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Ayu Rumors: Official Chat Thread V
i find this some where, its a rumor of her new album track list
(who knows if its real?) you guy decided.... 01. Circus 02. Sexy little things 03. Microphone 04. MIND 05. dead moon 06. BALLAD 07. player 08. Don’t look back 09. Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ 10. timetable 11. Rock’n'Roll Time 12. Flame out 13. You were… 14. Bracelet 15. Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ source from ayubrasil.com sorry if this been post~~~~~~ |
We already "decided" it's not. We already have a General Rumors thread :)
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It's good that you're keeping an eye out, but this was already posted a long time ago in the official Rumors thread! :)
All rumors should be posted there. It's right here in the chat-room, at the top (since it's a sticky thread) But it's okay a mod will move it for you! (About the tracklist: it's probably fake) |
mods please delete this thread
my bad~~~sorry everyone TT_TT |
hey, i appreciate the effort! :)
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I really hope "Flame out" turns out to be a track, it'll be her gayest song title to date!
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^ lmao!!
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"player?" Nuh-uh lol.
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Ayu Rumors: Official Chat Thread V
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well ya, I feel the same way as a lot of people
14 tracks for the past 3 albums? 4 interludes from the past two, a cycle that definitely needs breaking and i'm so happy the album i'm most anxious for is the one to do it! and yaaa I pray the album is Circus, and ya ya it`s been done but I`m sure ayu would give the theme a circus so it`s w/e. ugh rock nroll circus is so cliche and sort of makes me think "oh an album for rock and roll" soooo limited, even if it's not i hate getting that impression well, FINGERS CROSSED! i wonder how the whole tour before the album thing will come off... |
I hope that "circus" isn't anywhere in the title. Whether its Circus or Rock n' Roll Circus doesn't really matter because both are bad. Circus is overused very recently, Rock n' Roll Circus sounds cheesy and both sound impersonal and unAyu-like. Aside from the title though, I'm more excited for this album than I was for Next Level. I still don't like the title Next Level either now that I think about it, haha.
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^ i disagree. I think Rock n roll circus is an awesome title. I actually don't mind if it has been used before because i don't listen to pop music. :) hahahaha...
i think that the album will be on stores on april 14... because of the tour. till official news are available we can have fun with the rumours :roflmao |
and the sound of rumors shattering can be heard...
so calming... |
Hmm. I thought the Sunrise/Sunset single was not on the album
So it's fake, I guess |
^But the official site said that Sunrise/Sunset will be included. O.o
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And it's confirmed ;-) I think the tracklist may turn out to be true?!?! |
So, this follows NL pattern
when was that tracklist posted? |
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I am ok with the title, it sounds messy and in a weird pop way kinda artistic. In the end the title of an album was imo never important. |
...shouldn't these be created by moderators? -blinks-
Oh well... looks like all of those rumors have been proved wrong. |
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13th Feburary NL announced 3rd March tracklist + last cover |
if its true, than player has to be the Lollipop song
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Rumor thread. hm.
I hear a strange rumor that ayu is making a new album called "Rock 'n' Roll Circus". It has songs called "You were..." "Ballad" and "Sunrise ~Love is All~". Scandelous, I know. >> << Quote:
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I'll never make it till April 14th!!! |
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the trend of 4567890759 interludes needs to be broken. I don't think it will because she stated how she liked the transitions in NEXT LEVEL. I'm so scared :( |
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The hate for interludes is really unnecessary.. It's not like if there wasn't interludes there would be "real" songs in their place. Interludes just make the other songs into a well-flowing whole imo. Plus I personally love most of her interludes... Music doesn't have to last for over 3 mins or have vocals to be great. :yes
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Most of her interludes are literaly quite amazing, like Kaleidoscope, Takinst, Labyrinth, The Judgement Day etc |
^ indeed, even though I generally prefer the ones with the vocals like not yet, Mirror, Catcher in the Light, reBIRTH and Bridge to the sky as they are fun to sing a long.
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I think the problem is not with interludes itself.. but the fact that for having interludes there's less FULL songs.. I'm oke with interludes... But I don't want to have only 6-7 new songs... 8-9 would be the best +4 from singles 13+3 (intro+2 inter) 16...
a standard japanese album is about 12 songs right? it's like a trick: oh! there's 13 tracks!, but no!, 3 are interludes so in reality are 10... that's the problem... |
PHAIL. 14 tracks
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^ If Ayu decides to not do interludes that does NOT mean we get full songs instead, it means we get the same number of full songs but less interludes in between, it only shortens the album and worsens the flow in the end.
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^ agreed. Pieces of SEVEN is one of the best and the messiest (in a positive way) transitions, I loved it~
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^but what I mean is what I said after that sentence.. if they talk about an album of 14 songs, they are lying with Ayu... when for UNIVERSE (koda) they said, hey, it's coming a 15 track new album, and we GOT 14 full song album+1intro with lyrics. For Past<future, they said, hey.. it's coming a 12 track album, we got 12 FULL songs... with ayu they say: you'll get a 14 track album, and we get 11 full songs... that's what I'm saying... |
They are songs, per definition they even are full songs, it's just many people don't seem to understand just what a song is so they expect ~4-5 minute songs with vocals, I don't care, I think her interludes at times are better than her long songs, TJD beats glitter every day.
There are albums with more than 20 songs, just some are only a few seconds in lenght, yet they are song so calling GUILTY a 10 or 11 song album would be totally wrong. |
^yeah I know, I love her interludes, I like them, but I would like a 14 full songs and then 3 interludes hehe Now we just expect it.. but with GUILTY it was a BIG shock I think, Secret still was OK... but 3 interlude with intro was too much for a 14 track album XD
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People don't like albums watered down with interludes. Get over it.
You aren't going to make people like the fact that 1/3 of her last two albums were interludes, so just stop wasting your time. |
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you are right I like her interludes and I don´t want them to be replaced but interludes are normally there to give you a break in a long album so she either does a 12 track album with no interludes or and 16-18 track album with 2-3 interludes but not 14 tracks with 4 interludes thats just stupid |
@Tom - yeah, but that doesn't make the albums bad ^^
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I sometimes love the interludes better than some other songs:innocent
ok now we can't make any rumors of the album tittle but we can still make rumors of the leftover tracklist who's first? |
The only reason I'm even a tiny bit happy that the album only has 14 tracks is that it means this isn't the tracklist. All those titles are awful. x.x
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Hate all those rumour tracklists
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if all interludes were good like all in NEXT LEVEL I would not mind
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i think it's fake fake fake!
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Ayu Rumors: Official Chat Thread V
This is the 5th Official Ayu Rumors thread.
As always, the purpose of this thread is to discuss all rumors or unconfirmed news/speculation about Ayumi Hamasaki. It is important to post these things here and not in the News section, to keep things as organized as possible and prevent confusion between rumors and actual news. So to clarify again:
Thanks. :) |
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Yay, we can merge the other one with this one.
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Duty transitioned EXTREMELY well with just an intro, and LOVEppears was the same (I actually noticed how "Interlude" from that album worked- LOVE~refrain~ and monochrome did'nt flow). But say, GUILTY had Mirror, which I'm almost certain was made into a full song, and the very useless prelude to Marionette. Next Level now, if the song after the title track hadn't beenm there, i think it would be good, and Pieces of Seven (if we dont count the meaning) could've been placed to transition to the "rock" section./ |
weird things~~
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I'd tolerate many interludes in very lengthy albums like MY STORY or experimental ones (RAINBOW), but not 3-4 every single time :rolleyes Still, it'd be wiser to wait until release before judging anything |
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So the interludes become "placeholders" for the full tracks that possibly could've been? -blinks- Just saying a possibility rather than the "wut ayu iz so lazii"-standard answer for when interluders are brought up. |
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ah well it doesnt matter to me . i just want a tracklist *sighs*
i love ayu interludes (although many may not). i do need then. like if they are good (which to me they have been) then i really dont mind. . .i really dont expet a lot of albums to be super long lately or anything. . .idk maybe its just what i listen to *shrugs* |
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If she had the time, I think she would've done more full tracks, but it's rather obvious that after (miss)understood, all the albums have been made in a really quick manner [not a lazy one.] Say someone gave you 12 hours or less to create an piece of art [music, a dress, something creative.] and you wanted to do something big. You would not be able to execute it perfectly compared to if you had 24 hours or more... if you get what I'm saying, you should understand that laziness is not the same thing as trying to get something done quickly when you have time constraints. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but basically, Ayu could've done more, but there's a pretty strict schedule. See reality shows that involve creative spirits like Top Chef / Project Runway for things like this, except apply that concept to an album and increase the amount of time. I would say that Rock'n'Roll Circus is the first time in a while where she hasn't really abided by a super strict deadline and is instead finishing things as she pleases. It's a good thing though. (Spending 3+ months instead of 2 or waaaaay less.) I'm sorry that you think Ayu is being lazy by constantly working for the past 3 months, but I feel that she is working her BUTT off and even though the previous albums had 4 interludes, she was STILL working her tail off given the amount of time she had to complete the albums. Secret had only 3 or so weeks to complete another half of the album, GUILTY was done after some sort of "writer's block" or something with Ayu finished 5 songs' lyrics in one day, and NEXT LEVEL was done in a pretty quick manner between Days/GREEN -> mid-February for about 2 months. It really pains me to see when people say Ayu is being lazy when she's practically working nearly ALL YEAR. -crazyface- Schedules for end of 2008-2010: 10~11/2008 - Work on COUNTDOWN LIVE, record new singles 12/2008 - release and promote new single, perform at COUNTDOWN LIVE, announce tour 01/2009 - Work on ARENA TOUR, work on new single/album 02/2009 - release Rule/Sparkle, promote minimally while also working on ARENA TOUR, work on new album 03/2009 - release NEXT LEVEL at end of month, also promoting and working on ARENA TOUR 04~07/2009 - ARENA TOUR begins and runs for a few months, work on new single for August 08~09/2009 - release Sunrise/Sunset and promote, do a-nation '09, corrections for ARENA TOUR 10/2009 - ARENA TOUR finale, and work on new single, come up with concepts for COUNTDOWN LIVE 11~12/2009 - work on new single, work on COUNTDOWN LIVE, perform at COUNTDOWN LIVE, release new single, promote new single as well 01/2010 - Work on ARENA TOUR, work on new album 02/2010 - Work on ARENA TOUR, work on new album 03/2010 - Work on ARENA TOUR, work on new album 04~-07/2010 - ARENA TOUR begins, Rock'n'Roll Circus releases and promotion [?]08~09/2010 - a-nation '10[?], along with new single? [?]10~11/2010 - new single release[?]... planning for COUNTDOWN LIVE.. etc... |
I don't think Ayu's been lazy at ALL with Rock 'n' Roll Circus. I think NEXT LEVEL was an INCREDIBLY half assed and lazy effort, and so was Sunrise/Sunset really. They were soooo bellow her standard, so thrown together at the last minute, it was so obvious.
This time she definitely has been working her ass off, she's got a new spark starting with You were.../BALLAD that's only grown into a forest fire of creativity for R'n'RC |
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There are people who feel that NEXT LEVEL and Sunrise are some of her best work in a while... aren't you kind of offending them by saying things like that? I know that people all have their own opinions about things, but I don't think there's a necessity to shove them in others' faces as though they are the truth, or at least, presenting them as though they are the truth when they aren't. Some people hate I am... and LOVEppears. Does that make them not great or something? It really depends on the way you look at the situation. All that saying the album/single sounded halfarsed and lazy to you says about you is that you really probably don't know how much work goes into something even though you dislike it. Though really, someone like Heidi Montag probably spent like an hour recording her album, but she doesn't count. I think it's rude to say things like that... it'd be like saying that Ayu didn't spend any time working on AT09, when she did spend hours and hours rehearsing for it. You don't know the first thing about what goes into a show (even a small one!) if you say something like that. -blinks- |
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^^ yeah really. i liked Sunrise a lot. its actually stayed stuck in my head
and i think NL was fine. (key words "i think" or "imo") for me im kinda offended as when peopls say that i feel i have inferior taste. oh well. over it looking to the future. which is seemign pretty bright ^__~ |
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And I never mentioned the work that went into a tour, don't you DARE put words in my mouth. |
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can it stop? can Grace just not be like my little brother in thinking their opinion is superior to others when its obvious that people have different minds and were not clones of Grace. . ."stans" sounds like a term 8 yr olds use. . .
*speaks to self* "why do people think their opinions are facts, jasmine?" "i really dont know. maybe but lets not call them stupid because they will be offended cuz it doesnt match their mindset" sorry i just dont like seeing random crap in the forums. ive been here liek 2 months and am sick of it.. . goodnight |
I cursed? You mean the word "ass"? I'm not five, I will use the word that I'd use in actual conversation to describe what I mean.
Look, I love Ayu just as much as the next guy. She's my favorite artist, but I don't think she's perfect, and I definitely don't think she's always putting her best forward, particularly in her recording in 2009. I mean, after 10 years of perfection, a little slip up is okay, it's not good and I'm totally allowed to complain about it, but with You were.../BALLAD her spark seemed to have come back, and then she's put SO much work and effort into this album, how it can be anything but perfection is beyond me. But by the sheer fact that she rushed out NEXT LEVEL, when she proved this year if she REALLY wanted to, she could have had that release pushed back, just shows me that there wasn't as much effort as you seem to believe there was in it. And again, we all know she had a whole other ballad planned out, but then decided against it to record Sunrise~ballad version~ with slightly different lyrics. I dunno, the whole one melody two songs thing has ALWAYS struck me as lazy. When Kuu did it, I thought the same thing. |
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She's not perfect. But I feel that making up excuses about NEXT LEVEL being "rushed" = "terrible" is one of the worst reasons for a release being "bad". It's like... people thought Secret was incredibly rushed and that was why it sucked for many of them. However, look at Secret now. It's on the top of many people's favorite album lists and no one really cares about how much time that it took for her to finish it because they love the album. Something so trivial as the amount of time spent on an album should not influence the opinion that you have towards the album unless somehow it's audibly apparent that the record was rushed, when in Ayu's case, I think that her so-called rushed works sometimes turn out better than artists who spend years on an album... Call me blind if you want, but based on what I have seen, I'd rather be blind than be like the bitter people who are supposedly able to "see" the truth about Ayu. Quote:
The one melody/two songs thing is weird, but for this case, it is like a sister-song/question-answer dealio where the first song and second song are like lovers talking to one another a la LOVE FOREVER/FOREVER LOVE, Koko ni iru yo/Soba ni iru ne, among others. Unlike some other artists who do this, it is completely different due to the differing natures [ballad/upbeat] of the tracks. I feel as though they are both very good standalone tracks and both deserve their places in the album. It's as though she did her own sort of answer song thing, and unlike the artists who collaborate, she cannot simple put one on the album, and save the other for another album. I feel as though some people mistake friendly conversation as though there's some sort of hidden agenda behind someone's words sometimes... or maybe that's just me. |
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Question/Answer songs done by two artists are actually usually very good, and a very unique idea. One artist writing their own question and answer is stupid, and comes across as lazy ESPECIALLY if it's done at the exact same time. In the case of POWDER SNOW and PSII, they were a year apart, and thus came across as a clever view of growth over a year's time. If she'd released Sunrise say, last year, and then released Sunset a year later or longer later, the reaction may have been better, at least from me. I think I'm done arguing my case for NEXT LEVEL. I'm obviously not doing anything not proving any point and I'm too tired to really care about it anymore. |
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2ch brought up some random stuff involving a "new single" for summer / "new songs"...
A Song For You, Suspense Night With Me (supposed to be My?) Love, and Destiny. With the first two being "uptempo tracks with low melodies" or something. I guess some of these are supposed to be album tracks but... I don't really know what they're going on about, haha. These are all reportedly new songs but only A Song For You / Suspense Night With Me Love are to be in a "single" haha. Sooooooooooooooooo fake. I just looked it up and it's an old single rumor for 2008 that had a drama attached to it, haha. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...US355&ie=UTF-8 |
@ the fake 2ch summer songs: lol at those song titles. :roflmao
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Suspense Night for "Me" Love :laugh
Just hilarious |
A Song for you would be the cheapest title ever for an Ayu song O_O Aren't they bored to create fake tracklists ? lol
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^i know right. :rolleyes
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She's done A song is born and A Song for XX along with rainy day / Beautiful Day / Days... Anything is possible when it comes to Ayu imo. |
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but seriously, they need fresh ideas. |
She could have a song called Grilled Cheese or Tea Time...
You never know! I'd say that to put limits on Ayu titles = blaaah because then you are totally thrown off by titles like Load of the SHUGYO... |
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A Song for you, A Song for me, A Song for us, A Song for them, A Song for him, A Song for her!
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This song is not for you ~GTFO~
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She should'nt have food name songs cuz those make me hungry!!!
Load of the SHUGYO is different tho, because in context it makes sense. |
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^Hell Yeah! Haha :D
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I read some where that Ayu is secretly a unicorn.
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^and she produces magical mayonnaise.
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As ayu LOVES to take pictures from her phone, I would like to see a song titled "Where is my telephone?" It implies that ayu's diary would stop updating with pictures if this song is released.
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^Haha. You're funny. Ayu should have the title, MONEY too. She loves to wasting her money on her thousands of shoes :D
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Edit: FAKE -__-
This is probably fake, but some people posted the supposed lyrics to Microphone & Last Links on a bulletin board (http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi...27/1268046837/). |
^interesting. wonder if it's true.
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^ Microphone could be correct since that song already aired on the radio apparently. And if Microphone's are correct, Last Links will probably also be correct.
Or they're both made up :D I don't really care about the lyrics before I hear the songs anyway, cause now I've got nothing to link them to.. No melody. |
After re-listening to the Honda CM w/ Microphone a few times (and translating the lyrics to romaji)... it seems like the words add up. One part seems a bit iffy, though. Either they got lucky guessing the lyrics, or those are the real deal :D
And when did Microphone start airing on the radio??? |
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I was checking my facebook this morning and received a very interesting update from Avex Avexnews (Avex's official facebook page):
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/6436/ayufacebook.jpg I really hope this isn't a typo, considering the previous message: http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/9...ufacebook2.jpg but how can you confuse the word "avex" and "ayu"? I've replied to the message asking if it's the Ayu but they don't seem to reply to anything, even facebook messages (I sent one to them about a different matter 2 weeks ago and no response) but who knows? I'll keep an eye on their feed :) |
^Yeah I read that too. I hope it's for real..
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i heard a new double A single is coming july 14
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