How?

minna 26th May 2008 10:21 PM

wow that's really amazing !
really impressive !
Ganbatte Ayu! you are the best ! :D

ayumisrael 26th May 2008 10:23 PM

Just for the noticing, ayu's overall sales (that are counted in oricon and only in Japan) are standing on around 46,351,761 to date :D.

Kobayashiwoof 26th May 2008 10:28 PM

i clicked on the pdf, and I can't find anything about those sale figures

Melrose 26th May 2008 11:40 PM

Are those the real sale numbers? Because truehappiness posted a link at the bottom of the first page with different numbers from the official avex website, I think.

Sorry for the size, just wanted to get it noticed. XD

Could someone please post the sales from the pdf? I can't open them, they crash my computer. -_-;

hiroshi_ben 26th May 2008 11:46 PM

im still a bit confused with the asia sales...are they the "real" sales or the shipping sales?cuz i dun think she will sell so much over here...i mean 1million..cmon!?

and the downloading sales!its so expected for together when to have such a high sale!

AyUta 26th May 2008 11:55 PM

Congrats Ayu~! ]

NorthStar 26th May 2008 11:58 PM

These are shipped items, "sold" to the vendors/distributors. Not all sold to customers.

4ever*ayu 26th May 2008 11:59 PM

^yup me too!! where they got the sales figure?

ayumisrael 27th May 2008 12:06 AM

Those numbers are shipped copies, though the bought from stores copies must be in the 100,000-300,000 minus range of the shipped copies or else they wouldn't ship that much.

ll moments ll 27th May 2008 12:33 AM

whoa, nice sales! :)

i'm glad to see she's doing great in Asia!

Deneb 27th May 2008 12:37 AM

guilty is SO close on beating secret :P impressive sells :yes

apple-pi 27th May 2008 12:46 AM

These numbers make me so happy happy joy joy! :syesyes

And damn, Together When... is craaaazy XD

KarenPang 27th May 2008 12:56 AM

thanks for posting the stats , very impressive stuff :)

Partino 27th May 2008 01:03 AM

5.8 mil for A Best 2 and 3.4 for together when... AMAZING!!!! she's getting richer by the second ... :roflmao

se7entheaven 27th May 2008 01:24 AM

even its the shipped numbers...means that the demands for the albums/singles are really great !!! and really she's still the best in Asia

ayuayu798 27th May 2008 01:32 AM

thanks for the info !!

emi♡ 27th May 2008 01:37 AM

hmm...source? the...uh...real one...

AyuGAME 27th May 2008 01:44 AM

woo...that's a lot!!!
wow...i don't know that she can sell a million copies in asia...that's really cool

ExodusUK 27th May 2008 01:45 AM

I'm guessing the vinyls are included in the ayu-mi-x-6 figures?

LacusClyne 27th May 2008 02:21 AM

that's impressive! she did manage to sold a million copies for all her albums afterall

Zachery! 27th May 2008 03:38 AM

where did those sales figures come from? as far as i'm aware, the Financial Summery makes no note of any specific releases. at all.

tokyoxjapanxfan 27th May 2008 03:39 AM

oh wow!!! that's awesome xD thanks for the numbers!!!:D

truehappiness 27th May 2008 03:50 AM

I'm sensing that someone made up their numbers unless actual proof is given :|

zoomzoom 27th May 2008 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1479236)
I'm sensing that someone made up their numbers unless actual proof is given :|

I'm also waiting for some kind of confirmation... :shrug

truehappiness 27th May 2008 03:55 AM

I think users here don't really think about validity too much..

If there's a source, they don't go and check it to see if it's actually real.. @_@

ownsarai 27th May 2008 04:14 AM

Hmm, well, if it is real, then that's great for Ayu~
If it's not, then someone needs to own up to it already. :rolleyes

Ayumi_lover 27th May 2008 04:15 AM

what is her part in whole avex sales?

devilayu 27th May 2008 04:16 AM

I'm tagging this as rumor for now. There's absolutely no confirmation of those numbers in the link.

Bad Wolf 27th May 2008 04:47 AM

o____o over 3 mil for combined A BEST 2 sales?! Jeez. I take back any of my negative sentiments about "best" albums now...

Lanz16 27th May 2008 05:41 AM

Is the AVEX Financial summary is not that reliable?
And so, it is really a rumor? o____o?

truehappiness 27th May 2008 06:02 AM

Well, it's not reliable because there's no information about any artist's sales in it.

Rocky Raven 27th May 2008 06:15 AM

Why the salin' number was so high...!?!
What about Namie-chan!? I have never heard of anything like this to Namie! Avex is not fair at all!

Lanz16 27th May 2008 06:44 AM

Oh! I forgot to mentioned the artist who've been in AVEX for long or contribute such good things like Namie-chan or Ai-chan.
I think its not fair. :(

Zemus 27th May 2008 07:32 AM

Next time, I'll be sure to check the source before I post any comments/reply into one thread. :(

PoetGirl 27th May 2008 08:43 AM

wow

edit:

oh, its a rumor

heeday 27th May 2008 10:23 AM

Ayu conquers Asia
 
even though the stated figures is just a rumor...i do believe that Ayu is doing really well in Asia. I mean, it is possible that her singles and albums sell more or double in Asia compared to other artistes (exclude Utada-she's doin well in Asia too) She doesn't have to worry coz she has quite strong Asians fans to support her. Ganbatte Ayu;)

BoBo 27th May 2008 11:09 AM

together when has quite a lot lol...

TITANIC 27th May 2008 11:33 AM

3,4 million for TW???
O.o

987654321987 27th May 2008 11:44 AM

I skimmed through the doc.
I don't think it mentioned anything about these numbers.
Correct me if i am wrong

AyuHamasaki01 27th May 2008 02:39 PM

Thanks.

Are the Japan sales included in the Asia sales?

ownsarai 28th May 2008 06:56 AM

I couldn't even read what was in the doc file...>.> It was all a bunch of jumbled symbols to me.

Yoake 28th May 2008 07:42 AM

Ayu is the Best!
thanks for info
It's wonderful^^

keikeiaznqueen 28th May 2008 08:10 AM

Yeah, the numbers displayed in the pdf file were different from the numbers shown here. It said Together When... had 720,000 downloads.

I was kinda hoping they'd show the market share of each artist, lol. XDD

ownsarai 28th May 2008 08:20 AM

720k legal downloads is still pretty good for TW...:yes

apple-pi 28th May 2008 10:18 PM

720k? But what about this info here? From Wiki.ThePPN~ is it false?
Quote:

* Total times downloaded (Recochoku):+/- 1,712,900 (full song)
* Total times downloaded (Recochoku):+/- 1,599,641 (ringtone)


wenren93 29th May 2008 05:08 AM

o.0
ayu is way tooooooo good :D

extepan 29th May 2008 01:13 PM

i cant see any specific sales figures in the financial summary. i can't open the file truehappiness posted though, as the program says dont have the required japanese fonts in the acrobat reader.

angelwing886 30th May 2008 06:06 AM

good sales

taskinillusion 30th May 2008 07:45 PM

WHOA~~!! Yay Ayu!!

mangoo_x3 1st June 2008 08:29 AM

I DONT KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS BUT ASIA SALES ARE USUALLY EXAGERATTED! ALSO WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT ON THE AVEX THING?

Bad Wolf 1st June 2008 08:35 AM

^ Well it's been tagged as a rumor so it would stand to reason that it *doesn't* say it anywhere on there and further confirmation is needed.

truehappiness 1st June 2008 08:54 AM

I wonder who made up these numbers in the first place :\

DOLCE 1st June 2008 06:29 PM

Um isn't it a bad thing if a album was a huge amount of copies shipped but the actual amount sold doesn't even come close?

Bad Wolf 1st June 2008 08:27 PM

I'd say it's a little disappointing, but then haven't music sales been down / different in Japan for a while now? A few things need to be factored in - file-sharing online / leaks, competing artists that grab the attention of others... Still, considering the relatively low numbers of record sales here in the US I'd say that Ayu's numbers are still pretty good considering all those factors.


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