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Yoake 12th January 2010 03:17 PM

Singer Ayumi Hamasaki implicated in drug scandal
 
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Singer Ayumi Hamasaki implicated in drug scandal
Posted: 12 January 2010 1609 hrs



TOKYO: Japanese pop princess Ayumi Hamasaki's record label Avex Trax, a subsidiary of Avex Entertainment, has reportedly been trying to transfer her management rights for one billion yen (S$15 million) after the singer became embroiled in a drug scandal involving colleague Manabu Oshio.

According to Japanese media reports, Avex arrived at this decision to prevent her drug scandal from affecting the record label's stock prices, though industry observers say the figure is simply too low to be true.

Oshio was arrested in December last year on suspicion of giving recreation drug Ecstacy to a hostess who later died of an overdose.

The pair were at a residence in the prestigious Roppongi Hills area rented by Oshio's friend Mika Noguchi, a prominent businesswoman.

The police are investigating Hamasaki's links to the case as Noguchi is her close friend, though rumours are rife that it was Oshio who directly implicated Hamasaki in a bid to save himself.

If these reports turn out to be true, they would mark a sharp reversal of fortune for the 31-year-old superstar.

Hamasaki was discovered by Avex Trax's current president, music producer Masato Matsuura, at a karaoke bar in 1998. He signed her to Avex Trax shortly after and she has been with the label ever since.

Hamasaki went on to become the only singer in Japan with a chart-topping album every year, consecutively for 11 years.

- CNA/ha
Credit to channelnewsasia.com.
link: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...030116/1/.html

KarenPang 12th January 2010 03:19 PM

O.O

wow the fact that it was reported in my country's Channel News Asia's website that's saying something

this's just well you know

pchan1986 12th January 2010 03:24 PM

wahhhh....

Suteisi 12th January 2010 03:24 PM

Woaw. Is that news channel IN ENGLISH? Because they use weird words in their sentenses... Maybe it's just me, but WTF? Lol Embroiled? Arrived at this decision? (No offense entended!)

Hum.... Ooookkaayy? I'm really not going to worry about anything. If there needs to be, Ayu will surely comment on the issue.

AyuGAME 12th January 2010 03:24 PM

i don't really understand what is going on...
but i wish the best for her...
as her fans, i need to put my trust on her...and i hope all of you do...

AyUmIXx 12th January 2010 03:25 PM

wow isn't this news already been posted long long long time ago?

noidea 12th January 2010 03:29 PM

Hope this isn't true...not that I would mind much, but it might hurt her career BADLY

Yoake 12th January 2010 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2211212)
wow isn't this news already been posted long long long time ago?

no beause the date of that article is : 12 January 2010 so Today!

Ayu_Ready 12th January 2010 03:32 PM

rumor anymore ? I think if she has this type of problems Ayu will talk about it let's wait..

Delirium-Zer0 12th January 2010 03:34 PM

We heard something very vague about this several months ago, I remember. We didn't hear that it was Manabu Oshio who was in trouble though - only that a girl died of a drug overdose while in a flat that was owned or rented by Mika Noguchi.

Ayu's involvement in the actual problem is basically nonexistant; it's just people in her social circle.

waterballoon 12th January 2010 03:37 PM

lol omg. This was reported by Channel News Asia? =.=" wtf.

Kazeyomi 12th January 2010 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 2211219)
Ayu's involvement in the actual problem is basically nonexistant; it's just people in her social circle.

this.
It's Oshio's fault not Ayu's fault. So it didn't concerned me so much D:

-KuMiLoVeR- 12th January 2010 03:53 PM

Oh no this news sounds bad (though Ayu is not directly involved in this issue) :(
Hope this drug scandal would not affect Ayu's career...

rakeru 12th January 2010 03:59 PM

And Ayu was involved in this....how? This is not a scandal, this is just a way to hurt Ayu's reputation. And of course, since most people don't bother to find out the facts for themselves, if this piece were to garner more attention then it could turn the public (and endorsements) away from her. Anyway, it's so stupid that we probably won't hear about it again.

AyuHamasaki01 12th January 2010 04:01 PM

I don't know what to say ... I hope she will be okay.

Misa-chan 12th January 2010 04:07 PM

What's this got to do with ayu? She just happens to be friends with people who were involved.. *shakes head*

Izzette 12th January 2010 04:14 PM

Why is the world trying to ruin Ayumi Hamasaki? Are they so jealous of her success? That is screwed up.

EDIT: Japan isn't an entertainment industry of sex scandals,drug scandals etc etc. Damn americanization is causing more and more stuff like that for the Japanese people. :(

ストロボ・EdGE 12th January 2010 04:22 PM

What does that have to do with Ayu? Just the fact that she's friends with Noguchi?

Mr. Goto 12th January 2010 04:29 PM

Isn't this all normal? Seeing as Ayu was good friends with her it only makes sense that the police would at least question her...or am I completely wrong here? Being friends with druggies won't exactly sit well with Japan even if she had nothing to do with that girls death.

alternarist 12th January 2010 04:36 PM

previously there was this actress, Sakai Noriko.. she was involved in a scandal and ayu was only assisting the police. she is not involved.

I hope this is also the case.

And yeah the bad news is, reports from Channel News Asia have some credibility. It's not a tabloid channel.. so.... :(

ExodusUK 12th January 2010 04:40 PM

Perhaps this explains why Ayu is sick and the tour news is delayed....
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=148

njanjayrp 12th January 2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2211257)
Perhaps this explains why Ayu is sick and the tour news is delayed....
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=148

Seriously are you by any chance trying to annoy the hell out of people here? Tour news delayed? How did you come up with that? :thud

polka-dot-jewel 12th January 2010 04:48 PM

It's interesting that the article was posted today, because this news is actually a bit old... well, parts of it are, anyway.

I remember rumors from months ago about Oshio and Mika's friendship and how it was a possibility they were doing drugs, and that everyone close to her (like Ayu) were being questioned by the police because of Oshio's death.

I don't think Ayu's involved or doing any drugs.

dreamland2.0 12th January 2010 04:51 PM

ummm we heard about this a while ago but nothing happened with it... plus it's a friend of a friend!?! I really don't get how this has anything to do with Ayu and why they feel the need to try to bring her down!?! Hopefully it will just all go away :no

panda♥ 12th January 2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 2211219)
Ayu's involvement in the actual problem is basically nonexistant; it's just people in her social circle.

:yes And it looks like they're trying to bring Ayu down with it, which I doubt will happen.

noisy_harmony 12th January 2010 05:18 PM

I just don't believe in it. Having the same friends doesn't mean that she's involved in it... I hope that won't ruin her career :(

Raiu-Ayu 12th January 2010 05:18 PM

To be honest I wouldn't worry about it that much. This is how news companies work. They see a title like 'MAN ARRESTED FOR DRUG RELATED DEATH' and most people would just go "Oh not again" and generally ignore it but if the headline reads 'HAMASAKI AYUMI INVOLVED IN DRUG DEATH' people will read it. Its just to attract an audience and the press don't give a damn who they destroy by saying things, they just jump on the whole 'freedom of the press' bandwagon

Misa-chan 12th January 2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2211257)
Perhaps this explains why Ayu is sick and the tour news is delayed....
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=148

Nahh, ayu's sickness has nothing to do with this. According to her blog, she just caught a bad flu. And nothing was said about tour news being delayed..

non3ko 12th January 2010 06:05 PM

Poor Ayu. Does the term guilty by association apply here?

I'm not sure how things like this are viewed in Japan, but I hope these 'implications' don't affect her negatively.

Raleigh 12th January 2010 06:07 PM

This seems a mixture of old news and speculation. As far as I know Ayu doesn't even hang around with those people implicated in the drug scandal. We don't see her with Mika anymore :)

Luja. 12th January 2010 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2211286)
Nahh, ayu's sickness has nothing to do with this. According to her blog, she just caught a bad flu. And nothing was said about tour news being delayed..

Plus, didn't she wear a mask in the making of BALLAD PV?
She was just, a normal sickness, I think this has nothing to do with this article.

I hope this won't affect her career in any negative way..

njanjayrp 12th January 2010 08:07 PM

^ this is old news...it already didn't affect her career in any way.

polka-dot-jewel 12th January 2010 08:16 PM

lol Exactly. Old news is old news. If this would have affected her, it would have affected her when the news was first published - back in, like, October or whatever.

oneheart 12th January 2010 08:20 PM

"If these reports turn out to be true, they would mark a sharp reversal of fortune for the 31-year-old superstar."
That line kinda scares me.

ayumisrael 12th January 2010 08:26 PM

Just a recycling and reviving old news with no proofs (or anything at all) that ayu has a connection or even knew about the incident. (even because of Mika, even if she's her best friend it doesn't mean she would tell her about every "fall" she would have or know about).

Isn't she "invistaged" since like September-October about it already? :P lol

As it already did a few months ago it seems uninteresting at this point.

SunshineSlayer 12th January 2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Goto (Post 2211250)
Isn't this all normal? Seeing as Ayu was good friends with her it only makes sense that the police would at least question her...or am I completely wrong here? Being friends with druggies won't exactly sit well with Japan even if she had nothing to do with that girls death.

No, you are right. This would be completely standard. Especially if it is true that Oshio actually directly implicated her.

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2211361)
^ this is old news...it already didn't affect her career in any way.

It may be old news, but it is still definitely an ongoing investigation. The case isn't closed or anything like that.

People need to understand how slllooowly the Japanese police move due to all the beuracracy over there.

ayumisrael 12th January 2010 08:47 PM

^Then the shibuya incident's investigation is still going on as well?

Since it's already like 8 months old but since the invastigation news nothing really happened with it =P

njanjayrp 12th January 2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2211374)
It may be old news, but it is still definitely an ongoing investigation. The case isn't closed or anything like that.

I am sorry but the last sentence made me LOL, how on earth could you possibly know that for sure...it's one thing to speculate, but you seem to be 100% sure. It obviously didn't affect her career so even if it is, who cares?

koumori 12th January 2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 2211279)
To be honest I wouldn't worry about it that much. This is how news companies work. They see a title like 'MAN ARRESTED FOR DRUG RELATED DEATH' and most people would just go "Oh not again" and generally ignore it but if the headline reads 'HAMASAKI AYUMI INVOLVED IN DRUG DEATH' people will read it. Its just to attract an audience and the press don't give a damn who they destroy by saying things, they just jump on the whole 'freedom of the press' bandwagon

Yeah, this is basically my thoughts too...it's a lot more shocking when a huge popstar is involved. ~

Even though it's all lies and stuff, and it's only Ayu's social circle and not herself..it might have a negative effect on her all the same..

"Have you heard Hamasaki's new single?"

"The one involved in that drug scandal? I don't want to listen to her music anymore!"

etc~

polka-dot-jewel 12th January 2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2211374)
It may be old news, but it is still definitely an ongoing investigation. The case isn't closed or anything like that.

People need to understand how slllooowly the Japanese police move due to all the beuracracy over there.

True, the Japanese police move very slowly (remember how long it took for them to actually get the move on about Ayu walking around in Shibuya?), but I think they worked on this case a lot quicker. They interviewed Ayu months ago. Whether or not the case is finished, I think Ayu's involvement is long over with.

This website may have just found out about all of this and decided to post it now, thinking it's a huge juicy story.

Bigtop 12th January 2010 10:27 PM

OH WHAT!!? Another scandal news!!? What's really going on? It seems like that my world of Japan seems pretty bad right now - JAL's headed for bankruptcy next week, and now Ayu's implicated in a drug scandal? Hello? It seems that this is not really good news - and how could it be from a reputable source!?

truehappiness 12th January 2010 11:09 PM

It's not so much "ANOTHER" scandal than it is a reaaaallly late reporting of an already blown over scandal...

From September 2009.
http://ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94181

I'm a little surprised that people didn't recognize it. It's rather obvious in that thread that some of the posters seemed to really want the rumors to be true though.

Bigtop 13th January 2010 12:21 AM

Could we just overreact now, or could we just calm down now? It seems like this could be a rumor or so, but I think Channel News Asia should really check more and double-check about this...

PoetGirl 13th January 2010 12:38 AM

i just hope it wont affect ayu's career

zyoeru 13th January 2010 12:38 AM

^ It's true she HAS been implicated in a drug scandal, but it's not really anything to worry about right now.

Moonstar 13th January 2010 12:39 AM

I live in japan and I can say that here there was never such news in the television!!!So here no one is talking about ayu and drugs!^^

truehappiness 13th January 2010 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zyoeru (Post 2211481)
^ It's true she HAS been implicated in a drug scandal, but it's not really anything to worry about right now.

She was... 4 months ago, and it seems that everything's blown over since then. [Mika Noguchi's blog closed at some point in September and only came back in December]

Her only relation to the scandal was that she was best friends with Mika Noguchi, and somehow that made her involved/suspicious. Since Mika's back on the blogging scene, I doubt any legal action was taken on Mikajohn. I guess a story like this was mainly posted to get a ton of hits on a news site (AYUMI HAMASAKI! DRUGS! SCANDAL! FRIENDS WITH SOMEONE WHO WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHO WAS ARRESTED!), but when you look at the facts, there's really nothing to worry about at all.

mobius 13th January 2010 01:21 AM

I'm pretty sure if this was true, and as popular as Ayu is, it would've been all over the news already.

emi♡ 13th January 2010 01:21 AM

God...why do people feel the need to defend her against everything, when she doesn't even need to be defended.

You know, people saying that it's still an on-going investigation and that she's being investigated, doesn't mean anything, or anything against her, just that...um the case is still being investigated.

If the case was closed...we'd know the case was closed because it would have been reported?

Besides, all the speculation about her having something to do with it is just as valid as the speculation of her not having something to do with it...because, oh yeah, we don't know anything lol

The biggest thing this article had was that Oshio implicated her directly? hah lol

It's obviously not really mattering to Ayu yet though...so, I dont think we have to care yet lol

truehappiness 13th January 2010 01:28 AM

It appears as though when Mika's blog reopened, she mentioned that because the investigation was still going on, that she wasn't going to say much about it, but that most of what was being said online about her and Ayu (I guess...?) were lies and that she denies all of the rumors that she was involved or that Ayu was somehow involved...

I guess in the end, this (in relation to Ayu) is all Mika's fault to begin with for allowing that client to use a property that she owned in an illegal manner in the first place.

Evolution7/4 13th January 2010 01:31 AM

Saying my prayers Hope it isn't true.

nlh192 13th January 2010 02:33 AM

Another rumor :)) I don't care at all

erika_ayu 13th January 2010 04:06 AM

omg all this nonsense!! WE STAND BY YOU NO MATTER WHAT AYU!!

kinix 13th January 2010 05:23 AM

I think the main story that Channelnews is trying to report is that ayu is selling (or transfer) her share fearing that her implication will affect the stock market of avex trex it doesnt mean that ayu is guilty of the drug scandal they used the word implicated didnt they.
Pls note that stock market prices will drop once a negative report is being spread. I remember the last time when the media reported that ayu n tomoya were together, avex's share dropped.

yuki_unmei 13th January 2010 05:34 AM

ugh, not this crap again :headache

tinka69 13th January 2010 06:22 AM

I'd still love her even if she was in league with druggies.

truehappiness 13th January 2010 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 2211616)
I think the main story that Channelnews is trying to report is that ayu is selling (or transfer) her share fearing that her implication will affect the stock market of avex trex it doesnt mean that ayu is guilty of the drug scandal they used the word implicated didnt they.
Pls note that stock market prices will drop once a negative report is being spread. I remember the last time when the media reported that ayu n tomoya were together, avex's share dropped.

Actually, it looks like they're trying to report that avex wanted to transfer their management rights to Ayu somewhere else, but where? This is reminding me of how the news sources said that avex was trying to remove Ayu's presence from all a-nation '09 material when that wasn't the case at all as she was present in all the usual a-nation '09 news reports.

love in music 13th January 2010 06:24 AM

Not worried :D

njanjayrp 13th January 2010 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2211641)
Actually, it looks like they're trying to report that avex wanted to transfer their management rights to Ayu somewhere else, but where? This is reminding me of how the news sources said that avex was trying to remove Ayu's presence from all a-nation '09 material when that wasn't the case at all as she was present in all the usual a-nation '09 news reports.

Yeah and that also turned out no to be true...Not to mention that yeah before even considering all the facts (ie she was very present on a-nation footage and that she had a regular share of promo for You were..., 2 concerts aired since and a couple of mag interviews - now that's not what you are supposed to do if you want to "hide" someone away from the public) some people on here obviously would love to see this proven true.

ren0210989 13th January 2010 07:01 AM

almost every bad news like this is actually about Mika Noguchi and Ayu is always like a tie-in because she's her best friend :roflmao

freedreamer 13th January 2010 07:18 AM

Wow CNA...geez. I hope everything turns out alright

emi♡ 13th January 2010 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tinka69 (Post 2211639)
I'd still love her even if she was in league with druggies.

:laugh me too :tipsy

VRGRK 13th January 2010 08:42 AM

If she hangs out with Druggies... that would honestly make me wonder if she was into some kind of drug(s) herself.. I would think she wouldn't want the negative attention (and choose not to be associated with such people) -- as it might (luckily it hasn't yet) negatively affect her career.

I hate to say this but you really can't (and shouldn't) believe everything a person says (or claims) is the truth, for all any of you know (and I am not in anyway saying that this is fact) everything that Ayu has said or even claimed could be a lie... and just for her image that she wants the public to see her as. No one truely nos what goes on behind closed doors... Celebrities tend to lie and fabricate on many things -- Ayu certainly would be no exception to this either.

truehappiness 13th January 2010 09:03 AM

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I hate to say this but you really can't (and shouldn't) believe everything a person says (or claims) is the truth, for all any of you know (and I am not in anyway saying that this is fact) everything that Ayu has said or even claimed could be a lie... and just for her image that she wants the public to see her as. No one truely nos what goes on behind closed doors... Celebrities tend to lie and fabricate on many things -- Ayu certainly would be no exception to this either.
I don't think this necessarily has anything to do with this article since Ayu's never really commented on the issue. However, to comment on what you've said, I think that most fans trust her to some degree and until she is caught lying about something, they'll continue to trust her. In fact, she's been quite honest according to some of her diaries, as she was the first to break the news that she had broken up with her boyfriend and that she lost the ability to hear in her left ear before any tabloids got a hold of the stories.

You can't really go through life suspecting that everything that everyone says is a lie. Because there are good people out there contrary to popular belief. I think that one should at least try to look on the bright side of things and have faith that perhaps other people are being as honest as they can be until proven otherwise.

VRGRK 13th January 2010 09:12 AM

^ I have very much aware of this.. but you also can't go on in life believing every little thing you hear on the news or from a persons mouth.. sometimes its better to do research for yourself so that you can form your own opinion on the subject in question.

njanjayrp 13th January 2010 09:44 AM

^ you can't hide drug and alcohol problems for too long, if Ayu actually had any of the two problems it would show after all these years, remember the SMAP scandal? Sooner or later she would make a mistake and people would know for sure if she had a problem or not. Her tours and appearances/activities have never been canceled due to her private issues.

aqua_crystal 13th January 2010 11:01 AM

Since there's been so many "scandals" against her in the recent past, I'm starting to get a little worried here. Something's definitely wrong. Maybe there really is something going on with Ayu and avex? Or maybe someone's just out to get her? This isn't normal, at all.

My Rainbow 13th January 2010 11:16 AM

lol

stop freaking out...:o

kendelle 13th January 2010 11:17 AM

It shouldn't harm her reputation much, let's all try not to panic! xD

It sounds like the media think Oshio was trying to shift his guilt...poor Ayu though...I hope the drama hasn't ruined her relationship with her friends. I don't think it will affect Ayu's sales in the long term but Avex are just paranoid. They love their money!

errikkutrancex 13th January 2010 11:19 AM

most of artists take drug so I do not see the problem... it is sure she takes hard drug for herself, beacuse it is impossible to make such a lot oh shows for a normal human being. This is not our concern...

~X2RADialbomber~ 13th January 2010 11:32 AM

Of course she's on drugs. Have you heard "Bold & Delicious"?! :P

AyuWorld 13th January 2010 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by erika_ayu (Post 2211578)
omg all this nonsense!! WE STAND BY YOU NO MATTER WHAT AYU!!

yeah,i'm just sick of all this :thud

cabomba 13th January 2010 12:20 PM

I first learned of the news 2 days ago when it appeared in my local newspaper "Lian He Zhao Bao", that the police strongly believes her high possibility of taking drugs. Man, I hope the rumours are false and will die down soon and the police better be quick in their investigation to find out the truth soon and stop pressurizing ayu!

tetsuo69 13th January 2010 12:58 PM

I dont think shes in drugs but she should consider who shes friends with next time

k21sh3n 13th January 2010 03:39 PM

is it just a coincidence that every time this kind of news appears she wrote on her blog that she's sick (catch a cold) and resting at home? Like when this news arise again and she posted a message on 12 January that she's sick. It's interesting :) if I'm not mistaken it happened before.. but maybe it's just a coincidence since it only happened twice..

mobius 13th January 2010 08:52 PM

^ I think she was flying to Las Vegas last time this rumor broke out not sick.

Maemi 13th January 2010 11:21 PM

Noriko Sakai and now Ayu...:( Well, I hope it's just a rumour as always^^

truehappiness 13th January 2010 11:21 PM

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Like when this news arise again and she posted a message on 12 January that she's sick.
I believe she posted the message before the news article was posted.

TeamAyu: 12th January, 2010 3:06am (Japan time)
Article: 12 January 2010 4:09pm (Singaporean time)

There's an hour or so difference between the two (Singapore is an hour behind Tokyo), but Ayu posted that she was sick nearly half a day before the article came out, so it's definitely just coincidence imo.

behwatch 13th January 2010 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Neffiline (Post 2211210)
Woaw. Is that news channel IN ENGLISH? Because they use weird words in their sentenses... Maybe it's just me, but WTF? Lol Embroiled? Arrived at this decision? (No offense entended!)

Hum.... Ooookkaayy? I'm really not going to worry about anything. If there needs to be, Ayu will surely comment on the issue.

Just want to clarify that CNA is using British english and not American english this is what we Singaporeans learn haha...

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2212211)
I believe she posted the message before the news article was posted.

TeamAyu: 12th January, 2010 3:06am (Japan time)
Article: 12 January 2010 4:09pm (Singaporean time)

There's a two hour or so difference between the two, but Ayu posted that she was sick nearly half a day before the article came out, so it's definitely just coincidence imo.

Singapore is exactly one hour later than japan so Singapore CNA posted 11hours later than Ayu. It is not 2 hour of difference. ;)


For me i dont believe any article unless there is a strong evidence... Some news in Singapore are wrong and no one notice it haha... thats why i have been watching japanese news instead of singapore news lolz...

miskiq 14th January 2010 12:40 AM

but it kind of weird to have CNA covering this story even its from last yr

more news actually coming from the the Chinese press
http://news.baidu.com/ns?cl=2&rn=20&tn=news&word=滨崎步

truehappiness 14th January 2010 01:17 AM

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Singapore is exactly one hour later than japan so Singapore CNA posted 11hours later than Ayu. It is not 2 hour of difference.
The time difference was what I was talking about not the time inbetween the posted dates. And it is one hour, so I will correct it.

behwatch 14th January 2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2212310)
The time difference was what I was talking about not the time inbetween the posted dates. And it is one hour, so I will correct it.

haha no problem :) now i understand lolz

AyUta 14th January 2010 05:01 AM

I don't understand what's going on either. What do they mean? They were trying to sell ayu out?

truehappiness 14th January 2010 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 2212453)
I don't understand what's going on either. What do they mean? They were trying to sell ayu out?

The way it's written, it sounds like it's mainly speculation that avex was trying to sell off management rights to Ayu in fear of their stock going down because of the association to the drug scandal which was first mentioned 4 months ago. However, unnamed "industry observers" say that the amount of money they were trying to sell the rights for was too low. (? at this since avex probably wouldn't act on rumors/speculation/tabloids...)

I wonder just where this speculation comes from sometimes. Does someone actually find the information from an insider at avex or do they just get drunk with a few other reporter buddies and use whatever sounds most ridiculous? "Hey! Maybe we should print another Ayu pregnancy rumor!" "Brilliant."

VRGRK 14th January 2010 06:11 AM

^ hahaha that is just funny...

Sandre 14th January 2010 06:24 AM

Confused.
When did Ayu involve in drug scandal? It's so sudden.

Misa-chan 14th January 2010 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2212490)
The way it's written, it sounds like it's mainly speculation that avex was trying to sell off management rights to Ayu in fear of their stock going down because of the association to the drug scandal which was first mentioned 4 months ago. However, unnamed "industry observers" say that the amount of money they were trying to sell the rights for was too low. (? at this since avex probably wouldn't act on rumors/speculation/tabloids...)

Yeah. I thought it funny, how they're selling ayu off for an amount she could easily earn back in a year. Won't they lose money in the end? :P

emi♡ 14th January 2010 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2212211)
I believe she posted the message before the news article was posted.

TeamAyu: 12th January, 2010 3:06am (Japan time)
Article: 12 January 2010 4:09pm (Singaporean time)

There's an hour or so difference between the two (Singapore is an hour behind Tokyo), but Ayu posted that she was sick nearly half a day before the article came out, so it's definitely just coincidence imo.

not saying that I want her to be in drugs or something lol

but just because she said she was sick before the article was officially published...doesn't really mean anything lol

her team is most likely getting a ton of calls about it and they probably knew they were going to say something lol

truehappiness 14th January 2010 07:33 AM

I doubt they were getting calls about it. This was already reported in Japanese news (was it even Japanese news? For the most part, a lot of the posts in September were just Asian news sites.), just with some names filled in and the avex-selling-Ayu-off speculation added in. It reminds me of TMZ but with a trashier feel to it. And TMZ's pretty trashy.

The reason why I said that was because someone mentioned how it seemed strange that she was sick and "stayed home" (she mentioned that she was sick but still working) after the article was published, but that wasn't the case. Sometimes people seem to read too much into things. However, it does seem pretty weird. She said she was sick a few days before the news broke in the first week of September, on the 3rd-5th, and the "scandal" came about 2 or 3 days after. Who knows, maybe they love scheduling these articles around when she's sick? Damn those reporters!

And those lols? This isn't a very funny topic, imo.

C+R+E+AYUMI 14th January 2010 07:45 AM

again Noguchi's name next to drug

Mayayu 14th January 2010 09:39 AM

i hope Mika Noguchi isn't having a bad influence on Ayu (>_<)

anyway, sounds like name dropping. Ayu knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who does drug.... no big deal, right?

AyuWorld 14th January 2010 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2212525)
The reason why I said that was because someone mentioned how it seemed strange that she was sick and "stayed home" (she mentioned that she was sick but still working) after the article was published, but that wasn't the case. Sometimes people seem to read too much into things. However, it does seem pretty weird. She said she was sick a few days before the news broke in the first week of September, on the 3rd-5th, and the "scandal" came about 2 or 3 days after. Who knows, maybe they love scheduling these articles around when she's sick? Damn those reporters!

yea,i agree,seems like they just wanna make it a hot news to attract people :o
in fact i cant see any signs that ayu's taking drugs or whatever.she even enjoy her life with her staff even she had filmed a new CM and what's interesting is when they mentioned about her #1 streak for consecutive 12 years,using this new record and then just blend it with drug related news seems nothing to me :o what a lame news! peoples always didnt really comfortable with the successful of others and love to ruin their reputation :irked

Midori-chan 14th January 2010 01:11 PM

There were some news of this a few months ago, but Ayu has got nothing to do with it!!
Only because she is friend with someone who is involved, makes her suspicious?
Oh, please!

Stupid! Really!
Come on, Ayu is far too intelligent for doing such a thing! -.-''

I wonder how long Ayu needs to go on suffering, until people let her live her life in peace!!!

kiseki89 14th January 2010 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2211207)
O.O

wow the fact that it was reported in my country's Channel News Asia's website that's saying something

this's just well you know

:yes
anyway i thought this new is rather old?

greenteadrinker 14th January 2010 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kiseki89 (Post 2212728)
:yes
anyway i thought this new is rather old?

Yes, this is very old news. There was a super long thread discussing this in AHS. We first heard about it in Aug/Sept, after Noriko Sakai's arrest. The Japanese government then raided Avex's office, on the pretext of Ayu's "traffic violation" in Shibuya cos of her book launch but we all know they were looking for evidence of drug use amongst Avex employees. They didn't find anything but the tabloids printed articles about Ayu's so-called "involvement" because her friend Mika Nogouchi (Peach John owner) was brought in for questioning as someone died of drug overdose at a party of Mika's tenant. The media also speculated about Ayu's involvement because she once made enquiries about buying an apartment Noriko Sakai once owned.

So the gist of the story is basically that Ayu's "involved" because she knows someone who knows someone who took drugs and that she once enquired about Noriko Sakai's apartment. Which is really silly because just about everyone in the industry probably knows someone else who takes drugs.

All a bunch of tabloid bull. If they had any evidence at all, she'd have been arrested by now, just like how a bunch of other pple in Japanese entertainment have been.

Having said that, this isn't necessarily bad publicity. "Ayumi Hamasaki" is now the number 1 most searched topic on Yahoo Singapore. And right next to the CNA article are pictures of the NEXT LEVEL cover.

SunshineSlayer 14th January 2010 03:32 PM

^ Pretty much what you said, except it is not actually a tabloid story - this isn't just something totally made up, it's an actual case. Also, we don't know what if anything the Japanese police found at Avex. Like I said, if something was found, it wouldn't surprise me if it took years to come to light (either about Ayu or anyone else in Avex) unless the police come up with some kind of smoking bullet.

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2211383)
I am sorry but the last sentence made me LOL, how on earth could you possibly know that for sure...it's one thing to speculate, but you seem to be 100% sure. It obviously didn't affect her career so even if it is, who cares?

Because there would be news reports all over Japan if the case had actually been finished, but there are not. All you hear about in Japan is how these investigations are ongoing and that between this and the Sakai case, lots of people in the entertainment industry have been implicated, but nothing is finalized yet. (and with all the money that are behind the companies that are implicated it will probably be a long time, if ever, that anything actually happens) That does not mean that people want it to be true. That's about the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It simply means they are not in denial about it and understand what the implications to her career are if the story ever really blows up.

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 2211504)

You know, people saying that it's still an on-going investigation and that she's being investigated, doesn't mean anything, or anything against her, just that...um the case is still being investigated.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2211507)
It appears as though when Mika's blog reopened, she mentioned that because the investigation was still going on, that she wasn't going to say much about it


njanjayrp 14th January 2010 07:24 PM

^ there would be news and reports assuming there was actually something to report in the first place, which we don't know and people who are supposedly not in denial obviously for some reason strongly believe that there is.

So I was wondering if you think that AVEX would let her plan a new tour and release an album if there was a remote possibility that it could be proven she was involved in this "scandal"?

SunshineSlayer 14th January 2010 09:37 PM

^ All I'm saying is, this is not a tabloid story and it is a current ongoing investigation. Whether Ayu is really involved, who knows? But even just being associated with drugs in Japan can be something that is very damaging. Right now you don't see it on the front page of newspapers because there is nothing new to report, but that certainly doesn't mean that it isn't still going on behind the scenes and that it is not going to pop up again later (and bigger).

And yes, of course Avex would. Whether she is involved or not, they are going to want to get as much money out of her while they still can.

njanjayrp 14th January 2010 09:44 PM

^ if it's very damaging (as I presume it is, obviously) one would assume they wouldn't want their company associated with people like that, the sooner they drop her, the better for them.

krazeyo 14th January 2010 10:18 PM

^Avex isn't just dealing with anyone here ;) If it was an up and coming star, avex probably would drop them, but it's Ayumi Hamasaki. It's still an on-going investigation, so they won't just drop her, because she may or may not be involved. She's worth more to avex than some bad publicity right now.


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