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truehappiness 15th December 2009 05:45 PM

Ayu Schedule #4 - TV Appearances, Magazines, etc.
 
If you have any new appearances / magazine news, feel free to post it here. I will be updating from now until whenever. BTW, without being able to quote immel's old post, this is a lot of work. There may be a lot of differences because of this, but this is a neat way to compile all of the Ayu "news" without having to dig through everything. Please refrain from random chatter.

This thread is a source with information on all of Ayumi Hamasaki's Japanese (with a few international exceptions) TV & Magazine appearances together with some miscellaneous items.

2009
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Concert Schedule
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2009-2010 A ~Future Classics~
Spoiler:
12/30 Yoyogi National Gymnasium
12/31 Yoyogi National Gymnasium


a-nation '09

Spoiler:
8/1 Kumamoto: Kumomoto Prefecture Country Park
8/8 Ehime: 愛媛縣總合運動公園・ニンジニアスタジアム(陸上競技場)
8/15 Aichi: Port Messe Nagoya Outdoor Special Venue
8/22 Tokyo: Ajinomoto Stadium
8/23 Tokyo: Ajinomoto Stadium
8/29 Osaka: Nagai Stadium
8/30 Osaka: Nagai Stadium


ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~
Spoiler:
http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/2...2972zg1pt4.gif

More dates were added and the tour ends on October.


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif TV Schedule

Spoiler:
08/08 CDTV
08/09 MUSIC JAPAN [Sunrise]
08/14 MUSIC STATION
08/15 MUSIC FIGHTER [?]
08/17 HEY!HEY!HEY!
08/18 MUSIC FAIR [Sunrise / Sunset / Boys & Girls]
09/26 a-nation '09 on WOWOW
11/15 ASIA TOUR 2008 ~10th Anniversary~ on TBS-ch
11/29 ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~ on TBS-ch
12/11 MUSIC STATION
12/15 BEST ARTIST 2009 [You were... + evolution]
12/19 CDTV
12/25 MUSIC STATION SUPER LIVE 2009 [You were... + Rule]
12/31 COUNTDOWN LIVE 2009-2010 A on TBS-ch
12/31 60th Kouhaku Uta Gassen [Rule]
12/31 CDTV SPECIAL!


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Release Schedule

Spoiler:
01/28 ASIA TOUR 2008 A ~10th Anniversary~
02/25 Rule / Sparkle
03/25 NEXT LEVEL
04/11 Dejideji Diary Collection (2800yen)
05/13 PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 A
06/30 ASIA TOUR 2008 DOCUMENTARY BOOK [postponed/canceled], but said to be coming out some time in December
08/12 Sunrise / Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~
11/07 Calendar 2010
12/29 You were... / BALLAD
12/30[?] ASIA TOUR 2008 DOCUMENT BOOK


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Magazine Appearances

Spoiler:
07/23 ViVi
08/07 SCawaii
08/12 Sweet
12/12 bea's Up
12/23 ViVi
01/07 SCawaii
01/12 Sweet

ViVi Deji Deji Diary 2009 Summary


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif CMs/Tie-ups
Spoiler:
12/25/08 - ? - Honda Zest SPARK - Sparkle
04/08 - Dragon Ball Evolution - Rule
07/09 - Dandy Daddy? [J-Drama] - Sunrise ~LOVE is ALL~ [Sunset was used in ep 3]
07/?? - RIMMEL LONDON tie-up announced
08/?? - Panasonic LUMIX FX60 - Sunset
Mid-December - Tinkerbell and the Moon Rock Image CM Song
01/2010~ (25 episodes) - Soukyuu no Subaru [NHK Saturday Daytime Drama] - BALLAD


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Miscellaneous
Spoiler:
01/05 AT08 DVD cover released on website
01/07 Sparkle chaku-uta out on mu-mo!
01/12 Rule/Sparkle announced for 2/25
-not updating anymore, sorry!-


2008
Spoiler:

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Concert Schedule

ayumi hamasaki ASIA TOUR 2008 A ~10th Anniversary~ (Threads: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5)
Spoiler:
09/20 - Asia World Expo - Hong Kong
09/21 - Asia World Expo - Hong Kong
10/18 - Shanghai Grand Stage - Shanghai
11/01 - Taipei Arena - Taiwan
11/02 - Taipei Arena - Taiwan


a-nation '08 (Thread)
Spoiler:
08/30 - Ajinomoto Stadium - Tokyo
08/31 - Ajinomoto Stadium - Tokyo


PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009 (Thread)
Spoiler:
12/30 - Yoyogi National Gymnasium - Tokyo
12/31 - Yoyogi National Gymnasium - Tokyo


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif TV Schedule

Spoiler:
09/05 - MUSIC STATION
09/12 - MUSIC STATION SP
09/13 - CDTV
09/24 - CDTV 15th Anniversary Premiere Live
09/27 - a-nation '08 on WOWOW
09/29 - HEY!HEY!HEY SP
10/03 - MUSIC STATION SP
11/30 - AT08 6/29 on Channel TBS
12/03 - FNS Kayou Festival
12/05 - MUSIC STATION (performing Days)
12/16 - 1.3 Million Choose (The) Best Artist 2008
12/18 - MUSIC JAPAN
12/20 - CDTV
12/26 - MUSIC STATION SUPER LIVE 2008
12/31 - Kouhaku
12/31 - PREMIUM COUNTDOWN LIVE 2008-2009


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Release Schedule

Spoiler:
09/10 A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ (Threads: #1 #2)
10/30 2009 Calendar
11/26 a-nation '08 DVD (ALL CAST LIVE)
12/17 Days / GREEN (Threads: #1, #2)
01/29 ayumi hamasaki ASIA TOUR 2008 ~10th Anniversary~ (Thread)


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Magazine Appearances

Spoiler:
08/20 VA for Tsutaya [Link]
08/23 ViVi (Cover, Thread)
08/23 VOCE (?? nowhere to be found)
09/12 Sweet (Cover, Thread)
09/12 bea's UP (Cover, Thread)
11/22 ViVi (Thread)
12/06 SCawaii! (Thread)
12/12 Sweet
12/12 bea's up
12/18 Monthly THE TELEVISION
12/27 Cawaii

ViVi Deji Deji Diary 2008 Summary


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif CMs
Spoiler:
Summer '08 weider IN jelly
08/21 ~ ? Panasonic LUMIX FX37 CM "GREEN" (Thread)
12/25 ~ ? Honda Zest Spark CM "Sparkle"


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5261/logoaot4.gif Miscellaneous
Spoiler:
07/15 Wacoal lingerie promotion revealed! (Thread, Hi-res pictures: #1, #2 + #3)
07/21 to 07/28 Ayu goes to Hong Kong and Macau for calendar/magazine photoshoots (Thread, Gallery)
07/30 Rehearsals begin for a-nation '08
08/01 Unreleased single covers leak on Music Station (Thread)
08/06 A COMPLETE set supposedly revealed?! (Picture #1, Picture #2)
08/11 A COMPLETE covers released! (Thread)
08/15 2009 calendar posted on HMV.jp!
08/21 Panasonic LUMIX FX37 CM "GREEN" leaked
08/21 TeamAyu layout changed to reflect A COMPLETE
08/22 tasuku revealed to be arranger of GREEN (Thread)
08/25 Ayu's layout changed to much better one for A COMPLETE! (Thread)
09/02 Ayu announced for National Shanghai Art Festival (Thread)
09/05 A COMPLETE Umbrella announced (Thread)
09/09 Chinese version of Who... announced (Thread)
10/21 GREEN available on dwango.jp (Thread)
10/22 GREEN / Days and Days / GREEN announced for a 12/17 release (Thread)
11/26 GREEN PV released!
11/26 GREEN / Days and Days / GREEN covers out!
12/02 Days PV released!
12/09 Rule is announced as the theme song for the live-action Dragon Ball movie
12/17 Days / GREEN is out in stores!
12/22 Honda Zest Spark CM announced (Thread)
12/24 Ayu falls down stairs and injures her right hand
12/25 Sparkle preview from Zest Spark CM out
12/30 PCDL setlist out from first show
12/31 PCDL broadcast!
01/05 AT08 DVD cover released on website
01/07 Sparkle chaku-uta out on mu-mo!


Sources:
http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/schedule/
AyuLoveAyu
OnlyAyu Blog
AHS
zoominayu
2ch
- and more

Thanks to everyone who is helping me keep the list up to date and to everyone who uploads anything on this schedule. All credit goes to you.

Bigtop 15th December 2009 11:03 PM

Back to the Best Artist 2009 discussion...
 
Back to the discussion from the Best Artist 2009, and here's my say on it:

It was terrible. And I did not even watch it - I just heard from the comments earlier.

Yes, I have heard about it - some people were saying that it was terrible on the "evolution" performance. This is totally unacceptable by my standards: she's supposed to be in top form, but she was not! It is really not acceptable in the ratings.

But of course, everyone makes mistakes.

I just came out of school, and I read further comments about it, and I see they were mostly negative. And I just feel sorry about her apologizing. If you just came here on this, it's already posted in the #3 thread, but this is the #4 thread, so here's the quote that she said in her diary:

Quote:

しかし、、、

今日のエボでの私は、歌い手として、自分的に最低でした。。。。。

何も言い訳はしません。とにかく、悔しいです。

ごめんなさい。

まだまだ、私には勉強が足りないようです。

ホント、私、しっかりしなきゃ!!!!!!!

_____________

However,,,

Today with Evo (evolution), as a singer, I did not good/I did my least. . . . . [w.p: sth like this.. xd]

It does not excuse anything. Anyway, it's unfair.

Sorry.

Still, my preparation was not enough.

Really, I have to improve! ! ! ! ! ! !
Okay, what did she say? She said that it's unfair. That was why this was unacceptable to me. It's just something like a test at school: if you're not prepared, you're not going to do well.

But that's too close to call about the unfair thing between that and an unprepared student who was not ready for a test. By the way, I think that the Best Artist performance was like a major assessment at school - like an exam or so.

What she said seems to be right: she failed the test there. She forgot the lyrics again! Is this "Don't Forget The Lyrics" or what? It seems like that is just a terrible failure - you're performing in the public, being broadcasted to millions of people in Japan, and now all of a sudden Ayu messed up!!? It's kind of ridiculously troublesome here. And I just believe that she needs to be aware more.

I know that this year it has been hard times for her. I mean, last year in late December she fell on the day before MSSL came, and there has been all kinds of issues within her throughout the year, and it seems like that it wasn't her year again. It seems like as if it is now going toward a downward spiral on her career. I mean, now you have to imagine - she may have the potential that her latest single will be facing against a very good Johnny's artist that might have a potential to outrun her, though it's only a limited-release series of three singles released in three consecutive days, and maybe competing with her if the double week features both that artist (Kanjani Eight) and Ayu. And I have heard that this year Ayu did not end the show - Arashi started and ended the show. It seems like the year of 2009 was the year of Arashi, not Ayu whatsoever. I have to be honest. And with her hair that is short as if it would five years ago during the "CAROLS" era? It's fine that she's back blonde, but her hair is somewhat short, so I seem that I don't like it very much. And really, her upcoming single is her 47th single - it's nothing special here! It may do good, but how will it perform? Will her streak REALLY be on the line?

Back to the "evolution" trouble: We know that was quite disappointing. But we know it was her fault for her troubles, and it wasn't her first time. I think that Ayu must have not gotten enough rest, so she'd better rest for a while. And with a ten-day window between Best Artist 2009 and MSSL 2009, she might just have enough time to rest.

By the way, when was the last the she FORGOT the lyrics in a performance? Take a look at the spoiler - it might just surprise you...

Spoiler:
The 2002 edition of Best Artist. Same kind of show, same channel of some sort. Hope that surprised you.

What!? Best Artist 2002!? That's quite surprising... The two most notable times she forgot her lyrics was in 2002 and this year, and they were both in the Best Artist performances!? I forgot about that, but I knew the song was. But it's really surprising that it was the same show where both of her most famous forgot-the-lyric incidents occurred.

It was on December 18th, and she was singing "Voyage". At least this year she performed two; "You were..." was a bit better...

And by the way, did she even post an apology on her mess in 2002? I'm just wondering...


Overall conclusion: It was quite disappointing and an embarrassment. I think it's all because she was not prepared for it, and she needs to take better steps to perform well, especially after too much practicing for the upcoming CDL, the delay of her single and her absence in this year's FNS Music Festival.

As we have heard about, it was Arashi, not Ayu, who ended the show, as well as who started the show. And this year, it has been the year of Arashi, not Ayu, for 2009. I think Ayu has been struggling over the past year, much like I was between somewhere in July of 2008 and the summer of 2009.

In 2010, things will start again from scratch. Clean slate here. And it will be anyone's race until who really performs well in 2010. It's a matter of not when but how these artists perform - that's what I am looking for, because this year has been the most frantic year I've ever seen. At least for 2010 there won't be anything like Arashi's plans did for 2009 as of now...

Hopefully Ayu gets better in 2010, and if we can keep pace on her number of singles (a single in the spring, one in the summer, and one in the holiday season), and she continues her number one streak, she might be the unofficial "artist of the year" with her 50th single happening on the biggest time where artists usually perform - during December - but that's only my estimates and there's no guarantees...

jbrat2219 15th December 2009 11:06 PM

W00T new thread ;D

Smells all nice and clean!

[EDIT]

Bigtop, wth is up with all those words?! :roflmao

zyoeru 16th December 2009 12:56 AM

She did apologize for Voyage, actually. :P

And also what was translated as unfair..it also means IT'S MORTIFYING. :P :)

Bigtop 16th December 2009 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2186704)
Bigtop, wth is up with all those words?! :roflmao

Really, that is my big explanation - what my opinion is - and because it's a new thread, we're trying to resume the discussion...

zyoeru
How did she apologize?

zyoeru 16th December 2009 01:16 AM

During the song she shouted "GOMEN!" Also in my past post I addressed where you said about her saying it was unfair. :P

maikaru 16th December 2009 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2186699)
Back to the discussion from the Best Artist 2009, and here's my say on it:

It was terrible. And I did not even watch it - I just heard from the comments earlier.

Yes, I have heard about it - some people were saying that it was terrible on the "evolution" performance. This is totally unacceptable by my standards: she's supposed to be in top form, but she was not! It is really not acceptable in the ratings.

But of course, everyone makes mistakes.

I just came out of school, and I read further comments about it, and I see they were mostly negative. And I just feel sorry about her apologizing. If you just came here on this, it's already posted in the #3 thread, but this is the #4 thread, so here's the quote that she said in her diary:



Okay, what did she say? She said that it's unfair. That was why this was unacceptable to me. It's just something like a test at school: if you're not prepared, you're not going to do well.

But that's too close to call about the unfair thing between that and an unprepared student who was not ready for a test. By the way, I think that the Best Artist performance was like a major assessment at school - like an exam or so.

What she said seems to be right: she failed the test there. She forgot the lyrics again! Is this "Don't Forget The Lyrics" or what? It seems like that is just a terrible failure - you're performing in the public, being broadcasted to millions of people in Japan, and now all of a sudden Ayu messed up!!? It's kind of ridiculously troublesome here. And I just believe that she needs to be aware more.

I know that this year it has been hard times for her. I mean, last year in late December she fell on the day before MSSL came, and there has been all kinds of issues within her throughout the year, and it seems like that it wasn't her year again. It seems like as if it is now going toward a downward spiral on her career. I mean, now you have to imagine - she may have the potential that her latest single will be facing against a very good Johnny's artist that might have a potential to outrun her, though it's only a limited-release series of three singles released in three consecutive days, and maybe competing with her if the double week features both that artist (Kanjani Eight) and Ayu. And I have heard that this year Ayu did not end the show - Arashi started and ended the show. It seems like the year of 2009 was the year of Arashi, not Ayu whatsoever. I have to be honest. And with her hair that is short as if it would five years ago during the "CAROLS" era? It's fine that she's back blonde, but her hair is somewhat short, so I seem that I don't like it very much. And really, her upcoming single is her 47th single - it's nothing special here! It may do good, but how will it perform? Will her streak REALLY be on the line?

Back to the "evolution" trouble: We know that was quite disappointing. But we know it was her fault for her troubles, and it wasn't her first time. I think that Ayu must have not gotten enough rest, so she'd better rest for a while. And with a ten-day window between Best Artist 2009 and MSSL 2009, she might just have enough time to rest.

By the way, when was the last the she FORGOT the lyrics in a performance? Take a look at the spoiler - it might just surprise you...

Spoiler:
The 2002 edition of Best Artist. Same kind of show, same channel of some sort. Hope that surprised you.

What!? Best Artist 2002!? That's quite surprising... The two most notable times she forgot her lyrics was in 2002 and this year, and they were both in the Best Artist performances!? I forgot about that, but I knew the song was. But it's really surprising that it was the same show where both of her most famous forgot-the-lyric incidents occurred.

It was on December 18th, and she was singing "Voyage". At least this year she performed two; "You were..." was a bit better...

And by the way, did she even post an apology on her mess in 2002? I'm just wondering...


Overall conclusion: It was quite disappointing and an embarrassment. I think it's all because she was not prepared for it, and she needs to take better steps to perform well, especially after too much practicing for the upcoming CDL, the delay of her single and her absence in this year's FNS Music Festival.

As we have heard about, it was Arashi, not Ayu, who ended the show, as well as who started the show. And this year, it has been the year of Arashi, not Ayu, for 2009. I think Ayu has been struggling over the past year, much like I was between somewhere in July of 2008 and the summer of 2009.

In 2010, things will start again from scratch. Clean slate here. And it will be anyone's race until who really performs well in 2010. It's a matter of not when but how these artists perform - that's what I am looking for, because this year has been the most frantic year I've ever seen. At least for 2010 there won't be anything like Arashi's plans did for 2009 as of now...

Hopefully Ayu gets better in 2010, and if we can keep pace on her number of singles (a single in the spring, one in the summer, and one in the holiday season), and she continues her number one streak, she might be the unofficial "artist of the year" with her 50th single happening on the biggest time where artists usually perform - during December - but that's only my estimates and there's no guarantees...

There is no where she said "it's unfair" in her post.

She said this:

Today's Evolution, as a singer, it was my worst point.
I can't make any excuses, all I can say is, that I regret.
I am so, so sorry.
It seems that my studies are not enough,
I need to get serious with myself.

----

Anyways, I think with this mishap, she is really gonna look at her skills.
She needs to repair her voice and mistakes.

It's no way that her ear problem made her voice go like this. Its been her careless attitude, for example eating spicy foods when she herself said its not good for her voice. Even if it's such small thing, anything that will make her voice better is worth it now.

I really think she might be smoking sometimes now, because I dont really understand to explain how her voice could get worse when it was getting so much better in 2003 and 2004 from the start of her career. I was reading Japan Yahoo, and everyone was commenting on this fact, that there's no reason about it, that her ear problem is big, but if it was that problem, she should have made music to work about that problem. But I think its more than that.. she must have been doing something which was really distroying her voice.. and its really painful to think about

I really really loved her voice before, but this is just bad... I dont even wanna listen to her sing old songs now, because its almost for sure she will mess it up... for example Carols? Could you imagine??? no...

I am really really disappointed in this performance... and embarrassed about it...

I wish she would really follow her words, and get serious if she wanna call herself a singer.

Sorry it's a bad post about Ayu... but I was really disappointed about this performance.

zyoeru 16th December 2009 01:20 AM

Thank you, maikaru, for saying EXACTLY what I was thinking.

pommy48 16th December 2009 01:22 AM

Some things can be lost in translation

And Ayu forgotten her lyrics many times already, though most of them are in concerts!

AyUta 16th December 2009 01:26 AM

Poor ayu, you guys are so mean :eviltongu She did her best for everyone!

Bigtop 16th December 2009 01:28 AM

And by the way, was Ayu the last one before Arashi? Or was Ayaka the last one before Arashi, meaning that Ayu went after Ayaka?

zyoeru 16th December 2009 01:28 AM

AyUta I don't doubt she did~...but she needs to improve also.

maikaru 16th December 2009 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 2186823)
Poor ayu, you guys are so mean :eviltongu She did her best for everyone!

If she herself said that she needed to improve, of course even she knows she didnt do her best...

AyUta 16th December 2009 01:31 AM

^ Well, yeah, she does need to improve, I agree :). She did her best though and I enjoyed her performance ^_^.

zyoeru 16th December 2009 01:33 AM

I believe she's always trying her best, no matter what. But obviously your best varies constantly, right?! :)
I enjoyed You were... if that makes any difference. XD

AyUta 16th December 2009 01:38 AM

^ Yes, she is :yes. I love how she always wants her shows to be fun for everyone, and enjoyable. &that's true, it does vary. :)

LOL, You Were was great! I think she just can't sing crazy upbeat songs anymore, at least her old ones. She's more attuned to ballads now. I wonder what her next upbeat song will be like. Ah, I'm already thinking way too ahead of myself XD

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zyoeru (Post 2186838)
I believe she's always trying her best, no matter what. But obviously your best varies constantly, right?! :)
I enjoyed You were... if that makes any difference. XD

yeah, it's hard to maintain something and Ayu has done alot to make sure the best! but i feel really pitty for her Evolution performance..like something wrong,she went black out suddenly,turn her back around, i think at that moment she was very confused,very embarrassed and things went even worst and she said "Gomen". from her face expression, i knew she didn't happy after that.oh,poor Ayu,hope you'll improve and do the best for another performance after this.:yes


EDIT: she like Arashi too? and the song "Love So Sweet", that's great,hope she loves Hana Yori Dango too XD

EDIT: i never watch Ayu like that when she forgot the lyric in her concert,it was like " only God know how i feel right now,just have to be strong and continue till the last line".strong Ayu!

love in music 16th December 2009 01:46 AM

Yeah I'm concerned about her voice too. I remember when I took singing lessons a long while ago my teacher said something about how cheerleaders usually can't be singers because they scream so much.. and screaming is what ayu does the most of lately so that can't be good for it.

AyUta 16th December 2009 01:47 AM

I felt so bad when she turned around. Poor thing got really embarrassed :(.

crea_spain 16th December 2009 02:03 AM

Ganbatte kudasai nee Ayu-chan :yes

hidekirby 16th December 2009 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2186815)
I wish she would really follow her words, and get serious if she wanna call herself a singer.

This.
It's been some time ayu's lives are disappointing for me... And I don't think the "ear issue" is the only problem. Seriously, she had troubles with her ear since the beginning, it's not something new. She didn't became half deaf like that. So there is something else I'm sure.
I just hope she will find the answer and try to give her best as she said. I fell in love with her voice (and melodies obviously), not her dresses, her dancing skills, the amazing props she brings on stage... (I'd rather see her sat on a chair just singing more often!)
I wish she would focus more on her voice and I hope she will.

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2186815)

Sorry it's a bad post about Ayu... but I was really disappointed about this performance.

See, now you know how I feel sometimes. :) And just because it is a negative post about her, does not mean it is a bad post or you are not a fan or anything like that.

I agree with everything you said about her voice. And to me, the damage does sound like the same kind of damage you get when you either drink alcohol and/or smoke too much or for too long.

maikaru 16th December 2009 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2186936)
See, now you know how I feel sometimes. :) And just because it is a negative post about her, does not mean it is a bad post or you are not a fan or anything like that.

I agree with everything you said about her voice. And to me, the damage does sound like the same kind of damage you get when you either drink alcohol and/or smoke too much or for too long.

I were okay with Arena Tour, cause I thought her voice was getting a bit better,
But recently, You were performances really got me to think that she needs to repair her voice. I was watching Countdown 2003-2004, and was thinking that she couldnt sing WHATEVER like that again, even though she sang it 4 or 5 years after releasing it, it sounded so much better than before. It's been 5 years since she released Carols, could she sing Carols better than before? I dont think so after hearing You were...

Again, I hope that she will follow her own words, and do something about this problems...

We know she likes to drink, but... I wonder what else it is.

I feel really bad about saying things like this, but... I am very very disappointed. And you all know me, it takes big things to make me disappointed about Ayu... ahaha.

Bigtop 16th December 2009 03:33 AM

I think Ayu has got to turn around to the right direction for the MSSL, because I think she just went into the wrong direction in the Best Artist...

Andrenekoi 16th December 2009 04:10 AM

Still find that she was sick on Best Artists, cuz her voice was REALLY strange

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2186936)
See, now you know how I feel sometimes. :) And just because it is a negative post about her, does not mean it is a bad post or you are not a fan or anything like that.

I agree with everything you said about her voice. And to me, the damage does sound like the same kind of damage you get when you eitherdrink alcohol and/or smoke too much or for too long.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2186973)
Still find that she was sick on Best Artists, cuz her voice was REALLY strange

These! i've been thinking about this after the show! something wrong somewhere or she's too tired with the "future classic" preparation? :shrug

3 days to go for the next show, i really hope Ayu can do something to overcome the prob :(

Max_ZZZ 16th December 2009 04:44 AM

ok... honestly...

i understand the different stances on this performance, the disappoint in the lyrics forgotten etc etc and it's all fine and whatever

but after reading the LONG INTENSE SPEECHES ABOUT THEIR "EMBARASSMENT" for the forgotten lyrics

firstly LMAO
secondly WTF honestly chill? lol i'm not even going to bother saying anything after this because how can you feel so strongly against her for forgetting her lyrics honestly in my opinion it's just GET OVER IT she forgot her lyrics her career isn't spiraling downhill because the "evolution curse" has been broken LOL who cares whatever like you want to be intense about a chorus mix up... suck it up i can't believe people feel like she needed to actually apologize or she "wouldn't be forgiven" kind-of-mentality. LOL COME ON who dubbed her ayubot, empress robot of j-pop

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 04:53 AM

lol..yepp you're rite somehow she still Ayu, whenever she do something like very epic or very good people like "wow! awesome! i love u Ayu and bla,bla,bla..' and when she forgot the lyric or came out with not really good single, " she's go down to hill, and so on.."

i know things work like that,it's normal i guess,sounds cliche but it's the reality! not trying to offend or what just giving statement XD

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2186958)

I feel really bad about saying things like this, but... I am very very disappointed. And you all know me, it takes big things to make me disappointed about Ayu... ahaha.

Yes, that's true. haha :) And that is also what helps convince me that it is not just a small problem anymore if even you are commenting about it.

I totally understand what you mean about CDL 04/05. I just watched CDL 05/06 and in the encore accoustic section I remembered why I loved her vocals so much.

btw, the forgetting of the lyrics doesn't bother me. It's the quality of the vocals. Also, I'm not sure if she actually forgot the lyrics or not or simply ran out of breath.

pchan1986 16th December 2009 05:22 AM

omygoodness she apologized??? she doesnt have to! No ones perfect when it comes to singing live compared to a recording in the studio. i love her for who she is and she does have great vocals. if you work as hard as she does to keep us to be her fans, we should support her no matter what her flaws are. Ganbatte ne Ayu!

Bigtop 16th December 2009 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuWorld (Post 2186981)
3 days to go for the next show, i really hope Ayu can do something to overcome the prob :(

I think that one is CDTV, which was already pre-recorded before this...

And what'sthis on Ayu's official website? Take a look: http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/news/091215.html

truehappiness 16th December 2009 06:17 AM

That's a calendar for cell phones.

The vocals at Best Artist were a little weird... they felt louder than her usual TV lives, you know?

majrakun 16th December 2009 06:27 AM

Was Best Artist live?

I thought the You were... performance was good. The two lives actually made the song grew on me.

Evolution, on the other hand, was messed up. Something, maybe everything is wrong D: The music and her vocals weren't in sync at all. I'm glad that she acknowledged this though, so that's a good thing. Hopefully she'll do something about it.

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2187045)
I think that one is CDTV, which was already pre-recorded before this...

And what'sthis on Ayu's official website? Take a look: http://avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/news/091215.html

really? i didn't know about that. so this upcoming show is not going to be the live show?

Lanz16 16th December 2009 07:26 AM

I felt really bad after I've read some comments and I watched the video again and honestly, its a train-wreck for evolution and not for You were...
Artists aren't perfect and there are chances that they can miss big time.


I hope she could do better next time. And I'll still support her despite of that. ;)

freedreamer 16th December 2009 09:49 AM

wow it's just ONE live and it made everyone embarrassed and...i dunno what you call this. But...geez.
Like i mentioned in the previous thread, she still tried to do whatever she can at that point of time. She could tottally just start getting the crowd up while Peko and Yoko continue singing.
Yes, Ayu's voice has been rather shaky already..I thought we acknowledged that? It's just ONE live omg..and everyone is saying it as if it's the end of Ayu..
And she would only know about how she performed after reviewing the performance isn't it. Given the condition at that time, she was just living up the atmosphere. I think she started to falter and kinda get nervous more after she realized she forgot her lyrics..or was just too tired to continue that whole string of words.
At the least she dares to admit and improve. And I applaud her for that again.

ayumisrael 16th December 2009 09:51 AM

Well it seems that the Japanese loved evolution's performance since its full PV popped in recochoku on #75. XD

Mai82Go 16th December 2009 10:58 AM

^Well, I think some got reminded what a great song evolution is and decided for a high quality version :D

Now that I thought about it, I have to agree with freedreamer. I was pretty mad at Ayu, too, and disappointed. But Ayu is probably the most embarassed of us all. It must have been really hard on her even to the point that she had to apologize. If it happens again, it's not good. But for this one time, I think we should forgive her. I mean I think she knows how embarassing that was, on Best Artist and all....but if even her fans give up on her after such a thing, it's kind of sad. I think we should just support her and let it slip this one time.

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 12:32 PM

yepp, there's no way i didn't love her anymore just because she forgot the lyric for the important show like that. that's really ok Ayu.i love you because of your talent and personality.you still did a great job for your fans and i always admire the strenght that you have. being close to the fans by straight away apologize just a few hours after the show..there's only one Ayumi Hamasaki!

Ayu_Ready 16th December 2009 12:52 PM

How many singers do apologize ? Ayu is really unique ^^

thangkhung91 16th December 2009 01:22 PM

WHY are some of you making such a big deal out of her forgetting ONE line in evolution???? Please, can someone explain that to me? Yes, she has sung this song thousands of times blablabla, but come on. Seriously? She is preparing her CDL, practicing I don't know how many hours a day with thousands of things in her head. SHE'S A FREAKIN' HUMAN BEING! You try preparing a concert, sleep next to nothing and stand on that stage and sing that song.

Yes, I'm going all defense about this and ayu but I just don't understand why some see her forgetting a part of the lyrics as the end of the world...

Oh and I watched the HQ version of her two performances. I actually enjoyed you were... more than the one from MS. But I still prefer BALLAD so I I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she'll be performing it, or at least at the CDL :)

Mai82Go 16th December 2009 01:46 PM

^It's not only her forgetting the lyrics but the bad vocal performance that has most people upset, and nobody ever said it's the end of the world and Ayu's over.

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 01:55 PM

no big deal! let's left aside what has happen..
it'd be nice if she can perform You were..at CDL like she perform Memorial Adresse at AT03-04, i miss that performance. just her alone singing with full of emotion NO DANCERS XD! and BALLAD like she perform Green at AT09, with that pink dress *drool*

maikaru 16th December 2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thangkhung91 (Post 2187284)
WHY are some of you making such a big deal out of her forgetting ONE line in evolution???? Please, can someone explain that to me? Yes, she has sung this song thousands of times blablabla, but come on. Seriously? She is preparing her CDL, practicing I don't know how many hours a day with thousands of things in her head. SHE'S A FREAKIN' HUMAN BEING! You try preparing a concert, sleep next to nothing and stand on that stage and sing that song.

Yes, I'm going all defense about this and ayu but I just don't understand why some see her forgetting a part of the lyrics as the end of the world...

Oh and I watched the HQ version of her two performances. I actually enjoyed you were... more than the one from MS. But I still prefer BALLAD so I I'm keeping my fingers crossed that she'll be performing it, or at least at the CDL :)

I am not even cared about the fact she missed a line. Evolution performance was the worst performance she ever gave, because she was out of breath, out of the tunes, and of course, she forgot her lines.

I defended Ayu this year and last year when other people say "lipsync this" and "bad vocal that" but this time, I cant defend it, because what people are saying is true, that was the worst performance of her career.

I know she herself is embarrassed, but I wish she would do something about it, I wish she would fix her voice, and I wish she could go back to singing like she was singing in CDL 2004 - 2005. The vocals were perfect in this performances, especially To Be and Key, and even then, she had her ear problems.

I got really disappointed by this performance, because its Best Artist performance, its a popular show with many people watching... how could she be that careless about it??? She has to show her best, but this wasnt her best. You were was screaming, come on...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WovaMNyRpnU

This is Ayumi Hamasaki in the video... The person who were singing Evolution was not this same person... I want those vocals to return! When we didnt have to say that "oh there's Ayumi again with bad vocals on TV." What about Haru yo, Koi vocals? They were some greatest TV vocals from her...

Anyways, I will stop to rant because I am just really frustrate and disappoint... I want her to regain her power in song...

AyUmIXx 16th December 2009 02:15 PM

oh come on, she's been so tiring for all the year..
it doesn't matter if she doesn't come out perfect once in a while~
me too, admit that she sounded worse in Best Artist.. but i don't really care about it..
all i care that she has fun as for now after all the hectic schedule..
she may have really tired in preparing the count down live...
and probably her ear problem does effect her vocal? who knows...
it's only been almost 2 years when she has to adapt with her ear condition..so give her a break~
and to be honest, Ayu is not really a great singer but what i love about her, her personality, her strength, her kindness, her talent in writing lyrics.. and etc...

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mai82Go (Post 2187304)
^It's not only her forgetting the lyrics but the bad vocal performance that has most people upset, and nobody ever said it's the end of the world and Ayu's over.

Right, I don't think very many people care about the lyrics thing, it is the quality of vocals and its definitely not just one time, it is one of several. Only this was one of the most obvious ones.

hidekirby 16th December 2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2187315)
oh come on, she's been so tiring for all the year..
it doesn't matter if she doesn't come out perfect once in a while~
me too, admit that she sounded worse in Best Artist.. but i don't really care about it..
all i care that she has fun as for now after all the hectic schedule..
she may have really tired in preparing the count down live...
and probably her ear problem does effect her vocal? who knows...
it's only been almost 2 years when she has to adapt with her ear condition..so give her a break~
and to be honest, Ayu is not really a great singer but what i love about her, her personality, her strength, her kindness, her talent in writing lyrics.. and etc...

She had far more crazier schedules in the past yet she could make awesome performances...
And she also had time to adapt her singing since her ear problem is not something new. Ok, she became half deaf lately that's true but well... I don't think it's the main problem. :shrug

love in music 16th December 2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2187310)
Evolution performance was the worst performance she ever gave, because she was out of breath, out of the tunes, and of course, she forgot her lines.

I think it is the worst performance of evolution (or close to the worst one) but it's probably a little dramatic to say it's her worst performance ever.. She still isn't as bad as she was in some of the performances at CDL 07-08, or this disgrace of a performance.

AyUmIXx 16th December 2009 04:13 PM

^
but she has never done a live tour concert for almost half year, maybe?
she's exhausted, maybe that's the reason of why she didn't appear in some big yearly events?

we never know what cause her being so bad lately.. probably, she's sick or something..
or could it possibly, the deaf on the left ear effects the right ear? we never know~
but during arena tour NEXT LEVEL, she was still fine, i mean her vocal~

but whatever, i still enjoy her performance despite of her bad vocal~ i still can stand it..

aura~ 16th December 2009 04:14 PM

media info updated at TA:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6589/mediab.png

I think we already know about some of this.. anyway, here you have it ^^

noidea 16th December 2009 04:17 PM

*drops*
You Were... was ok, evolution was horrid. I can't remember a worse vocal performance in her entire career. This is the first time I actively noticed her going off-key, she was horribly out of breath in a song that(aside the last few notes before the yeahs in the chorus) is really easy to breath properly and...well, it just sucked o.0 I didn't think she would ever disappoint me more with a performance than Kouhaku last year, but she did...at least she noticed it and will hopefully work on her vocals. I'm afraid CDL0910 might be around the level of CDL0708.

love in music 16th December 2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2187416)
media info updated at TA:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/6589/mediab.png

I think we already know about some of this.. anyway, here you have it ^^

Thanks for the info! Yay for more magazines, I hope they'll be something good.

AyuWorld 16th December 2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2187415)
^
but she has never done a live tour concert for almost half year, maybe?
she's exhausted, maybe that's the reason of why she didn't appear in some big yearly events?

we never know what cause her being so bad lately.. probably, she's sick or something..
or could it possibly, the deaf on the left ear effects the right ear? we never know~
but during arena tour NEXT LEVEL, she was still fine, i mean her vocal~

but whatever, i still enjoy her performance despite of her bad vocal~ i still can stand it..

hope that everything is fine with her right ear :thud yepp still enjoy it! waiting for other peroformance.

freedreamer 16th December 2009 04:26 PM

I bet the next time she EVER sings evolution again PROPERLY (duh she will)..people will all jump and say she lipsynched...watch this.

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUmIXx (Post 2187415)

we never know what cause her being so bad lately.. probably, she's sick or something..
or could it possibly, the deaf on the left ear effects the right ear? we never know~
but during arena tour NEXT LEVEL, she was still fine, i mean her vocal~

Nothing with her ear should have anything to do with being out of breath.

waterballoon 16th December 2009 04:30 PM

I just found it weird how she sounded great in PCDL, sounded good in a-nation, sounded... not so good in AT 09, and now to this standard in evolution in Best Artist... her voice is TOO erratic for a singer; it's kinda scaring me...

noidea 16th December 2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2187426)
I bet the next time she EVER sings evolution again PROPERLY (duh she will)..people will all jump and say she lipsynched...watch this.

people never said she lipped evolution because she sang good...but because she loves to reuse one and the same vocal track and you need to have a really bad memory to not notice.

Actually I think her best evolution performances for me, AT05 and CDL0506, are live, and I don't think they ever have been questioned

Andrenekoi 16th December 2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2187434)
people never said she lipped evolution because she sang good...but because she loves to reuse one and the same vocal track and you need to have a really bad memory to not notice.

Actually I think her best evolution performances for me, AT05 and CDL0506, are live, and I don't think they ever have been questioned

Yeah, yeah Noidea... everything is lip-synched... she isn't even shouting "arigatou gozaimasu" in the end of the concerts, it's a pre-recorded track... actually, she is totally mute and they are using a software to reproduce her voice... sometimes they do it really flawed so people can't notice she can't speak anymore

noidea 16th December 2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2187444)
Yeah, yeah Noidea... everything is lip-synched... she isn't even shouting "arigatou gozaimasu" in the end of the concerts, it's a pre-recorded track... actually, she is totally mute and they are using a software to reproduce her voice... sometimes they do it really flawed so people can't notice she can't speak anymore

you pissed at me because I wasnt in msn for over a month? o.0



xD

Andrenekoi 16th December 2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2187447)
you pissed at me because I wasnt in msn for over a month? o.0



xD

Not only this (I miss u ;-;) but i'm really tired of all this lip-synching bs! >< People comparing live performances to see if they sound the same? People watching the videos over and over again to see if her mouth is in syncrony with the sound? Sorry, but this is just sick

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2187444)
Yeah, yeah Noidea... everything is lip-synched... she isn't even shouting "arigatou gozaimasu" in the end of the concerts, it's a pre-recorded track... actually, she is totally mute and they are using a software to reproduce her voice... sometimes they do it really flawed so people can't notice she can't speak anymore

There is no need to get into that, especially since he pointed out his favorite live performances of Evolution. How come it seems that people that complain about not wanting to talk about lipsynching, always end up talking about it anyways? :) This is about her LIVE vocals being bad; not about her lip synched performances.

And god, look at the Tohoshinki fans spamming that poll. lol.

Andrenekoi 16th December 2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2187488)
There is no need to get into that, especially since he pointed out his favorite live performances of Evolution. How come it seems that people that complain about not wanting to talk about lipsynching, always end up talking about it anyways? :) This is about her LIVE vocals being bad; not about her lip synched performances.

And god, look at the Tohoshinki fans spamming that poll. lol.

Well, I wasn't the one bringing that to the topic... ~~'

jbrat2219 16th December 2009 07:57 PM

Question, does Ayu usually do two TV shows before CDL each year?

noidea 16th December 2009 08:00 PM

yes, she did CDTV special more than once, which is on New Years eve, but she didnt do it last year

Diana 16th December 2009 09:06 PM

I was hoping to see when AT NEXT LEVEL will be released :( Oh well.. Hope soon! BUT - COUNTDOWN LIVE 2009-2010 A ~Future Classics~ WHAAA???!! =O I'm really interested!! Thank you for info truehappiness!

Zemus 16th December 2009 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2187565)
Question, does Ayu usually do two TV shows before CDL each year?

Not anymore. Back in 2001 and 2002 she did Japan Record Awards + Kouhaku + CDL + CDTV SP. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by noidea (Post 2187567)
yes, she did CDTV special more than once, which is on New Years eve, but she didnt do it last year

Note that CDTV SP is taking place after Ayu's CDL. The show usually ends at 4-5 AM.

Ayumiko 16th December 2009 09:21 PM

I was just watching her old concerts and tv performances and I realized how different her singing is now and how I miss the way she used to sing. I like how her voice is deeper now compared to before but the technique/the way she sings now is really not good. Its weird coz she was fine during s/s/ & a-nation. She should really cut back on the drinks and spicy food...and work on her vocals. As a big fan of hers, it really sucks to read bad comments on her singing but I can't disagree coz I also think so too. :no

SunshineSlayer 16th December 2009 09:57 PM

^ Well as already known, I don't think she was ok during the Sunrise lives - it was more like rapping than singing I felt. A-Nation was definitely sung completely live, but (and its a big 'but') for sure Avex did lots of vocal enhancements on all the performers I think. If you compare the news clips of anyone to what Avex released later, its like night and day the difference in quality - suddenly everyone was sounding near perfect. So I see it as more of a consistant decline and not so much as her having ups and downs this year.

Ironically though, I though that one of her best vocals on the Next Level tour was Evolution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2187545)
Well, I wasn't the one bringing that to the topic... ~~'

Neither was no idea actually. Also the last time this topic got brought up, it wasn't by no idea or myself either, but by someone who says they don't like to talk about it. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2187565)
Question, does Ayu usually do two TV shows before CDL each year?

She used to do three actually. Kohaku, Japan Record Awards, and CDTV Super Live.

Oops. Zemus beat me to it. :)

aloopy 17th December 2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zemus (Post 2187612)
Not anymore. Back in 2001 and 2002 she did Japan Record Awards + Kouhaku + CDL + CDTV SP. :)

wow I never knew she did that many shows on one night back then... damn lol

Ayu_Ready 17th December 2009 12:42 PM

I think she was just tired and maybe she had a bad new or something :/ all is possible but for one time I don't worry ^^

njanjayrp 17th December 2009 01:11 PM

Now that I watched the perf. in HD, I have to say that I think she actually handled You were... very well :) evolution was bad, especially the first verse.

Linoa62 17th December 2009 02:02 PM

It was said before, but it's now official, Ayu will indeed sing You were... & Rule at MSSL
Complete setlist of all the singers who will be there :

Spoiler:

2009/12/25
milk / aiko
みんな空の下 / 絢香
Everything
Believe / 嵐
YELL / いきものがかり
RIVER / AKB48
366日 / HY
Someday
ふたつの唇 / EXILE
バイバイ / 大塚 愛
RESCUE
ONE DROP / KAT-TUN
Love Forever / 加藤ミリヤ×清水翔太
急☆上☆Show!! / 関ジャニ∞
Butterfly / 木村カエラ
スワンソング / KinKi Kids
君にサヨナラを
白い恋人達 / 桑田佳祐
Lick me / 倖田來未
虹 / コブクロ
明日がくるなら / JUJU with JAY'ED
Alright!! / Superfly
スーパースター★
そっと きゅっと / SMAP
Stand by U / 東方神起
太陽と砂漠のバラ / TOKIO
流れ星 / 中島美嘉
もっと… / 西野カナ
恋のABO / NEWS
You were...
Rule / 浜崎あゆみ

ワンルーム・ディスコ / Perfume
僕は君に恋をする / 平井 堅
ガラガラ GO!! / BIGBANG
化身
はつ恋 / 福山雅治
見つめていたい / flumpool
GUILTY
スピリット / V6
クリスマスメドレー / Hey! Say! JUMP
アニマロッサ / ポルノグラフィティ
ひまわり / 遊助
虹 / ゆず
WAO! / ユニコーン
Hurry Xmas / L'Arc~en~Ciel
Sakura / レミオロメン



Source : ayuchina

TITANIC 17th December 2009 02:10 PM

^ wooow.. she will sing 2 songs and only her sing more than 1 song. good t see another performance of Rule but I like to see NEXT LEVEL

AyuWorld 17th December 2009 02:13 PM

yeah, Ayu rule! well hope this time better performance!

roanmy 17th December 2009 02:14 PM

I wonder how rule is gonna sound considering how evolution sounded O_o

Aderianu 17th December 2009 02:58 PM

wow! two songs again
she has great promotion this year

truehappiness 17th December 2009 03:41 PM

If MSSL is You were... and Rule, then what will CDTV's special be? tokyoxjapanxfan initially said his roommate saw the CDTV recording, but used "Super Live" to describe it. Perhaps they saw the MSSL?

Linoa62 17th December 2009 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2188288)
If MSSL is You were... and Rule, then what will CDTV's special be? tokyoxjapanxfan initially said his roommate saw the CDTV recording, but used "Super Live" to describe it. Perhaps they saw the MSSL?

She'll maybe sing those songs at MSSL and at CDTV Special?

Aderianu 17th December 2009 04:22 PM

I thought MSSL goes live...

waterballoon 17th December 2009 04:29 PM

Interesting combo with a ballad and a rock song. can't wait!

AyuGAME 17th December 2009 05:53 PM

she always did a great job singing rule, and so far...she sing you were...nicely...so i think her mssl performance will be a decent one...

Linoa62 17th December 2009 08:54 PM

Is that site trustworthy? Because there is a list of Kouhaku performances for this year, and according to this site Ayu will sing M and Sunrise :

http://www.sound-cafe.jp/biglobe/camp_2009kouhaku.php

Source : ayuchina

truehappiness 17th December 2009 08:57 PM

Those all say "osusume songs" before them... so they look like songs that people would recommend from the artists, not the setlist.

Linoa62 17th December 2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2188468)
Those all say "osusume songs" before them... so they look like songs that people would recommend from the artists, not the setlist.

Thank you for this information!
I was really not sure about this, on ayuchina it seemed it was introduced like it was the real thing XD
Sorry about that so -_-

love in music 17th December 2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2188465)
Perhaps the BEST ARTIST situation just got blown up into more than it should've been? After all, her MS performance of You were... was pretty good.

Yeah and we saw evolution at the NL tour and it was nowhere near as bad as this and it wasn't that long ago. I think she just messed up on that one performance. We'll just have to see from the upcoming lives we get if it was just a one time thing.

njanjayrp 17th December 2009 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 2188465)
Perhaps the BEST ARTIST situation just got blown up into more than it should've been? After all, her MS performance of You were... was pretty good.

I didn't think You were... was bad at all.

hidekirby 17th December 2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by identity (Post 2188479)
Yeah and we saw evolution at the NL tour and it was nowhere near as bad as this and it wasn't that long ago. I think she just messed up on that one performance. We'll just have to see from the upcoming lives we get if it was just a one time thing.

Yeah but it's obvious they edited it...

Andrenekoi 17th December 2009 10:08 PM

^U can make anything sound better by editing, but u can't do miracles... there are lots of recordings of bad vocalists where they go off-tune ON STUDIO and they can't totally fix it...

SunshineSlayer 17th December 2009 10:15 PM

^ Well at least I know that when she did Evolution at the Happy X'Mas show last year, it was pretty much as bad as the Best Artist one.

hidekirby 17th December 2009 10:16 PM

Oh I really don't want to mean it was good = so edited. No, just that you can't really rely on ayu's TV tour broadcasts nowadays (except CDLs) to say she sounds good.
Yet I've seen some performances, off-tune in TV and like perfect in dvd... (CDL 2007-2008 for example)

jbrat2219 18th December 2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 2188509)
Oh I really don't want to mean it was good = so edited. No, just that you can't really rely on ayu's TV tour broadcasts nowadays (except CDLs) to say she sounds good.
Yet I've seen some performances, off-tune in TV and like perfect in dvd... (CDL 2007-2008 for example)

07- 08 made sense though.... that was horrendous lol. It had to be fixed lol.

AyUta 18th December 2009 01:34 AM

I hope she does well on Rule >_<.

Bigtop 18th December 2009 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 2188659)
I hope she does well on Rule >_<.

She'd better be...did she do well on her March 27th Music Station performance? I'm just wondering... :innocent

love in music 18th December 2009 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2188694)
She'd better be...did she do well on her March 27th Music Station performance? I'm just wondering... :innocent

Yeah, it was good! I liked all of her Rule lives so far.

SunshineSlayer 18th December 2009 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2188694)
She'd better be...did she do well on her March 27th Music Station performance? I'm just wondering... :innocent

Depends on who you ask. :) But for her current vocal state it wasn't bad. Both You Were and Rule are shouty songs to begin with so since she mostly shouts in her performances these days, they probably will be at least bearable.

Ayumiko 18th December 2009 07:51 AM

I personally liked the MS rule and you were... performances...so hopefully the MSSL will be as good.

Midori-chan 18th December 2009 08:01 AM

Oh, I can't wait for that "Christmas Special" on Music Station! I'm sooooo looking forward to these two songs! <3

s1dafg 18th December 2009 11:28 AM

http://hiphotos.baidu.com/man0230/pi...4f9e2fb438.jpg

:luv2

noidea 18th December 2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby (Post 2188509)
Oh I really don't want to mean it was good = so edited. No, just that you can't really rely on ayu's TV tour broadcasts nowadays (except CDLs) to say she sounds good.
Yet I've seen some performances, off-tune in TV and like perfect in dvd... (CDL 2007-2008 for example)

For DVDs you will always have some editing, at least an autotuner running over it that keeps all notes on pitch(that takes a few minutes for a complete concert), so I think they will probably put an autotuner over it as well on TV, but bad breathing for example can't be corrected and that IMO was the main problem in that TV performance, so I guess we can say she did a much better job in her tour

AyuWorld 18th December 2009 03:48 PM

so CDTV show is tomorrow, at what time? she's going to perform what song?


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