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[Question & Discussion] Opening of ASIA TOUR 2008
Everybody knows that ayu broke the tradition by starting a concert with the "acapella version" of talkin' 2 myself. She only sang 2 lines of the 2nd chorus.
破壊する 事により 創造は 生まれる と いう 事を 君は 知ってる which translates to "You know that creation comes after destruction" Does anybody know the meaning behind ayu singing this phrase? I mean what's so special? Not too sure about it though. Was it that ayu felt that there is too much destruction going on in the world such that she decided to make a statement? :P I know it's impossible to get a correct answer, but what are your view. It is open for discussion! |
maybe because it's the best line in the song?
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I never really wondered about why she sang it acapella at first, i just thought it added to the effect~
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maybe its lik the theme of the concert, and its probably the most meaningful/main line in the song
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I am not sure about you guys, but i feel that this "acapella" segment after The Judgement Day kinda killed the opening. It sorta make the whole song sounds disconnected. :( well thats my opinion. |
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That means "This is my image changing" and them she releases Next Level :P
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ayu never start a concert with some acapella before. so she broke the tradition by doing it in 2008.
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^ Oh...that's such a random tradition.
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its not my tradition either. Do you have any comments? :)
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She started a concert with a capella on A-Museum :P
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she wanted to do something different and IMO it was good that way
I also love it that she consumed her audience by looking aroung Didn't she do a RULE acapella in NEXT LEVEL tour? |
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ok fine i missed out that one. my bad. :P
anyway, the qns is why did ayu chose to sing that sentence from t2m. Discussion? |
ok fine i missed out that one. my bad. :P
anyway, the qns is why did ayu chose to sing that sentence from t2m. Discussion? |
"You should know creation comes after destruction"
talkin' 2 myself - ayumi hamasaki "Did I imagine this kind of future? Did you imagine this kind of future? Did I wish for this kind of future? Did you wish for this kind of future? Is this the beginning? Is this the end? Did you give up? Are you holding on?” Are you shrugging off? Are you in despair? You tell me just to go forward" Mirrorcle World - ayumi hamasaki I've always thought the first and last song of the main concert as a question and answer kind of thing. :) |
i always thought, since its her anniversary, that line means something like "no matter what mistakes/hardships i've been through these past 10 years, im starting anew" or something.
well, i dont know if im wording it correctly, but i think it ties in with her 10th anniversary. i also got this idea because of the reBIRTH opening video. |
Yeah, since the main line of Talkin' 2 Myself seems to be that very line,
It sounded really nice too, it's a very powerful line, and a great way to make a statement, don't you think??? |
erm.... it opens the acapella nicely... it's weird to have sang... genjitsu wa... itsu datte~
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i thought Secret tour was started with evlution acapella too?
anyway, the AT08 is darker and i think what waterballoon said makes sense, t2m link with MW |
^ is that considered acapella, peco and princess are vocalizing in the back and the piano is still playing?
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I think evolution in AT 07 is more like an acoustic/piano mix... apacella is more like when you sing without any instruments, and with like other people to make up chords... it's kind of confusing imo... cos the most hardcore form of apacella is like having a "bass", "tenor", "alto" and "soprano" voices and sing. More often than not, the 'bass' can also be imitating the bass of the actual song.
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yeah that's what i thought~ acapella is without any instrumental accompaniment~
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Anyway, i dint noe there is link between t2m and MW. whats the link??! |
^ if you are talking about the evolution opening in AT07, it was not acoustic, if a keyboard is used it's NOT acoustic
And the link between t2m and MW was explained somewhere in this thread, I think on the first page |
I suppose he has read it, so I apologize for not explaining well.
Well, I think in talkin' 2 myself, when she sang that line... it corresponds to Mirrorcle World. Like 'creation comes after destruction', then you have 'Have I imagined such a future?'. I think it's a case of 10 years, and there's a new creation (a NEXT LEVEL ^^), and has she imagined such a 'future'? Remember back in 1999 she honestly wasn't sure if singing was her thing and all that... but now I think she knows the answer. And talkin' 2 myself x Mirrorcle World is the representation of the question and answer she has chosen for her career thus far. "You should know creation comes after destruction" "Have I imagined such a future?" |
I sometimes think that fans over-analyze what Ayu does XD.. I think she just did it to add effect to the song/concert and that she felt like it :p Kind of a repeat of A museum. She just wants to give a good performance (imo).
A Song for XX with acapella was 10x better than talkin' 2 myself and her voice carried much more meaning. Also Rule acapella for AT09 doesn't really seem to serve any role than as concert opener. (it does seem cool though~) Buttt with that said.. I like waterballoon's explanation too :P |
Honestly I think that only AT 08's apacella was on purpose to bring out a point. ^^
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^ yep, A Song for XX acapella was just too long and too random to serve with special meaning IMO and Rule...is just cool xD with all the lights^^ and Rule isnt really acapella, there ARE instruments, just not in the same parts ayu is singing xD
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Anyways, I really love the A Song for acapella, but Talkin' 2 Myself one is okay... and I think the Rule one is just to emphasize, "we won't follow rules set by someone else." etc. |
Ok! "Analizing using translation" time!
A Song for XX Why am I crying? Why am I lost? Why did I stop? Please tell me When will I grow up? How long can I stay a child? Where have I come running from? Where am I running to? I had no place to live. I couldn't find one. I don't know if I could have any hope for the future. Using her most iconic song to open the concert celebrating her 40th single seens to be normal to me :P Considering that when she wrote this, she didn't expect to be around for long time, having a 40th IS very special... And in the end, IMO, those lines of A Song for XX are stronger than the chorus talkin' 2 myself You know That creation comes after destruction Again, another celebration concert... To me she is just saying "time to kill the old ayu to create the new one that will be around for the next 10 years". To me, Guilty is the album she used to say "Ok, this circle of my life and career ends here...", and those lines from t2m are used to say the same thing on the concert, that she needs to finish that decade of singing in order to start the new one. Rule I don't need the Rules Decided by someone else Because we are the Rules I can't give way in that matter Isn't it the main theme of the album, the main theme of the concert and the main theme of her whole career? Don't letting the rules decided by the society to stop you from going further, or to the Next Level? |
Great analysis... just one thing. A Museum was for her 30th single, not 40th. :P
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hahaha :P |
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