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♥ you! 5th September 2008 11:38 AM

Ayu appears on most hated list.
 
Spoiler:
1位 沢尻エリカ(1) Erika Sawajiri
2位 山本モナ(圏外)
3位 細木数子(2)
4位 和田アキ子(3)
5位 倖田來未(14)(Koda Kumi)
6位 西川史子(5)
7位 神田うの(4)
8位 久本雅美(6)
9位 泉ピン子(13)
10位工藤静香(8)
11位加護亜依(圏外)(Ai Kago)
12位小倉優子(12)
13位にしおかすみこ(29)
14位浜崎あゆみ(11)(Ayumi Hamasaki)
15位misono(圏外)
15位エド・はるみ(圏外)
17位野田聖子(圏外)
18位あびる優(17)
18位米倉涼子(圏外)
20位鳥居みゆき(圏外)
21位~30位 スザンヌ、長澤まさみ、田中真紀子、広末涼子、川島なお美、さとう玉緒、デヴィ・スカルノ、木下優樹菜、野 村沙知代、田嶋陽子[PR]バストアップ・エクササイズ
(引用「週刊文春」9/11号より)

the votes were all done by females and I didn't really wanna post this in the news section..I just never knew Ayu would appear on this type of list. At least she dropped three spots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1619770)
Erika should win a big award, she's always number one on this list ahaha.
Can someone romanize the rest of the list?

1 Erika Sawajiri (Singer/Actress)
2 Mona Yamamoto (TV announcer and presenter)
3 Hosoki Kazuko(Japanese Fortune Teller)

4 Akiko Wada (Japanese singer and television performer)
Spoiler:
http://myfirstgossipblog.files.wordp...wadaakiko1.jpg
Can't believe people hate her...LOL

5 Koda Kumi (Singer)
6 Fumiko Nishikawa (ex-actress and doctor)
Spoiler:
If you watched Downtown (with those HEY HEY HEY! guys you will know her. She participated in many pranks with them xD She's a bit crazy LOL

7 Kanda Uno(Actress and Model)
8 Masami Hisamoto(Japanese comedian, actress, singer and tarento)
9 Izumi Pinko(Actress and 70's singer)
10 Kudo Shizuka(Singer)
Spoiler:
Do you wanna a difficult explation why she's hated?
Well she's the wife of
http://yeinjee.com/asianpop/wp-conte...uya-kimura.jpg
Kimura Takuya...yeah... ahaha

11 Ai Kago (Singer, Actress)
12 Yuko Ogura(Model, Idol)
13 Miko something...(?)
14 Ayumi Hamasaki (Singer)
15 misono(Singer)
15 Edo Harumi(Comedian)
17 Noda Seiko(Japanese Politician)
18 Abiru Yu(Model, Idol, Ho**)
Spoiler:
Do you wanna another difficult explanation why she's hated?
Well she dated many popular guys. One of them is Yamapi (ARGH!)
Besides she's kinda a "bicthy" girl.
Put her kanji name on google (あびる優) and then go to images. One of the images you see her and Yamapi (when he was blonde),many other bicthy pictures LOL and pictures kissing different guys O.O LOL

18 Yonekura Ryoko(Actress)
20 Torii Miyuki(?)

21~30:
Suzanne (Model)
Nagasawa Masami (Actress)
Tanaka Makiko (Former Japanese Foreign Minister)
Hirosue Ryouko (Idol, actress, singer)
Kawashima Naomi (Japanese actress, singer, and radio entertainer)
Sato Tamao (Actress)
Dewi Sukarno (Japanese socialite and one of the wives of former Indonesian leader Sukarno)
Yukina Kinoshita (Japanese gravure idol)


minkAYuko 5th September 2008 12:16 PM

hahaha Yuko ogura is on this list too xD, at least she's not that up this time around xD. Oh, and wada akiko here too :P.

Yoake 5th September 2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1617906)

and i think they hate AYU because they are jealous!!

;)

I'm agree. That's why she appears in such list.

prussian blue 5th September 2008 12:36 PM

and i'm sure koda is gaining because oh her scandal...

but good to know ayu dropped alot!

extepan 5th September 2008 12:40 PM

those haters!!!

sitara 5th September 2008 12:47 PM

the more popular you become the more haters you get too.
it's not because you are nr. 1 all the time, the whole country loves you.
it could of course be because ayu gets exposure all the time for ten years now. could be tiring.

also... a poll done by female japanese people ;)

TITANIC 5th September 2008 12:59 PM

anyway there're artist haters as always everywhere

Ayunk 5th September 2008 01:40 PM

sad to hear that.. :( but at least ayu isnt in the top 10.. and yeah, probably those haters are just jealous

keikeiaznqueen 5th September 2008 01:45 PM

Lets look at it this way: on a list of popularity, Ayu would be WAYYY higher up in ranking.

Which shows that Ayu's proportion and fans and haters isn't balanced. There are more people that like her or are neutral than there are people who hate her. :D

Jwiz 5th September 2008 05:12 PM

Jealousy, most probably.

lfe. 5th September 2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keikeiaznqueen (Post 1618100)
Lets look at it this way: on a list of popularity, Ayu would be WAYYY higher up in ranking.

Which shows that Ayu's proportion and fans and haters isn't balanced. There are more people that like her or are neutral than there are people who hate her. :D

Yeah what keikeiaznqueen said.

Shouldn't be shocked at seeing her on lists like these. As popularity goes up, so does the amount of haters. And it really is nice to see that shes actually ranked quite low on a list like this.

and WOAH Kuu is skyrocketing there haha.

SolarAngel 5th September 2008 05:59 PM

Which silly people came up with such a silly list. But at least we know she's also the most popular japanese female solo singer since the last decade so whatever :D

evolusean 5th September 2008 06:00 PM

Although most say they once liked her and that they still enjoy a few of her older songs, the majority of Japanese people I meet say the same things over and over about Ayu:

1. Ayu is over. She's lost her touch, her spark. She's worn out and embarassing now.
2. Ayu is fake. She had her eyes done and sets a bad example for self image.
3. Ayu is such a diva. She's *****y and an over-the-top control freak.

She's reached that level of fame where the country is split on her. Half hate her, half love her, and the middle ground is slim. It just comes with the territory, and it doesn't reflect her as an artist or a person.

freedreamer 5th September 2008 06:13 PM

^yea..thats why they hate her...

wadeva people..

Cloudsoldier 5th September 2008 07:16 PM

mind your words! Kuu-hater in this thread!!!! D=

jbrat2219 5th September 2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1618193)
Although most say they once liked her and that they still enjoy a few of her older songs, the majority of Japanese people I meet say the same things over and over about Ayu:

1. Ayu is over. She's lost her touch, her spark. She's worn out and embarassing now.
2. Ayu is fake. She had her eyes done and sets a bad example for self image.
3. Ayu is such a diva. She's *****y and an over-the-top control freak.

She's reached that level of fame where the country is split on her. Half hate her, half love her, and the middle ground is slim. It just comes with the territory, and it doesn't reflect her as an artist or a person.

You know I hear quite the opposite from Japanese people I know. A lot of them think she is a strong woman and admire her but may not necessarily buy her music. I guess it's like you said, the country is split, some love her, some are annoyed with her. I guess we would have to consider someone who is over promoted in the U.S. to understand what it must be like for the Japanese to experience Ayu for a decade. Personally, I wouldn't mind, I think she's a strong figure in the music industry and a great role model.

And to be honest, I don't know why people STILL think of Koda Kumi as a sl*t anymore. Nothing she's done since before "BUT" screams sl*t to me... In my opinion, she's toned it down alot. Her dance moves aren't as erotic and even if she's not dressing like a nun, she doesn't dress much out of the realm of "pop-star." I started to realize her change in image when she did the PV for FREAKY entirely dressed, at some parts, in rags xD;

Lee_410 5th September 2008 08:23 PM

HAHAH!Jealousy reigns!

Koda isn't a ****,I thought those remarks here were flaming.

[kokoro♥] 5th September 2008 08:49 PM

^ I agree. Kuu hasn't been ****ty since BUT ._. uff.

And, there are only famous people on that list. So of course everyone is going to show up.

♥ you! 5th September 2008 09:09 PM

I don't think Kuu being ****ty is the main reason why she ranked so high. Kuu has a personality that well..you either love or find extremely annoying. The skankiness + scandal doesn't really help her either.

lol@misono being on the list. I have a feeling people voted for her just cause she is Kuu's sister :laugh

truehappiness 5th September 2008 09:26 PM

They could also hate her for baring her body so many times when there's nothing to really see.. (weight loss thing, her new album, etc..)

I personally think this list is just a bunch of bull made by some wota-blog. Sure, Ayu is hated by people in Japan generally, but I think with popularity comes a lot of haters. Especially if you've been out for a long time. I sorta wonder what people say about Yumi Matsutoya or Seiko Matsuda.

Lee_410 5th September 2008 09:30 PM

^That's the cons of fame.

nagamori_etsuya: Double posting is bad.Especially with rude remarks.

Sundae 5th September 2008 10:17 PM

When someone is popular, there are always haters. So not surprised Ayu is on the list. Not surprised to see Koda there too. People that like Ayumi tend to not like Koda. Not sure why though. Koda's not threatening Ayumi's popularity or vise versa.


Can the list be romanized,please? I just updated FF and I can't see the japanese yet.

truehappiness 5th September 2008 10:29 PM

Quote:

Not surprised to see Koda there too. People that like Ayumi tend to not like Koda. Not sure why though. Koda's not threatening Ayumi's popularity or vise versa.
Actually, it goes like this:

People who like Ayu probably like Koda who also probably like Namie and also probably like BoA. But people who like Koda probably like Namie and BoA and probably hate Ayu.

It goes really weirdly. I've never liked Koda, so it doesn't have anything to do with who I like and w/e.. I just have never liked her because she's always seemed very trashy to me. [2003~]

Lchang_87 5th September 2008 10:57 PM

care about the list...i like her and thats all that matters to me ^^

darc_aqua 5th September 2008 11:12 PM

fame comes with a price. Even if ur a long-time artist like Ayu. To me theres nothing to not like about her. Shes a true professional and knows her way in the business. She's a person with a job and she does it well, whats to hate?

Melon Panda 5th September 2008 11:32 PM

As long as she sells well, enough people like her.

pommy48 5th September 2008 11:58 PM

oh i saw this on another forum...was it because of her wacoal shoots?

AyUta 6th September 2008 02:06 AM

I don't care, so long as I love Ayu, nothing else matters. :D Every artist has haters. I'm not surprised at all.

ayu-mix91 6th September 2008 02:20 AM

Stop the Kuu bashing, it isn't necessary.

happiholic★ 6th September 2008 03:09 AM

Why would someone even waste their energy on creating a list of hated singers. There is enough negativity in the world. Who ever made this had nothing better to do, regardless if Ayu is on the list or not.

ImpactBreaker 6th September 2008 03:19 AM

Well, better to have haters than deal with indifference :laugh

SolarAngel 6th September 2008 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1618193)
Although most say they once liked her and that they still enjoy a few of her older songs, the majority of Japanese people I meet say the same things over and over about Ayu:

1. Ayu is over. She's lost her touch, her spark. She's worn out and embarassing now.
2. Ayu is fake. She had her eyes done and sets a bad example for self image.
3. Ayu is such a diva. She's *****y and an over-the-top control freak.

She's reached that level of fame where the country is split on her. Half hate her, half love her, and the middle ground is slim. It just comes with the territory, and it doesn't reflect her as an artist or a person.

Is it demographic devided? Like say perhaps most of the people you come into contact with are teenagers or young adults that feel more strongly about this kinda stuff. And perhaps the place matters as well like my friend said ayu is still hot in tokyo. I agree on the control freak part though (unnecesary additions in AT07 and CDL0708 IMO) but you realise people that say things like that don't even care about her songs. They are just finding reasons to dislike her rather than finding reasons to like her. They never wanted to know more about her in the first place, just dismissing her off. Like "she's lost her touch, her spark". What do they know about her touch and spark in the first place? That she was selling like hotcakes at one time? That's so superficial. And going by her sales she's still popular. Not at the top but that's ok. Personally i'm not too worried.

devilayu 6th September 2008 04:12 AM

I'm saying it once: The thread gets trashed if there's any more flaming against the other women on this list.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 6th September 2008 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolusean (Post 1618193)
Although most say they once liked her and that they still enjoy a few of her older songs, the majority of Japanese people I meet say the same things over and over about Ayu:

1. Ayu is over. She's lost her touch, her spark. She's worn out and embarassing now.
2. Ayu is fake. She had her eyes done and sets a bad example for self image.
3. Ayu is such a diva. She's *****y and an over-the-top control freak.

She's reached that level of fame where the country is split on her. Half hate her, half love her, and the middle ground is slim. It just comes with the territory, and it doesn't reflect her as an artist or a person.



I think you are right

I got japanese friends too and they think the same things about ayu lol

they dont even want to know anything about her really... when i talk to them about ayu they tell me to stop lol




"AYU is just an AVEX product to fight high sales of utada hikaru"
"AYU is only half human, her teeth are porcelain and all her face is fake"
"AYU is old and deaf, nobody cares about her anymore"
"we feel sorry for her, we miss the young and full of live AYU! who made us sing along and listen to her all the time"
"AYU, plus other artists like utada, namie, ami suzuki are too old!! we like new bands!!"


THATS WHAT JAPANESE TEENS THINK ABOUT AYU!!

and i think most of them are true... U.U


maybe thats why she heading out of the country??
japan doesnt like her as bfore...

pommy48 6th September 2008 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1618676)
I agree on the control freak part though (unnecesary additions in AT07 and CDL0708 IMO)


oh..what was ayu control freak about?

http://chinanews.sina.com/ent/2008/0...542765306.html
ayu is on the black list here~
people say it's because of her body that made people not like her...
the poll is like a poll of black listed spokepersons

♥ you! 6th September 2008 05:50 AM

^ cause her body is too perfect?

milky_way 6th September 2008 06:37 AM

And? :shrug

ETA: I'm kinda baffled that people think the only reason that you could dislike an artist is because you're an OMG!JELLIS H8TER!!!1! :/

pommy48 6th September 2008 06:39 AM

ah! i correct myself, i think it's because she wasn't healthy? idk, people just do weird things..

wenren93 6th September 2008 06:54 AM

hmm :S
ppl jealous is an obvious thing, but u can't change them D:
aww anyway,
is very fortunate for ayu that she's not in the #1 for this poll :D

tokyoxjapanxfan 6th September 2008 09:34 AM

i suppose they may hate ayu because she is everywhere and is maybe getting "old" to them--rather than hating her for being a b_tch or anything like that--considering she's never really done anything that would garner hatrid...i think its more jealousy than anything.

kuu is kinda easy as to why she's so high--the scandal. and same with erika.

fake_foxtail 6th September 2008 11:13 AM

I think it's OK if people don't like her because she's old :phew

Lanz16 6th September 2008 12:07 PM

Thank God that Ayu wasn't on the top list at-least than to become one of the artist who've hated.

rusuke 6th September 2008 12:24 PM

i'm not affected!! They're just envious with ayu!!!
Those losers!!!!
I still like Koda after her scandal.

ayu_fantasy 6th September 2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1618349)
Actually, it goes like this:

People who like Ayu probably like Koda who also probably like Namie and also probably like BoA. But people who like Koda probably like Namie and BoA and probably hate Ayu.

It goes really weirdly. I've never liked Koda, so it doesn't have anything to do with who I like and w/e.. I just have never liked her because she's always seemed very trashy to me. [2003~]

I often heard that people who likes koda, Namie and BoA or utada.... Hates ayu....

And the thing is that they don't even listen to Jpop and they made such comment??!! I've heard people saying...

"Eww, i don't like ayumi... I think Namie and BoA is better lor..." And the irony is.... They don't even listen to namie or BoA, or even knows anything about them....

Even i myself, listens to Namie and BoA more than Them...

rikku411 6th September 2008 04:19 PM

Like evolusean said, it comes with the territory. Not everyone will like any artist, lol. So it shouldn't phase anyone who does like the artist.

I could hate some punk/rock band because, "their music grates my eardrums" or that they're too young and know nothing about music. While on the other hand I could hate some mega-popstar because I see him/her everywhere and they're old and outdated. I could even hate some acoustic artist cause their music puts me to sleep.

Whatever the reason, people will differ. These lists just make a big deal out of nothing, I think.

Even if you're the only person you know that likes something... and everyone either doesn't know about it or hate it... then that should be enough for you if the thing you like continues to spark your interest.

Spartayu 6th September 2008 08:50 PM

Whoever participated on voting Ayu among all this belongs to the UBA (United ***** Association). At least Koda Kumi came before her on my most hatred number; 5!

Spartayu 6th September 2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1618748)
I think you are right

I got japanese friends too and they think the same things about ayu lol

they dont even want to know anything about her really... when i talk to them about ayu they tell me to stop lol




"AYU is just an AVEX product to fight high sales of utada hikaru"
"AYU is only half human, her teeth are porcelain and all her face is fake"
"AYU is old and deaf, nobody cares about her anymore"
"we feel sorry for her, we miss the young and full of live AYU! who made us sing along and listen to her all the time"
"AYU, plus other artists like utada, namie, ami suzuki are too old!! we like new bands!!"


THATS WHAT JAPANESE TEENS THINK ABOUT AYU!!

and i think most of them are true... U.U


maybe thats why she heading out of the country??
japan doesnt like her as bfore...

HaHa..! Well that sure is pretty funny! Teens speak like this nowadays huh? It's their glittering age right now, who won't age? In a few years time, their gonna be as 'old' as her, and this time, people will turn back and laugh back at them instead. Oh, and ears will get weaker in hearing when human start aging too, which is what I hate to say this; never throw people that's aged aside. ;)

CoriKaru 6th September 2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milky_way (Post 1618884)
I'm kinda baffled that people think the only reason that you could dislike an artist is because you're an OMG!JELLIS H8TER!!!1! :/

Completely Agree.

My Rainbow 6th September 2008 09:42 PM

Some people here just make me wanna puke...

Honestly... she is on the list because of the kind of fans she has... It doesen't seem strange to me to see her after reading some comments about her coming from her fans...

I like a lot of artists and I've never seen such bad fans like Ayu's... If I were an artist and I had that kind of fans I would stop making music, I don't deal with that kind of people, thanks.

Hate her because she's old, her body, she's deaf...

Not really ladies and gentleman, tehy hate her because she's beautiful, talented, great voice, amazing songs, records, she's an icon, oh yeah... SHE'S THE *******ING QUEEN AND YOU ALL ARE JEALOUS!

AND THAT'S FOR JAPANESE HATERS!

You better treat ayu well of I will come to Japan, put you all in a bag and take you all to Spain where most of the music is crappy and lame and I asure you will cry and will love Ayu.

I hate that people that has the good staff hates it and the poor people that would like it has to conform with ****...

You all should appreciate what you all got!


I'm not mad about the poll, just with som people arround here...

♥ you! 6th September 2008 09:49 PM

^ you don't need to act like Ayu is the only one with those kinds of fans. Ever heard of Britney Spears? :shakehead

Most people get a bit delusional when talking about their favorite singer.

Luv ~Venus~ 6th September 2008 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
*is an obsessed ayu fan who thinks everyone who dislikes is jealous because I think she is Queen*

I guess people hate misono because they are jealous of her too. :rolleyes

My Rainbow, the reason ayu has haters is prolly because her face is always plastered on tv/magazines/posters/wuteva. Srsly. Ayu can go overboard with the promotion and the touring and the releasing and etc. =/ How much of ayu can a person take? Then she hasn't been the most creative person with her music and that could be bothering some people who liked her. Some people just dislike her voice. It could be anything. I'm srsly tired of people saying that people who hate ayu is jealous. :rolleyes There are other factors as to why she's on the list. It could be the main factor that they hate ayu because of her obsessive fans who thinks she's the queen of every gawddamn thang. You just never know. So I suggest you don't be so narrow-minded about the whole situation.


And lulz to misono being on the list. I guess they hate her because she lost too much weight. XD How can you hate my girl misono tho. She's not even popular to get haters. :lmfao I'm not suprised that Koda Kumi is on the list. People just hate her because of her use-to-be image/scandal. :rolleyes I wish people would just give the girl a chance. Taking a chance really doesn't hurt. =/

milky_way 6th September 2008 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartayu (Post 1619664)
Whoever participated on voting Ayu among all this belongs to the UBA (United ***** Association).

WHUT? :irked

CoriKaru 6th September 2008 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
she is on the list because of the kind of fans she has...

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
reading some comments about her coming from her fans...

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
I like a lot of artists and I've never seen such bad fans like Ayu's...

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
I don't deal with that kind of people, thanks.

What? These kinds of fans? These kinds of people?

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
tehy hate her because she's beautiful, talented, great voice, amazing songs, records, she's an icon, oh yeah... SHE'S THE *******ING QUEEN AND YOU ALL ARE JEALOUS!

AND THAT'S FOR JAPANESE HATERS!

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
You better treat ayu well of I will come to Japan, put you all in a bag

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
you will cry and will love Ayu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
You all should appreciate what you all got!


Quote:

Originally Posted by My Rainbow (Post 1619695)
I'm not mad about the poll.

You're not?

Foxxy_Fuyumi 6th September 2008 11:21 PM

Erika should win a big award, she's always number one on this list ahaha.
Can someone romanize the rest of the list?

1 Erika Sawajiri (Singer/Actress)
2 Mona Yamamoto (TV announcer and presenter)
3 Hosoki Kazuko(Japanese Fortune Teller)

4 Akiko Wada (Japanese singer and television performer)
Spoiler:
http://myfirstgossipblog.files.wordp...wadaakiko1.jpg
Can't believe people hate her...LOL

5 Koda Kumi (Singer)
6 Fumiko Nishikawa (ex-actress and doctor)
Spoiler:
If you watched Downtown (with those HEY HEY HEY! guys you will know her. She participated in many pranks with them xD She's a bit crazy LOL

7 Kanda Uno(Actress and Model)
8 Masami Hisamoto(Japanese comedian, actress, singer and tarento)
9 Izumi Pinko(Actress and 70's singer)
10 Kudo Shizuka(Singer)
Spoiler:
Do you wanna a difficult explation why she's hated?
Well she's the wife of
http://yeinjee.com/asianpop/wp-conte...uya-kimura.jpg
Kimura Takuya...yeah... ahaha

11 Ai Kago (Singer, Actress)
12 Yuko Ogura(Model, Idol)
13 Miko something...(?)
14 Ayumi Hamasaki (Singer)
15 misono(Singer)
15 Edo Harumi(Comedian)
17 Noda Seiko(Japanese Politician)
18 Abiru Yu(Model, Idol, Ho**)
Spoiler:
Do you wanna another difficult explanation why she's hated?
Well she dated many popular guys. One of them is Yamapi (ARGH!)
Besides she's kinda a "*****y" girl.
Put her kanji name on google (あびる優) and then go to images. One of the images you see her and Yamapi (when he was blonde),many other *****y pictures LOL and pictures kissing different guys O.O LOL

18 Yonekura Ryoko(Actress)
20 Torii Miyuki(?)

21~30:
Suzanne (Model)
Nagasawa Masami (Actress)
Tanaka Makiko (Former Japanese Foreign Minister)
Hirosue Ryouko (Idol, actress, singer)
Kawashima Naomi (Japanese actress, singer, and radio entertainer)
Sato Tamao (Actress)
Dewi Sukarno (Japanese socialite and one of the wives of former Indonesian leader Sukarno)
Yukina Kinoshita (Japanese gravure idol)

ArchangelLegend 7th September 2008 02:26 AM

I hate Ayu for liking her too much.

pommy48 7th September 2008 02:31 AM

LOL! no wonder people hate Kudo Shizuka, i hate her too!

♥ you! 7th September 2008 02:35 AM

Nooo! my poor Kudochan :weep

Thanks for translating the whole list.

TITANIC 7th September 2008 09:45 AM

as what I;ve said..
artist haters always around us.
even on AHS self
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...=72515&page=19
:laugh

who lost interested to ayu never talk something bad about her but ayu hater will do that and someone hate ayu around us

SURREAL__RAINBOW 7th September 2008 09:49 AM

lol

SolarAngel 7th September 2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1619899)
LOL! no wonder people hate Kudo Shizuka, i hate her too!

This thread will close if flaming of other singers get too much so please don't say things like that. I hate that people hate ayu but i'm trying not to care because ayu is still like getting 16% of sales proceeds from albums and singles so at the end of the day, it's her friends and family that would matter to her. This music thing is her job and i will be objective about it even though she says she sings for her fans etc. Honestly what's she going to do if she retires? Walk her dogs? Life would be too boring. She's not at retirement age yet. I won't be feeling too sorry for her yet.

Lee_410 7th September 2008 03:30 PM

Foxxy,you're the best!That list has interesting gals,especially Abiru Yu.

Luv ~Venus~ 7th September 2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1620252)
as what I;ve said..
artist haters always around us.
even on AHS self
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...=72515&page=19
:laugh

who lost interested to ayu never talk something bad about her but ayu hater will do that and someone hate ayu around us

Just because people don't like/hate her music doesn't mean they don't like her. :rolleyes Even tho I'm not fond of her current music, that doesn't mean I hate her. In fact, I'm still in to her music just not wut she's been giving us lately. =/ So that link you posted can be edited out. :o

MsMiyabi 7th September 2008 09:59 PM

Koda Kumi got their cause of that scandel

jpopfan 7th September 2008 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1618349)
Actually, it goes like this:

People who like Ayu probably like Koda who also probably like Namie and also probably like BoA. But people who like Koda probably like Namie and BoA and probably hate Ayu.



Really? With me its the complete opposite. I LOVE Koda and everyone I know that likes her also likes Ayu. And Those who like Ayu more seem to hate koda.


The list is random thing to do but its not a suprise. There will always be haters to singers.

pommy48 7th September 2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1620447)
This thread will close if flaming of other singers get too much so please don't say things like that.

oh sorry~ i wasn't flaming~ it was meant as a joke~ and if i really were flaming, the LOL would not have been there

Izzette 7th September 2008 10:41 PM

They hate Ayumi cause she is a talented song writer and singer.

I can understand why they hate Erika and Koda

Not dissing or nothing. I do like some of Erika and Koda's songs. I'm just saying they aren't the best people on earth.

gothicayu 7th September 2008 10:43 PM

kuu went up surely thanks to the rotten eggs and her fast way to talk and vulgar way to act i guess . what about that erika ? is there any interresting story behind it ?

pommy48 7th September 2008 10:44 PM

erika was a diva? at the premiere of her movie~ i think that's why people don't like her

Kobayashiwoof 7th September 2008 11:16 PM

mmm I love it :D , remember guys there are haters for every popular artist so don't try to make excuses for your artist. It's just the way things roll.

kotora 8th September 2008 12:48 AM

To be honest, I agree Erika Sawajiri is no.1. She is so *****y. I bet lots of people dislike her attitude. I am one of them.

Ayu is sightly deceasing from last year.

Kikaru 8th September 2008 02:53 AM

...well, she's out of the top ten? :shrug

Personally I can never hate any artist, because hate seems to imply a personal level for me. Unless they committed a really bad crime, like mass murder or something...

I can see hating a song, and not liking someone's voice. And I can see fans being disappointed by a release, I know I have done my share of complaining. But I think if you don't like the artist/actor/model/whatever in the first place, why waste time?

Kinda like that time when a DBSK anti-fan tried to poison Yuhno...really makes me wonder

pbs1605 8th September 2008 08:49 AM

This is one list i am glad Ayu was not number one,even top 10 in.

TITANIC 8th September 2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1620866)
Just because people don't like/hate her music doesn't mean they don't like her. :rolleyes Even tho I'm not fond of her current music, that doesn't mean I hate her. In fact, I'm still in to her music just not wut she's been giving us lately. =/ So that link you posted can be edited out. :o

I'm glad if some ppl still like her music

ppl dont like her just shut his/her mouth up and never talked something bad. but what should we call if someone say something rude and bad about her?? "AYULOVER MAYBE?"

gothicayu 8th September 2008 10:22 AM

thank you pommy for those information i remember seeing her name in this hotman drama . anyone know who she played ? and i didnt relealize erika the singer was her too !
she must have done something worse than the rotten eg to be number one . i really wonder what . about the fortune teller well its not really surprising after saying bad stuff to people on tv when you dont even know them ...( what goes around come around).

for ayu , im not an ayu hater and i m not here to bash her . i love her music but i think that the fact that she play the diva and get drunk often make people think bad of her.

about ai kago wasnt she in mini moni or morning musume ? why is she hated too ? anyone have explaination ?

ps : very funny thing someone pruposed to give an award for the most hated . i think it would be really funny if the top 3 received every year a diploma for the most hated and have to give an interview after it showing off even more attitude lol
(they have best jean , best nail , bets woman , best vocal etc , why not worse nail wose vocal , the most hated etc )

ImpactBreaker 8th September 2008 10:23 AM

It's indeed hilarious why people who hate ayu have to be jealous, according to some posts in this thread. With such a bizarre conclusion, I'll then assume the great part of people in this forum who claim they hate american music are actually JEALOUS of all those american artists :laugh :bchuck And the people who hate the more sexually provocative artists like Britney and Madonna are actually jealous of them :rofl

Maybe some people hate ayu because they can't stand her singing every day abut her deceased friends, half wings and tomoya nagase :shrug And maybe they can't stand H/\L anymore. Or maybe they can't stand her fashion sense, and find it questionable. It's not all about jealousy....

SURREAL__RAINBOW 8th September 2008 10:43 AM

haha
i like erikas music

O__o

xDDDD

gothicayu 8th September 2008 10:53 AM

i agree with you that saying i hate ayu in big in an ayu forum is not the smartest thing to do . i dont think people hate ayu because they are jealous . i m not an ayu hater but in my opinion everyone have different taste and different personnality and will like different persons . thats pretty much it .

just a question that have no link with ayu . i love amuro too i was wondering if she ever appears in the most hated rank this year or previous years ?

ImpactBreaker 8th September 2008 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gothicayu (Post 1621720)
at she play the diva and get drunk often make people think bad of her.

about ai kago wasnt she in mini moni or morning musume ? why is she hated too ? anyone have explaination ?

Isn't ai kago kinda of hated because she disrespected her contract and was caught smoking? I'm not sure if that was the reason....

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Originally Posted by gothicayu (Post 1621720)
ps : very funny thing someone pruposed to give an award for the most hated . i think it would be really funny if the top 3 received every year a diploma for the most hated and have to give an interview after it showing off even more attitude lol
(they have best jean , best nail , bets woman , best vocal etc , why not worse nail wose vocal , the most hated etc )

It would be hilarious :bchuck

SolarAngel 8th September 2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1618771)
oh..what was ayu control freak about?

This is all a personal opinion. Some parts of the documentary of AT07 and CDL07-08 was supposed to show how serious ayu was in putting forward the best concert for her fans at the expense of her dancers and i feel it portrays her in a somewhat negative light. It made her look picky and inconsiderate (i know she teared when addressing the dancers but that aside...). I hope i never treat my subordinates like that. Maybe you could put it down to an asian mentality i guess, being more direct with criticisms and stuff but choreography and stage direction is not her area of specialization. Sometimes, i also feel that her team has no choice but to obey her. They are team AYU after all...
All in all, i rather those parts be left out of the documentary. Why are you airing your behind the scenes linen in it? I prefer past documentaries where they had more random shots but structured in a more comprehensible way.

ayu_fantasy 8th September 2008 06:21 PM

hmms.... That's life i guess.... No point getting so angry.... Some might be jealous, some might just hate her....

But for all i know, lots of Namie amuro Fanatics seem to hate ayu alot.... Good for Namie i guess.. LOL...

Raleigh 9th September 2008 01:36 AM

Not surprised to see Erika top the list again. She pretty much seems to make an effort to get people to hate her.

jbrat2219 9th September 2008 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1622163)
This is all a personal opinion. Some parts of the documentary of AT07 and CDL07-08 was supposed to show how serious ayu was in putting forward the best concert for her fans at the expense of her dancers and i feel it portrays her in a somewhat negative light. It made her look picky and inconsiderate (i know she teared when addressing the dancers but that aside...). I hope i never treat my subordinates like that. Maybe you could put it down to an asian mentality i guess, being more direct with criticisms and stuff but choreography and stage direction is not her area of specialization. Sometimes, i also feel that her team has no choice but to obey her. They are team AYU after all...
All in all, i rather those parts be left out of the documentary. Why are you airing your behind the scenes linen in it? I prefer past documentaries where they had more random shots but structured in a more comprehensible way.

Do you mean the tissue thing? I thought she decided to cancel that because they hadn't had enough practice. And they got to do it at CDL 07-08 like she promised.... I don't really see that as being controlling rather than just looking out for them. What if the girls FELL? That's a pretty dangerous routine.

But if you mean something else, maybe I missed it. My vocal Japanese skills are almost non-existent so I don't know much outside of the chinese-english translation someone posted.

Did something else happen?

v3lun420 9th September 2008 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1617903)
haha
at least erika sawajiri and koda are first!

lol

oh yeah

i think they hate erika bcose she is such a B_tch!
and koda bcose she is a SLU_!

and i think they hate AYU because they are jealous!!

;)

^ I can't agree more

panda87 9th September 2008 02:27 AM

funny, haha. but maybe they hate ayu b/c they think she's so abnormally gorgeous that she's probably plastic... probably out of jealousy. also, maybe b/c of her voice that isn't appealing to some.

now, i understand the rest. as for koda kumi? yeeeah maybe b/c she was a bit *****y that seemed self-degrading and disgraceful to the honorable Japanese... and also b/c of her scratchy voice... which i think is hot.

♥ you! 9th September 2008 02:36 AM

Oh I forgot Kuu is dating Nakai from SMAP. That probably pissed off a lot of SMAP fangirls = kumi hate

jbrat2219 9th September 2008 03:58 AM

^ Woah! I had no idea she was seeing someone! *looks him up*

SolarAngel 9th September 2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1622630)
Do you mean the tissue thing? I thought she decided to cancel that because they hadn't had enough practice. And they got to do it at CDL 07-08 like she promised.... I don't really see that as being controlling rather than just looking out for them. What if the girls FELL? That's a pretty dangerous routine.

But if you mean something else, maybe I missed it. My vocal Japanese skills are almost non-existent so I don't know much outside of the chinese-english translation someone posted.

Did something else happen?

I bought the VCD version with fan ti chinese flashing across the screen so hope i'm not misreading anything. She didn't want chisa and midorin to perform the tissue thing because using my translation "if i were the audience, i would expect it to be done by professionals" so however you want to interpret that. My issue is not really with the tissue performance. More like how she wants to change dance routines last minute (for 1 Love), music sequences (glitter)... I don't know i'm just not so happy with it. I've been on the receiving end of pedantic stage directors before so i sort of know how the dancers may feel sometimes. But maybe they take it better than i would? I love her concerts but i wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of her critical eye.

jbrat2219 9th September 2008 06:50 PM

Oh I understand what you mean, I guess you would have to have been in their shoes to get a better idea of what they're going through. Me having never been on a stage in my life, I don't see it as anymore than her having control over her own show. Sure she's not an experienced stage director or whatever, but if that's how she wants it, that's how it's done. I think the way someone translated it was, "If I were the audience, I would think they were professionals (because they practiced so hard)." It's possible I read it wrong. At any case, it seemed to me she wanted them to have more practice.

I think it's a nice balance about it though. I think they take it well cause she's not YELLING at them or telling them they're incompetent. I mean if I were to work for someone who made a lot of last minute changes or cancelled things a lot. I would want them to handle it the way Ayu does. She doesn't seem rude about it, I think she really wants to bring the best out of them in a way. That's how I look at it anyway. And it seems they're doing the tissue routine a lot since that time, ne? :)

See this is what I read:

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Narrator : The dancer is recording their “tissue” performance for Ayu.
Chisa : I hope she can see us doing these stuff… if she saw us and gave us advice, I think it will be much better.
Ayu : If I were the audience, I would say they are professional.
Staff : Let’s do some “open-minded” meeting.
Peco : I can't wait to say it, I want to say “cancel the “tissue” and replaced by the ring -I don’t know how to translate it!)performance”(
Staff : We can perform the “tissue” next year.
Peco : The next Countdown LIVE must have this performance, and therefore you girls have more time to practice it. I’m so sorry to say this.
Chisa : Don’t say it like that. I’m fine
Do you think they translated differently for the VCD version? Cause I got the Hong Kong version.

SolarAngel 10th September 2008 04:15 AM

Yeah at least she's nice about the changes she wants to make. As ayu says, so it shall be. Mine's the hk VCD so i think the chinese should be the same, just that on DVD it's on a sheet of paper so it's easier to refer to and do a translation. Actually i read the translation already (to get a more comprehensive feel of the MC section and documentary haha, cos my chinese is not so good which is quite shameful since i had chinese education through 11 grades). After reading it, i watched CDL07-08 again (not because i wanted to check though, just really liked the concert) and paused at that segment to properly read the chinese. I sort of disagree with the translation provided above. I get the impression it's more like "would the audience think this is done by professionals" rather than "this is done by professionals". But then again, i'm sure ayu's staff are not spineless. I'm sure they know how to stand up to her if her suggestions aren't so feasible :)

Celaphorce 10th September 2008 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1617903)
haha
at least erika sawajiri and koda are first!

lol

oh yeah

i think they hate erika bcose she is such a B_tch!
and koda bcose she is a SLU_!

and i think they hate AYU because they are jealous!!

;)

I don't think what you stated about Kuu is true, I think people are only hating on her because of her statement earlier on this year, which is understandable.

AyuGAME 10th September 2008 04:23 AM

its normal i think

jbrat2219 10th September 2008 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1623816)
Yeah at least she's nice about the changes she wants to make. As ayu says, so it shall be. Mine's the hk VCD so i think the chinese should be the same, just that on DVD it's on a sheet of paper so it's easier to refer to and do a translation. Actually i read the translation already (to get a more comprehensive feel of the MC section and documentary haha, cos my chinese is not so good which is quite shameful since i had chinese education through 11 grades). After reading it, i watched CDL07-08 again (not because i wanted to check though, just really liked the concert) and paused at that segment to properly read the chinese. I sort of disagree with the translation provided above. I get the impression it's more like "would the audience think this is done by professionals" rather than "this is done by professionals". But then again, i'm sure ayu's staff are not spineless. I'm sure they know how to stand up to her if her suggestions aren't so feasible :)

Oh okay I see! I don't know ANY chinese other than greetings and maybe a few words that match in Japanese so I have to rely on the translations of others xD; I'll try to re-watch that part to see if I can catch it in Japanese, but I believe you for the most part. At any rate, I don't think Ayu deserves to be on the list for that haha

ArchangelLegend 10th September 2008 05:46 AM

I hate Ayu because she'll never be my girlfriend.

Alessia_Tateno 10th September 2008 05:58 AM

What are you all saying? If they hate Koda it's because she is a b**** and if they hate Ayu it's because they are jealous? Face it, you can't pretend that Ayu is loved by everyone, there are a lot of people who dislike her and aren't jelous of her...same of Koda, Waka, Erika etc etc etc

I myself don't like a lot of artists and I am not jealous of them at ALL XD

PS = I think Wada Akiko is there because of her personality...she always get drunk and gives trouble to younger artists XD

About the fact "the more you are popular, the more you are hated"..well it can be true, and it cannot...I've never seen Namie in this list O.O Never! Maybe I missed some year's list but I really don't remember to have seen her name in those list XD

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1618295)
They could also hate her for baring her body so many times when there's nothing to really see.. (weight loss thing, her new album, etc..)

I personally think this list is just a bunch of bull made by some wota-blog. Sure, Ayu is hated by people in Japan generally, but I think with popularity comes a lot of haters. Especially if you've been out for a long time. I sorta wonder what people say about Yumi Matsutoya or Seiko Matsuda.

Many people dislike Seiko as a person..."because she is not a good person"..."she is a *****" (she has been more men than anyone else I know) and "Akina was going to die because of her!"

I don't hate Seiko, but I dislike her as a person for what she did...musically speaking I admire and love her songs so much!

Ani_C 10th September 2008 06:14 AM

Not surprised, she's getting 'old' after all. *sigh* It's hard to appreciate music when it comes to so many other factors that don't include the actual music so much.

edit: LMAO at the Kuu comments, what involvement does she have at all with Ayu? Honestly, comparing artists that are obviously different is just whack. Unless they're doing the exact SAME styles (meaning they sound so alike it's stupid ._. ) it's pointless.

Alessia_Tateno 10th September 2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nagamori_etsuya (Post 1618748)
I think you are right

I got japanese friends too and they think the same things about ayu lol

they dont even want to know anything about her really... when i talk to them about ayu they tell me to stop lol




"AYU is just an AVEX product to fight high sales of utada hikaru"
"AYU is only half human, her teeth are porcelain and all her face is fake"
"AYU is old and deaf, nobody cares about her anymore"
"we feel sorry for her, we miss the young and full of live AYU! who made us sing along and listen to her all the time"
"AYU, plus other artists like utada, namie, ami suzuki are too old!! we like new bands!!"


THATS WHAT JAPANESE TEENS THINK ABOUT AYU!!

and i think most of them are true... U.U


maybe thats why she heading out of the country??
japan doesnt like her as bfore...

I also think some of those sentences are true =P

Richieooxx 10th September 2008 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by alternarist (Post 1618149)
at least pple hate ayu not as much as Erika and Koda.

Koda is just a plain SLU_ that isnt pretty.

I wonder why pple hate Erika so much though.. anyone care to enlighten me?


because you know the total number of people Koda Kumi slept with?

It's kinda funny how half of the people who call her a **** are the one's that complain when she tonned down her image. :grumpy

Glamorous_Sky 10th September 2008 08:57 AM

LOL@abiru yuu. apparently going out w/yamapi didn't help her career after all, eh? ah well. there's just as many people who still love ayu as there are that hate her.

jbrat2219 10th September 2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sunday ♥ (Post 1623939)
because you know the total number of people Koda Kumi slept with?

It's kinda funny how half of the people who call her a **** are the one's that complain when she tonned down her image. :grumpy

Half the people who call her a s*ut like her s*utty songs LOL.

SolarAngel 10th September 2008 05:37 PM

^Yeah ayu doesn't deserve to be on that list. In fact it's a pretty crappy list. What's the point of ranking the singers you hate (and why are they all female). If you like the singer you can do tons for them like buying their stuff and spreading the love. If you hate them, there's nothing you can do to drag down the oricon numbers short of hacking in. And it's not like their fans will defect to your hate camp.


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