Agreed. Who knows if they’ll even release a dvd of this countdown live...they didn’t for the last couple CDL/Tours which means dvd sales are probably not much of a moneymaker if at all anymore. It’s now down to merch and ticket sales if Avex wants to make money off the tours.

The first CDL was 2000-2001, so no it isn´t the 20th Anniversary

Hi guys, does anyone know roughly how far in advance one should join TA to be on time for the lottery? Not 100% sure if I’ll be in Tokyo for New Year’s yet...

I'll say - at the end of September

if the 1st was 2000-2001, then the 20th would be 2019-2020 no? Did she skip a year?

2017-2018 there was no CDL
She had a concert on that day from JTB Tour but it was no CDL, it was normal concert

^there is a difference between 20th Anniversary and the 20th CDL. Skipping a year does not mean it wasn't 20 years ago that the first CDL was held.

^ but her 10th and 20th Anniversary were on 8.4.2008 and 8.4.2018. Her first Single was released on 8.4.1998...
So, her first CDL was 2000-2001 and CDL‘s 20th Anniversary will be 2020-2021.
BTW they also didn‘t celebrate the 10th Anniversary of CDL (2010-2011).

^yeah, i don't even care. Was just saying. But it would still be 2019-2020 if there would have been one every year.

1. 00-01
2. 01-02
3. 02-03
4. 03-04
5. 04-05
6. 05-06
7. 06-07
8. 07-08
9. 08-09
10. 09-10
11. 10-11
12. 11-12
13. 12-13
14. 13-14
15. 14-15
16. 15-16
17. 16-17
18. 17-18
19. 18-19
20. 19-20

^ no, it would be the 20th CDL but not the 20th Anniversary of CDL. :)

Random but this discussion about 20th CDL or 20th anniversary of CDL somehow reminds me how the word “anniversary” was used for the celebration of Name Amuro's 500th concert...

I don’t remember them acknowledging Namie’s 10th or 15th anniversary, so all of this anniversary stuff is probably more a marketing thing than being associated with a solid date or numerical anniversary. Eg Ayu’s 20th anniversary lasted 2.5 years

why? you count the first one as the first year. so its exactly 20 years of CDL.
20 is a weird number for an anniversary anyways.

No, you don’t. It’s the same with your age. You don’t count the actual day of your birth as your 1st birthday/anniversary.
With you idea of anniversaries, ayu‘s 10th anniversary would’ve been on April, 8th 2007 (or her 20th on April, 8th 2017).

Absolutely right :)

One of my marketing teachers said that the easiest way to create a campaign was to make up any anniversary to celebrate :P

^ Haha yes! I totally agree, and hey, it got me to see her live for PoM 20th (ok, I was a little deceived thinking there would be a full orchestra like PoM2011, but I still loved it!)

I actually really loved the narrative they built for that show throuh music and the nod to the BRILLANTE performance.

It's not. It's a huge number that should be celebrated.

^but 25 is usually the number you celebrate.

no its not. "Bauhaus" celebrated 100 years this year, opening in 1919 up until 2019.
Same goes for Ayu herself. A COMPLETE was her 10th Anni Celebration, released in 2018, 10 years after her debut in 1998.

Since the legal age of adulthood in Japan is 20, maybe they just feel more affinity with the number 20? :laugh