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NintendoHTF1242 20th January 2010 10:40 PM

How strict of a tagger are you?
 
So if you can read the title, how strict are you with tagging? I'm a huge tag freak. It HAS to be correct or else I spaz XD Artist tags have to be correct for me. And song titles after that. So how strict are you?

JackieRos 20th January 2010 11:11 PM

I tag them how they are in the cd,
If something says ayumi hamasaki I tag it like that.
I could care less about the kanji if they are not on the cd.
Also like THE FAME MONSTER LADY GAGA
I write it like that too so I think I'm just moderate on the tags.

nemesisyume 20th January 2010 11:23 PM

I'm quite obsessed with tags when it comes to asian music

I hate it more than anything when someone is too lazy to copy paste
some kanji to the artists name.

I hate wrong tags.

wrong tagging should be illegal :roflmao


emi♡ 21st January 2010 01:53 AM

I am OCD.

If I dont have the right tag, I'm not okay.

Mostly because back in the day, I would always get Ayu songs that werent tagged properly, and when I finally found out, like, I was mad.

pommy48 21st January 2010 01:55 AM

Last FM totally made me OCD about it~ I hate when people tag songs in English, so I have to copy and paste the Japanese/Chinese back on

AyUta 21st January 2010 02:19 AM

I'm OCD on that too :laugh.

I HAVE to have them all correct, exactly the way they are. Although...I have to put the Kanji titles in Romaji sometimes because I can't read them. I hate that.

dreamland2.0 21st January 2010 02:20 AM

I'm pretty strict tagger. Usually for my Ipod, things that I have bought of the artist has their kanji name and things that are downloaded I use their romaji name. I also have to rip everything that I have bought and put in my i-pod even if it's already on there downloaded. I just like everything neat and organized!! :laugh

jiarongisme 21st January 2010 02:24 AM

I'm mostly OCD. XD All my covers must have the same dimensions and the capitalisations must be right. But I don't really care about the squiggles (~) and the ...'s. I'll just type it from the keyboard instead of using the Japanese ones.

nemesisyume 21st January 2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jiarongisme (Post 2219226)
I'm mostly OCD. XD All my covers must have the same dimensions and the capitalisations must be right. But I don't really care about the squiggles (~) and the ...'s. I'll just type it from the keyboard instead of using the Japanese ones.

ok you win :thud :thud


Calico 21st January 2010 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2219182)
Last FM totally made me OCD about it~ I hate when people tag songs in English, so I have to copy and paste the Japanese/Chinese back on

This is my life :laugh

XFER 21st January 2010 04:25 AM

If it's someone like Leah Dizon or OLIVIA, who only have one or two songs in kanji, then yes, I want them to be in kanji. However, if it's an artists whose songs are all in kanji, I prefer to tag them with romaji, otherwise I don't know what song it is... I mean, I can recognize the music, but if it appears in my recently listened tracks, I wonder, what song is that??

To me, that's a perfect excuse. I left the chinese symbols on alan's chinese album, and now I don't know which song is which when I want to listen anything from it :(

pommy48 21st January 2010 04:29 AM

^ Lol I have the same problem with Korean songs...

I would just play every song on an album till I get the one I want...XD

Picaflor 7/4 21st January 2010 04:40 AM

i never tag anything, hell, over half the music on my computer has no information on it whatsoever besides the song title.

ll moments ll 21st January 2010 04:45 AM

i tag according to the official tracklist. capalizations, kanji, you name it. i'm a strict tagger, if i say so myself. :laugh

for example,
ARTIST | SONG | ALBUM/SINGLE
LANDS | 二十歳の戦争 | Olympos

i use kanji/hiragana/katakana even if i don't know the meaning of it. LOL. BUT! it does help with learning them. you get a sense of all the common kanji like 愛/恋/君/僕 (all kanji i haven't properly learned in class yet!) take my example, 二十歳の戦争 = Hatachi no Sensou = 20 Year Old War :D

FIRSTKLAS 21st January 2010 05:46 AM

I'm strict in my own way, I guess.

I romanize everything, keep stylized formatting and special characters, and leave Engrish phrases alone (Are You Wake Up?), but I'll usually correct Engrish spellings (Butterfry -> Butterfly) and formatting quirks (Girl Friend -> Girlfriend).

I also never translate anything, especially in terms of Korean releases since, even though a lot of Korean songs have English in the title, it isn't always meant to be a translation.

Basically, my method is to keep everything as close to the original language as possible using English characters so I can read it.

Raiu-Ayu 21st January 2010 02:43 PM

I am so anal about tagging lol

I tag everything the same as it is on the CD :P If the CD says that the title is in kanji then I put in in kanji even if I have no idea what I mean lol I even leave all the dodgy punctuation and stuff

I really hate it when people mess up the stuff. Like if someone posts Boys and Girls instead of Boys & Girls or Hanabi instead of HANABI I feel like killing them lol

Mirai Noah 21st January 2010 06:02 PM

I have my own special rules about tagging. I'm OCD about alphabetical order, so I romanize all the artist names and track titles. And while I can read Japanese, I can only guess with Chinese and my Korean is pretty non-existent, so I like everything to be in Roman letters.

With the covers, I tend to always put the cover of the CD I own, or that I'm likely to buy. So if there is a CD and a CD+DVD version, I almost always put the CD only cover.

I also must have the release year, the track number, etc.

noidea 21st January 2010 06:05 PM

I'm medium^^

Maemi 21st January 2010 07:14 PM

Last.fm turned me into freak.

milky_way 21st January 2010 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2219366)
i never tag anything, hell, over half the music on my computer has no information on it whatsoever besides the song title.

I would die *shudders*


For song names, I use the romaji since I alphabetize all my playlists, but I'll also put the kanji/cyrillic/hangul/etc. and translated title in parenthesis :D

I just romanize the artist name though because it's easier for me to find on the main iTunes screen.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 21st January 2010 09:59 PM

I'd have a mental brakdown if songs aren't tagged correctly. D:

Everything is capitalized and lowercase when need be, there's symbols like stars and hearts, kanji, Engrish, English as normal, and I use romaji only for alphabetatizing the filenames.

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Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 2219708)
I really hate it when people mess up the stuff. Like if someone posts Boys and Girls instead of Boys & Girls or Hanabi instead of HANABI I feel like killing them lol

Exactly. I have no idea why it bothers me so much.

terra 21st January 2010 10:14 PM

I'm an OCD to about it. I've happened to edit some tags in my iPods and turned off the computer afterwards, but to find that I still had some wrong tags so then I turned on the computer again to correct it. If the same problem still there I would repeat the cycle, causing a huge amount of electricity bills one day:P

I had my ways though, I use the exactly correct song titles for Jpop songs mainly because I could read Japanese (and put the romaji titles on thier title sorting). For KPop things I used to look for their English translation to replace the hangul titles. I still used romaji for artists and albums tho:D

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Originally Posted by Raiu-Ayu (Post 2219708)
I am so anal about tagging lol

I tag everything the same as it is on the CD :P If the CD says that the title is in kanji then I put in in kanji even if I have no idea what I mean lol I even leave all the dodgy punctuation and stuff

I really hate it when people mess up the stuff. Like if someone posts Boys and Girls instead of Boys & Girls or Hanabi instead of HANABI I feel like killing them lol

Yes! I feel the same way too. I even went until so far that I hardly sleep at night thinking about correcting it tomorrow morning.

zyoeru 22nd January 2010 04:00 AM

I'm pretty anal. I deleted all of my plays on last.fm once because of an incorrectly tagged song.

waterballoon 22nd January 2010 04:04 AM

I'm so anal about it.

Like jiarong, I try to get all my covers to be 600x600, so now most of them are. :D All song titles in Japanese kanji will be in kanji lol. And for Korean songs, I just copy the tittles from wikipedia or something, with the hangul, and then a short English word/phrase in parenthesis.

RyRyMini 23rd January 2010 10:44 PM

I'm pretty strict. I like everything to have an album and artist if applicable, and for Asian music I like it to be in its original form, whether in kanji, roman letters, or whatever.

The only exception would be that I tend to avoid unicode.

AyUta 23rd January 2010 10:54 PM

@raiu-ayu I know, I REALLY hate that too. :eviltongu

mellody 24th January 2010 02:11 AM

I'm the same as you, Nintendo~ :yes

pommy48 24th January 2010 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zyoeru (Post 2220302)
I'm pretty anal. I deleted all of my plays on last.fm once because of an incorrectly tagged song.

Lol same here XD but you deleted all of your plays? you didn't just delete that one song?

Welurru 24th January 2010 04:24 AM

Everything has to be right for me. Artist names, song titles etc.
If I download something, I check the tags etc so absolutely all my music is in my itunes folder, in the correct folder and at the same bit rate.

The only one that's bugged me so far is Utada. Got both English albums and her Cubic U one tagged as 宇多田ヒカル, but they do (Especially Precious) make me itch cuz I'm uncertain LOL.

rookies 24th January 2010 04:31 AM

I don't care much about tagging. I don't re-tag or anything, I just leave it as is from what it was when I downloaded.

hsienko 24th January 2010 08:20 AM

I used to be super anal about it. All the artwork had to be HQ and I would spend days searching for HQ of rare single covers.

I've lightened up a bit. But when it comes to correct spelling of the song names I'm very strict. If something is written in kanji on the offical artwork then it will be written in kanji in my library.

murasakinohana 24th January 2010 12:20 PM

I'm OCD on this!! OMG.. :yes EVERYTHING has to be correct, capitalization and all.. :rolleyes

zyoeru 25th January 2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 2222053)
Lol same here XD but you deleted all of your plays? you didn't just delete that one song?

It's because in a random bout of paranoia I thought: "Oh God, what if all of my songs are tagged wrong?!?!!"

...Yes, I know how that sounds. XD

I had over 30,000 plays, now I'm just over 10,000. :\

NintendoHTF1242 25th January 2010 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Sunrise~ (Post 2222129)
The only one that's bugged me so far is Utada. Got both English albums and her Cubic U one tagged as 宇多田ヒカル, but they do (Especially Precious) make me itch cuz I'm uncertain LOL.

Precious should be Cubic U
Exodus and This Is the One should be Utada
All her Japanese material is tagged 宇多田ヒカル

~Inori~ 25th January 2010 11:00 PM

I'm only strict when it comes to the title. Like I use romaji but if it is in caps then I leave it in caps. I think I might start using the original text (kanji/kana).

NintendoHTF1242 26th January 2010 12:35 AM

This is how I pretty much tag my stuff

Song Title | Artist | Album
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Escape the Flames | OLIVIA | できない

SAYONARAベイベー INSTRUMENTAL | 加藤ミリヤ | SAYONARAベイベー / 恋シテル

Zeke. 26th January 2010 12:56 AM

I like everything to be correct too. I'm kinda lazy on the album covers but normally I prefer those as well.

I am VERY strict as how I organize my singles vs. albums.

Singles all start like [AA.] Single > Moments
Where as albums are just the album titles, MY STORY

I have to put the [AA.] Single > in the album title if it is a single because when I view by artist, I like the singles to all be at the top and separate from albums.

PoetGirl 26th January 2010 10:58 AM

lol, interesting question. last fm is responsible for that haha...
im not sure if im 100% freak or on its way,
but i can freak out if i play artist like 1000x times and then
find out its not beni arashiro in japanese characters, its BENI -.-

AyumiBest 26th January 2010 11:28 AM

I must have the exact title for the song and albums. Even if one letter is not capitalized or something I feel the need to edit it. I'm the same with artists. If I see a space when there isn't supposed to be one I edit it. I'm ok with the covers.

NintendoHTF1242 26th January 2010 01:01 PM

I only do non-spaces if their official website has it like that. I HATE the feat. tag though. It's so hard to get that right because some artists are clumped up "feat.VERBAL(m-flo), feat.BoA" and others have a ton of artists "AT THE FEVER feat. TWIGY,NIPPS,DEV LARGE,SHINNOSK8" "FUTURECHECKA feat. SIMON, COMA-CHI & TARO SOUL"

I think the hardest thing to tag was LALALA feat. 若旦那 (湘南乃風) / FUTURECHECKA feat. SIMON, COMA-CHI & TARO SOUL by Miliyah x.x

hearted 26th January 2010 03:02 PM

when i still went to last.fm i was obsessed with tagging but i dont go there anymore, so i dont really care now...

happiholic★ 26th January 2010 09:02 PM

I'm a tag freak. Totally OCD about it. Like, if I'm listening to my mp3 player and I somehow managed to miss one it's all I can think about until I can get home and fix it. I'm crazy, but I don't care.

Amrai-chan 26th January 2010 11:29 PM

When I bought HEART STATION from Amazon MP3 it was mistagged and I didn't do anything about it until 450 plays later. I want to delete those but then it will cut my 993 Hikki plays to 500 something. So now I'm always checking and double checking.

I don't like the feat tag though. Like I Did It For Love feat. Sean Garret. No if BoA were to introduce the song she would just say I Did It For Love. If something features somebody put it in the booklet credits or something.

Also Original Mix tags are unnecessary like on the Mirrorcle World Single.

NintendoHTF1242 26th January 2010 11:44 PM

^ Lol even I include the original mix tag. That's how strict I am xP

XFER 27th January 2010 02:02 AM

Amrai-Chan, I have a similar problem. I have more than 1000 plays of Dominique A. but the correct tag should be Dominique A without a point. So since I don't want to lose such a big amount of plays, I let it be :P

zyoeru 1st February 2010 10:11 AM

I'm super annoyed...someone tagged "★Areyoume "byuuti" HamaSuki★" as "(^^♪Areyoume ”byUち” Hamasuki"

Cherry Dynamite 6th February 2010 12:56 PM

^ LOL!

.........................

I'm not much of a OC tagger but I have my own rules to follow xD
I don't put the album name on the title because it's quite obvious if it's on the same album folder.

If it's foreign music I tag it this way :
walking proud - Hamasaki Ayumi (浜崎 あゆみ)

If it's English I tag it this way
Lady Gaga - Monster

I don't really care that much if my covers have different dimensions but as much as possible I keep them similar.

Spoiler:
Actually I'm OCD I just don't like to admit it

wildconnetta 6th February 2010 06:03 PM

Rather strict...

I put stuff like Mirrorcle World ''Original Mix'' I do that, but if it's I Did It For Love feat. Sean Garret I take out the feat. bit. I have feat. tags >_<

noisy_harmony 6th February 2010 07:27 PM

Even I don't have last.fm account, I'm a freak about correct tags. I always see at album/single scans and official sites and tag as it is written there. So, for example, I can't tolerate 浜崎あゆみ - I write ayumi hamasaki (I remember that on A Song for xx it was Ayumi Hamasaki :))... All kanji etc. names are written in romaji, except for titles, when is english word(s) there - then I don't care, because I know a song.

NintendoHTF1242 8th July 2011 11:02 PM

Okay time to revive a dead topic!!

I've become so OCD that

All my covers MUST be 300x300 PNG (I usually get them from last.fm)
The tags are as correct as they can be according to the CD's tracklist (on the back insert)

Ugh tagging Korean music is still tough ;3;

dreamland2.0 9th July 2011 01:17 AM

I also go to the official artist website to make sure my tags are proper. Especially things like ellipsis and ~ lines are right xD

TofuBunny 9th July 2011 02:34 AM

^^ UGH TAGGING KOREAN ALBUMS IS A NIGHTMARE. I've given up on trying to find the correct album tag. idc if it's SHINee World or The 1st Album SHINee World or Vol 1.SHINee World anymore :tired

Oh I'm pretty strict about them, all the titles, artist names, cover art must be correct. I correct album tags for Japanese and Western artists, but I leave the Korean ones alone .. Unless it's an OST album, these are easy to tag :laugh

It just kills me that I have 222 plays on the 샤이니(SHINee) tag from listening to the Lucifer CD directly instead of ripping the songs into the computer and tagging them correctly .. I only realized that last.fm didn't auto-correct it after two weeks :weep /coolstorybro

NintendoHTF1242 9th July 2011 02:50 AM

^ Tell me about it man :/ I don't use the "Vol.1" and stuff though when I tag Korean albums. It's ugly lol. So instead of that "Vol.1 Solar" I just use "Solar" xD

MemorialAddress 9th July 2011 04:39 AM

To say that I'm obsessed with getting the proper tags would be an understatement...
And I won't EVEN get started on how frustrating Korean tags are!!
I also will not listen to a song if I don't have the album art for it. I don't know why, I just literally cannot do it. I HAVE to have the proper art and tags before I can even consider listening to something.

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 9th July 2011 09:04 AM

well, I'm actually pretty strict for j-pop songs (e.g. the capital / lower case should be the same exactly like the official website :D)

but for all western and korean songs, I write it in the way wikipedia / iTunes Store does... :)

wildconnetta 9th July 2011 09:29 AM

KOREAN ALBUMS ARE FRUSTRATING.
Not as bad as artists though.

Is it 걸스데이 or Girl's Day?
Is it 현아 (포미닛), 현아, Hyuna, Hyunah, Hyuna (4minute), Hyunah (4minute) or 4minute?

Kanzaki 9th July 2011 09:41 AM

I tag it as good as I "can" and when I have the time, but it doesn't make me go all OCD when I see stuff that's wrong. I DO have huge issues with LQ covers though. Get that **** out of my itunes, please.

bondingo 9th July 2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2714165)
^ Tell me about it man :/ I don't use the "Vol.1" and stuff though when I tag Korean albums. It's ugly lol. So instead of that "Vol.1 Solar" I just use "Solar" xD

I do the same thing. The Vol. thing has always been really stupid imo.

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Originally Posted by MemorialAddress (Post 2714211)
To say that I'm obsessed with getting the proper tags would be an understatement...
And I won't EVEN get started on how frustrating Korean tags are!!
I also will not listen to a song if I don't have the album art for it. I don't know why, I just literally cannot do it. I HAVE to have the proper art and tags before I can even consider listening to something.

:laugh I won't listen to songs that don't have the right tag either. Even if I'm just unsure about it, I don't want it to scrobble if I'm not sure it's correct. The artwork isn't as much an issue for me since that's just for looks and isn't scrobbled or anything. Still, I try and get at least decent quality covers so my iTunes isn't a shitshow.

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Originally Posted by wildconnetta (Post 2714292)
KOREAN ALBUMS ARE FRUSTRATING.
Not as bad as artists though.

Is it 걸스데이 or Girl's Day?
Is it 현아 (포미닛), 현아, Hyuna, Hyunah, Hyuna (4minute), Hyunah (4minute) or 4minute?

Ew. Tell me about it. That's the thing I hate SO ****ING MUCH about Korean music. It's the same with T-ARA, Secret, and soooo many more. I tend to just go with what I see used the most on official stuff. I used to use Girls' Generation instead of the hangul, but I switched since, even though GG is written on all their covers and on all their promo stuff, it really seems like the official name is SNSD. No one calls them GG out loud unless maybe you're in a country that doesn't speak Korean. But even then, so many people just say SNSD.

EDIT: I just thought of something: it always bothers me when I see people who blatantly just don't give a crap about tags on last.fm. Like, it seems like it's defeating the purpose of accurately recording the music you listen to if you have all these crazy romaji tags for singers and song titles. It just pisses me off tbeh.

noisy_harmony 9th July 2011 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2714099)
Ugh tagging Korean music is still tough ;3;

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Originally Posted by TofuBunny (Post 2714163)
^^ UGH TAGGING KOREAN ALBUMS IS A NIGHTMARE. I've given up on trying to find the correct album tag. idc if it's SHINee World or The 1st Album SHINee World or Vol 1.SHINee World anymore :tired

Agreeing so much. There can be like 5 versions of the song's title and I still don't know how to tag it.
and it's The SHINee World Sarah bb ;)

Already posted here but things have been changed a bit. Since I got last.fm account I'm still a OCD. With japanese artists I don't have much problems, I tag everything as it should be, except I ALWAYS leave a space after feat. word and I don't care is it always correct (BoA's collabs can go die ugh). I'm always wondering whether should I go by japanese font (damn ~s!) or just type from my keyboard. And I most often use japanese font.


And korean music. I always tag artist name in hangul except those with numbers (2AM, 2NE1 etc.) and BoA (though nowadays, you know... :laugh). I gave up with adding volumes, special descriptions in brackets [(Digital Single), (Mini Album), (EP)] to releases, I just type the title (e.g. NO.1 instead of 2집 NO.1). When artists are singing in more than one language (mainly japanese in that case) and they have other, official name in this country I'm going to tag other language stuff like that (most popular example: 東方神起 for japanese stuff, 동방신기 for korean).

I always go to sites like melOn to check the correct names of releases and songs.

koumori 9th July 2011 03:15 PM

I'm not that bad. I can't stand typo's, or song titles spelt wrong - but if the song's original title is in kanji or w/e I'll change it to romanji or to its english translation so I can know which song is which.

Album/single cover art has to be a perfect square and I edit them in Photoshop to be a little brighter so my iTunes looks colourful :laugh I don't use kanji artist names either; it's all "Ayumi Hamasaki", "Koda Kumi" etc.

Also if an artist has released music under different names, eg. Utada Hikaru's english albums were released under the name "Utada", I'll still tag it in my iTunes as "Utada Hikaru". But her Precious album is under "Cubic U" because I feel that's a different era totally for her.

NintendoHTF1242 9th July 2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2714346)
Agreeing so much. There can be like 5 versions of the song's title and I still don't know how to tag it.
and it's The SHINee World Sarah bb ;)

Already posted here but things have been changed a bit. Since I got last.fm account I'm still a OCD. With japanese artists I don't have much problems, I tag everything as it should be, except I ALWAYS leave a space after feat. word and I don't care is it always correct (BoA's collabs can go die ugh). I'm always wondering whether should I go by japanese font (damn ~s!) or just type from my keyboard. And I most often use japanese font.


And korean music. I always tag artist name in hangul except those with numbers (2AM, 2NE1 etc.) and BoA (though nowadays, you know... :laugh). I gave up with adding volumes, special descriptions in brackets [(Digital Single), (Mini Album), (EP)] to releases, I just type the title (e.g. NO.1 instead of 2집 NO.1). When artists are singing in more than one language (mainly japanese in that case) and they have other, official name in this country I'm going to tag other language stuff like that (most popular example: 東方神起 for japanese stuff, 동방신기 for korean).

I always go to sites like melOn to check the correct names of releases and songs.

I so agree about the feat. tag :laugh

BoA sucks with that man. UNIVERSE feat.Crystal Kay & VERBAL(m-flo)? Ew gross. Space BoA, use it.

As for TOHOSHINKI and DBSK, I do that too. It's weird having a Korean release under their Japanese name...it just doesn't feel right

And I have like, three tags for Utada. The Kanji, Utada, and Cubic U x.x

For JPN artists, capitalization is ALWAYS correct. And I NEVER use ~, it's ALWAYS ~. Even if it's just like "OMG A SONG ~FOR YOU~" or something lmao.

noisy_harmony 9th July 2011 07:59 PM

^ or BUMP! BUMP! feat.VERBAL(m-flo). And this is the official name. WTF I'm refusing of tagging it like that.

Well, about TVXQ I'm not suprised people are tagging all their works under 東方神起, because it's their very official name which is in chinese (Tong Vfang Xien Qi). It's kind of luck japanese translation looks the same and has the same meaning :laugh Though 동방신기 is more popularized in Korea for a simple reason, it's easier to Koreans to know their name in mother language. (There's the same issue with other korean band, The Grace. Official and japanese name is 天上智喜, in Korea they're known as 천상지희)

CHE.R.RY 9th July 2011 09:48 PM

I'm very strict with my tags...right down to the correct way to spell/write it (such as Korean vs. English romanization). Also everything has to be capitalized or typed in lower case exactly as it is supposed to be. All the songs have to be in the correct numerical order or else I go crazy :weep. Pretty much it's gotta be 100% accurate....

TofuBunny 9th July 2011 10:00 PM

Oh thanks Nat ! It's been bothering me for a while now XD
I'm gonna fix all the Korean albums in my iTunes and take off the Vol., 집, The (insert number here) mini-album, and anything between brackets, idc what it says on the CD cover :laugh

noisy_harmony 9th July 2011 10:18 PM

^ CD covers are ALWAYS confusing when it goes to kpop, I wouldn't believe them at all unless there's only one name, not like The First Mini Album Blah Blah Blah La La La. Like I said the best way to be sure is checking out korean sites like melOn, daum, m-net etc.

wildconnetta 10th July 2011 07:56 AM

Park Ji Yoon's "The Age Ain't Nothing But A Number" was a confusing album as generasia said there was 10 tracks, melOn said there was 11 tracks, Daum said there was 12 tracks and Wikipedia said there was 14 tracks. My downloaded copy had 14.
Also, on all places, her "Woo~ Twenty One" album has 16 tracks, and my downloaded copy had the last two missing.

FIRSTKLAS 10th July 2011 03:57 PM

maniadb is a pretty good place to find discography info for Korean artists. They usually have cover scans, including the back, so you can verify track lists. :)

noisy_harmony 10th July 2011 04:09 PM

^^ woah this is such a weird issue! what does her official website say?

^ maniadb has many uncorrect names for both albums and singles, especially in oldschool artists' profile pages. and tracklist in the back cover can have sometimes errors as well.

wildconnetta 10th July 2011 06:23 PM

^ She doesn't have a website.
^^ It doesn't have the album.

FIRSTKLAS 10th July 2011 07:27 PM

^Which album? The Age Ain't Nothing But A Number or Woo~ Twenty One?

It's easier to browse an artist's page rather than try to find an specific album since the search engine can be a bit flaky.

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2714890)
^ maniadb has many uncorrect names for both albums and singles, especially in oldschool artists' profile pages. and tracklist in the back cover can have sometimes errors as well.

True, and I think that it just goes to show how the Korean industry isn't that concerned with accuracy and consistency when it comes to the details of their music releases. A lot of the time what's written on the back cover will differ from what's written in the booklet so I wouldn't kill myself looking for accurate tags.

Personally, as long as the album title is there and some form of the song name (except translations, I hate those :P), I think it's fine.

wildconnetta 12th July 2011 09:02 PM

^ My downloaded version was correct of VOL.3 My downloaded copy of VOL.6 has the last two tracks missing.

microphone 12th July 2011 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2714099)
Okay time to revive a dead topic!!

I've become so OCD that

All my covers MUST be 300x300 PNG (I usually get them from last.fm)
The tags are as correct as they can be according to the CD's tracklist (on the back insert)

Ugh tagging Korean music is still tough ;3;

good deal!

for me, all covers must be 600x600 PNG. title tracks must be exactly as printed on the CD. disc number, composer and writers must be left blank. only artist, album, track number, genre, year, title and the cover are completed. single digit track numbers must be preceded by a zero. i use Mp3tag, by the way. i highly recommend it!

sesshy 13th July 2011 11:20 PM

I'm not really strict, but I like to keep my playlist neat. I only use romaji since I have other people looking at my music. (Good thing Last.fm combines Japanese and romaji together.) But every song must have a picture over 600x600 and high quality too. XD; (I use bowtie on Mac and I like having pictures showing up on my ipod touch.)

And I see I'm not the only one who fidgets on TVXQ's tag. I got so frustrated I added it all under TVXQ (except JYJ). People will kill me, but whatever. lol.

NintendoHTF1242 14th July 2011 03:46 AM

omg my OCD was killing me so badly I erased my last.fm plays -.- (been getting that since November 2009...) Damn you music.

microphone 14th July 2011 04:10 PM

the problem is us, unfortunately :D

NintendoHTF1242 17th July 2011 03:07 PM

How do we tag Korean artists? Like, I was watching "Music Bank" and when they were showing MBLAQ it was shown as 엠블랙 (MBLAQ). But on last.fm, apparently that's wrong :laugh I cannot figure out Korean tagging.

noisy_harmony 17th July 2011 03:13 PM

^ Because there are hangul versions of names, you know. Their official name is MBLAQ but 엠블랙 is how people are calling them in Korea because it's easier for them to pronounce. Btw I tag every korean musician in hangul name to not meet eventual problems and it isn't also a wrong way because they're called like that in their mother country + most, if not all artists are tagged in hangul on CDs. So I don't care for those people who badly want to merge pages on last.fm.

Music shows are messing up with showing artists' names, song titles, even lyrics.

bondingo 18th July 2011 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2718707)
Music shows are messing up with showing artists' names, song titles, even lyrics.

So true. They really don't make it easy for all of us whop actually give a ****.

But I don't agree with tagging every Korean artist in hangul. Some are pretty much always written in English (i.e. obvious ones like 2NE1 and 4minute, but also After School, Brown Eyed Girls, etc.), so I don't think hangul should be the default choice, even if the country is Korea. The only time I think you know 100% that it's hangul is if it's the person's name, like Hyori and Taeyang.

RayJason 18th July 2011 12:32 AM

I personally cannot listen to music that are not tagged, especially when the album art is missing. In 99.9% I will freak out and search the album art on the internet to properly tag the song. I do not go as far as labeling which person did the guitar, strings etc.

Luckily because of the fact that I only download [Full] album's I get rid of this problem very often.

Whenever I cannot find an album art that is square or bright, I will edit it in Photoshop to make it more "lively" XD. I cannot stand having Low quality covers in my library. For tagging I use Mediamonkey

And when tagging an ayu song, I never write ayu's name as "ayumi hamasaki" but as "Ayumi Hamasaki". And no kanji artist names for me either, just; Ayumi Hamasaki, Namie Amuro etc.

noisy_harmony 18th July 2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 2718932)
But I don't agree with tagging every Korean artist in hangul. Some are pretty much always written in English (i.e. obvious ones like 2NE1 and 4minute, but also After School, Brown Eyed Girls, etc.), so I don't think hangul should be the default choice, even if the country is Korea. The only time I think you know 100% that it's hangul is if it's the person's name, like Hyori and Taeyang.

So what about, for example, Rainbow, Secret, or T-ara? See, if those names weren't taken by other bands on Last.fm, everybody would tag them like that, not in hangul. I'm tagging them in hangul (EXCEPT those with numbes) because it's safer, it's not wrong as everybody seem to think, and I'm also not dependent on Last.fm.

Though I sometimes have to be, when one page is taken by few various artists and/or artist's name is spelled wrong. Hello Unicode

bondingo 18th July 2011 12:14 PM

^That's the really tough part. It depends with me. I do Rainbow in hangul since there's some much more popular group I've never heard of using the tag in English and I hated using "Rainbow" only to have a picture of that group show up on my last.fm (like you said). Secret I do in English because it's written in English on all their covers and stuff, and no one else has that tag dominated like with Rainbow. T-ARA I do in English for the same reason as Secret (there's DEFINITELY not another artist using T-ARA). It's annoying and confusing since everyone disagrees. I can't tell in a lot of cases, but it seems right to me to use the English tag when the Korean is nothing more than a phonetic spelling of the English word. Conversely, SNSD's tag for the Korean releases should be the hangul because it says Girls' Generation actually in Korean and it's not just a phonetic spelling like most of the others.

I don't think anyone should be telling anyone else what to do with tags though. At the end of the day, it's that person's preference. I do think, however, that if someone is gonna use last.fm, they shouldn't do things that are blatantly wrong like using romaji for Japanese artists' names or song titles, but if you aren't scrobbling it, then I sure as hell don't care what they're doing.

noisy_harmony 28th July 2011 10:01 PM

...So I decided to be like everyone else and started tagging artists with their "romanized" names. :laugh

One question guys. Where do you get correct dates of releases? Since I'm naming folders with album/single title and its release date too. I'm going mad seeing different dates of the same thing at wikipedia-like sites, korean websites, sharing communities... (>_<)

bondingo 28th July 2011 10:34 PM

^Only the year really matters, right? I mean, since you can't input month and day on iTunes. It's never really much of an issue to at least get the year, which seems to be the same everywhere. Not sure how to help if you ARE inputting day and month somewhere too though...

noisy_harmony 28th July 2011 10:53 PM

^ No, I don't use iTunes. I just... want to know the proper date, I'm a OCD like that. :laugh

FIRSTKLAS 29th July 2011 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by noisy_harmony (Post 2725152)
One question guys. Where do you get correct dates of releases? Since I'm naming folders with album/single title and its release date too. I'm going mad seeing different dates of the same thing at wikipedia-like sites, korean websites, sharing communities... (>_<)

With Korean releases it can be really hard to get an exact release date since there isn't much information out there that references official sources. A lot of KPop artists don't even have detailed discography information on their official sites and the closest thing you'll get on the actual CDs is only the year and month. :dead2

It's easier to date newer releases because you can always check sellers on eBay, but for older releases you'll just have to get used to possibly not having the correct date - and definitely don't rely on YesAsia for information either since they use their own release dates. :P

noisy_harmony 29th July 2011 11:17 PM

^ yup I know about YesAsia :laugh I think it's like that with every selling website though.


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