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Ayumiko 27th February 2007 08:16 AM

New info about A Best 2 tracks mastered
 
A BEST 2 website updated with the following info about the tracks:

【全曲L.A.にてリマスタリング!】
今回、2001年にリリースされた「evolution」から2007年最初の新曲までをひとつのベスト・ アルバムとしてまとめるにあたって、全曲リマスタリングを敢行!
歌い直しやリミックス、リアレンジなどを施すのではなく、それぞれの楽曲がリリースされた当時の息吹を伝え るために、全てオリジナル・ヴァージョンで収録。ただし、それぞれのマスターを並べるだけでなく、Upda teした2007年ヴァージョンにするためにayuが採用したのが、このリマスタリング(=新たにマスタリ ングし直す)という手法。
そして、この約6年間の軌跡を一つのサウンドとしてまとめあげるために選んだマスタリング・エンジニアが、 ロサンゼルスのBernie Grundman Mastering(バーニー・グランドマン・マスタリング)所属、Brian "Big Bass" Gardner(ブライアン "ビッグ・ベース" ガードナー)。グラミー賞で度々表彰され、世界中の超一流アーティストの作品を長年に渡り手掛けてきた世界 を代表するマスタリング・エンジニア。
今作『A BEST 2』も“Big Bass”の異名を取る彼らしく、低域をグッと出し、歌を前面に立たせるマスタリングにより、より迫力ある サウンドに仕上がっている。

Translation from excite:

【It is Lima Staring in all tune L.A. 】
This time, when everything from "evolution" released in 2001 to the first new song in 2007 is put together as one best album, all tune Lima Staring is dared.
To tell breath at that time at the time of trying a singing and no remix and no rear cooking stove, etc. are given but be released each music, everything is collected by the original version. However, it is a technique named this Lima Staring (It tries to do mastering = newly) that ayu adopted it to make it to the version in 2007 when each mastering not only is arranged but also Update was done.
And, the mastering engineer who chose to bring up this tracks of about six years as one sound is Bernie Grundman Mastering belonging and Brian of Los Angeles (Barney grand man mastering)"Big Bass" Gardner (Brian "Big base" Gardner). Mastering engineer who is frequently commended by Grammy, and represents the world where work of five-star artist all over the world has been handled over many years.
It seems to be him where work 'A BEST 2' now also takes the alias of “Big Bass", and a low region is put out with Gtsu, and it is in front of of the song ..sound with power or more.. finished by mastering to make it stand.

http://abest2.com/index.html#track

~X2RADialbomber~ 27th February 2007 08:19 AM

I read this before, and I didn't get what it meant. I still don't actually

greggerz189 27th February 2007 08:26 AM

so basically, she re-mastered all her songs. wasn't that kind of expected?

truehappiness 27th February 2007 08:32 AM

Yeah, they were remastered or w/e in Los Angeles..

It says in the booklet. I was wondering why that was there..

Diana 27th February 2007 08:56 AM

Ummm.. sigh.. Dont understand it quite...

truehappiness 27th February 2007 09:01 AM

Quote:

Remastering is, at its core, the process of creating a new master for an album, movie, or any other creation. It tends to nowadays specifically refer to the process of porting a creation from one medium to another, but this is not always the case. For example, a vinyl LP originally pressed from a worn-out copy tape many tape generations removed from the "original" master recording could be remastered and re-pressed from a better condition tape.

Here buzz-speak and practical application collide. In actuality, all CDs created from analogue sources are technically digitally remastered. The process of creating a digital transfer of an analogue tape re-masters the material in the digital domain, even if nothing "special"--no equalization, compression, or other processing--is done to the material.

Ideally, because of their high resolution, a CD or DVD (or other) release should come from the best source possible, with the most care taken during its transfer. This does not always happen. The earliest days of the CD era found record companies using whatever tapes they had lying around to create their CDs, with frequently underwhelming results. An nth-generation tape equalized for vinyl frequency response might be deemed perfectly acceptable by a record company, and (importantly) might be much easier to locate than the "original" source master. Additionally, the earliest days of the CD era found digital technology in its infancy, which also aided often poor sounding digital transfers marked by dropouts, underutilization of Signal-To-Noise Ratio, etc. The earliest days of the DVD era were hardly any different, with early DVD copies of movies frequently being produced from worn prints, with low bitrates and muffled audio. When the first CD remasters turned out to bestsellers--see, for example, the box set boom--companies soon realized that new editions of bare-bones back catalogue items could compete with new releases as a source of revenue. Back catalogue values skyrocketed, and today it is not unusual to see expanded and remastered editions of fairly modern albums (e.g. "New Miserable Experience" by the Gin Blossoms).

Theoretically, digital remastering should solve some of these problems. Original master tapes, or something close to them, can be used to make CD releases. Better processing choices can be used. Better prints can be utilized, with sound elements remixed to 5.1 and obvious print flaws digitally corrected. The modern era gives content providers almost unlimited ways to touch up, doctor, and "improve" their creations and products, and as each release promises improved sound, video, extras and others, producers hope these upgrades will entice consumers into making a purchase.
This is essentially what was done to A BEST 2.. the tracks were "polished" from their previous forms into "newer and better quality" tracks..
So "upgraded" could be a word to describe what was done..

Rebirthia 27th February 2007 09:19 AM

but they weren't re-sung... it's digitally made... well, at least they won't be the VERY SAME songs in the previous albums.

immel 27th February 2007 09:27 AM

For anyone who still don't understand re-mastering, think of it as what happened to alterna, single -> album version.

It'll probably be quite noticeable on a number of tracks, especially if you listen to them immediately after listening to the original version.

ayu1m 27th February 2007 09:28 AM

At least something :yes

truehappiness 27th February 2007 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayesha (Post 1028939)
but they weren't re-sung... it's digitally made... well, at least they won't be the VERY SAME songs in the previous albums.

Uh, duh? No one said anything about resinging at all. LOL

I don't know where that came from D:

Dustie 27th February 2007 12:26 PM

I wonder how noticeable the remastering will be...

Keishi 27th February 2007 12:33 PM

All songs re-mastering?
Hope there won't be any re-singing. XD
I love her old voices, and I don't want her current over-vibrato to ruin the old hits I love <3

freedreamer 27th February 2007 12:44 PM

WOW! all re-mastered..thats so cool..
so there is still no news on re-singing?...hope she does re sing some of the songs..

but all re-mastering is really cool ... atleast we get to hear something different

AyUmIXx 27th February 2007 12:45 PM

i think i can't find the songs' differences

dayumi 27th February 2007 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by immel (Post 1028945)
For anyone who still don't understand re-mastering, think of it as what happened to alterna, single -> album version.

It'll probably be quite noticeable on a number of tracks, especially if you listen to them immediately after listening to the original version.

Hey, what is the difference between the single version and the album version?? They sound the same for me.

oro77 27th February 2007 12:59 PM

It sounds the same for me but I have bad sound on my notebook. I need to listen to my ipod.

But Memorial Address sounds a bit different to me.

salina 27th February 2007 01:13 PM

thnaks for info :yes

AyuGAME 27th February 2007 01:17 PM

interesting...so we can hear a better sound output from the old songs...

Draggi 27th February 2007 01:41 PM

I still hope she resung some songs ^^ this would be sooo cool ^^

immel 27th February 2007 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dayumi (Post 1029087)
Hey, what is the difference between the single version and the album version?? They sound the same for me.

Make sure that the two versions of it you have is the single and original versions for sure. The difference is quite apparent, for example you can hear it clearly on the "hey hey heeey"'s in the beginning.

criminal 27th February 2007 01:51 PM

I think it's quite nice seeing as some tracks are from 2001. I believe mastering processes have evolved since then. All the more joy to us, listeners! ^___^

Mirai Noah 27th February 2007 04:18 PM

Ooo, interesting! Thanks for the info!

Beauty4123 27th February 2007 05:20 PM

re-mastered tracks sound interesting. thanks for posting this info.

minkAYuko 27th February 2007 07:24 PM

maybe it.s like boys & girls original and A BEST the sound is different.. and the guitar sounds more on A BEST.

at least they did sumething! :D I.m glad!

Rebirthia 27th February 2007 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1028952)
Uh, duh? No one said anything about resinging at all. LOL

I don't know where that came from D:

yes; no one said anything about resinging at all.

i just wanted to write that, because it's true.

whatever

Chibi_Venus 27th February 2007 09:07 PM

...

I just want the songs themselves to stay the same.

Forget this remastering crap, lol.

minkAYuko 27th February 2007 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi_Venus (Post 1029457)
...

I just want the songs themselves to stay the same.

Forget this remastering crap, lol.

the remastering is to upgrade the sound quality!! so it will sound much better like it has been said.. a little upgrade!

Raiu-Ayu 27th February 2007 10:06 PM

Cool. I wonder if they are really noticeable differences.

It's probably like the A Song for XX "MILLENNIUM MIX" on the second disk of LOVEppears; it sounded just like the original but the piano in the background could be heard more.

Anyone know if they are uploaded anywhere yet?

Chandrachan 27th February 2007 10:41 PM

sugoii!! I wanna hear the remastered songs!!

Mari-chan 27th February 2007 10:58 PM

Hmm.. I listend to some samples of the songs on the A-Best-2 Website.. but.. I really can not hear any difference.

truehappiness 27th February 2007 11:39 PM

I don't think streaming samples could be the same as the quality of the real CD.

I think we should see when we actually "get" the CDs themselves.. [they shouldn't sound that different.. just crisper or w/e.]

mikewallace 27th February 2007 11:49 PM

wow this is great. I gotta get the flac, or better yet, buy the cd.

slowmoth 27th February 2007 11:49 PM

Thanks! I want to buy this album now :D!!

Eigakan 28th February 2007 12:25 AM

well, it seems nice to have "shinier" versions of the songs.

Beyond the Sea 28th February 2007 03:54 AM

I'm listening to Real Me right now. I might be going crazy but it sounds MUCH better. I hear all these new little sounds and stuff ;)

Coelacanth 28th February 2007 04:08 AM

Just browsing through the tracks, the remastering is definitely noticable. evolution and UNITE! are like.. wow. fairyland and HEAVEN sound so much better. And yeah, Real me is so.. loud. It's great. - And I'm listening to them with really crappy headphones at the moment.

Now if they would only remaster A Song for XX, LOVEppears, and Duty...

truehappiness 28th February 2007 04:18 AM

Prepare for A BEST 2.5~! Complete with first A BEST! [o ho ho.]

oro77 28th February 2007 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 1029729)
Just browsing through the tracks, the remastering is definitely noticable. evolution and UNITE! are like.. wow. fairyland and HEAVEN sound so much better. And yeah, Real me is so.. loud. It's great. - And I'm listening to them with really crappy headphones at the moment.

Now if they would only remaster A Song for XX, LOVEppears, and Duty...

I think really crappy headphones are better than really crappy speaker. So I did not notice anything ... and I did not listen carefully because I did not know about remastering.

I need to listen to the WHITE album...

Celaphorce 28th February 2007 05:57 AM

I agree with what the others have said about the A BEST 2 songs, they sound amazing now that they're remastered, when I the first track on ~Black~ played my volume level on my tv is usually at 20 or so b/c my cd's sound crappy if they're lower, but I had to go down to like 12 or so because of how loud it was, and I have to admit that I love them, I wish all album tracks were like this, and July 1st I'm hearing different sounds in right now:)

zeroshin888 28th February 2007 06:23 AM

argh, still disappointed that none of the tracks were re-sung!

oro77 28th February 2007 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeroshin888 (Post 1029770)
argh, still disappointed that none of the tracks were re-sung!

I guess Ayu did not have time to resing any songs. I don't know if she wanted to do so neither.
She is super busy right now, especially with the Asia tour preparation (I guess)

In the HEY3 show, she said she slept only 3 hours ... (if I understood well)

SunshineSlayer 28th February 2007 07:19 AM

I don't know why people were expecting her to resing songs. There were special reasons that she resung a couple of songs on the first A-Best. There was no reason for her to change any of the tracks on A-Best 2. Most casual fans(the usual people that buy Best of collections) go in wanting the original versions of the songs.

truehappiness 28th February 2007 07:35 AM

Yeah, and the fact she did so on A BALLADS was because over the 3-4 years that the songs that were resung on that compilation "evolved" over time..

[ASFXX, Who.., YOU even..]

Yukitora 28th February 2007 07:40 AM

I would still be a nice touch tho. To have slightly different variations. You never know until you have the CD tho, as End Roll had been rearranged/resung but not noted on first A BEST.

Ayumiko 28th February 2007 07:50 AM

Its awesome to know the tracks are better than the originals...I can wait to get mine...:(

RadicalEd_IV 28th February 2007 08:11 AM

hahah "Lima Starring" thats great. wow seems like the person who 'translated' was just copying and pasting it into a automated translator. lol

truehappiness 28th February 2007 08:14 AM

They did..

It says "Translation/translating from Excite" above it. :D

RadicalEd_IV 28th February 2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1028952)
Uh, duh? No one said anything about resinging at all. LOL

I don't know where that came from D:

uh duh, A BEST!! she re-sang some songs in the first one. thats where it came from, genius >.<

truehappiness 28th February 2007 08:21 AM

I was talking about this A BEST.

There was no mention at all, at any time about "redoing" songs. :|

SunshineSlayer 28th February 2007 08:33 AM

I'm listening to it now and yep, I definitely notice the clarity difference in some of the tracks. I'm especially noticing on Never Ever that the drums sound more prominent. Everything is louder and sounds great.

Lumix 28th February 2007 08:43 AM

^ Is evolution still that squeeky? Did they edit her voice or something?

truehappiness 28th February 2007 08:47 AM

I don't think her voice was edited at all. It sounds more like they just tweaked with the background music.

Ayumiko 28th February 2007 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalEd_IV (Post 1029821)
hahah "Lima Starring" thats great. wow seems like the person who 'translated' was just copying and pasting it into a automated translator. lol

well duh.. :rolleyes I wrote 'translation from excite' underneath it if you couldnt see...

extepan 28th February 2007 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greggerz189 (Post 1028906)
so basically, she re-mastered all her songs. wasn't that kind of expected?

no there was no indication of remastering whatsoever, so for me it was not expected.

really great news that they are remastered though. even better is that people actually can hear the difference of the remastered version!

RadicalEd_IV 1st March 2007 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1029847)
well duh.. :rolleyes I wrote 'translation from excite' underneath it if you couldnt see...

haha no, i didnt read that far. i was laughing too hard at the lima staring. even if it was automatic you still could have atleast translated the katakana. thats actually really easy seeing as katakana is all raidaigo. all you need is a katakana chart! ^~^

greggerz189 1st March 2007 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by extepan (Post 1030105)
no there was no indication of remastering whatsoever, so for me it was not expected.

really great news that they are remastered though. even better is that people actually can hear the difference of the remastered version!

well it's just that i've seen a trend with the best albums in Japan that they usually re-master the songs--it was that way with A BEST, A BALLADS, Utada Hikaru's Single Collection Vol. 1, BoA's BEST OF SOUL, etc. I expected some of Ayu's songs on A BEST 2 -WHITE & BLACK- to be re-sang...I understand she's busy, but still--without her re-singing some of it, it seems like just a commercial ploy to make sure that Ayu has an album or two in the top 10 yearly. Though, admittedly, she kind of needs it.

haruki 1st March 2007 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greggerz189 (Post 1030848)
well it's just that i've seen a trend with the best albums in Japan that they usually re-master the songs--it was that way with A BEST, A BALLADS, Utada Hikaru's Single Collection Vol. 1, BoA's BEST OF SOUL, etc. I expected some of Ayu's songs on A BEST 2 -WHITE & BLACK- to be re-sang...I understand she's busy, but still--without her re-singing some of it, it seems like just a commercial ploy to make sure that Ayu has an album or two in the top 10 yearly. Though, admittedly, she kind of needs it.

kinda agree with it. i certainly hope, she resing some of it. :love

4ever*ayu 1st March 2007 12:46 PM

at least there is something new in A BEST2.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 1029072)
All songs re-mastering?
Hope there won't be any re-singing. XD
I love her old voices, and I don't want her current over-vibrato to ruin the old hits I love <3

ayu old voice was a teenage voice, and now her voice is more mature, so if she happens to re-singing some of the old songs, it won't be bothering so much.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3...gthesunhn9.jpg

Dark Eiri 1st March 2007 01:28 PM

Well, at least they remastered the songs. The BLACK Dearest seems so... more "emotional" with all the new little beats and stuff, and the walking proud beats seems stronger too (and we can still hear a acoustic guitar more present along the song), and that's great. I think it's fine if she didn't resung any of them, her voice is so pretty already. A BEST 1 was quite a critical case of "voice evolution".

Keishi 1st March 2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4ever*ayu (Post 1030967)
ayu old voice was a teenage voice, and now her voice is more mature, so if she happens to re-singing some of the old songs, it won't be bothering so much.

I actually like it when her vibrato are stable. Recently, her vibrato is sorta...getting squeaky and forced. It's no longer as natural as how she did on her old songs. That's why I rather have the tracks untouched by her current vocal.



And after listening to the album, really. I didn't see in which part did they actually re-master the song. Perhaps there's something wrong with my ears, or mp3 didn't do justice to this 'new remastering' method.

hanabi2 1st March 2007 01:56 PM

I'm so glad to hear that the songs have been remastered!

And yes, in A-best, 'boys and girls' sounds different (background music), and also 'End roll', she resung it

Dark Eiri 1st March 2007 01:58 PM

Well, there are some good differences (minimal but still different, anyway) on almost all songs at least on BLACK (I got mine delivered today). Try to listen it louder or try to exchange speakers for a good headphone for better detail perception.
The instrumental sounds a little more clear.

alternarist 1st March 2007 02:53 PM

weehee!! expecting to hear better sounding songs!! :D

Raleigh 1st March 2007 03:57 PM

Glad to see that this album had some effort in it


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