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C+R+E+AYUMI 22nd July 2009 08:46 AM

[Rumour] Hamasaki Ayumi kissing her boss according to the new leaked images
 
Rumor of Ayu and Max Matsuura, it's coming from a Chinese media so i guess that their source is not so reliable ~

Hamasaki Ayumi kissing her boss according to the new leaked images

Sichuan News Network (四川新闻网) reporting - J-Pop Empress Hamasaki Ayumi have a very close relationship with her manager and boss Max Matsuura, the powerful president of Avex Group.



11 years ago, Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star.

«FLASH» had planned to publish a series of recently leaked private photos and documents in the latest version of the magazine, but did not print the edition after pressure from Avex Group and Matsuura himself.

A person nicknamed «Pupa» says that Hamasaki and Matsuura are still very close friends, and that the leaked pictures originally origin from a party in Matsuura apartment in connection with the million achievement of Hamasaki's debut album «A song for xx» in 1999.

At this time it was deep love between the couple, and even with friends as the spectators Hamasaki and Matsuura did not manage to keep fingers away from each other, and show their happines.

The relationship lasted from winter 1999, to the end of August the same year. In this period Hamasaki lived in Matsuura's apartment located at Rappongi, Tokyo. But the relationship was kept strictly secret, only the closest friends and family were aware of the situation.

In April this year «FRIDAY» magazine was scheduled to publish a photographic special regarding Hamasaki tittled «In the Chamber of Secrets», featuring leaked pictures from Hamasaki's new apartment located in Tokyo, together with pictures from a never published photobook featuring Hamasaki's former long-time boyfriend Nagase Tomoya. Also this time Matsuura and Avex Group prevented the magazine to be printed, but some of the pictures leaked and was later published on webservers outside of Japan.

A source says that Matsuura is furious. He claimed that it has been a series of deliberately violation against Hamasaki and her privacy. It is very likely suspect photos from Avex internal outflow, and it is likely that an internal investigation will be initiated.

Credit: Maxker @ Ayu.no
Original source: ruyki @ AMF
Shared by Ayu's Story



Honestly...the story is so old that the magazine could save the image of both. Now that Ayu is single and doesn't have a new partner they just need some gossip to fill in their blind pages.


afternoon update! here's the PIC!!

http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/...um_1a26acc.jpg

Maemi 22nd July 2009 08:50 AM

Oh God, not again...

RikkuChii 22nd July 2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2032181)
11 years ago, Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star.

This made me laugh so hard.

:laugh

freedreamer 22nd July 2009 09:19 AM

this has been since..whoa years back hasnt it?

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 22nd July 2009 09:22 AM

Old news...

pommy48 22nd July 2009 09:23 AM

Oh i remember that i had a picture of this, ayu was really kissing max XD, so it's not that much of a rumor

btw, why did the photobook get canceled?

waterballoon 22nd July 2009 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2032181)
11 years ago, Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star.

LMFAO.

Well... there should be leaked images then... but I really doubt this is true.

At least it's not Kazuyoshi Shimomura she's rumored to be with!

Maemi 22nd July 2009 09:35 AM

At least they're trying to bring more attention to Ayu and her upcoming single.

tokyoxjapanxfan 22nd July 2009 09:39 AM

even if this is true, i don't see how this could ruin their careers? maybe i'm dumb, but i don't see a huge scandal here?

Aggar 22nd July 2009 09:44 AM

next time , may be ayu and yo-chan or shuya cos they are saying becos of close relationship :P

naxxo.licious™ 22nd July 2009 09:47 AM

@tokyoxjapanxfan: Me neither. It was so long ago :o. If anything it'll give ayu some free publicity which might help Sunrise sales :lmfao.

"Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star."

:roflmao :roflmao :roflmao

<333333333333333333333

Yoake 22nd July 2009 09:55 AM

I hate tabloid newspaper. They always tell a lot of lies and there are none proof.

mcluva420 22nd July 2009 10:00 AM

i wanna see the picture! :O

MissElin_ 22nd July 2009 10:06 AM

Heres the pic. Creds Ayu.no.

http://ayu.no/images/news/3178.jpg

mcluva420 22nd July 2009 10:18 AM

^thanks o...O

Kodayumi 22nd July 2009 10:24 AM

One word: LOL.

njanjayrp 22nd July 2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RikkuChii (Post 2032192)
This made me laugh so hard.

:laugh

same here ^_^ Well even if they were in a relationship that's totally oke :yes

And that pic's a joke lol I can't take it seriously.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2009 11:10 AM

I have a better news for them, the Earth is round.

majrakun 22nd July 2009 11:13 AM

lol I really don't see the point of them even doing this D: That pic is so old. I was expecting something juicier. Boooooring.

AyuHamasaki01 22nd July 2009 11:20 AM

Chinese reporters need a life .... srsly.

AyuGAME 22nd July 2009 11:46 AM

wow...suprise-suprise...LOL
but its my first time see that photo, base on hair style i think its coming from 1999

Chef+Vanny 22nd July 2009 12:06 PM

ahh~~~remiscence of the old times...........:o

Ayu_Ready 22nd July 2009 12:12 PM

I prefer when they say she is with shuya okay he is not rich as Max but he is beautiful, him xD

PinkShinigami 22nd July 2009 12:13 PM

Seriously, whatever? It is quite normal with girls and boys kissing others, if they aren't in a relationship.. why is this so big a deal?

greenteadrinker 22nd July 2009 12:47 PM

I can't even see their faces in the picture... it's a party, people take funny pictures like that.

And even if they were kissing and in a relationship, so what. Not as if Max was married or anything like that.

ayuayu798 22nd July 2009 01:58 PM

They're really getting ridiculous with all these old rumours lol

SKYia 22nd July 2009 02:00 PM

That again? They are fooling us :p

maze 22nd July 2009 02:01 PM

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :laugh :laugh :laugh

What's next? :rolleyes

LacusClyne 22nd July 2009 02:20 PM

sorry, but ths happen 11 years ago...what's the point of digging it up NOW?

though the leak of this pic is suspicious, espcially during this critical time when ayu's single is coming out soon....hmm...

could it be....Avex leak this out on purpose for publiclity or like what the news said, someone betray the company and leak it out, even if they are not suppose to?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 22nd July 2009 03:26 PM

UGH I hate these stupid chinese tabloids

pommy48 22nd July 2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2032547)
sorry, but ths happen 11 years ago...what's the point of digging it up NOW?

though the leak of this pic is suspicious, espcially during this critical time when ayu's single is coming out soon....hmm...

could it be....Avex leak this out on purpose for publiclity or like what the news said, someone betray the company and leak it out, even if they are not suppose to?

actually i remember already seeing this picture a while back, so don't think anyone just leaked it now~ it's been leaked a long time ago

agashi 22nd July 2009 03:41 PM

giving her tongue?? for what?? a tenderloin steak???

Aisha_Angel 22nd July 2009 04:03 PM

WOOOOOOOO!

Max is workin' those lips of his isn't he? But it looks like Ayu went straight for the kill herself!

I think they've had something in the past, but I don't think they're still together. This shouldn't have even been brought up again.

Polyrhythm 22nd July 2009 04:50 PM

I lmao'ed at "In The Chamber of Secrets"....

SKYia 22nd July 2009 04:57 PM

Since Ayu doesn't give much reasons for gossips, the newspapers hang on to every single photo like that one, even if it's from 100years ago :p

Mirai Noah 22nd July 2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by greenteadrinker (Post 2032450)
I can't even see their faces in the picture... it's a party, people take funny pictures like that.

That's what I was thinking. All we have is this goofy photo... which proves anything. All these rumors are silly. :P

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 22nd July 2009 06:31 PM

i think they were just kidding...
haha

Kazeyomi 22nd July 2009 06:42 PM

OLD rumor is OLD.

And I don't trust in the chinese press anymore, it's just gossip.
Trash it D:

dreamland2.0 22nd July 2009 07:10 PM

hahaha this is funny!!

JackieRos 22nd July 2009 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2032181)

that doesnt look like ayu well i dont see it

Aisha_Angel 22nd July 2009 07:46 PM

Actually, you're right. It kinda looks more like Hikki to me, but then again, back then Ayu's hair was a lot darker.

XxCaRoLcHaNxX 22nd July 2009 07:48 PM

lol thats funny.

emi♡ 22nd July 2009 08:00 PM

So rude. I'd be pretty furious too. It's none of their business.


It just...doesn't make her look very good at all.

SunshineSlayer 22nd July 2009 08:21 PM

Honestly, this rumor has been going around in Japan for a LOOOOONG time. Could be true, or not, who knows. If real proof does come out one day though, it would be real bad news for her career. (most people would say that as a result of it, she received preferential treatment in Avex) If that is her in the picture, it looks like around the time of the Whatever period. The guy in the photo is definitely Max.

One thing that is true though, is that there was a planned photobook of her and Nagase of which a few pictures leaked in 2004 (and it showed her tattoo). Everyone thought it was fake because people were so against the idea of her having a tattoo at the time.

ayumimylove 22nd July 2009 08:31 PM

Hahaha soooo OLD!!!! look she even have her Poker face look xD

hikaricore 22nd July 2009 08:36 PM

Why is everyone so freaked?
So what if she likes Max?

taskinillusion 22nd July 2009 10:07 PM

Yeah, this is not the first time we've seen this/heard this.

zyoeru 22nd July 2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 2032278)
Heres the pic. Creds Ayu.no.

http://ayu.no/images/news/3178.jpg

Aww if that's Ayu that's cute. :love
Maybe they were together...that's not our business.

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2032247)
At least it's not Kazuyoshi Shimomura she's rumored to be with!

Jesus Christ, why must Kazuyoshi be brought into everything? Getting boring already. Sorry. :headache

emi♡ 22nd July 2009 10:59 PM

We're obsessed with Kazu because he is the Antichrist.


I think Deli explained this best in one of the older threads we had. It IS a big deal if you're sleeping around with your boss, in ANY profession.

zyoeru 22nd July 2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2033016)
We're obsessed with Kazu because he is the Antichrist.

It's really boring. :D

Quote:

I think Deli explained this best in one of the older threads we had. It IS a big deal if you're sleeping around with your boss, in ANY profession.
She isn't now though, right? And it's unconfirmed. :P

emi♡ 22nd July 2009 11:20 PM

^Is it? I never thought the direction he's taken ayu's career in was boring...annoying maybe. Considering that he's ruined a lot of her recent releases with bad representation...I'd say it's okay for people to care.

and no she isn't now (as far as people can tell I guess, we never know)...but I think it's pretty obvious they were.

Despite being unconfirmed. But whatever. That's just my opinion...people can believe whatever. It doesn't really matter...but just the fact that it's come up...and that there are pictures...where it really actually looks like her...I mean...that's not good lol

zyoeru 22nd July 2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2033031)
^Is it? I never thought the direction he's taken ayu's career in was boring...annoying maybe. Considering that he's ruined a lot of her recent releases with bad representation...I'd say it's okay for people to care.

But was a mention of Kazuyoshi really necessary in this thread? I'm not saying it's boring the direction he's taking. I actually quite like it. But it's boring to hear people go on and on and on and on and on.


Quote:

and no she isn't now (as far as people can tell I guess, we never know)...but I think it's pretty obvious they were.

Despite being unconfirmed. But whatever. That's just my opinion...people can believe whatever. It doesn't really matter...but just the fact that it's come up...and that there are pictures...where it really actually looks like her...I mean...that's not good lol
She won't be the first person to get involved with her boss, and definitely not the last. :P

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 12:47 AM

LOL @ pic!! :roflmao

douggn 23rd July 2009 01:50 AM

lol the Chinese media, something funny to read to lighten my spirits since my cat got let out last night and hasnt come back yet :weep

BluishDays 23rd July 2009 02:03 AM

>_< This comes up once a year I think lol

ren0210989 23rd July 2009 02:11 AM

lol this is all just so old ond over-used :rolleyes
so what if they kissed? and even if they had some kind of relationship?? seriouslly... who gives a damn? it's all soooo past tense.... :rolleyes

murasakinohana 23rd July 2009 02:30 AM

just some nonsensical rumors.. :grumpy

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 23rd July 2009 02:43 AM

I'd totally go for Max, he has cash!!!

chloeM 23rd July 2009 02:46 AM

so what if she really kissed that guy~

ownsarai 23rd July 2009 05:04 AM

It doesn't even look like they were really kissing in the picture anyhow. Chinese tabloids... :rolleyes

emi♡ 23rd July 2009 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naxxo.licious™ (Post 2033225)


Ohh, my bad lol. I just thought u were implying sth else lol.

lol I'd imply that just for the hell of it :laugh

see what people say.

LacusClyne 23rd July 2009 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2032867)
Honestly, this rumor has been going around in Japan for a LOOOOONG time. Could be true, or not, who knows. If real proof does come out one day though, it would be real bad news for her career. (most people would say that as a result of it, she received preferential treatment in Avex) If that is her in the picture, it looks like around the time of the Whatever period. The guy in the photo is definitely Max.

One thing that is true though, is that there was a planned photobook of her and Nagase of which a few pictures leaked in 2004 (and it showed her tattoo). Everyone thought it was fake because people were so against the idea of her having a tattoo at the time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2033016)
I think Deli explained this best in one of the older threads we had. It IS a big deal if you're sleeping around with your boss, in ANY profession.

both of you are right, i wasn't thinking too deep about this rumour yesterday.
but, yeah, now that i thought about it. IF they do have a relationship during that period, this will be BAD for ayu, even if it happen so long ago.

It is not right to have relationship with your boss, especially for a newbie. I can imagine the bad and harsh comments now. See if you are not an ayu fan, what will you think of her?
from an outsider view, it will look as Ayu seduce her boss for popularity and sucess. :shakehead Let's not forget that our teenage ayu is quite a rebel, she's was actually very fun and not bothering about her future when Max found her.
This is bad....Ayu's image WILL BE RUIN forever, there will be fans who will even despise her and leave her; lesser jobs oppunities, as companies won't want someone with a bad image.....


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Originally Posted by Furashubakku (Post 2033027)
She isn't now though, right? And it's unconfirmed. :P

even if she isn't with him NOW, but as long as they REALLY were together and more pictures or evidence come out in the future, it will look bad on ayu.

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 06:14 AM

Doesn't surprise me really not that I care but it is shady.

Who would take an 18 year old girl with almost ZERO ability to sing (vocals on ASFXX album) and send her to another country free for a few months to take singing lessons for nothing? It doesnt even seem like a worthwhile investment since she didn't even seem like a good singer at that time

Oh well I'd totally sleep my way to the top if I knew a record producer who found me hot even if he was like 50. Morals are a thing of the past :lech

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 06:18 AM

oh no..ayu's past is coming back to haunt her! :thud
is this what she meant when she wrote the line~"i wish i can forgive my past"

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 06:22 AM

LOL she's always been trying to hide her past, brush it under the rug & forget about it

I wanna know what she did cus it's oh-so-scandalousss!!

jimex289 23rd July 2009 06:23 AM

What's wrong with her giving a kiss to her boss? Kissing doesn't always mean uh...love relationship. And even if it was, that was long in the past, so why even bring it up now? No one would even give a crap. Not me at least. I think everyone is concerned with who she's dating now. She was 21 then, and 31 now. You do all kinds of things when you're young...

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 2033440)
No one would even give a crap.

Oh yes they would or else Max & Avex wouldn't be freaking out and doing everything in their power to stop these pictures & info from being leaked!!

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 06:31 AM

If they're in love, then they're in love..:innocent

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mcluva420 (Post 2033448)
If they're in love, then they're in love..:innocent

LOL the Japanese public will be like

PEDOPHILE!
****!
SCANDALLLL

I love our girl but brace yourself cause a storm is a comin!

LacusClyne 23rd July 2009 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evolution7931 (Post 2033443)
Oh yes they would or else Max & Avex wouldn't be freaking out and doing everything in their power to stop these pictures & info from being leaked!!

i agree with you.
in US, it might not seem that bad. But in Asia, if they really are in a relationship, this is a big scandal. :no
No one knows if they really love each other, so this relationship, if true, might just be scandalous, just for each other's means...Ayu is just a young lost girl back then, and japanese guys are a sucker for young girls, so this will look very bad on ayu.

i seriously hope that there won't be any more leak out pictures. :( I would prefer not to know what ayu did to get her sucess and chance in Avex.

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2033452)
i agree with you.
in US, it might not seem that bad. But in Asia, if they really are in a relationship, this is a big scandal. :no
No one knows if they really love each other, so this relationship, if true, might just be scandalous, just for each other's means...Ayu is just a young lost girl back then, and japanese guys are a sucker for young girls, so this will look very bad on ayu.

i seriously hope that there won't be any more leak out pictures. :( I would prefer not to know what ayu did to get her sucess and chance in Avex.

Yup you're right. I wouldn't mind seeing what really happened in the past. Ayu's always been about "being honest and 100% yourself" so let's see if she practices what she preaches if these get leaked. If she can stand in front of the Japanese public and say "Yes, I dated my manager, do you have a problem with that? If so, deal with it." then that would be so fierce and such a Madonna-esque moment and I would have so much respect for her

If she makes up some stupid lie then my respect for her will decline as she preaches honesty and not caring about what others think...

Either way I don't care if she dated him or not. Like whatever. I like her because she's a good singer & performer... but the general public will FREAK OUT and I wonder how she will deal with the situation

... hopefully it doesn't lead to a Britney-style meltdown

jimex289 23rd July 2009 07:28 AM

Meh...that was then and this is now. It would probably have more serious implications if that picture was taken in the year of '09, and not '99. Then again, if it has to do with her success and popularity, then perhaps the implications are just as serious now. She might have received preferential treatment but that can only get you so far...wouldn't be right to assume she got this far on someone else's influence alone.

Perhaps they are both doing everything in their power to stop the leak of these pictures because they don't want to be misunderstood...especially with the way people jump on w/e leads they can get their hands on these days. What can we assume with one picture? For all we know they could just be having a good time lol.

Bigtop 23rd July 2009 07:48 AM

Maybev we should not trust these rumors - it's only stupid Chinese tabloids...

ayu_ready? 23rd July 2009 07:49 AM

does the media wants to imply that she got to business through producer's bed??:lech

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2033501)
does the media wants to imply that she got to business through producer's bed??:lech

Yep

rakeru 23rd July 2009 08:13 AM

"also offered his mouth and tongue"... that's just disgusting! wow, tabloids will say anything.

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 2033521)
"also offered his mouth and tongue"... that's just disgusting! wow, tabloids will say anything.

LMAO it's hilarious and scandalous!

LacusClyne 23rd July 2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 2033487)
Meh...that was then and this is now. It would probably have more serious implications if that picture was taken in the year of '09, and not '99. Then again, if it has to do with her success and popularity, then perhaps the implications are just as serious now. She might have received preferential treatment but that can only get you so far...wouldn't be right to assume she got this far on someone else's influence alone.

hmm, but without these special treatments, ayu might not even have a chance to release any music, so it does sound like a little favourism.
Remember, her NFN sales are horrible, she's not a good singer back then.

EDIT: oh well...i don't want to think about how ayu got her chance, i prefer beliving that Max found her hidden ability and have to send her to New York to groom this young girl.

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 08:34 AM

^she was rapping too :laugh

SunshineSlayer 23rd July 2009 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Furashubakku (Post 2033027)
She isn't now though, right? And it's unconfirmed. :P

The point is, if its ever completely proven that she was, then yes it would be a big deal. It wouldn't matter if its still going on or not. As I said before, it would raise a lot of issues in terms of preferential treatment and then even the somewhat coup of Max/Ayu vs. Avex's board of directors and President back in 2004 might be brought up as a major issue as well. (the media would probably find some kind of connection between the two events) All would be to the detriment of the amount of respect for Ayu in the eyes of the general public and probably many fans as well. I've already seen several Japanese fans actually express that this was the reason they quit being a Hamasaki fan, even though its never been 100% confirmed. (as I said, this rumor has been prominent in Japan for a looong time)

@LacusCayne: Yes, I agree. :)

evolution7931 23rd July 2009 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2033544)
The point is, if its ever completely proven that she was, then yes it would be a big deal. It wouldn't matter if its still going on or not. As I said before, it would raise a lot of issues in terms of preferential treatment and then even the somewhat coup of Max/Ayu vs. Avex's board of directors and President back in 2004 might be brought up as a major issue as well. (the media would probably find some kind of connection between the two events) All would be to the detriment of the amount of respect for Ayu in the eyes of the general public and probably many fans as well. I've already seen several Japanese fans actually express that this was the reason they quit being a Hamasaki fan, even though its never been 100% confirmed. (as I said, this rumor has been prominent in Japan for a looong time)

Exactly

jimex289 23rd July 2009 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LacusClyne (Post 2033530)
hmm, but without these special treatments, ayu might not even have a chance to release any music, so it does sound like a little favourism.
Remember, her NFN sales are horrible, she's not a good singer back then.

EDIT: oh well...i don't want to think about how ayu got her chance, i prefer beliving that Max found her hidden ability and have to send her to New York to groom this young girl.

Yep I considered that point. In the end, you have to start from somewhere, regardless of how it happens. If not, how are musicians born? Even if it were true, it's not like he "held her hand" the whole way. I would think of it as a push in the right direction.

octolina 23rd July 2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by (me)JackieRos (Post 2032801)
that doesnt look like ayu well i dont see it

well u can't see the face right? but the hair looks like the a song for xx era where she wore a clip in her hair in a music video i can't seem to name. but just by the hairstyle and skin coloring, to me, is ayu. but no face how do I know? lol

SunshineSlayer 23rd July 2009 08:50 AM

^It's basically her exact look for the Whatever tv promotions. Which was released only a few weeks after her debut album, so it fits within the timeline of this photo supposedly coming from a celebration party for her first albums success.

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 08:57 AM

i think those party peoples r DRUNK!

truehappiness 23rd July 2009 08:57 AM

I feel as though it's one of those "Hey, we're not really kissing, but it looks like we are" photos that some people take when they're at parties, haha. I wonder who leaked the photograph though. They must not be doing well in this economy or something.. oi.

SunshineSlayer 23rd July 2009 09:01 AM

^It had to have been either an employee of Avex or Friday. Friday never actually published this article, and I think as long as they don't, the damage to Ayu will be pretty minimal.(if anything, cause this isn't exactly 'new') If Friday does one day actually publish everything they supposedly have, then expect a hailstorm.

LacusClyne 23rd July 2009 09:05 AM

^i wonder who's the idiot who leak this photo...i just wish that this fellow doesn't have any more pics like this in hand, i really don't want them to be leak....(>_<) Although it looks like they might not be kissing, but people will still assume, especially people who are not happy with ayu. noooo.....(T_T)

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 09:17 AM

-blackmail- ... D:

njanjayrp 23rd July 2009 09:20 AM

Prominent in Japan for some time now (where is the proof?)? Wow, is Ayu really that popular that the general public is still talking about what she might've done 10 years ago? Funny how until now people haven't mentioned it :lech

Well, I guess some simply live for making a big deal out of everything that's negative when it comes to Ayu. But don't worry, this will affect her as much as the ViVi book promo incident did. If things like this actually had an affect on her career I think she'd be long gone by now.

alternarist 23rd July 2009 09:29 AM

Quote:

11 years ago, Matsuura not only offered young Hamasaki a record deal, he also offered his mouth and tongue to the newborn star.
WTF LOL!!!

emi♡ 23rd July 2009 09:32 AM

@njanjayrp: No, but it doesn't matter because that's what the public in Japan will think, or imply.

Sunshine Slayer is very right. It is a really big deal, and the rumor isn't exactly a small one. There is some evidence for it, and it's not entirely preposterous, like the rumors she has stds or something.

@to whoever said that in the West sleeping with your boss isn't a big deal: That's not true at all. It is a big deal here, as I believe it is anywhere. I mean, what if it got out that say, Simon Cowell was sleeping with the contestant who won American Idol. I would imagine that would not look very good for either of them.

Especially if say, Simon defended the contestant and perhaps threatened to leave or something if she was voted off.

It's all very interesting. Let's hope there are no more pictures.

LacusClyne 23rd July 2009 09:38 AM

^i see, coz i was reading the previous posts in the thread, and most of them seem to think that it's not a big deal, that's why i thought it won't be that much of an issue compare to Japan.

ayu_fantasy 23rd July 2009 09:40 AM

This is kinda stupid... I guess they wanna tarnish her reputation just like what they did to MJ....

They wanna give the impression that her rise to fame is THROUGH seducing Max... Hence, they use a photo 11 years ago which couldn't even prove anything... This is stupid, I bet they are searching furiously for some bed photos which they cannt find... LOL

truehappiness 23rd July 2009 09:40 AM

While it would be a big deal.. I kind of don't see their relationship as getting "intimate" like that. Seems like Max is just kind of the father she never had, perhaps? I dunno.

njanjayrp 23rd July 2009 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2033614)
@njanjayrp: No, but it doesn't matter because that's what the public in Japan will think, or imply.

Sunshine Slayer is very right. It is a really big deal, and the rumor isn't exactly a small one. There is some evidence for it, and it's not entirely preposterous, like the rumors she has stds or something.

@to whoever said that in the West sleeping with your boss isn't a big deal: That's not true at all. It is a big deal here, as I believe it is anywhere. I mean, what if it got out that say, Simon Cowell was sleeping with the contestant who won American Idol. I would imagine that would not look very good for either of them.

Especially if say, Simon defended the contestant and perhaps threatened to leave or something if she was voted off.

It's all very interesting. Let's hope there are no more pictures.

I only said there was no real proof that the general public in Japan is even discussing this right now. And I am not going to take what SunshineSlayer said for granted. For all we know she was prolly kissing him on his cheek in that photo as his mouth would have to be on the very far right + even if she french kissed him, they might've been dead drunk. Considering none of us knows what actually happened there is no need to judge her nor her career, but then again some people simply can't wait for something like this to happen, so they could poop all over Ayu's head.

truehappiness 23rd July 2009 09:44 AM

It's kind of sad how a lot of fans fell out of love for Ayu based on assumptions.. oi. The surgery things, these scandals, etc. etc... no one really knows the truth, but based on the gossip and so on, people accept it as such when really, it's just speculation.

ayu_fantasy 23rd July 2009 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2033629)
It's kind of sad how a lot of fans fell out of love for Ayu based on assumptions.. oi. The surgery things, these scandals, etc. etc... no one really knows the truth, but based on the gossip and so on, people accept it as such when really, it's just speculation.

hahaha, That's exactly what happened to MJ....:no:no

truehappiness 23rd July 2009 09:50 AM

Well, I'd have to say that overseas fans seem to be a lot more optimistic, but I guess with all the people saying: "Hey, did you know that I heard that she.." in Japan.. it makes sense that people would be like that. A lot of the Koreans I know seem to somehow ~know~ that she's 'plastic' even though they don't really even know who she is. I guess her image just screams "PERFECTION" and that's how people rationalize it in their heads. I just chalk it up to editing and a superb makeup team, haha.

mcluva420 23rd July 2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2033628)
so they could poop all over Ayu's head.

LOL :roflmao

anyways, if she was drunk, she might not even remember what she did! "mistakes can spiral in the night"

Ayu - "haha..another tabloid.."
*reads*
"heyyy i remember that party as a celebration of my SUCCESS"
*looks at pic*
"omg...did i really do that???"


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