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Andrenekoi 9th February 2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3263248)
So are nearly all her male dancers 😌

Not against they being naked either

Gustavopc 9th February 2018 11:46 AM

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//ABEST 9th February 2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3263098)
I hope Timmy goes full naked for PoM

:yes i bet he is hot af without clothes :luv2 his tranny clothes make him look bad, he is handsome as he is

EndOfTheWorld 9th February 2018 02:15 PM

This thread is going downhill.:laugh:dead

Katsuyuki012 9th February 2018 02:17 PM

At least this wish of you all is most likely to be fulfilled to some extent. :-P

hud 9th February 2018 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by //ABEST (Post 3263264)
:yes i bet he is hot af without clothes :luv2 his tranny clothes make him look bad, he is handsome as he is

please don't use the word "tranny" it's so offensive. he makes DRAG. it's ART! :yes

but yeah I agree with you! I would really like to see him with a toned down outfit for a change. he's so talented - even doing drag, and I would love to see only his vocals shine so Ayu fans could be cool with him.

attractive nausea 9th February 2018 03:24 PM

^ I think japanese fans like Timmy already

_dandy_ 9th February 2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris85 (Post 3263224)
He's well built.

Sure, but that's for a different show. Ayu isn't known for overly sexualized content (compared with other artists - especially some of the american ones, who are downright vulgar), and I don't think this is the place for it.

I'm no prude by any stretch. I just don't want to see Ayu concerts turning in a contest to see who the bigger skank is. :-p

Andrenekoi 9th February 2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3263272)
Sure, but that's for a different show. Ayu isn't known for overly sexualized content (compared with other artists - especially some of the american ones, who are downright vulgar), and I don't think this is the place for it.

I'm no prude by any stretch. I just don't want to see Ayu concerts turning in a contest to see who the bigger skank is. :-p

Ayu's image is highly sexualized at least since Loveppears era, it's just not sexual on a western-like way. She isn't always having half naked/full naked photoshoots and wearing fetish outfits for tours just because it's fun :P This girl actually has a music video taken straigh out of fetish porn aesthetic.

Jolin Tsai even said once she didn't get the Ayu comparation because she wouldn't be able to put out things like a half naked covered only in leafs album cover.

EndOfTheWorld 9th February 2018 05:27 PM

Ayu, highly sexualized? I don't think so. I mean Ayu has worn some risque costumes and does sometimes get suggestive during live performances but that's about it. Nothing overtly sexual, and NOTHING compared to western artists. And yes Ayu has shown quite a bit of skin but there was nothing sexual about the Loveppears or I am covers.
As for Timmy, he has only cheapened the image of Ayu's live shows.

Andrenekoi 9th February 2018 06:09 PM

^Ayu's image is hughly sexualized for her culture. She is not trying to sell music in the US.

Different cultures find different ways to express sexuality interesting. You won't see anyone acting like a sexy western pop star in japanese porn, but you will find a lot of girls doing shit Ayu does

KittyKathy 9th February 2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EndOfTheWorld (Post 3263283)
As for Timmy, he has only cheapened the image of Ayu's live shows.

I agree.

Her shows were fantastic and with good taste. The last show I really liked was PCDL 2008-2009. Shows from 2009 and 2010 were also good. :yes

njanjayrp 9th February 2018 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3263287)
^Ayu's image is hughly sexualized for her culture. She is not trying to sell music in the US.

Different cultures find different ways to express sexuality interesting. You won't see anyone acting like a sexy western pop star in japanese porn, but you will find a lot of girls doing shit Ayu does

You are talking about performances, a couple of pics and videos. I think “hugely sexualized” is over exaggerating it a bit in my opinion.

Amalgam 9th February 2018 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3263293)
You are talking about performances, a couple of pics and videos. I think “hugely sexualized” is over exaggerating it a bit in my opinion.

Maybe they’re exaggerating, but the impression that a few of these choices could make on the GP can’t be ignored either.

EndOfTheWorld 9th February 2018 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3263287)
^Ayu's image is hughly sexualized for her culture. She is not trying to sell music in the US.

Different cultures find different ways to express sexuality interesting. You won't see anyone acting like a sexy western pop star in japanese porn, but you will find a lot of girls doing shit Ayu does

Well I don't know much about Japanese porn so.:roflmao
I guess for a Japanese person she is. But to me not so much.
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Originally Posted by KittyKathy (Post 3263292)
I agree.

Her shows were fantastic and with good taste. The last show I really liked was PCDL 2008-2009. Shows from 2009 and 2010 were also good. :yes

I actually was watching Concert Tour 2000 and some old live performances the other day and I felt like Ayu's lives from the 2000s were more mature and focused on the music, especially the early 2000s. It made me really miss when it was Ayu and the band.

melissalove 10th February 2018 01:29 AM

^ Those were the days, the good old days.
Timmy hasn’t ruined her lives as much as those annoying acrobats have.

RealLight 10th February 2018 01:34 AM

y'all nasty

Andrenekoi 10th February 2018 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3263293)
You are talking about performances, a couple of pics and videos. I think “hugely sexualized” is over exaggerating it a bit in my opinion.

The thing is, it's not "a couple of pics and videos".

Ayu releases that either show nudity or fetish clothing or caused some level of controverse for being "too sexy":

Album covers:
Loveppears
Duty
I Am...
RAINBOW
My STORY
Party Queen

(some people did complain Sixxxxxx and A One covers were too sexy over here. MIJ actually can be understood as referencing fetish)

Single covers with nudity, fetisg wear/bikini shots:
Boys & Girls
appears
kanariya
H
Step you
Mirrorcle World

(but pretty much every summer single over is a shot of Ayu invitingly looking at the camera wearing swin wear)

PVs that references sexual behavior or shows her in underwear/fetish wear:
SURREAL
Because of You
STEP you
my name's WOMEN
Ladies Night
1LOVE
Mirrorcle World
Rule
Sparkle (this one actually is visually based on a bdsm porn movie)
XOXO
Warning
Sayonara

Tours with pole dancing or Ayu in fetish wear or underwear or sexual choreo:
TA Limited
AT05
AT07
AT08
AT09
AT10
AT12
PSC
AT15
JTB

(I'm not counting CDLs, A-Nations or TV because I can't remember them all. I'm also ignoring outfits that pretty much just showed lots of legs, boobs or belly, what would had made me include pretty much every concert she ever had).

I'm not counting her photoshots for magazines or photobooks, were you can actually find more bikini shots, more bdsm inspired looks, etc.

Ayu shows lots of skin. Much more than Hikki, Ai Otsuka, Namie Amuro, even if they sing openly about sex and Ayu doesn't. Her live performances also goes on a more sugestive route far more often.

She also most likely references BDSM and fetish as much as she references Circuses. Most of her "kawaii" performances are actually the ones she wears the less clothes and the sexy version of some innocent character. The kawaii performances from AT06, AT08, AT09, AT10, AT12 have Ayu pretty much dressed as a character from a hentai manga.

I'm sorry, but her image is VERY sexual, and it was since Loveppears. The reason she isn't western-popstarish sexy is because the fetishes and how a desireble woman is perceived in both cultures is largely different. What doesn't make it any less sexual.

Norrel 10th February 2018 05:36 AM

The T is hot tonight.

alternarist 10th February 2018 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3263098)
I hope Timmy goes full naked for PoM

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Originally Posted by _dandy_ (Post 3263213)
Now why would anyone want to see that... :shakehead

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Originally Posted by kotora (Post 3263244)
I would love to see that. Glory time

I died. LOL!


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