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Mirrorcle 16th July 2009 05:56 AM

The Pronunciation of Some Ayu Songs (Out Loud)
 
Okay, so this has been kind of bugging me for a while. o.e

First off, "A Song for XX". How do you say that out loud? "A song for double-x" or "A song for xx (Saying the two x's)" or what?

And now, "+". Do you say, "Plus"? I don't know!!

I can't think of anymore at the moment, lol.

Picaflor 7/4 16th July 2009 06:05 AM

1. A song for
2. Plus

Loo-chan 16th July 2009 06:08 AM

^ I thought that "+" was meant to be said as "more than"? That's always how I've seen it written...

zyoeru 16th July 2009 06:14 AM

Yep. ASFXX = A song for and + is said more than.

Mirrorcle 16th July 2009 06:22 AM

Oooohh, okay, thanks. (:
(How do you guys know that? x_X)

maikaru 16th July 2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirrorcle (Post 2024059)
Oooohh, okay, thanks. (:
(How do you guys know that? x_X)

Whenever she had tv performance of A Song for XX, it is introduced as A Song for.
Also Album name for A Song for XX in CM is also A Song for.
Also, in Japanese, the xx is batsu batsu, which is like insert here in english.. you dont say batsu batsu, just insert the word, etc.

zyoeru 16th July 2009 07:50 AM

Yup, Maikaru is right, I've no idea about more than, but I think it fits.
independent more than sounds better than independent plus...but maybe someone Japanese can explain that. XD

Mirrorcle 16th July 2009 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2024117)
Whenever she had tv performance of A Song for XX, it is introduced as A Song for.
Also Album name for A Song for XX in CM is also A Song for.
Also, in Japanese, the xx is batsu batsu, which is like insert here in english.. you dont say batsu batsu, just insert the word, etc.

But then what about +? :s

NintendoHTF1242 16th July 2009 07:57 AM

^ I think some people have confirmed it's called "More Than". But I just call it Plus because, well + = Plus xDD

kendelle 16th July 2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mirrorcle (Post 2024144)
But then what about +? :s

I think that when RAINBOW's tracklist was first released, + wasn't a 'hidden track' and was instead listed as:
xx) independent
xx) more than

As the release came closer, "more than" was removed from the list and "independent" became "independent+"

:D

visionfactory 16th July 2009 08:54 AM

yup

+ = More than

C+R+E+AYUMI 16th July 2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Furashubakku (Post 2024051)
Yep. ASFXX = A song for and + is said more than.

:yes :yes :yes

Meat Pao 16th July 2009 11:14 AM

I pronounce A Song For XX as either A Song For Ex-ex (LOL) or A Song For. I pronounce + as plus.

ren0210989 16th July 2009 01:42 PM

i never knew the + = more than part. that's new to me :roflmao

but was the tracklist released by fans or?? since the title changed from more than to +, the pronounction should be changed as well??

Heavenly 16th July 2009 02:33 PM

i knew that for "A song for" and "More than"
but i'm still wondering how do you pronounce Humming 7/4 ? "humming seven/four" or "humming seven quarters" ?

jiarongisme 16th July 2009 02:38 PM

I pronounced A Song for XX, like literally a few years ago. But now I say it as A Song for. And I pronounce + as Plus too.

zyoeru 16th July 2009 04:20 PM

Heavenly, I just say Hummingu...but I'm guessing it's Humming Seven Four.

vampireknightzero 16th July 2009 05:05 PM

The CM would say A Song for.. so this should be the actual one.
but i always say a song for xx (pronouncing it as alphabet x )~

Delirium-Zer0 16th July 2009 07:29 PM

Humming 7/4 is technically pronounced "Humming yonbun no nana" which in english is "Humming seven-fourths"

the "more than" thing is unfounded. When the song was first heard on Ayu Ready, I remember people calling it "more than..." but i never saw that title in any official source. So I dunno.

zyoeru 16th July 2009 07:39 PM

Deli: But would Ayu really intend it to be said in Japanese? It seems to me she meant it to pronounced in English..but I dunno.

noidea 16th July 2009 08:20 PM

yeah, doesnt ayu say Hummingu seven four in concerts?

Mirrorcle 18th July 2009 09:11 AM

Oh yeah!! I forgot about Humming 7/4, I just say Humming seven-fourths, but I was never really sure on that either. D:

Please don't title any new songs with complicated names, please Ayu!! Q_Q

Delirium-Zer0 19th July 2009 01:24 AM

In Arena Tour 2005 she very clearly introduces the song as "hamingu yonbun no nana" right before the drums & guitar start up.

ImpactBreaker 19th July 2009 01:28 AM

+ is not the name of a song. The song is: independent+, which pronounces "independent plus". That song, which people insist to separate, is clearly a continuation to independent.

The confirmation that "A Song for XX" pronounces as "A Song for..." is in the CMs for the album, in which the title is spoken.

noidea 19th July 2009 01:41 AM

^ but why does she perform it without independent then? and when she performs it solely the title is + on the dvds and setlists, + is a hidden track, it may continue where independent ends, but it also is an independent song by itself(lol)

Picaflor 7/4 19th July 2009 03:47 AM

^yes. this is what I say

a song for eks eks (lol don't know how else to put it) however sometimes I do say "a song for"
plus (five plus five, not five more than five, but either works)
humming seven four (god knows why anyone would say "ha-mi-n-gu" its pronounced humming, or else it would have been written in japanese)

Mirrorcle 19th July 2009 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 2027892)
+ is not the name of a song. The song is: independent+, which pronounces "independent plus". That song, which people insist to separate, is clearly a continuation to independent.

The confirmation that "A Song for XX" pronounces as "A Song for..." is in the CMs for the album, in which the title is spoken.

Oooohhh... That makes sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2027900)
^ but why does she perform it without independent then? and when she performs it solely the title is + on the dvds and setlists, + is a hidden track, it may continue where independent ends, but it also is an independent song by itself(lol)

Maybe fans assumed it was a seperate track because of the previous album which had Flower Garden as the hidden track at the end and from LOVEppears with kanariya as the hidden one there. :s

naxxo.licious™ 19th July 2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 2027887)
In Arena Tour 2005 she very clearly introduces the song as "hamingu yonbun no nana" right before the drums & guitar start up.

Ohhhh i see. I thought it was said in english. Thx for the info.

U really are like an ayucyclopedia 8D :heart

zyoeru 19th July 2009 01:03 PM

So Humming 7/4 is Hummingu yonbun no nana, but on the subject of independent+ I don't think that's right imo... because if it was a continuation of independent, then it wouldn't even have a name...but I guess we're free to speculate. :P

Mirrorcle 19th July 2009 08:57 PM

Well, we'd pronounce it as Humming, I'm sure Ayu's saying it with a Japanese accent-thing, making it "hamingu", yeah? No? Yes? o.o

Picaflor 7/4 20th July 2009 12:32 AM

how the hell are we supposed to remember that? hamingu no yonban watashi kawai desu arigato mr. roboto?
I'm just gonna say humming seven four.

they say "a song for" twice in the video so its confirmed

naxxo.licious™ 20th July 2009 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2029049)
hamingu no yonban watashi kawai desu arigato mr. roboto?

:roflmao

panda♥ 20th July 2009 05:28 AM

I always say "A Song for XX" - I pronounce the X's out loud. I know it's not supposed to be that way but it's become a habit. XD

Delirium-Zer0 20th July 2009 05:29 AM

Dude, you're into japanese music. You probably have plenty of lyrics memorized. Is "yonbun no nana" REALLY that hard to remember? Honestly. I'm not saying we should pronounce "humming" with a japanese accent, i'm just saying what Ayu said. :P~

zyoeru 20th July 2009 02:31 PM

^ Yonbun no nana is totally too hard to remember. :O

Nah, generally I just use whatever 2ch shorten the song titles together. Well...sometimes it depends. :)

chloeM 22nd July 2009 04:57 AM

i've heard ayu called + as purasu~

Picaflor 7/4 22nd July 2009 05:20 AM

DON'T.CARE

just going to say humming seven four.
also for the record. I say "Kree uh" not "ku rei ah" for Crea

I am white. I am not going to pronounce every english word with a japanese accent cause ayu does.

zyoeru 22nd July 2009 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2031866)
DON'T.CARE

just going to say humming seven four.
also for the record. I say "Kree uh" not "ku rei ah" for Crea

I am white. I am not going to pronounce every english word with a japanese accent cause ayu does.

Actually...Crea is a brand name...and the brand name is pronounced cray-uh. So it doesn't change its pronunciation...so saying it kree-uh isn't not putting an accent on it's just pronouncing it wrong... like saying duvet doo-vet. :P

ストロボ・EdGE 22nd July 2009 06:19 AM

×× in Japanese is like having a blank, blank in English, so it is not pronounced.

Mitkki 23rd July 2009 07:15 AM

I recall "+" being referred to as 'more than' when it was first heard, however most sites list it as プラス when crediting it as an ayu ready? ending theme. Also, I could have sworn that I've heard ayu refer to it as 'plus' before.

brener 23rd July 2009 07:49 AM

I've always said "A song for XX", now I'm gonna say correctly, thanks ;)

asmAyumi1992 24th July 2009 11:16 AM

I know the ASFXX is pronounce as A Song For... But I like to say it A Song For XX(saying the 2 Xs.

For the +, I like to say it as Plus.

omably 24th July 2009 12:23 PM

I find it weird that '+' is pronounced more than, when I hear more than I relate it to this sign '>' ya know?

And I do say the X's allowed :headache

Lanz16 24th July 2009 01:26 PM

On the titles "A Song for XX" and "+" are pronounced this way:

1. A song for
2. "more than"

pommy48 24th July 2009 01:52 PM

Even yo-chan pronounce it as A Song for in the 3rd disc of AT08 where Ayu sing all the acapella

But I never knew about +! I always just said plus....but then again, i barely talk about ayu song titles out loud with other people

PinkShinigami 24th July 2009 03:29 PM

I hate the pronunciation of A Song for XX. It sounds so weird to me to say "A Song for" :roflmao But I think "More than" sounds nice.

And yeah, it's basicly from CMs for the ASFXX album you hear it, I don't remember how I knew More than though ^_^

Think about it.. if ayu called a song More than? Weird. It should be Plus though, I mean, it is what it's literally named? Hmm..

Namie♡TOP SECRET 24th July 2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2024220)
:yes :yes :yes


:yes:yes:yes

AyUta 25th July 2009 02:42 AM

Really? Wow, I've been saying A Song for xx, saying the two x's. Thanks guys.

AyuRox 4th August 2009 03:16 AM

this is all rather interesting...
I actually never knew the a song for xx thing. I always said "a song for ex ex". And I say + as "plus" and Humming 7/4 as "Humming seven four".

nanakopy87 4th August 2009 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuRox (Post 2047214)
this is all rather interesting...
I actually never knew the a song for xx thing. I always said "a song for ex ex". And I say + as "plus" and Humming 7/4 as "Humming seven four".

she did said 'a song for xx' as 'a song for' in her concerts while '+' is 'more than' in don't know where while 'humming 7/4' as 'humming seven four' in concert too

ohsixthirty 4th August 2009 06:04 AM

wait...didn't she perform "+" at some concert and at the bottom it actually had the title written out as "more than?" i swear i remember that...


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