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SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th November 2008 08:05 AM

PVs killing songs
 
Well, after the release of GREEN's pv, I felt really sad because I didn't like the pv, but I LOVE the song soo much U.U

the same thing happened with other pvs I believe as well:

-Daybreak
-walking proud
-humming 7/4
-Born to be...
-Bold & Delicious
-talkin' 2 myself
-decision
-GREEN


what do you think?? any other pvs that killed the song??

love in music 29th November 2008 08:09 AM

i don't really think a PV could kill an amazing song for me.

well maybe TO BE ;)

pommy48 29th November 2008 08:11 AM

hmm...killing the song...umm...umm...oh..never mind...let's see...song killing pv...oh!..no..OO...no wait..i liked that pv...maybe?...hmm...ok let me think for a bit..OO GOT IT!

Connected~ no ayu :D

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 29th November 2008 08:11 AM

Daybreak
TO BE
Depend on you

jbrat2219 29th November 2008 08:38 AM

-Daybreak
-Born to be...
-Bold & Delicious (the story one is nice...)
-SURREAL
-HANABI ~episode II~ (love the song, not the PV...)

Anything off A Song for XX...

yoshino 29th November 2008 08:45 AM

^ yes!! I agree with all the above as listed! I dun like GREEN pv either.. I wonder y sometimes they didnt make the pv good enough.

but I LOVE the song!! oh my...

SunshineSlayer 29th November 2008 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 1721343)
Well, after the release of GREEN's pv, I felt really sad because I didn't like the pv, but I LOVE the song soo much U.U

the same thing happened with other pvs I believe as well:

-Daybreak
-walking proud
-humming 7/4
-Born to be...
-Bold & Delicious
-talkin' 2 myself
-decision
-GREEN


what do you think?? any other pvs that killed the song??

hmm, the only ones on that list that I would agree with are Born to Be and Bold and Delicious, I'd maybe add Don't Leave Me Alone as well. hmm, can't really think of any others that were so bad that they killed the song for me though.

Aderianu 29th November 2008 11:08 AM

GREEN
Ladies Night

~ayu-cake~ 29th November 2008 01:43 PM

Hmm, I can't think of any pv that's killed a song for me =S

*Petit* 29th November 2008 01:53 PM

Doesen't apply to me. There are several PVs I dont' find interesting like FREE&EASY even if I love the song, I just don't watch them. Some PVs also have long parts with nothing really going on liek NWTS,so I prefer lsteining to the song without it.

In the case of Bonr to Be I didn't really like the song that much in the first place. =P

ImpactBreaker 29th November 2008 02:10 PM

Not the videos, but the random extremely loud sound effects on some of her PVs sometimes kill the song for me. I had to stop watching the walking proud PV because the sound effects are way too loud and they start to make the song sound different (in a negative way).

alternarist 29th November 2008 02:23 PM

i do agree that PV usually dont kill the song.. because most of the times, we would be listening to the song rather than watching the PV. But there is this one PV that i literally HATE but the song is damn good and that is..


Born To Be...

henrique 29th November 2008 02:38 PM

I think the same about Green PV.......I like the music but this PV please....

[taskin.ayu] 29th November 2008 02:48 PM

I usually visualize the PV when I listen to a song, so it's not fun listening to it when the PV is icky. XD I usually invent another PV in my head though. XD

Here's my list:
Beautiful Fighters
Bold & Delicious
Talkin' 2 Myself
Mirrorcle World
GREEN

I could list more, but I want to forget the PVs. XD

kiseki 29th November 2008 02:55 PM

Interesting topic :D Let's see....

- Born To Be...
- Talkin' 2 myself
- Angel's Song
- Mirrorcle World
- TO BE

That's what I can think of at the moment :)

Ayunk 29th November 2008 03:40 PM

Humming 7/4
Voyage (the song is nice though)
SURREAL (the song is awesome, but not the PV)

Melrose 29th November 2008 08:17 PM

Born To Be and.. basically most LOVEppears PVs. And Connected. And walking proud.. Yea.

YuriChan 29th November 2008 08:23 PM

HMMM!!! GEE!!! Let's say for argument sake that the only PV that killed the song (for me) was... umm... JEWEL! :D

Evolution7/4 29th November 2008 08:29 PM

Boys and Girls

ストロボ・EdGE 29th November 2008 10:07 PM

ENDLESS SORROW!! I hate that PV, it killed the song ssoo bad!

[sarcasm]
If I was around at the time I would've pushed the stupid little Japanese-speaking white kid off the building with his one fricking wing!!
[/sarcasm]

love in music 29th November 2008 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 1721955)
ENDLESS SORROW!! I hate that PV, it killed the song ssoo bad!

[sarcasm]
If I was around at the time I would've pushed the stupid little Japanese-speaking white kid off the building with his one fricking wing!!
[/sarcasm]

:laugh :roflmao

i agree though, that video needs more ayumi in it

Deibel 29th November 2008 10:37 PM

A Song for XX (she should do "A song for XX ~PV episode II~")
Pride
Depend on you
TO BE
HEAVEN (the pv isn't so bad, but it could be better with the great song that is HEAVEN!!)
Voyage

Mari-chan 29th November 2008 10:42 PM

For me, a PV can not kill a song. If a song is good, it is good. I don't need to watch the PV any more, if I don't like it.
So... there is no PV, which kills a song for me.

Quote:

A Song for XX (she should do "A song for XX ~PV episode II~")
Hm? There is no PV for A song for XX...!

Deibel 29th November 2008 10:47 PM

omg, it was a mistake!

I mean hanabi ~episode II~

Gomen nasai

kirei_ayumi 29th November 2008 10:56 PM

walking proud *_*
seem like all she did was stand around...

visionfactory 29th November 2008 11:03 PM

For me:

-walking proud
-humming 7/4
-decision

micster 29th November 2008 11:06 PM

eeh tbh im not really listening to GREEN anymore and thats cos of the PV

♥ you! 29th November 2008 11:35 PM

GREEN :puke
I never liked the song in the first place...but the pv made me hate it even more :weep

Purple Neko 30th November 2008 12:34 AM

I thought T2M PV was awesome o.o;;

Evolution7/4 30th November 2008 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mari-chan (Post 1721988)

Hm? There is no PV for A song for XX...!

Well there kinda is: http://www.crunchyroll.com/media-147...ng-for-XX.html

Its the CM for the CD

Calico 30th November 2008 01:01 AM

I agree that a PV can't "kill" a song for me. If anything it can only do opposite, for any artist, and make it better or make me appreciate it more.

But if I don't like a PV I just don't watch it again, or very rarely.

thinkingoutloud89 30th November 2008 01:35 AM

I happen to like every song that has an PV more...probably cause i get an image...a live performance is already enough

Chibi_Venus 30th November 2008 02:33 AM

I can't really think of any. :)

ストロボ・EdGE 30th November 2008 04:05 AM

Oh yeah, I forgot about STEP YOU!! Watching that video was such a disapointment. It was ssoo boring... she did look cute in that green dress though ^_^

ownsarai 30th November 2008 04:21 AM

The only PV's I don't like are Born to Be...I kinda like the song, but the PV is just way too bright, and Daybreak, way too blah. I wish she would have used the original mix and made a better PV for it. HAL's mix=:no

ll moments ll 30th November 2008 04:23 AM

a PV doesn't really change the opinion of a song for me. the main focus is the song, so i can live with a bad PV, to be honest. i just don't watch it again. xD

majrakun 30th November 2008 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micster (Post 1722010)
eeh tbh im not really listening to GREEN anymore and thats cos of the PV

Same, I suddenly find that song annoying because I keep picturing Ayu's bad facial expressions in my head. Sad, I used to be so obsessed with it.

ownsarai 30th November 2008 04:27 AM

Meh. GREEN is a beautiful song, I can deal with it having a not so perfect PV. I know Days will more than make up for that! (At least I hope so~)

AyUta 30th November 2008 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ll moments ll (Post 1722314)
a PV doesn't really change the opinion of a song for me. the main focus is the song, so i can live with a bad PV, to be honest. i just don't watch it again. xD

Exactly the same for me :)

GRACE 30th November 2008 05:03 AM

For me, music and music video are two different entities, I can love a music video and hate a song, and love a song and hate a video.

milky_way 30th November 2008 05:25 AM

ANGEL'S SONG
Born to Be...
glitter
Mirrorcle World

music_* 30th November 2008 07:29 AM

Really? o.O
Hmm... For me, PVs actually make me like the song more. For good PVs, that is.
For not-so-good ones? I'd just stick to listening to the song.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th November 2008 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by music_* (Post 1722495)
Really? o.O
Hmm... For me, PVs actually make me like the song more. For good PVs, that is.
For not-so-good ones? I'd just stick to listening to the song.


yeah
but I feel sad now when I hear GREEN, because it make me to remember that pv.. lol

agashi 30th November 2008 10:31 AM

i think endless sorrow...
one of the most PV killing songs...

and..
Free & Easy..Is that poison grape ??why ayu use grape?-_- dun't know what meaning for that PV

and...
Poker face..
-_- ayu's face so pale..

xLuna&1LOVE 30th November 2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agashi_qiao (Post 1722622)
i think endless sorrow...
one of the most PV killing songs...

and..
Free & Easy..Is that poison grape ??why ayu use grape?-_- dun't know what meaning for that PV

So far I know she's playing as Jeanne d'Arc, but you are right.. I don't understand a lot of the PV:no

Anyway my list:

Humming 7/4
GREEN
Bold & Delicious
Pride
Decision
Beautiful Fighters
Endless Sorrow

agashi 30th November 2008 12:13 PM

yeaa..
beautiful fighter too..
so lame..**
ayu become silly cashier? what a "wonderful" idea~ XD

hoshiBlack 30th November 2008 12:15 PM

Daybreak
walking proud
humming 7/4
Born to be...
Bold & Delicious
GREEN
Free & Easy
HEAVEN

at the moment I can;t think of anything else, but I was totally disappointed with GREEN. I hope Days will be much better, because the song is so nice.

ArchangelLegend 30th November 2008 06:30 PM

None, if I don't like a PV I just don't watch it, just listen to the song and don't feel any different about it. In that sense, no PV can kill a song for me. Even though I found some PVs like Blue Bird, Boys and Girls, Decision, or Trust to be bland with little substance, but I don't like these songs any less. At least GREEN, Mirrorcle World, Dearest, Real Me, Startin', Glitter/Fated, etc. had substance, added more meaning, or added more entertainment to the song (regardless whether or not if you like a PV or if it any makes sense to anyone). There are PVs that make me like a song more though (like STEP you or talkin' 2 myself simply because I found them entertaining).

PVs that I found very good like Marionette, Fairyland, or Together When..., , etc. actually "killed" the song because I found them better than the song even though the song is good. In this sense, killing the song had an opposite positive effect to the song because the PVs made such a strong impression as to overcome the song (like in the phrase "dress to kill"). Oddly enough however, those PVs didn't make me like the song more though. ^_^

AyuHamasaki01 30th November 2008 06:33 PM

For me:

Daybreak
Humming 7/4
Born to be...
decision
GREEN


EDIT: new initiate becuz of this post. :mini

Yumsushi 1st December 2008 10:45 PM

DECISION! This song is amazing. The best song (IMHO) on Guilty and it had that lame PV. The second best song was Glitter and it had an even worse PV!
Ahem, this is going to be a long list.
Decision
Glitter
GREEN
Beautiful Fighters
Born to be (blind)
Vogue
Dearest
Daybreak
To Be
GAME
About you
I love alot of these songs, but I just cant watch their PVs.

DECISION! This song is amazing. The best song (IMHO) on Guilty and it had that lame PV. The second best song was Glitter and it had an even worse PV!
Ahem, this is going to be a long list.
Decision
Glitter
GREEN
Beautiful Fighters
Born to be (blind)
Vogue
Dearest
Daybreak
To Be
GAME
About you
I love alot of these songs, but I just cant watch their respective PVs.

Chibi_Venus 2nd December 2008 12:09 AM

I guess for me, I've obviously had disappointing music videos. But there was never a time where I watched the video and suddenly hated the song because of that. :)

If I didn't like the PV, I obviously erased the visual from my mind and continued to like the song. :D

Emperatriz Ayumi 2nd December 2008 01:46 AM

Probably TO BE and Depend on You...

dawnss 2nd December 2008 02:12 AM

The video to TO BE goes with the lyrics of the song, especially when AYU sings about the junk that someone carries, yet the person in the video is a young child carrying junk, which is interesting because children are supposed to be care free and happy, they are not supposed to feel extreme emotions. I know that somewhere there is an analysis of the Daybreak music video. I have found a little bit in walking proud I find it interesting that Ayu has a child introduce her song and how she walks out into the scenary however the song has very negative feelings surronding it. It is almost as if the child represents her innoncence and the image that people use to refer to her. ALso I think that the child represents the past, the young man dancing is her present, and the older man is her future. Yet the older man looks lost almost to say that he does not know where he is going even though he is older and should be wise. Also when she is lying down on we get a sense that Ayu is almost stripped down, because she appears to be naked yet she has rhinestones on her flesh covered suit which makes her appear less animalistic or human than she really is, which takes away from her faults because she appears to be beautiful and pure. The video to talkin 2 myself I feel goes with the song very well desrtuction is evident in the lyrics as well as in the video.

Catzi 2nd December 2008 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calico (Post 1722119)
I agree that a PV can't "kill" a song for me. If anything it can only do opposite, for any artist, and make it better or make me appreciate it more.

But if I don't like a PV I just don't watch it again, or very rarely.

I agree 100%! :yes

amorphose 2nd December 2008 02:41 AM

There must not be many Hikki fans here cause compared to Hikki's post-Kaz PVs all of Ayumi's are amazing. XD

everlastingRAINBOW 3rd December 2008 02:58 AM

glitter/fated (BARF)

evolutionricky 5th December 2008 06:30 AM

Daybreak and Born To Be... for sure!

gogirlanime 5th December 2008 06:45 AM

Voyage (but I also don't like the song)
my name's WOMEN (really hated the PV)
walking proud
BLUE BIRD
vogue
fated
GREEN
Mirrocle World
Startin' (really hated the PV)

Funny enough, I love the Daybreak PV regardless of how cheap it was, it brought so much emotion and the true feelings of the song.

Bold&Delicious was so fun to me, Ayu looked great.

Diana 5th December 2008 07:44 PM

Well..
ANGEL'S SONG
Bold & Delicious
evolution..

But I don't care if I love the song :D lol

xLitax 6th December 2008 03:16 AM

GREEN, definitely GREEN.

rakeru 6th December 2008 05:16 AM

Ayu pvs can't kill songs, they can only enhance them!

CHE.R.RY 6th December 2008 07:21 AM

Honestly, I don't let PVs ruin my liking of a song...I just don't see how that works really :O...but hey, everyone has their own way of seeing things. BUT ANYWAYS, I either like the song or not regardless of the PV, although I won't deny that it is disappointing when a wonderful song gets a horrid PV -_-....

nemesisyume 6th December 2008 05:23 PM

''I don't let PVs ruin my liking of a song'' ----> ''I don't USUALLY let PVs ruin my liking of a song''

when i saw the PV of ANGEL'S SONG something just said boom in my head and I now don't like that song as much as I used to. weird.

~.:*:.YaSuMi.:*:.~ 6th December 2008 08:45 PM

poker face
GREEN
TO BE


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