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KarenPang 20th April 2009 12:16 PM

CDTV - Debut song that you would like to hear again
 
20 L'Arc~en~Ciel - Blurry Eyes
19 Perfume - Linear Motor Girl
18 ikimono-gakari - SAKURA
17 Kanjani8 - Naniwa Iroha Bushi
16 Remioromen - Ameagari
15 KinKi Kids - Garasu no Shounen
14 aiko - Ashita
13 UVERworld - D-technoLife
12 Janne Da Arc - RED ZONE
11 Porno Graffitti - Apollo
10 YUI - feel my soul
09 Hikawa Kiyoshi - Hakone Hachiri no Hanjirou
08 AAA - BLOOD on FIRE
07 w-inds. Forever Memories
06 NEWS - Kibou ~Yell~
05 Hamasaki Ayumi - poker face
04 EXILE - Your eyes only ~Aimai na Boku no Katachi~
03 Tohoshinki - Stay With Me Tonight
02 KAT-TUN - Real Face
01 Arashi - A・RA・SHI

you can watch the video of it via http://hope-rei.livejournal.com/23019.html

I love all the songs that were short listed out , Johnny's wise :laugh :smitten

you definitely can't go wrong with KinKi Kids's Garasu no Shounen , it's such a classic 12 years after it was released

that & also A・RA・SHI too

Zemus 20th April 2009 12:38 PM

Glad that Ayu was included :) Here is the full list romanized:

Spoiler:
20 L'Arc~en~Ciel - Blurry Eyes
19 Perfume - Linear Motor Girl
18 ikimono-gakari - SAKURA
17 Kanjani8 - Naniwa Iroha Bushi
16 Remioromen - Ameagari
15 KinKi Kids - Garasu no Shounen
14 aiko - Ashita
13 UVERworld - D-technoLife
12 Janne Da Arc - RED ZONE
11 Porno Graffitti - Apollo
10 YUI - feel my soul
09 Hikawa Kiyoshi - Hakone Hachiri no Hanjirou
08 AAA - BLOOD on FIRE
07 w-inds. Forever Memories
06 NEWS - Kibou ~Yell~
05 Hamasaki Ayumi - poker face
04 EXILE - Your eyes only ~Aimai na Boku no Katachi~
03 Tohoshinki - Stay With Me Tonight
02 KAT-TUN - Real Face
01 Arashi - A・RA・SHI

ayumisrael 20th April 2009 12:53 PM

Wow ayu's poker face on top 5 XDDD.
I liked NEWS' kanjani's and remioromen's songs and w-inds. sound so cute!!! How old were they?

I LOVE UVERworld's D-technoLife and YUI's Feel My Soul!! (and of course ayu's poker face).

Aisha_Angel 20th April 2009 12:57 PM

Wow...and I don't even like poker face all that much. OMG, look @ TOHOSHINKI! Their over Ayu? Wow....

Foxxy_Fuyumi 20th April 2009 01:11 PM

Where's Utada with Automatic? That's weird =\

KarenPang 20th April 2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zemus (Post 1909099)
Glad that Ayu was included :) Here is the full list romanized:

Spoiler:
20 L'Arc~en~Ciel - Blurry Eyes
19 Perfume - Linear Motor Girl
18 ikimono-gakari - SAKURA
17 Kanjani8 - Naniwa Iroha Bushi
16 Remioromen - Ameagari
15 KinKi Kids - Garasu no Shounen
14 aiko - Ashita
13 UVERworld - D-technoLife
12 Janne Da Arc - RED ZONE
11 Porno Graffitti - Apollo
10 YUI - feel my soul
09 Hikawa Kiyoshi - Hakone Hachiri no Hanjirou
08 AAA - BLOOD on FIRE
07 w-inds. Forever Memories
06 NEWS - Kibou ~Yell~
05 Hamasaki Ayumi - poker face
04 EXILE - Your eyes only ~Aimai na Boku no Katachi~
03 Tohoshinki - Stay With Me Tonight
02 KAT-TUN - Real Face
01 Arashi - A・RA・SHI

thanks I will add it to the 1st post :)

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Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1909116)
Where's Utada with Automatic? That's weird =\

omg yes man :O , what the hell ...

Kingdom 20th April 2009 01:19 PM

stay with me tonight <3

Hazuki 20th April 2009 03:21 PM

Haha~ That's a bunch of great songs there <33
No wonder people wanna hear it again *Q*

hearted 20th April 2009 03:25 PM

omg DBSK is in the top 3 :thud YAYY

Ayumi27 20th April 2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1909116)
Where's Utada with Automatic? That's weird =\

Yeah, that's what I was commenting on the other post
No debut song list is complete without automatic :no

KarenPang 20th April 2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi27 (Post 1909300)
Yeah, that's what I was commenting on the other post

No debut song list is complete without automatic :no

I 2nd that with you as well dude

ayumisrael 20th April 2009 06:03 PM

Yeah, Automatic is one of hikki's best songs but it seems that the japanese people who answered the poll don't care about it anymore at this point..

Ayumi27 20th April 2009 06:34 PM

Who knows... maybe the ones making the poll considered Close to You as her debut song instead of Automatic :shrug

TITANIC 20th April 2009 06:40 PM

No Ayaka I believe and STAR by mika nakashima??
their debut single made they BIG

KarenPang 20th April 2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi27 (Post 1909477)
Who knows... maybe the ones making the poll considered Close to You as her debut song instead of Automatic :shrug

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1909483)
No Ayaka I believe and STAR by mika nakashima??
their debut single made they BIG

omg yes man @_@

it will be for kicks if I see Ken Hirai's Precious Junk on the list like LMAO :roflmao

other worthy mentions :

- Yuna Ito's ENDLESS STORY (Harlow such a great debut ballad , it's a crime NOT to include it :grumpy)

- BREAKERZ's SUMMER PARTY / LAST EMOTION (for obvious reasons :lmfao :innocent)

- alan's Ashita e no Sanka

- GIRL NEXT DOOR's Guuzen no Kakuritsu

- Hidemi Uematsu's Dear My Friends / Trauma (super under-rated but very talented girl)

- Aoyama Thelma's ONE WAY (I'm still in ONE WAY withdrawal mode . I NEED ANOTHER UPBEAT TUNE :grumpy)

- abingdon boys school's INNOCENT SORROW

ayumisrael 20th April 2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayumi27 (Post 1909477)
Who knows... maybe the ones making the poll considered Close to You as her debut song instead of Automatic :shrug

But Close to You is under the name of Cubic U and it's english xD.
Automatic is considered her debut song in japan.

I agree that yuna's ENDLESS STORY and alan's ashita e no senka should be there, such great songs!

SunshineSlayer 20th April 2009 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Foxxy_Fuyumi (Post 1909116)
Where's Utada with Automatic? That's weird =\

CDTV is always done by internet poll, so the results of these usually end up being a case of which ever artists can get their core fanbase to go and vote the most. :)

ayumisrael 21st April 2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1909661)
CDTV is always done by internet poll, so the results of these usually end up being a case of which ever artists can get their core fanbase to go and vote the most. :)

So there are no artists with bigger (or as big) hardcore fanbases?

Rael Lockhart 21st April 2009 03:00 AM

Mai Kuraki's Love, Day After Tomorrow too. I always think it's her best song.

SunshineSlayer 21st April 2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1909744)
So there are no artists with bigger (or as big) hardcore fanbases?

I'm not quite sure what you mean? Usually with the CDTV polls, a lot of times the results are skewed to represent artists who have large fan bases on the internet; ie people who primarily have younger fan bases or more Otaku-ish fan bases. It's why Johnny's basically dominates every CDTV poll and why CDTV is pretty much the only place where you see Hello Project artists still appear. Notice also that all the Johnny's groups are usually the younger ones - for example no SMAP, TOKIO or V6 because their fans tend to be a bit older and therefore less likely to take part in an internet poll etc etc. Utada does have a very large fan base, however it is more spread out and contains more people that would be less likely to participate in online polls.

Hikawa Kiyoshi is interesting, but from what I understand, he too has a legion of screaming fan girls that would vote for him in these polls just like fan girls would support Tohoshinki or EXILE. :)

ayumisrael 21st April 2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1910217)
I'm not quite sure what you mean? Usually with the CDTV polls, a lot of times the results are skewed to represent artists who have large fan bases on the internet; ie people who primarily have younger fan bases or more Otaku-ish fan bases. It's why Johnny's basically dominates every CDTV poll and why CDTV is pretty much the only place where you see Hello Project artists still appear. Notice also that all the Johnny's groups are usually the younger ones - for example no SMAP, TOKIO or V6 because their fans tend to be a bit older and therefore less likely to take part in an internet poll etc etc. Utada does have a very large fan base, however it is more spread out and contains more people that would be less likely to participate in online polls.

Hikawa Kiyoshi is interesting, but from what I understand, he too has a legion of screaming fan girls that would vote for him in these polls just like fan girls would support Tohoshinki or EXILE. :)

How come kuu's TAKE BACK isn't there then?
(at least she correlates to the ages...)

And another question considering the topic (at least of polls).
How reliable is the 3,000,000 Vote Awards Requests show's Poll at the end of the year?

SunshineSlayer 21st April 2009 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1910371)
And another question considering the topic (at least of polls).
How reliable is the 3,000,000 Vote Awards Requests show's Poll at the end of the year?

From what I remember, its allowed me to vote more than once before, so I would say it's dubious. It gives you at least a general idea though of how each artist does across different ages and genders. Also, it is completely dependent upon which artists agree to come to the show or at least send in some kind of video message - I'm sure there are plenty of artists that get voted for that you don't see simply because the show couldn't get them to appear - for example, I don't remember seeing SMAP there for a few years now yet you always have a handful of artists on there each year that are barely blips on the radar.

I think Best Artist is a fun show and one of my favorites to watch yearly, but I don't think any statistician or what not would ever take it seriously. In addition to the reasons above, there is also no way to verify anything. Anyone can lie and say they are a different gender or age which some people do either to purposely mess with the poll or for artists that have a certain amount of shame attached to them. For example, it is thought that many Morning Musume fans falsified their data in order to make the results look better.

But finally and most importantly, there is no way to know if 3,000,000 people really voted, let alone 3,000,000 individual people. Nothing is said of how many votes each artist got (and performance order has nothing to do with the number of votes). All that is known is of the total votes that person received, what are the age and genders that they received the most votes from. For all we know, someone could have gotten 10 votes and 6 of them were women, therefore they are marked as having high support among women. (extreme example, but you get the point^_^)

Ultimately, Best Artist is just like any other music show - its more of a combination of who the show is able to get and who the record companies want to be on there performing more than anything else imo. This was really exemplified last year when Britney Spears performed.

ayumisrael 22nd April 2009 12:05 AM

^I see, thank you for the into ^__^.

Beauty4123 22nd April 2009 03:28 AM

LOL ARASHI IS #1! A-RA-SHI FOR DREAM! :lech

SunshineSlayer 22nd April 2009 03:55 AM

^ It's an iconic song. :)

KarenPang 22nd April 2009 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beauty4123 (Post 1911112)
LOL ARASHI IS #1! A-RA-SHI FOR DREAM! :lech

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1911160)
^ It's an iconic song. :)

oh yes it's :D

when they went to Korea to tour/perform , naturally they put 'you're my seoul seoul' instead of 'you're my soul soul'

& I love it when Utaban's Nakai & Ishibashi poke fun of the song without fail :roflmao

Instead of ARASHI ARASHI FOR DREAM , it might be :

ARASHI ARASHI OH YEAH

OR

ARASHI ARASHI WANT ME

:rofl

I'm still baffled (in a good way) on why KAT-TUN's Real Face's doing up there so high on the list O_O

has it really been 3 years since the song was released ? like wow

SunshineSlayer 22nd April 2009 05:40 AM

^ I would say that Real Face is an iconic song for them too.

And yes, next to H!Ps old appearances on Utaban, I have to say that Arashi's are the next funniest. :)

brand new love 22nd April 2009 06:09 AM

omg dbsk :bshake

A・RA・SHI always remind me of aiba's engrish

Mr. Goto 22nd April 2009 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1911279)
^ I would say that Real Face is an iconic song for them too.

And yes, next to H!Ps old appearances on Utaban, I have to say that Arashi's are the next funniest. :)

yesss!

it's those appearances that made me love Johnson and Kei-chan just to name a few :love i don't think i will ever get tired of them :yes i was hoping for like, an elder club reunion on utaban cause they were graduating but it never happened.. :weep

SunshineSlayer 22nd April 2009 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goto (Post 1911351)
yesss!

it's those appearances that made me love Johnson and Kei-chan just to name a few :love i don't think i will ever get tired of them :yes i was hoping for like, an elder club reunion on utaban cause they were graduating but it never happened.. :weep

Yeah, that would have been great. Most of the girls in the current version of MM just don't have the personality for Utaban.

KarenPang 22nd April 2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1911279)
^ I would say that Real Face is an iconic song for them too.

yeah Real Face's definitely an iconic tune . It didn't had 7 different editions for sale for nothing :dead2 & it was originally going to called Open Sesame by Johnny :laugh

He still doesn't like the title Real Face though lol

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And yes, next to H!Ps old appearances on Utaban, I have to say that Arashi's are the next funniest. :)
I always look forward to ARASHI at Utaban without fail .

Ohno Vs Nakai = win win situation

:D


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