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Moments PV...clearing something up.
So I want to see people's opinion on this...the Moments PV...
That scene where Ayu is lying on the ground...a lot of people think that's blood. I wasn't sure what was going on myself at first, but I'm pretty sure after watching a few times that she's being tarred and feathered. Albeit sloppily. What does everyone think? I really don't think it's blood at all. |
It never crossed my min that it could be blood. O.o It's tar.
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Yeah, but if it's really blood, ths substance would be red and not black.
The idea of being tarred feathered seems logical. |
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^ Can that be cited? If so, I would stand corrected.
Still doesn't explain the feathers though. Maybe her position as incapacitated on the ground would suggest some sort of injury, but it's still tar... |
^lol or before she died she decided to take out a few birds.
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I thought it would interlink with the lyrics?
"If I could flutter like a bird I would fly to you And offer my wing To your wounded back" Like she gives that person her wing, hense the feathers and blood. Like the wing has been torn from her back to help that person. So they both have a wing each. |
I don't remember which member of the forum said it, but he quoted a Japanese article that had been translated. :P
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hmm i thought it was blood, that scene was kinda disturbing though @_@
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I always thought she was being tarred and feathered!
It would be interesting if it was supposed to be blood though! |
It's tar and feathers....?
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I've always considered it tarring & feathering, no other possibilities ever crossed my mind.
If anyone can find the interview that was cited, with the blood comment, that'd be interesting, and it would kinda make sense with the lyrics. It could very well be that they changed the concept to tarring & feathering (which would be really interesting, and would be a very profound display of Ayu thinking of the song's subject as being above her) as a result of switching the color of the liquid around her. |
thats for sure not blood. but was ayu trying to use that to represent blood???
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i always connect ayu pv with the song lyric to make it clears..
i guess it describe about the shattered dream that pierced in her heart... that's my opinion.. hahaha.. |
Saru your interpertation makes sense. If anyone knows what tarring and feathering means in Japanese society than do please share, because I can not view an Easterns artist's music through a Western lens. However, with that being said, the idea of tarring and feathering, for me atleast, goes back to the American Revolution when the US citizens would tar and feather those deemed as tories, or traitors to the American cause. So please excuse me if I am not to keen on the whole tarring and feathering idea, because I do not feel any stong sense of betrayal in this song. I do not mean to offend anyone but I just like to know where certain phrases or ideas originate. Great ideas!
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In modern times the term "tarring & feathering" has become synonymous with punishment or humiliation. If someone says they've been "tarred & feathered", colloquially, that means they've been made to feel small or weak or embarrassed, as though they messed something up, and now they feel beneath those around them.
In the context of "Moments," this would come across as Ayu putting herself "beneath" the subject of the song, feeling as though she is powerless to help them as much as she longs to, and that she deserves punishment for this weakness. The lyrics do reflect this to some degree; that there is only so much Ayu can do to relieve the subject's pain, and she feels guilty about it. The pain in his heart is pain in hers; but even if she gave him the wings off her back, she only has one set of wings to give. Even if she blooms as a flower by his side, she can only bloom once before dying. Even if she approches him, he has thorns around him that prevent her from ever touching him. There's a tinge of guilt & remorse to these lyrics, and Ayu might feel she must be punished, tarred & feathered, for her human limitations. Keep in mind, this is ALL conjecture, I have no idea if this was the intention or not. |
I had heard before, also, that it is blood, but the colour was changed for the ratings... Sorry. I can't quote, though.
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Don't take this the wrong way Delirium-Zero, but I heart you, jk lol. No seriously though, great post. Like I said in my post, and you also said, there is a slight bit of remorse present in the song.
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I always thought it was tar and not blood, but I can see how if it was supposed to be blood, it better connects with the lyrics.
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i posted something about the article...*searches* but I think it was blood
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I have the article on one of my hard drives...somewhere. But I got it from someone else. Here's the original thread: http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread...hlight=moments Although to say the least, Ayu has not confirmed this or anything. I got this from someone else's post (forgot who) who got it from someone else that was supposed to work on the PV or something... |
If you keep in mind, that Ayus 'Moments' video would become high rated if she used red blood, which would result in Moments being played late at night, I think it's only for marketing purposes to make red blood black.
That's what the americans do to get a lesser rating for a show. |
I would argue that once blood dries and coagulates it does turn black...
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^ That's true. I don't think they were thinking that in-depth about it though, hah.
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Wow, does no one have a source for this article at all? :( Magazine? Website? maybe was it a PV shoot report from TA or ayu's official site? I hate not knowing where something came from >_<!!!!
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But anywho, I'm in agreement with previous posts - I never even considered that it be blood. I always thought of it as tar, though in actuality they probably used craploads of molasses, or something. :P |
I had never really understood this PV at all but at least now I get part of it.
I've always liked this specific scene but I'd never really given much thought to it... never even noticed that it was tar she was covered in. Just that gives it so much more depth, it implies so much as in what Delirum commented. Quote:
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I don't think it's tar. I mean if u you watch some of the live TV performances of Moments, she has trees "bleed".
It wouldn't make sense if the trees were oozing tar...at least to me. Ah, here it is! http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4964768/..._Music_Station |
Roflmao I never think about something too deeply so I always take it as chocolate.
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wow..thanks for sharing the article u've found.. Interesting read! I didn't thought that the substance was in fact blood that they want to represent. This all make sense to me now.. but so much blood??!! hahaz.
I like the wings/feathers part they mentioned.. Reminds me of Endless sorrow. =) I'm so loving this pv now.. ♥ |
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