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Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 27th October 2009 12:36 PM

Will RED LINE ~For TA~ be on ayu's next album?
 
oh.. i think it's going to be a great song... too bad if ayu doesn't include it at her next album => usually ayu doesn't add some "special songs" to her albums (just like Theme of a-nation '03 and MW, TT)

so, what do you think...??
yeah, i know some of the fans don't like the title (don't judge a book from its cover:cool) but at least it will be great to add some tracks number at her upcoming album (it will boost the sales, surely)^^

sorry 4 my bad english...

so??

love in music 27th October 2009 12:43 PM

i have a feeling it won't. but we'll just have to see. i hope it isn't, because she rarely has b-sides so it's quite special when she does have them :yes

KarenPang 27th October 2009 12:55 PM

I don't know it's hard to say

like she didn't include Life & let alone Mirrorcle World in NEXT LEVEL so it's either a yes or a no for RED LINE ~For TA~ in here

ayuPanda 27th October 2009 01:10 PM

maybe it's a Ballad too......and than ayu had enough Ballads on her next album^^
I hope it's a rocksong *-* like t2m or until that day........than it comes to her new album
certainly

NintendoHTF1242 27th October 2009 01:11 PM

She probably won't. Since she's gonna include You know... and BALLAD already anyway. Might as well keep is single exclusive to make people want the single.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th October 2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2137571)
She probably won't. Since she's gonna include You know... and BALLAD already anyway. Might as well keep is single exclusive to make people want the single.

this :yes:yes

kendelle 27th October 2009 02:08 PM

Personally I think it is going to be a B-side, since it is a special track :yes

Plus, I'm hoping the next album will have more new material! xD

aura~ 27th October 2009 02:24 PM

I hope it will only remain in the single... it will make this song more exclusive ^^ and if she sings it somewhere and people like it, it will make them buy the single even more ^^ maybe ^^

TITANIC 27th October 2009 02:40 PM

i dont think it will be included because Ayu never include any b-side song into her album

AyuGAME 27th October 2009 03:10 PM

hmm...kinda silly but good question too, because the question make me think too...
i have feeling that maybe red line won't make it into album...

aqua_crystal 27th October 2009 03:17 PM

I think this song is going to be a theme of a-nation 2. Both music wise and the fact that it probably wont appear on Ayu's next album. Well, that's what I think :P

inspire_rmx 27th October 2009 04:25 PM

i hope it will be a b-side just for tis single so that the new album will have more new songs. but most importantly. for it to be a great song ^^ kinda wish sunrise wun't be in the album. not realli liking it still. but i'm 1000percent sure it's gonna be in the new album =p

freedreamer 27th October 2009 04:48 PM

doubt so. Yes...a theme-of-a-nation part 2 totally fits how I see RED LINE going to be. Warm and simple.

And yea, I foresee 3 ballads on the new album already with 1 pop song. SHE NEEDS A NEW SPRING ROCK SINGLE! lol...nowadays she has so few ballads in her album i wonder if she will even make anymore for the new album since there's already 3

waterballoon 27th October 2009 04:59 PM

I personally want RED CLIFF LINE to be just in the single, cos it'll be kind weird & hard to connect that song to a new album imo... and I hope it will be a good song! A boy can still dream he's part of TA~

C+R+E+AYUMI 27th October 2009 05:13 PM

I just say...it should be something touchy like Curtain Call...but i cannot stand no more the...

~For TA~
~for her~
~LOVE is ALL~
~take 2 ver~

please ayu stop!!

Ayumi_lover 27th October 2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ (Post 2137547)
oh.. i think it's going to be a great song... too bad if ayu doesn't include it at her next album => usually ayu doesn't add some "special songs" to her albums (just like Theme of a-nation '03 and MW, TT)

so, what do you think...??
yeah, i know some of the fans don't like the title (don't judge a book from its cover:cool) but at least it will be great to add some tracks number at her upcoming album (it will boost the sales, surely)^^

sorry 4 my bad english...

so??

first of all -why it's bothering you now? - you haven't even heard it
it seems like a random thread for me
MW was a cut-out single that's why Ayu didn't include it to NEXT LEVEL.
Probably this song as Life and Theme of a-nation will not be included in her next album but who knows, don't be so fast. just let's wait the new album announcement.

noidea 27th October 2009 05:18 PM

a) it is a b-side
b) it is a b-side
c) it is a b-side
d) ayu never included a b-side in an album
e) most artist, even ones that have 2-3 b-sides EACH single, don't include them in albums
f) It might be on the album if ayu isnt able to come up with 6 new songs and 4 interludes

kirei_ayumi 27th October 2009 05:22 PM

who knows?! most likely, I don't think she will...

Max_ZZZ 27th October 2009 05:50 PM

I Know what everyone means... such a title really gives off that it WON'T be on the album!
I too definitely do no think it will be included... but then again, it has an instrumental...
and songs like ever free and Theme of a-nation didn't =/
but... Life did LOL
Well, I think it's up for grabs. I hope it isn't! MORE SPACE FOR NEW SONGS!!
PS. PLEASE 15+ SONG ON NEW ALBUM x...x

brener 27th October 2009 06:00 PM

I think it won't be on the album and I hope so because there will be more space for new tracks....

Ayumi_lover 27th October 2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2137768)
a) it is a b-side
b) it is a b-side
c) it is a b-side
d) ayu never included a b-side in an album
e) most artist, even ones that have 2-3 b-sides EACH single, don't include them in albums
f) It might be on the album if ayu isnt able to come up with 6 new songs and 4 interludes

wasn't alterna and will b-side? And that songs were included in album

noidea 27th October 2009 06:24 PM

maybe they were officially b-sides, but alterna had a PV and an instrumental and was IMO treated more like an a-side(and it was a CV right? that counts as a-side to me, you dont mention b-sides on the cover(title of the single usually) which doesnt happen to Red Line and I didn't even know Will was released on a single xD

~angel*ayumi~ 27th October 2009 06:32 PM

Will was on HEAVEN Single^^

dreamland2.0 27th October 2009 06:35 PM

I hope she just leaves it as a special track on this single. It will make the single more special, like Mirrorcle World.

TeddyGrahams 27th October 2009 07:00 PM

Personally, why not? More songs on the new album, the merrier! But speaking of which, I don't think Will is a b-side. It had some tie ins unlike her previous b-sides. Maybe it's more of a lessor A-side, like Decision/Beautiful Fighters but without a pv. Well, we don't know if RL~FTA~ is really a bside until we see the next album list?

Ayumi_lover 27th October 2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2137813)
maybe they were officially b-sides, but alterna had a PV and an instrumental and was IMO treated more like an a-side(and it was a CV right? that counts as a-side to me, you dont mention b-sides on the cover(title of the single usually) which doesnt happen to Red Line and I didn't even know Will was released on a single xD

Will was on HEAVEN single, had an instrumental(RED LINE is also going to have instrumental) and hadn't a PV

noidea 27th October 2009 07:45 PM

oh, well, then I forgot about that one, but was there any other song like Will that actually ended up being on an album?

chloeM 27th October 2009 07:54 PM

maybe not... but i like the song title~

JackieRos 27th October 2009 08:19 PM

if it means one less ballad phew the no
i dont think a bside has ever been in an album

AyUta 28th October 2009 02:18 AM

yeah, i doubt she'll include it, but it would be interesting if she did :).

Crystal_Ageha 28th October 2009 08:45 AM

It really doesn't seem like she will. And if there's no PV, I think it's pretty much a guarantee. But I like it better that way. This sounds like it's supposed to be a special song, so it would be neat to only have it as a single's B-side. Plus! that means one more space on the album for a new song. :D

yamadashun 28th October 2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2137571)
She probably won't. Since she's gonna include You know... and BALLAD already anyway. Might as well keep is single exclusive to make people want the single.

You know...?

by the way, if RED LINE is an oriental-style song (like theme of a-nation, Will, part of Me, and, yes, RED CLIFF), i'm looking forward to it more.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 28th October 2009 05:37 PM

I hope that it's a b-side because nowadays we don't even get that many songs on albums anymore :(

rusuke 29th October 2009 02:30 AM

Please... it won't. Hoping so. If ever she'll include it on her next album I won't buy the single You were.../Ballad!!!

douggn 29th October 2009 11:09 AM

I think if it makes the album it will be due to time running out for the album

kiseki89 29th October 2009 12:43 PM

Now that you all have mentioned...it's likely that it will not be included in her album... it's a special song isn't it?

I was rather forturnate to have bought MW as she didnt include it in NL.

So i guess i should be buying the single afterall..

TeddyGrahams 29th October 2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2138529)
It really doesn't seem like she will. And if there's no PV, I think it's pretty much a guarantee. But I like it better that way. This sounds like it's supposed to be a special song, so it would be neat to only have it as a single's B-side. Plus! that means one more space on the album for a new song. :D

Or an Interlude lol

Kazeyomi 29th October 2009 08:53 PM

Nope its a b-side :shrug

Picaflor 7/4 29th October 2009 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2137768)
a) it is a b-side
b) it is a b-side
c) it is a b-side
d) ayu never included a b-side in an album
e) most artist, even ones that have 2-3 b-sides EACH single, don't include them in albums
f) It might be on the album if ayu isnt able to come up with 6 new songs and 4 interludes

g) one of the above :yes

ownsarai 29th October 2009 09:46 PM

Pretty sure it will be a single only song, seeing as it's a b-side. But, you never really know. Stranger things have happened. ;) But I see this as a single only type of song, it makes it all the more special, like Life. :)

Aisha_Angel 29th October 2009 10:13 PM

I would like to hope not, but given Ayu's track record lately it MIGHT.

I would like for her next album to contain more NEW songs, than A-B sides. I just hope the Sunrise/Sunset songs aren't on it.

zoomzoom 29th October 2009 10:35 PM

^I doubt you're going to be able to avoid Sunrise/Sunset on the next album, they're gonna get split up into a happy/fast music cluster and a slow song cluster.

I'd say there's a bigger chance of Red Line not being on the next album, but some b-sides still made it. decision, Beautiful Fighters, Will and alterna are some I can remember off the top of my head, not sure how many others there are. Of course Will was the only one without a PV.

rakeru 29th October 2009 11:27 PM

i'm thinking it'll be like teens, especially if she puts out another single before the album, which is likely.

Crystal_Ageha 29th October 2009 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 2140054)
...but some b-sides still made it. decision, Beautiful Fighters, Will and alterna are some I can remember off the top of my head, not sure how many others there are. Of course Will was the only one without a PV.

But those had PVs and weren't really promoted as B-sides. When songs are treated like those, even if it isn't directly said, I consider them more like A-sides. RED LINE, on the other hand, seems to be a full-blown, without a doubt B-side, especially since it doesn't seem like it will get a PV. So I doubt it will be on any album.

On a kinda related note, I think it would be cool if, after a few more B-sides come out, Ayumi would put out a B-side best collection. I love when artists do that, that way I don't have to buy the singles just for one song, hah.

Picaflor 7/4 30th October 2009 12:02 AM

I want to say no. and mainly because the fact that the song is a "thanks to all my fans" type of song (I'm guessing) it doesn't seem like an album type of song. idk, I just have a feeling it won't be on there. like having a demo song on an album.

ownsarai 30th October 2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2140136)
I think it would be cool if, after a few more B-sides come out, Ayumi would put out a B-side best collection. I love when artists do that, that way I don't have to buy the singles just for one song, hah.

^That would be absolutely amazing. I just love Ayu's B-sides, and it would be nice to have all of them in a collection. :)

jbrat2219 30th October 2009 02:33 AM

I doubt it... Teens and other b-sides she's had were never on albums.

asmAyumi1992 30th October 2009 08:03 AM

Let us pray for RED LINE to have in the album :meditate

sanzo2011 30th October 2009 08:27 AM

it won't be on her new album ! i'm sure ! i hope it's good as Theme of a nation 03 , maybe i'll think of buying this single .

Arenia 30th October 2009 09:45 AM

i have a feeling it won't...
let's wait and see ^__^

rakeru 30th October 2009 04:26 PM

maybe that's a way to sell more.... make people think it won't be on the album so they have to buy it now >.<

maikaru 30th October 2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal_Ageha (Post 2138529)
It really doesn't seem like she will. And if there's no PV, I think it's pretty much a guarantee. But I like it better that way. This sounds like it's supposed to be a special song, so it would be neat to only have it as a single's B-side. Plus! that means one more space on the album for a new song. :D

Sparkle had no PV when it was first released.
Anyways I have a feeling this song will be the ending song of the next album, if it is an upbeat ballad type song.
She really loves TA, and I dont think a song released for TA will be just on one single, and never be seen again...

But I dont know if I want it on there... if it's a really really good song, then maybe I want. I dont really care about A-side B-side whatevers. ahaha.

zoomzoom 30th October 2009 08:22 PM

^Sparkle was an A-side though.

Yoake 30th October 2009 09:18 PM

I don't think because it's a b-side and I can't really could see it in her album or as hidden track

Crystal_Ageha 30th October 2009 09:32 PM

Yoake, you just made me remember how much I love hidden tracks. I want another! :mad

ストロボ・EdGE 30th October 2009 11:26 PM

How are we supposed to know if it will be or not ^^; ? Something like that is unpredictable, no? Like others have said, I hope it won't because it'll make the single more special like MW's Life ( :yes ), but other B sides like Decision and Beautiful Fighters made it to their respective albums so who knows.

GRACE 31st October 2009 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2137768)
a) it is a b-side
b) it is a b-side
c) it is a b-side
d) ayu never included a b-side in an album
e) most artist, even ones that have 2-3 b-sides EACH single, don't include them in albums
f) It might be on the album if ayu isnt able to come up with 6 new songs and 4 interludes

you are the winner, I lol'd so hard

tokyoxjapanxfan 31st October 2009 06:00 AM

maybe as a bonus track for members of team ayu if they order through ayu's site?

but i don't think it will :)

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 31st October 2009 03:37 PM

^ oh i hope it won't happen.. TT

murasakinohana 31st October 2009 04:07 PM

It will probably remain only in the single but you might never know.. :yes

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 6th March 2010 12:03 PM

oh no....
we all know now that RED LINE won't be on Rock n Roll Circus~ :(

aura~ 6th March 2010 04:25 PM

We know it won't be on the main tracklist.. and it was like 100% like this... B-sides never get to the album so there wasn't any reason to expect this...

even though, RED LINE was used as the ending song at CDL, so seems like an appreciated song... the only way I see it getting on the album is being a hidden track, a bonnus... like "+" or "flower garden" or "kanariya" (and kanariya was a single so ^^)

you know.. it even got a dance... I see RED LINE with a high change of being a hidden bonus track ^^ we won't know until we'll get those tracklist with the minutes (I remember A BEST 2 Black with Part of Me being 9:00 minutes long XD and we knew after that there was memorial address xD)

thinkingoutloud89 6th March 2010 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 2140054)
^I doubt you're going to be able to avoid Sunrise/Sunset on the next album, they're gonna get split up into a happy/fast music cluster and a slow song cluster.

I'd say there's a bigger chance of Red Line not being on the next album, but some b-sides still made it. decision, Beautiful Fighters, Will and alterna are some I can remember off the top of my head, not sure how many others there are. Of course Will was the only one without a PV.

after all those are a-sides
I donīt know why people come to think of them as b.sides here and there

fairyland was even a c/w
the CMs always say "new double a.side single!"
so...yeah

Yoake 6th March 2010 04:41 PM

RL won't be on the new album because it's a b-side

SURREAL__RAINBOW 6th March 2010 04:43 PM

i guess it wont be cause the single needs to have something left so people HAS to buy it xD

aura~ 6th March 2010 04:46 PM

^music box and orchestra? hehe

Max_ZZZ 6th March 2010 05:07 PM

since when did b-sides not get on an album.

don't they ALWAYS, with the exception of special b-sides? or even a-sides, like the anniversary a-side Mirrorcle World?

it seems like RED LINE won't be on it because it was dedicated to her fans of TA

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 6th March 2010 05:10 PM

^ oh...
I really hope so~~

cause I think ayu usually include b-sides on the albums...

yeah, hidden track would be good~ :D

AngelSenshi 6th March 2010 05:18 PM

Considering it's a b-side you'd think it wouldn't be on the album at all, but since it had some significance what with it being performed at the end of CDL and all, it'd probably end up being a hidden track.

jbrat2219 6th March 2010 05:35 PM

I highly doubt it will be there at all. Buy the single. :shrug

Btw, what the hell is c/w? I know it means "coupled with" but when exactly does that apply? Is it like with INSPIRE, the single is named INSPIRE but two songs have a PV???? I dunno.

Picaflor 7/4 6th March 2010 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2266919)
I highly doubt it will be there at all. Buy the single. :shrug

Btw, what the hell is c/w? I know it means "coupled with" but when exactly does that apply? Is it like with INSPIRE, the single is named INSPIRE but two songs have a PV???? I dunno.

samething with fairyland c/w alterna.

I think it's just some marketing ploy. like "this is the A side, and this isn't, but look! another track! the Aside "comes with" a bonus song" or random crap like that. Really though, I'm not sure.

love in music 6th March 2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ (Post 2266893)
since when did b-sides not get on an album.

don't they ALWAYS, with the exception of special b-sides? or even a-sides, like the anniversary a-side Mirrorcle World?

it seems like RED LINE won't be on it because it was dedicated to her fans of TA

She just doesn't have many b-sides. Two of us, ever free, and Life all haven't been on an album. Also, TA doesn't just mean her fan club, she said in a diary entry that TA = all of her fans.

zyoeru 6th March 2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2266838)
... the only way I see it getting on the album is being a hidden track, a bonus... like "+" or "flower garden" or "kanariya" (and kanariya was a single so ^^) ...

The only difference being kanariya was a RECUT single.

aura~ 6th March 2010 07:29 PM

^well, what I mean is that even a hidden bonus track made into a single, it can't be that a b-side makes into an album? ^^

MW was an a-side and didn't make into the album... Ayu has done strange things with her songs... "Will" didn't had PV, but had a tie-in, and the single wasn't called HEAVEN c/w Will, and it was included in (m)u, and not as a bonus track...

RED LINE has a high % of not being in the album because it's a b-side... but it's an special b-side played 2 times in the CDL and that has a dance... I see sth special on this song, it's not a forgoten b-side like the others are... and that's why I think that it can finnaly be included as a hidden track on the album... it's just my opinion ^^

and I don't care if it's in it or not, I have the single, and the song in my mp3, I just think it would be nice to see it included on the new album ^^

zyoeru 6th March 2010 08:33 PM

Well, the difference is with kanariya is that it was also limited edition, also ever free is a b-side which was featured in a concert. :P

Picaflor 7/4 6th March 2010 09:37 PM

Normally I would say "I dont think red line should be on the album cause it wouldn't fit the genre/feel of the album", but then, really thinking about it. No song so far fits "Rock and roll circus". Sunrise, sunset, you were, ballad, redline. haha. I think the only way we'll know is to wait and see.

amorphose 6th March 2010 10:05 PM

Why do some people even WANT it to be in the album? That would mean one less new song. :(

Coelacanth 6th March 2010 10:36 PM

It wouldn't have made much sense, but they should have included RED LINE instead of Sunset. That song is awful, imo.

truehappiness 6th March 2010 11:09 PM

I think RED LINE could be on Rock'n'Roll Circus considering the "tour finale" nature of it.

Unless they want to force people who want to listen to the song to buy the You were.../BALLAD single...

aura~ 7th March 2010 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 2267126)
Why do some people even WANT it to be in the album? That would mean one less new song. :(

It's already not posible to be on the album as a tracklist song, as they already said which song we know will be on it S/S, Yw/B. So it's imposible RED LINE will be on of those 10 song that are still to be announced. So for me, I would want it to be there hidden, as a bonnus, not to take the place of a new song ^^ If they'd say me, if RL has to be on it, there will be 1 new song less, then I say NO! xD

AngelSenshi 8th March 2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2267343)
It's already not posible to be on the album as a tracklist song, as they already said which song we know will be on it S/S, Yw/B. So it's imposible RED LINE will be on of those 10 song that are still to be announced. So for me, I would want it to be there hidden, as a bonnus, not to take the place of a new song ^^ If they'd say me, if RL has to be on it, there will be 1 new song less, then I say NO! xD

Exactly! For this reason, I really want it to be just a bonus track.

y_nathz 8th March 2010 01:21 PM

I don't think so but I really hope it'll be a hidden track or bonus...

gallowsCalibrator 8th March 2010 09:59 PM

Yeah, it might be a hidden track, who knows? :P Lol, I hope so!

kiseki89 9th March 2010 08:53 AM

i really hope that it will be a bonus track... other perhaps a new arrangement or something to be done to the song?

waterballoon 9th March 2010 08:59 AM

I have this hunch we might get a re-arrangement or a different mix as a hidden track, and it's gonna be called

RED LINE ~for A WORLD~

YotaLM21 9th March 2010 09:30 AM

Oh dear god, please dont let it be...

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 9th March 2010 02:17 PM

wow! I REAAAAAAAALLLLLY hope so~~ :D

since she had got our fanbook right? :luv2

Raleigh 9th March 2010 05:34 PM

Doubt so. Her b-sides rarely go onto albums.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 10th March 2010 01:37 PM

^ but "Will" and "decision" made it~~ ????

y_nathz 10th March 2010 01:42 PM

@waterballoon : lol grammar fail but it's nice for us... if it's a hidden track :)

indyplus 10th March 2010 02:04 PM

I hope it will be included! I love it so much.<3 It would be great as a bonus track or maybe even as a hidden track.

Picaflor 7/4 16th March 2010 11:56 PM

Will RED LINE ~for TA~ be on ayu's next album?
 
Yes.

Bigtop 17th March 2010 12:24 AM

But modified album version...

aura~ 17th March 2010 02:19 AM

huhuhuhu but it is, I knew it *-*

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 17th March 2010 08:51 AM

say yes! :luv2

y_nathz 17th March 2010 02:33 PM

Yeah, I wonder how will the album version sounded like...

ownsarai 18th March 2010 04:36 PM

I hope it has a different arrangement. I actually had a small feeling it would be included before the tracklist came out, because it seems like a pretty special song to Ayu, so I'm glad it's on the album. :)

AyuWorld 18th March 2010 04:48 PM

maybe they change it into a more relaxing ballad? *0*

ermm...so much surprise and this is killing me seriously >.<

Heavenly 18th March 2010 08:05 PM

We can take away the hypothesis of just an "editing" of the track (make it shorter or longer for example), because it's clearly a new version. Maybe a more calm version, looking like Who..., or an upbeat version, like Sunrise.
Let's wait and see :D but i have the feeling that we won't be disappointed


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